Elusive Glitches: The Story of Early Explosives 

I mean it is technically a victory in an any% finish scenario. There still isn't a way to get explosives early from what I have gathered. Whether or not that "matters" idk, but I would assume early explosives would be pretty useful for something like 100% maybe.

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@QY well if it's a SPOILER it shouldn't be in the top comments.

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he raised his voice during near that point in the script, too. His feeling of frustration was palpable.

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They also didn't update the cycle time fo MM3D either, so it's slightly faster and first cycle is REALLY FAST compared to original

Wait is this the joshuafe8 that has over 100K viewer points in Linkus' twitch chat

220th like for the out of date frames 😔

his boss puts him under a lot of pressure, i mean its 12 hours of non-stop bottom of the barrel hard work. he really is in a tight spot, so i can understand him breaking loose at night.

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@@chungman6167 good, good, good...

I also thought he was talking about a Navi Dive xD

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Personally I just think they forgot to add it to night version

@@TheGameCreator13 that and combined with a lack of need to makes sense. They probably focused on other things and forgot about it.

The first method for getting into BotW involved using a cucco to go out of bounds. So even that rock wouldn't prevent getting into BotW early,

@@TheGameCreator13 I don't think they forgot, I think they were just lazy and saw no reason to bother. "Well, cucco diving cant be done at night, dont even bother throwing that rock there in the night map" They're not that incompetent that they'd just forget to make a change on a night map

Did it really take that long to find navi diving? That's so wild to me. It's so easy lol it's like one of two speedrun glitches my casual ass can do

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A lot of the others are also, in retrospect, because of the discoveries that were made since.

oot3d has more useful glitches

LOL mb i thought this was ZBR

I, for one, didn't like that. I feel as if he said 'to this day' too much.

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you were like forget early explosive's for magic lets just skip explosives all together.

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not who you are Graham crackers will always be better than saltine crackers.

My favorite speed runs are souls games all bosses. Some any% is fun because of glitches but only if I already like the game

It's really cool watching games' categories diverge, imo. It's so fun seeing two radically different sides of games proliferate!

Definitely, credits warps are so boring, honestly.

Sounds like what they tried to do with zero mission. But anything deliberate would likely get discovered way too quick, based on ridiculous stuff like mario 64 and it's continuing deconstruction

@@FFKonoko I was hoping by the time I learned how to make a game, my fellows in the field would have enough know-how to be able to pull something like this off. It only has to be slightly to the side of always working and not fixed, really. Organically grown is fine. XD

bombchu and bombs are two different things with bombchu being (almost) useless in the game

@@sansnom5269 I know; I played Ocarina of Time 3D multiple times back in the early 2010s. I was just pointing out how Catch-22 this scenario is, really.

I used the bomb to get the bomb

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@@BigMommaGart I used the war to end wars.

Until the tektite hover,

the downside is that with a solution comes a lack of motivation for potential glitch hunters that watch the video to continue (or start) hunting.

It's already been found? Did you watch the whole video?

What will be found? Did you watch the video?

@@Precel42 Early explosives =\= skipping explosives.

Early explosives is impossible. I think That's the moral of the story. Sometimes you get so focused on one thing you ignore other options. You don't need to get them early you just dont even need them.

@@unclevivid9028 I know I'm 2 months late but I'm commenting anyway. This is a terrible mindset to have. The whole Elusive Glitches series is about making skips of things that are currently impossible to do. For the longest time barrier skip was impossible to, but that didn't stop people from trying to find a possible way. Even if Early explosives isn't useful in any% runs anymore, if found it could be useful in 100% or all dungeons. Who knows, in the future it might be found that you don't even need Farore's wind to wrong warp. There might be a glitch found where you need explosives but an't have a bomb bag in your inventory. We just don't know. In the original Oot, there were many glitches found that had no use until later. Ocarina items for example. It was found that you could use any item as an ocarina relatively early on, it was a fun glitch but had no use. Not until wrong warping was discovered. Then all of a sudden this simple glitch became a key component of the much larger glitch.

Yeah I'm wondering the same thing

Realistically, I would think not. First of all, many "clip out of bounds" glitches take comparatively little time to actually perform once consistency is obtained. It's why they tend to save so much time in the first place, regardless of the game. Second, employing Explosives Early requires travel to a tertiary location in the chain. Having to detour to get Explosives Early takes time, but if you can Skip Explosives (by clipping) then said detour isn't even required. So you're saving time on that entire chain of events. ----- Which, I want to highlight the video's own stated times. Explosives Early was expected to remove about 7 minutes from the 40-minute consistent times. Skipped Explosives winds up regularly saving 8 minutes. This means someone who would pull Explosives Early would need to find somewhere to save a full extra minute to remain competitive.

@@onijester56 it was simply that one little question stuck in the back of my head after the video. as great as a happy ending is, it fails to encourage glitch hunters, and if that tiny ray of light existed, it would help make up for it. i have no experience pulling off either skip in the video, but set up time is something to consider for both glitches. it was only mentioned briefly, but i did hear him claim that the death mountain fairy skip was difficult and finicky to set up, so it is theoretically possible that a detour could be faster if a consistent method was found. I also thought runners liked having back up plans, which even a slower explosives detour could provide for marathon runs.

@@cullenlatham2366 I know I'm about 2 months late, but I'm going to comment regardless. Glitch hunters are a dedicated section of the speedrunning community who've taken it upon themselves to find glitches no matter what they are or how significant it might be. While their search can be focused like trying to find explosives early or whatnot, just because an alternative is found doesn't mean they will stop searching for it or glitches in general. There are many glitches that are found, but don't have a use until much later. A good example would be Ocarina items from OoT. The ability to use any item as an ocarina was found long before it became relevant, it was a fun glitch but wasn't really useful at the time. Not until wrong warping was discovered. Then all the sudden this small glitch became a key function of a much larger glitch. You also have other categories to think about. I'm pretty sure early explosives would be useful in 100% runs of the game or an all dungeons run. Even if not, it could be useful in a future glitch that requires you to have explosives, but no bomb bag, we just don't know. This is why any glitch that's found is worth the investment, no matter how seemingly insignificant it seems. I would like to say while I'm not a glitch hunter myself, this I think is the mindset of many a glitch hunter at least to some degree.

@@yppahdalg2397 i was speaking mostly from that same mindset of trying to find the value of it. I was seeing if there was any hypothetical advantage to finding it fast for those of us who only have a casual interest in glitch hunting. If there is hope, that leads to inspiration. with the "happy ending", there is less reason for would-be glitch hunters to look into the scenarios that could result in such a development. The other side of the coin is that anyone actively glitch hunting for the game will now put early explosives lower on their bucket list as an alternative already exists.

That's not any%, though! It would be a separate category