Elon's Big Plan for Twitter's Future (kinda sucks) 

Hey quick message from me (Jack, the guy in the videos). Thanks for all the support on this video and all the others on this channel, really wild to see it blow up so fast. One thing I would like to note though. Some people, primarily those defending Elon, have taken to the comments to question the objectivity and impartiality of this video. That’s a fair critique, this video isn’t totally neutral, but it wasn’t trying to be. For those of you who don’t know, TLDR also run a number of other news RU-vid channels where we make apolitical and neutral news content. However, this isn’t a news channel, it doesn’t fall under the same umbrella. Now that doesn’t mean I want to mislead, lie or fabricate on this channel. We’re still sticking to the facts and the reality, but when it comes to business I’m willing to throw in a little more spice. You might not agree with my takes on things, that’s fine. But I think there’s absolutely nothing incorrect in this video, just maybe a take that you disagree with. Feel free to comment about that, and I’ll try to respond, but please realise that this channel isn’t aiming for total neutrality - rather factual, semi-opinionated news reporting. There’s no agenda, it’s just my interpretation of events, as someone who’s not only running a small business, but also someone who’s worked on digital marketing for one of the huge brands mentioned in this video. If that doesn’t sit right with you that’s 100% fine, I just wanted to set expectations & explain the separation of Business and News content - Jack

the y axis being all over the place was intentional, it makes marginal gains seem massive, and wrong choice of axis in graphs is one of the most common ways to make them misleading without publishing false information. Also, out of all the metrics, he only chose to post these because they were the positive ones, I am pretty sure there are bad ones that he just did not tell everyone about.

Funny that Elon spent all that time saying the monetizeable users were actually all bots, and now he’s peddling those exact same metrics as completely truthful.

people joining and being on Twitter currently being a "good thing" is like someone's house burning down, people coming to watch, and then saying "look at all these people, I have never had so many visitors!"

"The latest data... AS SHARED BY ELON!" Yeah... We can truly trust the data shared by the guy notorious for BS'ing investors about having secured government funding when he hadn't. Nothing to be suspicious about here.

I look forward to the future *tldr BUSINESS* video on _"Why Elon's graphs were misleading"._

i don't see how elon's going to turn twitter into wechat with no employees.

Yes, Twitter's numbers are up; it's called Rubbernecking. Rubberneck has been described as a human trait associated with morbid curiosity. It is often the cause of traffic jams, sometimes referred to as "gapers' block" or "gapers' delay."

Yep, pretty sure those millions of new users are totally definitely all real people...

Honestly, given he fired most of the stats department, I'm pretty sure this data is crap.

The hate speech thing is also suspect considering they simply aren't addressing a lot of hate speech on the platform. It's like saying "robberies are down 50%" because they decided to just not address 50% of all robberies anymore lol

I don’t understand why he didn’t just spend $44 billion building a new app.

Does the number of signups include parody accounts people made to troll companies for 8$ or are those filtered out?

New signups figures don't meant anything. I remember Google+ boasting "record new signups" and claiming to be the "fastest growing social media platform" with graphs to show. But what they didn't say is that this was the result of them forcing a Google+ account on everyone who had a Google-related account such as GMail and RU-vid. Nobody was actually using the platform still and we all know how it ended for Google+ despite those impressive-looking, yet hollow numbers. It is perfectly possible that all those new accounts for Twitter are bots or trolls coming over to contribute to the dumpster fire with no intent to provide real contribution.

Elon Musk: I like Free Speech Also Elon Musk: Copies the design of an app used in an authoritarian nation

The people that record and plot all that data were fired. Jimmy from the mail room does a decent job of hand-drawing convincing looking charts though.

The everything app is the meta equivalent of meta verse.

He has no moderation team, without ever having a Twitter account, I can almost garrentee that the growing graph is bots and Trolls.

2M signups per day! Bots and fake accounts, if true

I'm very curious how many of those new sign-ups are actually bot accounts created to take advantage of the current chaos.

Sounds like he’s trying to pull advertisers back by releasing this information

Without sharing how the stats were collected, it's not possible to judge how twitter is doing. Reclassify hate speech? Suddenly it's going down. Reclassify who counts as a new user? Line goes up.

Wechat works because they have no other options. The chinese have very few choices with apps. We have options. If twitter tries this, it will sink like a bowling ball in a pond.

That's weird... Elon's concerns about bots have disappeared

The list there doesn't come close to doing justice the extent of WeChat's features. There are these things you can join that are like chat groups except they're like low-code-programmed environments that can do anything through apis. E.g. if you walk into a shopping mall and join their "gong zhong hao", you can then view heat maps of the mall, parking occupancy, maps etc. If you don't have wechat in China you're basically f***ed. The only reason this can take off in China is because the government allows it to gain total dominance so that they only have to control one company to control the entire nation.

you only have to look at Twitter's performance on Google Trends to see there's no real increase in interest in the platform, which throws elon's slides into high skeptic territory

Twitter 2.0 is gonna be as world-changing as Quibi.

If he doesn't get advertisement money, twitter is gonna be done, no mater how many new users sign up. And to be honest after the tweets he sent to Tim Cook, why would any company want to invest in a guy who treats their clients like hostages?

I dont think he understands appeal, I used twitter and reddit, mainly because it wasn't bloated like facebook, now he wants it to bloat. At least in the west especially among young people, they like to keep things separate, and putting all eggs in one basket doesn't seem wise. Also while not we chat google and apple ecosystems basically do the same function, but unlike we chat, they blend into the background. Why would I install an app to do things my phone already does then.

The anger over poor graphs 😂😂 love it

I am betting 99.9% of the new accounts are bots if it anything by my account experience is like

So the new plan for Twitter is to become Tumbr with a Payment Processor?

Hey TLDR! I just wanna say I've been a fan of your work for awhile and I really appreciate the effort you all go threw to bring us the news every day like this. You guys are amazing.

More users doesnt mean twitter will succeed. A ship can still sink even if everyone is onboard. Advertisers and data collection is social media's bread n butter.

Tbh I'm kind of surprised Telegram is bigger than Twitter, it grows super fast :0

"Sorry, the person that did the graphs was fired" - Twitter

Just because twitter isn't dead yet doesn't mean the ship won't run out of fuel and sink later.

Not a single one of these graphs seems to show a trend that started after his acquisition, unless the years indicated are just totally screwed up. The trends all seem to start even before he announced interest in buying it at all.

These ideas for Twitter 2.0 seem pretty good... in like 2015. Back when the secure DM and payment apps were starting to take off and there was room to compete in the space, they might have had a chance.

These slides were provided by Elon and you believe them?

Would guess the growth is mostly bots ironically… Twitter will get money, but probably from not reputable sources. It’ll survive until people move on from the platform.

Of course there are more sign ups! Twitter has been getting free publicity on every news channel for weeks now!

No way on gods green earth is hate speech down, Twitter has literally never been more toxic. And that's saying something.

"The value of information is determined by the reliability of the source." A quote from Angels and Demons, which is kind of ironic, I'll admit, that book has very little basis in actual science or history, but a great quote nonetheless. To apply it here, the source of the information is the one guy who stands to benefit the most from Twitter looking good at the moment, which means it should be taken with very big grains of salt.

Thank you TLDR I just found you last week and quickly became on of my fave channels! Subscribed! ❤

There's a lot of people exiting birdapp for other social media platforms, and I suspect there are also a lot of people who are leaving it and not bothering to migrate to new platforms. There's also a lot of people creating accounts b/c they want to see what is happening on the site, but will likely not stick around. And of course, lots of musky sycophants. I don't think things will continue this way without a big change in management.

I’m just waiting for the day Musk declares war on TLDR for the crime of graph hate 😂

As a lifelong data analyst, I can say that it is possible to produce almost any graph shape from any data data source without lying, just by selecting proper methodics...

I dont post on twitter. Ive retweeted a whole 2 things before. I have 70 bot accounts following me, if everyones account is like mine, there is a shitload of bots that nobody seems to want to do anything about.

One reason for the decrease in hate speech numbers can be that many people who would previously report hateful tweets have left the platform or have given up reporting.

Given his fascination with WeChat, its hard to not use that as a potential blueprint for what he's aiming. But even if you compare it to an app like the starbucks app. If twitter decides to introduce a wallet, and allow people to use it to buy things. It can act as an interest free loan for twitter to prop up their cash reserves.

I don't trust these graphs as far as I can throw them

Elon's choking on the _Red Pill_ he swallowed …

The only impressive thing about these graphs is their lack of quality control.

I'm still hoping Twitter goes down in flames and becomes far less influential. It's a hellscape.

Kind of skeptical of Elon’s graphs. It would be like Elon using a digital Sharpie like how Trump Sharpie-d a map.

Longer texts, videos, premium, own payment system and weird ads and encrypted messages? WTF musk parodies Telegram?

last time I was this early, Elon Musk didn't own twitter

Business that care about democracy, won't advertise there anymore.

"Everything" functionality (and even branding) has a very long history of doing well in APAC and weirdly poorly in the west. Yahoo's sprawling homepage did really well in Asia versus Google's single clean search bar; but exactly the reverse was true in the accessible developed markets, handing Google the win... But even today, Asian customers are perfectly happy for conglomerate brands to be on everything from phones to movie studios - whereas in the west that kind of thing is seen most commonly in dystopian fiction. (Even though corporate structures are basically the same in both regions; western consumers just hate being reminded of it.) Even college humor did a parody of "everything apps" like 10 years ago. Also, payments requires a higher security standard, and I'm curious to know how well that's going to work if Twitter doesn't even have the security staff necessary to prevent something like the bot swarm that just happened to drown out the lockdown protests. Also also: WeChat is sometimes *required* for payments in China, because it's easier for the government to monitor and control your access to money, which would be a PR landmine if that's how the service is perceived.

"A multi-billonaire with several under his belt will not be able resurrect an already failing social media company"?

You cracked me up with that jibe, "Thanks to Statistica for that proper adult graph....." I can feel the burn through the screen.

It’s very very early to be making predictions and I’ll be closely following the Twitter story for the next 2 - 3 years. The success of RU-vid is “mostly” down to the incentives it offers creators. Can Elon offer bigger incentives and still make a profit? The success of PayPal is down the convenience of being able to send money to 100+ countries for a small fee. This is a regulatory nightmare ! Let’s discuss this again in June 2023 😺 !

Muskrat truly has gone far-right with his use of PragerU quality graphs! 🤣

though, as a private company aren't there now zero laws requiring any truth to public announcements regarding the business? in the past i used to somewhat trust direct statements about a corporation's objective stats not because i thought they don't want to lie but because they could get in legal trouble for misleading shareholders.

I left twitter the day he announced he was going to buy it

Hey now you can say the N-word and express bigotry on Twitter without being censored. What a blessing from Elon.

I actually specifically want a western version of WeChat, as it just makes so much sense. I do not want, nor do I think Elon / Twitter can pull it off. As for his statistics, they are very cherry-picked and honestly makes me feel like things are even worse than we think.

Now that the video's mentioned it, I can't think of any of Elon Musk's successful ventures that *didn't* have some kind of first movers advantage. Starlink is probably the closest you can get, but even that one has the whole set up your own tower thing to make it stand out.

Newsflash: it's possible to fake a graph

Guys remember those deceptive ads by google claiming that the search button on a chrome is the "everything button" maybe Twitter is taking a play from google

I get that it's rather important news, but I'm also getting a bit tiered of hearing about this guy every day. There must be something more important for you guys to report on than Elon doing dumb stuff for a 100th time this week.

If he had changed the definition of hate speech that would also explain the reduced number of hate speech

Fake it till you make it. He's using this old trick. He seems desperate.

I think the next big social media app will be a social market place. I mean by this a space where people can socialise whilst being completely in control of their data and how it is used and where it goes. Data is the currency of the online world and is also a source of great power and influence. As people are realising this I believe a big shift is coming and the next Facebook or Twitter will get on this concept early so when the shift happens people will have a starter place to migrate to.

Human's are simple. We see big fire. We gather around.

In the US being a monopoly is not illegal by itself. Your company has to be convicted of engaging in anti-competitive behavior

How many of these signups are bots?

Yeah I just don't see people really going for payment apps. after all the time around many places don't use them at all, and many people just don't use them.

Used to be, people would gather en masse to watch a public hanging. Having a crowd is not always a positive thing.

Keep in mind a lot of new users are fake users for trolling now that you can buy authentication check marks.

My experience on Twitter is that no-one looks at the videos.

There is no Twitter in the future.

As Benjamin Disraeli famously said 'there are lies, damned lies, and statistics'. These look a lot like statistics.

Instead of improving the features that are already there. They rather plan on doing something that other apps are already doing better. The exact same problem that Meta and Instagram have made, which drastically ruined Instagram in the long run out of desperation. So far I don't think anyone could predict the outcome, I guess we'll just have to wait and see

Could Twitter use Block for payments? Darcy owns Block (10% of it) and still has a sizeable stake in Twitter.

We have no idea how these graphs are scaled without at least 2 values shown on the Y axis.

He does have a cult behind him, that’s audience, and most of those trusts him blindly

The important thing, and the only thing that really matters, have the advertisers returned? Where's the chart for that?

Two words "Tesla truck"

I wouldn't trust Musk with any of my data, and not interested in giving him a dime.

THAT IS A DECK OF LIES!!!!

It is a private company. As long as he doesn't lie to investors he can say whatever he wants

Bots were a problem before Musk took over Twitter, but now I'm seeing more bots in my inbox and mentions in the last few weeks than I have in the last 2 years of Twitter (:

Loving the new TLDR Business channel...

REALLY DISCUSSING THIS GRAFICS IS LIKE READING AN FTX COVER LETTER FOR NEW INVESTORS

Isn’t Apple kinda like WeChat with extra steps?

Elon Musk as the private owner of Twitter feels so strange. It's like we landed on an alternative timeline. I am wondering how he will get his invested money back (ROI). The future of Twitter doesn't look very promising.

Jack is certainly not an idiot. I couldn't find this video on nebula though.

His first Business was Zip2