Elon Musk: Tesla's New Engine Will Change The EV Industry Forever! 

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This is NOT new..these motor design,s are 50 years old.

It's one of those spam videos

Total nonsense

@@JohnDoe-ef3wo I know, next there will be a video where Toyota and Yamaha invent a V8 engine that burns hydrogen - imagine!

Already done. Only it uses water.@@ouethojlkjn

yeah, there should not be much room to improve. iirc already some dc motors of 80s reached 90+ percent efficiency.

Exactly it's the battery technology that needs to be improved

the power to charge them! ... green power? Not a chance!

Electric vehicles are a stopgap clean emission vehicle. However battery technology is 30 years old. They need large improvements. Only minor improvements have occurred on the battery front. In contrast hydrogen fuel contains a raw energy. The proper ICE engine with hydrogen wins all day long vs a Plugin EV. Also the manufacturing processes and jobs to design and construct Hydrogen vehicles closely mirror that of gas and diesel engines. Also consider the average fueling station. Storage tank and pump upgrades will preserve the filling stations existance as we know it with no waiting in line to charge a battery. We will see a new generation of clean emission vehicles with hydrogen ICE engines. And it will not disrupt the global economy and pick the winners and losers the way that EV's threaten to eliminate the ICE engine industry.

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Thats a pretty high standard since Gasoline cars can't even do that.

@@ronbad12 Yes they can, mine does.

@@barrycarleton4326 What kind of unicorn do you drive? The electric cars can get 300 miles on about $8 of off peak electricity.

If thats your problem with them, the upcoming Toyota H2 cars are gonna be perfect for you.

600 miles is too much. 400 miles is considered very high efficiency already. Don't worry, Tesla is continuously improving their motor and battery. As long as they improve efficiency of the motor and energy density of the battery, 400 miles is still a realistic number

But since we don’t recycle any of the fuel we use right now I would say that’s a tall order. Everybody I know that has a Tesla is about to charge to 80+ percent in about 20 minutes ,but with lithium iron phosphate batteries, they should expect to get more than 100,000 miles with no degradation, lithium ion somewhat less and the sodium batteries may prove to be even better.

@@sandyt4343 degradation is about 2-4% per 10k miles or year for the most recent M3s. This also worsens towards 7% per annum or 10k miles if you super charge all the time and always charge above 80% and allow the vehicle to completely drain constantly.

Never going to happen, evs far more damaging to the environment overall than ice cars especially diesels which are far more efficient and the latest diesels very little pollution and far more reliable

@@barryphipps9442 battery development could enable this, such as how computers was running on KBs back in the day and these days were on TB and about to start h wrung towards PETABYTES.

​@@sandyt4343Sodium ion batteries have been around since the 1970's. They hold x5 more power than Lithium ion batteries. Plus they last x3 longer. They are one quarter the size of the Lithium ion batteries. They are also considerably cheaper.

Tesla's motors are water cooled.

Jim, thank you for the information. What about the power controllers, air cooling similar to industrial drives?

😂I see what you did right there

You have issues I don’t have

Driving Model S since 2014 and never had any issue with the technique. Driving electric is really great and having a sports car with the loading capacity of a Model S is something you will not find with any comparable car like Porsche or any Audi RS or BMW

A 30-45 min break on the road is NOT welcome. And that's if you're not behind others charging.

@@melbro62 If you drive until your battery is complete empty then per law you have to take a break anyway. And btw, there are e-cars that plan your trip, and they know where an empty charger is available for you. Never saw that for gasoil stations.

@@konstanthin8753 Sorry Konstathin, gas stations are everywhere and I have an App that tells me where they are and what's really nice is where the cheapest gas is. Since EVs only make up less than 10% of total vehicles right now and they are already having problems with rolling brownouts from the charging demand and home AC demand on hot days. Electricity doesn't grow on trees and I can imagine when the EVs get to be even at 20%-30% of all vehicles how Grids will be overrun. Of course for average commuters I can see an EV being a good thing. That I-95 last winter on the east coast and those stranded EVs gave me chills, literally.

Since 2011.

Here we go talking batteries again, batteries are not needed!

@@stankygeorge I'm listening...

What should be used instead?

Mine uses sunlight that I don’t have to pay for.

Distilled water works much better than tap water. Hydrogen generators powered the moon missions back in the 1960/70s.

This is NOT what it costs now. This is their anticipated cost.

Metals to build the car.

There are a lot of other costs too; like the aluminum car body, seats, cooling liquid for motor and battery, glass for windscreen, side mirrors, charging port, tyres,etc

Batteries

it call market monoploly. for a long time, theres really only 2 EV selliing. toyota mirai and tesla. mirai was really sell just to test electric motor longivity and reliaibility for toyota so they didnt really make the infustructure for it and mainly on market in socal for the rich. tesla is the only option for mass market who really want a ev, and since they have a market monopoly, they can charge what ever price they want for the last 10 years.

The tech is not there, yet!

The energy density of hydrogen is not as dense as alcohol. All kinds of other fuels( biofuel, synthetic fuels, methonol, hydrogen) still needs a lot of processes before it can turn into usable fuel. These process still will emit much more greenhouse gas than the process of battery. Battery is still the way to move forward.

@@tanalson that's not true at all. They make hydrogen on demand & the emissions are oxygen or water. No harm in producing them both anyway.

​@@valeriegiles6524I agree with you. Personally I'm more convinced that Toyota's hydrogen combustion engine is a better technology for the future, not only for autos but also should be explored for aircraft, ship engines, or even power plants.

@@nurburgringkid i disagree, as much as i love ice engine, i still believe that electric car is the future. once green hydrogen production can be scale up to mass production, EV can really take off. atm bev might have the lead, but i truely beliece that toyota fuel-cell ev will be the future especially in teh truckin industry. a much small high power battery combine with a hydrogen fuel cell, should be the future. directly high power from a small battery so u can still get that high power acceleration and all teh thrill of a high preformance vechical, a 50-100 mile range battery is all u need. for long distance and endurance run or trip, hydrogen fuelcell can provide teh power need to mantain freeway speed for long distance. fuelcell can also generationt eh power need to recharge the battery on teh go. fillin up a tank of hydrogen is still fast just like gasoline.

So you take hydrogen gas and then convert it into electricity... So that's still an electric car....

Technology progress, yes. But no progress in the humanities. I'd rather have the latter.

If you change all of the engine train it can be done. I do know about retrofit EV's in older cars. But it's not worth the costs now (unless you''ll retrofit an oldtimer ...)

Burn the fuel, not explode.

Of course bt what do you expect from a salesman !

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I’m sure Elon will have it out by 2035

hydrogen fuel is far too expensive to compete with either gas or electric off the grid. There is no technology now or on the horizon that will make hydrogen competitive in our lifetimes and probably never. @@joevitaleconstruction.704

Then they have to develop a battery that is lighter and have has a lot more energy density

But it's 20% more efficient. This means it's going to use less energy for the same amount of torque and speed, so this means that Tesla will use lesser batteries , which will also drive down the cost too

With ICE cars you have the weight of an engine, transmission and a tank of gas plus the set up is only around 30% efficient. I don't have a dog in the fight. I don't think cars are the reason for climate change but I do think it is exciting to see the electric revolution. They are still improving ICE to this day, 150 years after it's invention so what makes you think the first version of batteries and motors for EV's was going to be the best and never need improvements.

@@tanalson This claim cannot hold. Any good electric motor is efficient for more than 90%...most of them 95%. Yes you can reduce the energy loss with 20%....meaning that instead of 95% efficiency you'll get 96% efficiency. The only real gains are : Less weight, less materal usage and less heat production (which reduces cooling...) Next point...An electric car does not have a heavy combustion engine, transmission, clutch system and gearbox.....Only the conbnection to the wheels still exists (in a Tesla)...we also do have inwheel engines which do not have any extra resistance in the car anywhere except the unavoidable wheel bearing as any other car has. The weight af a standard tesla battery ...ca 5kg/kwh including battery management system/cooling. With at least 200 kg less (no filled petrol tank, no transmission, no heavy combustion engine needed) we hacve already a 40KWH battery for the same weight as an ICE drivetrain. With the new mentioned battery (on internet...sodium) with a weight of 2 kg/kwh we will have in the future when those are in production a 80KWH battery in a car with the same weight as an ice car. (In 2013 a 5,1KWH battery was only 20 kg...at that moment the best which could be found on the market (less than 20kg due to the rules of the world solar challenge)...already less than now the tesla batteries. The technic in batteries is not on a stand still)

@@rickbackous1041 can the Chinese make ones that dont burst into flames?

If batteries were not a suppressed technology, we would have had EVs from day one.

The hydrogen fuel cell vehicle has been coming for years. Will it ever get here?

@@passingthrough812 it already has , in japan at least

A fuelcell car is just another full electric car. No combustion engine. Sorry that I have to tell you this. A fuel cell is just a electricity producer using hydrogen for this. Unfortunate the efficiency of the H2 cycle is very low. On the wheels these cars are worse in efficiency as ICE cars...partly due to the need of compression into the fuel tanks for H2.Also those fuelstation can explode (as we have seen in Oslo) And for the construction of fuel cells we need very expensive and difficult to get elements (irridium)...for the membrane. H2 is NO advisable option for cars. It could be an option when weight is very important (planes).

@@reiniernn9071 The H2 vehicle is not an electric car. It uses an I.C.E. using hydrogen instead of gasoline.

@@take942 If you are typing fuelcell in your comment I can only assume that you are writng abou a car wth a fuelcell technic...."Toyota's "H2" hydrogen fuel cell "

Toyota now has a real Hydrogen engine that can produce 400 plus hp. an can go 400 miles.

I shared the same videos. very good

@@lastmanstanding1699Sorry but fuel cells are too expensive

​@@lastmanstanding1699toyota 💩👎

Formwound electric motors are not anything new - they've been a part of industry for more than 8 decades - If Elon is crowing over this, he's assuming the rest of the world is ignorant

Actually, there are no rare elements in EV batteries. Not any rare earths (which aren't actually particularly rare) and no really rare elements like the platinum used in fuel cells. And no, the battery will not need replacing. Not sooner, Not later. The battery in most EVs will last the life of the cars, and is likely to have enough capacity when the car is junked that the battery will be re-purposed as stationary solar backup storage.

@@jimmurphy5355 A very optimistic promotion of EV's you have there. You don't consider Lithium-ion (Li-ion), Nickel Manganese cobalt (NMC), Nickel Metal Hydride (Ni-MH), Lithium Sulphur (Li-S), rare elements then? Batteries to date can have a very short lifetime dependent on the environment used in and the type of cooling also disposing of them is very difficult and damaging to the environment. As for reusing an exhausted and depleted EV battery for other purposes in not practical or efficient.

@@mrofnocnon I don't consider those elements rare because they are not rare. Batteries do not have very short lifetimes. Properly designed EV batteries last for hundreds of thousands of miles. I just sold my first EV, a Tesla model 3. I had driven it 104,000 miles. Its battery still had almost 90% of its original capacity. Next owner can drive the car another 100,000 or more miles. You need to expand your knowledge. There is a thriving market in used EV batteries. People are using them for solar storage every day.

@@mrofnocnon new Tesla batteries do not use cobalt

You do need to keep in mind that every litre of fuel you use has used Cobalt to be produced. That will continue as long as fossil fuels are refined for ICVs. Cobalt is no longer needed for EV batteries. So, if you are concerned about Cobalt usage, you should be planning to stop using petrol/diesel.

Hahaha...

How every body wanna charge it...at home or.....on the parking lot?

You mean like the 50 out of 4 million that caught on fire? 0.001%.

in stores? lol.

​@@ddeboy002: Maybe you have no stores in your country, -we have. Chic and sophisticated, with champagne, snacks and a personal demonstration. They even come to pick you up at home if you have an appointment. That's how I bought my last 2 Model S's

Statistically, about 0.001% of Teslas have caught on fire. Thats 50 out of 4 million vehicles. Gas cars…. Not so safe.