I think Elon is rushing everything because he is already 49 years old and will be 78 in 2050, and obviously wants to be alive to see his dream come true.
@Ryan Hall it's going ti be done because we want to do it, simple as, starship by itself will allow this, the most powerful and capable rocket who at the same time it's the cheapest and they are already preparing for the first orbital test flight in August of this year I personaly don't believe that we will have 1 million people by 2050, but man will go to Mars either this or the next decade that much is sure, at least try to Google about starship before talking and look a couple of videos, nasa spaceflight channel here on RU-vid has an entire series of hundreds of videos dedicated to follow starship's construction and advancement and it's information that is widely available to the general public About being "meaningless" "stupid" and "unhelpful made up goals" i can notice from that alone that you are completly unaware of anything space related and your own biases and lack of knowledge cloud your judgement, space is the future of humankind, if we want to survive as a cohesive species we need to conquere space, the Mars goal only serves as a nice objective to center their efforts without running around as a headless chicken like other companies do like boeing or blue origin but the technology developed will and is already changing the world for the better in all aspects
If you told someone from the year 2000 that we would have mobile phones that we can maneuver with a touch of our finger, track our location, watch movies and shows like on a tv, gps navigation, etc in less than 10 years and would be instanteous just pass that, they would think just like you. Technology has and will continue to grow faster and faster as we advance. You sound very uneducated.
@@iamarokotmanson Has Elon developed fully autonomous vehicles & manufacturing facilities to build human habitats and rocket refuelling depots? Evaluated people to make sure they're psychologically stable enough to live in close quarters for years? There are a zillion other make or break issues that were brushed over in this video.
@@nicholashylton6857 Logistics is the hardest part. We can only get to Mars once every 2 years right now. Unless we find a way to move faster and without having to time it. So if for example there's a famine on Mars they're basically dead.
And to them it'll feel the same as for an American to be born in America. Just normal. They won't even think of it as such a huge trip, that their ancestors had to make.
@@mariah5714 there will be Mars Ball games and techno punk mars music, mars dance parties with lazer beams, dune racing 🏁, sand castle sculture contests, epic battles for power, romantic love below stars 🌟 . Mars will be what you make of it
The surface of Mars is so incredibly inhospitable, it'll be difficult just to exist there until we are able to terraform the place. It would be easier to colonize even the harshest environments on Earth than it would to colonize any part of Mars. The first people on Mars will undoubtedly have to live underground, and they will constantly be worried about long term negative physiological effects of the difference in radiation exposure, gravity, and atmosphere.
@@NoOnesBCE He tends to overpromise and overdeliver. The Model 3 has Model S range and the S can go over 600 kms now. The Cybertruck may go 800 at first, but give it a few updates and it will be going 1200.
This however is literally hard as shit and it will take a ton and I mean tons of time/money and resources. It's possible but it will definitely put a dent in America's economy or even Elons wallet
1 Million is a Goal that's stupid unrealistic by 2050. I think much more important than Getting this ludicrous amount of People Up there is to get Mars to become self-sufficient by 2050, or Just as soon as humanly possible.
Exactly. I think Elon is a fantasy story book fan boy, like little children. He stays too much in his fantasy world. And he's also stubborn like little kids. I mean i am not denying humanity and science have achieved many things which seemed impossible once. But there's a limit of dreaming to achieve something right now damn unrealistic. I mean, 1 million ppl on mars? Come on! Entering Mars is pretty easy, but returning is almost impossible. And where the hell from, will that huge amount of food supplies for them, oxygen, and water come from?
@@GYMAnDroiD Elon is trying to make what people thought is fantasy a reality. I don't know why people tries to discourage him simply because they think its not possible, i don't think that there will be 1 million people on mars by 2050 (although 1 million people will definitely live on Mars at one point in time) with the current technology, future technologies may allow that plan to succeed like warp speed rockets (warp speed is theoretically possible its just that no one has done it). Just because a goal that benefits humanity as a whole is unrealistic does not mean that you should discourage him. As for the issues you stated: 1. Food can easily be transferred from Earth to Mars using Starship 100 tons cargo, or just simply by growing plants, start a farm, etc. 2. Oxygen can be created (How do you think people in outer space breathes?). 3. Water is literally inside of Mars, or just like food can be easily transferred from Earth to Mars. You should research this topic before you start giving opinions.
@@evandugas7888 his spaceX didn't even reached moon yet. Which NASA has chosen his company for 2nd time moon landing, that was scheduled for 2024, but now is further expected to be delayed far beyond that. U can find it online. Elon hasn't make it to moon yet, And talks abt sending 1 mil ppl to mars. See ur taking me Wrong. If elon wld have said we will reach mars by 2050, i wld be fine with that, i wld appreciate that claim. But when he said we will not only reach mars but also send 1 million ppl to mars that really looks a problem to me.
Not all political systems can sustain this 'exponential rate of innovation'. And the current system for better or for worse is under assault. I heard that real communism that has never been tried correctly before could do even better, well wanna try?
Innovation requires research, the driving force of research is necessity. People keep doing research and development in computer because computer is so important in our life. Covid-19 vaccine was developed quickly because it was so NECESSARY. All innovation you see nowadays are always related to computer, logistic, and medicine because those are necessary things in life. There is no necessity in colonizing mars so people are not doing research in space ship. Therefore, you won't see exponential innovation in the field of space travel. Remember it took millions of people to develop internet and computer, which result in exponential innovation. How much people developing space travel? only NASA and SpaceX?
3:08 while it's true that mars orbit is slightly more eccentric than earth's, it is not the reason for ever changing distances between the planets, that's just the effect of difference in orbital periods which is caused by differences in semi-major axes of the orbits and not their eccentricities
Early on, Mars will be like a space prison that you have to pay to go there. And when you are there, you have to pay for oxygen and clean water, which you get almost for free on earth.
@@jciglesias7928 that's not a bad point. But still, The capitalist class gets the working class and the poor to build the infrastructure and make Mars relatively habitable at great danger to themselves, then I see a future where the rich go to their space mansions and oppress us in space too. I'm 1000000% in favor of space colonization and sophisticated AI robotics once we no longer live under the tyranny of the capitalist class, but for right now our main priority should be stopping climate change while also dealing with economic and political inequality.
@@matthewmcree1992 lmao you realize that robots would handle most of the heavy "infrastructure" building in space right? You make it sound like arbitrary slaverly should exist just cause you hate a class of people. In space, gravity is less. Machines can be more efficient on both the moon and mars simply because they need less energy and can be much larger. Shit like nuclear reactors can also work without contaminating "air" in space and freely power these. Space ships, machines and buildings can be absolutely gigantic in space, and to take advantage of this you will have robots producing things. The only things they might "abuse" are the designers and bottom-level factory workers creating the original parts for that shit but at that point you'll probably have robots for that too.
Maybe we should try to turn the Sahara Desert to an Oasis before going after Mars. On the other hand, if we have the technology to terraform Mars, we would also be able to fix all the environmental issues on Earth.
@@kiq4767 I'm in the last generation of the Greek Alphabet. I'm a pure Gen Z. At least I'm more mature and smarter than most my age. Also people born in 2010-2011 is a Gen Zalpha. They're both a Gen Z and Gen Alpha.
And dont forget shooting radioactive material into space isnt a good idea since a rocket launch can go wrong and personaly i wouldnt want radioactive material in the stratosphere
Even if Mars’s orbit wasn’t eccentric the distances would still vary greatly because it’s the different angular speeds and not eccentricity that cause the change Eccentricity’s effect is negligible in comparison
@@ArifRWinandar Simple logic, if you and your buddy run on the same track at different speeds at some point your buddy will be the furthest away possible from you, and at some point you will be right beside each other :)
Just the trip to Mars would be like living a whole other chapter of your life, so many months of travel, you would get used to the lifestyle in the rocket
People are losing their shit being indoors ordering fast food and random shit from Amazon. I'm sure the solution is going where the air is literal poison, there's no KFC, RU-vid loads like it's 2002 and you live underground in cramped boxes. Huge improvement.
@@EightNineOne I had an amazing time during complete lockdown, didn’t leave my house at all during the whole year, just about 3 times to take a vaccine (not for covid), cut my hair and I went to the park once. And I could of lived perfectly without those three times. Going outside is overrated 🤷♂️ I swear most people overreacted over staying in their homes, or their simply have crappy lives and don’t really get on with their families, either way, it can perfectly be done, specially if you consider they will stay in the rocket with 99 other people, who they will get to meet, love, hate, play, etc, they will probably have Netflix or a huge gallery of films and shows, they will exercise, socialize, etc. It’s not exactly the same to staying in your home for a year, they will probably have lots of things to do.
Robots barely learned to walk and you want them to not only handle but also properly grow a bunch of babies , and before you say it , no it's impossible to remote control them in any meaningful way , lag is at least 20 min
I was thinking about that too The problem will be that they will have more problems in their bones, so they will need more physical exercises and more Vitamin D to grow the most healthy as possible
They would need to make sure every individual is fertile, young enough to have children, and have incentives for people to start family on Mars. At least that's what I would do.
Please, the scientists working for him would be remembered. Elon isnt the person designing these crafts. He isnt the one planning all of this out. He’s just a businessman
Well Elon will most likely be funding it AND he's literally a head engineer making a good chunk of the decisions. Don't be doubting him because he is making very crucial and important decisions. It's not like he's only paying for it and sitting back.
All the technical problems aside, I kind of doubt it would be easy to even find that many people that unironically want to live on Mars in the first place rather than just memeing about it.
Honestly, if I was like 50 years old then I would jump on the opportunity. By that age I'd probably have nothing left to look forward to here on Earth except for a boring job, so why not go live on Mars and help develop infrastructure over there to make history for humankind? You don't have much to lose since the best years of your life are long gone by that point.
id go, hell id ask to go, id pay for it even that sounds fucking awesome, i dont have any big attachment to earth and i always wanted to see/live in space, what better way than to go there than to live in another planet entirely, screw the risks id love to go
@@fraskf6765 you are saying that no life exist on Mars like is a fact , when scientists themselves say we havent discovered 70% of animal species in OUR OWN WORLD... LOL
When it comes to these massive challenges, I just always think on what humans have been able to do that never seemed possible. Lightbulb, internet, 7 superbowls, almost killing off an entire population of people
My science teacher once tried to say that the eccentricity of earth's orbit caused the seasons, and I was like, no, it's the tilt, not the distance from the sun!
@@sayonitepaskide7976 Exactly. Eccentricity has almost no effect on anything. Otherwise the seasons wouldn't be flipped on the other side of the equator
For such a big channel I am extremely disappointed with the low quality of research that they used. A lot of science or even facts are really bad. No actual photos of starship or its prototypes while explaining what it is also, the nr or refuelling was wrong a lot of things were bad, really disappointed...
@@bobuxman5034 Mars base is not exactly the same as having 1 million people on Mars. Besides, maybe let's wait for Moon base first. Even that is far from being here.
@@maczetamaczeta189 A moon base wouldn’t be good and would be very hard to live on because I heard that low levels of gravity can be harmful for the body plus it would be super dark since the moon phases so there would be limited times you could see sunlight so you can kiss solar energy goodbye. There is also no atmosphere so no wind energy as well, basically what I’m saying is that you can’t rely on renewable energy. A moon base for scientific research would probably work but I don’t see the benefits of living on the moon besides you have a wonderful view to look at
You kinda forgot about babies. Assume having 1 to 2 babies per couple in at least 5 years. You’ll need to send around 300k people to finally get that million.
When he said “that’s like taking the entire city of Austin and moving it to Mars” and I remembered Elon is moving himself AND Tesla HQ here to Austin....
He has a tunnel boring company, so perhaps he will core out Austin, shove some super heavies underneath, tell everyone to hold their breath and zoooommmmm
@@georgebarc yes it should be shoot for the stars and reach the sun..but we all got the point haha. What's your take on Mars? Will Elon Musk pull it off?
Or, it could be a cynical overhyping to boost stock values. Elon overpromises with ALL of his companies. He either is a terrible engineering manager, or he is intentionally lying. I think probably both.
Sounds interesting, but you’re also not including any births or deaths on Mars. Likely we won’t send many 70 year olds, so births should be exponentially larger than births, which would require far fewer ships.
Maybe, instead of going to another planet, maybe we could tried to fixed our own home planet problem? Shouldnt that be the number one priority? We already have our own million of immigrant from Earth to Mars problem here.
I think mars could be a successful colony with 1000+ people by 2050, with 12-16 people per passenger starship. That’s still a lot of starships but they have already built a factory for them and price/speed of production has been taken into account for every part of its design
@@cube10025 i called this 2 years ago...😅 He's just selling impossible ideas at a time when "impossible" is considered a challenge n PPL say sh!t like impossible is nothing... I can also declare as a billionaire that we will produce 0 emissions by 2050 by selling electric cars n PPL will eat it like cake 🍰 On a side note: Sometimes crazy people also do impossible stuff... We don't know if he is yet..but let's wait n see
Bruh imagine living on Mars for 1 year and then coming back to Earth. Probably an orgasmic experience seeing trees, rivers, people, mountains, pets etc.
Not really... it would propably feel like the next day after you went on all existing drugs at once. And getting "sober" (rebuilding enough muscles) wouldn't take a day or two but weeks or months. Although it might not be that bad for "just" one year but imagine getting back to earth after ten years... would probaply die. They'll have to find solutions for this
@@averagechapstick Because the traditional units of measure work just fine. There is no compelling reason to change. And it's not just the USA - most of the countries which had British imperial rule still commonly use those units of measure in everyday life.
If we have 50,000 permanent residents on Mars by 2050 as a globally-based initiative and not as part of a Private Endeavor, I'd be pleasantly surprised.
We already know it, it will be totally unhabitable in 1 billion year and will be eaten by the sun in roughly 4 billion years. But i guess you meant, the end of the human story
@@TheAskald I dont mean I wanna know how it ends,it'll be fromt he sun or an asteroid,maybe aliens,or humans if we develop the technology to destroy planets But I mean the storyline
If we can go interplanetary we have a chance, if we can go interstellar, we will colonies the entire Milky Way in a million years or so. Then in the far future, there will be only war. But do not worry. The Emperor protects!
The number of ships needed can be cut by like 30% if we set up shop on the moon first, to make landing pads and refueling stations, then send the starships from there. We could even manufacture some of the supplies needed on mars on the moon while we’re there.
Plot twist: Elon Musk actually has a stargate straight to mars stored away, and all he needs to use it to send people to mars is a team there activating the receiving end.
@@dougedoug2105 It will be interesting to see whether it turns out to be easier to launch mega-ships from the surface, or use a mothership that never lands, and starships to ferry stuff between surface and mothership. Theoretically the mothership could be built more flimsy and with fewer engines so it can transport more cargo with less fuel, but that would mean assembling it in orbit, which may not be practical. And if it's capable of withstanding the stress of surface launch, then you might as well do that every time since it would save the tricky step of loading/unloading in orbit.
@@dekutree64 That would be a colossal undertaking and contradicts a portion of the company’s mission statement which is to revolutionize space transport. If the goal of humanity at present is to reduce our universal carbon footprint for generations to come, then manufacturing a fuel efficient yet poorly engineered spaceship for interplanetary transport is pretty impractical. That doesn’t sound like conservation to me as the only thing accomplished would be that we’d be transporting ourselves millions of miles away to destroy yet another planet. If we don’t change our collective ideology, we solve nothing in transporting ourselves to Mars.
@@ismaele9503 I don't actually think that over population would be a serious consern, they are trying to increase the pop. The problem is how are the babies born(turning women into walking incubators is not okay) and how do you care for the children when every adult is required to maintain the colony.
Me: (with binoculars in hand) *zooms in on epic rocket ship* Wow. *Zooms out to reveal dozens of epic rocket ships about to launch.* Huge crowd: (in unison) WOW!
@@buckdanny9062 It seems like his past success has definetely inflated his confidence. However, there are other people with a much more realistic mindset working at SpaceX. As long as the money keeps flowing a small colony of two dozen people is certainly possible. I don't know who in their right mind would propose putting 100 people into one ship though... I mean. Just put around 5 - 10 highly trained and use the other space for tons of supplies and equipment if something goes wrong.
It will probably end as it started with a Tweet: "We simplified this a lot. It’s basically just Teslas in tunnels at this point, which is way more profound than it sounds."
Ah yes, the Vegas Loop, the Fyre Festival of transport. (Basically a taxi service with ridiculously reduced capacity, not very high speed, and way less safe, all for the payoff of being slightly flashier)
I think the people who go to mars should be asked a serious question, "are you OK with maybe being stuck". I also think 100,000 would be OK by even 2050
5:50 : The ships carrying the colonists will be collosal fleets Me when I realise Elon Musk is partly Dutch: This means Mars is about to get G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Very good actually, like the super advanced robots that Elon will make in less than one year. Obviously pretty realistic and aren't just smoke to attract investors and dreamers
Reallifelore: "Essentially, It would basically be like taking the entirety of Austin, Texas and transporting everyone who lives there and all of their infrastructure over to Mars." Elon Musk: Write that down, write that down, write that down.
Did you do the math? Did you!!? I tried. Only got to 159.001 martians wen i did the math. Assuming every woman is fertile, and get on avarage 2 children per year. I assume there must be screeining for fertility and chance for twins, triplets etc. Then there is 2000 children per year. Then we start with "child labour" at 16. As that is the general legal limit for that in Norway. At the start we have 1.001 martians. Then at year 15 we have 29.001 martians. Then is goes exponential as the first children become productive. So by year 25 we have 159.001. I dont think it is even remotly realistic to get a avarage of 2 birth per women per year. Remember that the first 1000 women now have birthed 50 children each. World record is 69. So we have already taken the 1000 most fertile people in the world. The burden on the man is not realy that big. 2,7 women per day need to... err... 2,7 per day. Time that by 5min, the avrage time neede... avrage time spent. And you have a workday of 13,5min. Once the chlildren are mature this will drasticly decreases the workload. I hope someone else can try and see what they get. Maybe if you reduce the age when you can... join the workforce. If you lunch Starhip from South Carolina where the age of concent is...11. Yes. That age is for people of same age, but that is not a problem in this case. Then you would in theory get great grandchildren for thte original man, so then maybe, just maybe you can get to 1.000.000. Edit: This all assume we stay at 0 TVs ALL 25 years. Edit: Bad news. Even lunching from South Carolina will only ressult in 359.001 martians. Good idea Rafael. But i just cant get the math to work. Also. We may have ended up with a cult there.
Not too difficult, i mean sure its diffucult but nothing impossible. With Starship, you can get 150 tons each flight, there is the plan to launch 5 SS at once so youll get over 600 tons there. Also Starship is extremly cheap and efficient. If they even switch to nuclear engines for upper stage its soooo easy.