I love how we can pretty much understand Carlyle’s personality so well with so little scenes of him. From how he treats Max we know he doesn’t care about his workers dying on the job to how he refers to cars as “wheeled vehicles” while severely underestimating the severity of his situation on the ground, showing his naivety, placing all trusts onto his droids and looking confused when they cut through his vehicle pretty much sums up the kind of privileged life he has had on Elysium and all he cares about to is taking control of Elysium with the datas he had (literally) in his mind.
yes, but no completely true, if you look into the elysium film database, John Carlyle is born on 15 october 2010, he lived on earth for sometime as he wasnt hired by armadyne (on earth) until his 20s (2033)
He's like 100 years old, also on the closeup scenes you can se something he has that no other characters we se do, he ha sthe word RICH branded into his cheekbone, so he probably went trough some dark shitt when everything came crashing down. He probably mostly forgot and grew somewhat soft tho
He's like 100 years old, also on the closeup scenes you can se something he has that no other characters we se do, he ha sthe word RICH branded into his cheekbone, so he probably went trough some dark shitt when everything came crashing down. He probably mostly forgot and grew somewhat soft tho
@@leonake4194 "We did make up our own brands because we couldn’t get enough of them," Blomkamp explains of labels such as "Riche," a moniker that is branded onto the skin of characters who have partaken of a beauty enhancement. "We had a binder with thousands of fake brands and awesome logos. But they don’t mean anything to people, they just look like future brands. It doesn’t have the same resonance." Nope, just designer face, aka ultra rich people stuff.
@@adrianen9440yeah I really liked it. I'm surprised they didn't just use it as a weapon, especially against those droids. Maybe it has a long cooldown or something like that. But it would definitely be an overpowered weapon; a good example would be the end fight against Kruger- a shot with that thing would obliterate him even with the exosuit on.
@@mcrae9999 My assumption is that it's some sort of converted industrial cutter. The shapes are for molding or something, and the power demand is only good for a single use or maybe a couple if it's not attached to a power source. Also, I think while it could theoretically be a good weapon, consider that while it would kill someone pretty easily if they were in its way, it's pretty big and might have a preset 'radius', so if someones too far away or even too close it won't work very well.
He should've used the excess money he spent on the fancy shuttle/droids for a standard shuttle and regular droids so he could have just purchased more droids to defend him. I mean really? ONLY 2 droids for protection? If you were him, would you feel safe? Fck no.
@@mcrae9999 I mean, to be fair, those two droids required highly specialized munitions (the Airburst ammo) and coordinated effort to take down. Did you see those normal bullets just pinging off of them? If they didn't bring the Airburst they'd be hopelessly fucked to be honest.
And to believe that Blomkamp was not allowed to make a Alien movie... what a masterpiece would that be. Second thing, the droid hand to hand fight was way more believable than terminators from the new movies throwing everyone around instead of just wanting to crush the human, like the droid from Elysium. I mean, if not for that exo, he would be long dead.
On the other hand, which genius designed a droid that shuts down when you pull its head off?! Those things should have distributed power and smarts and have Zombie-arm-from-Cabin-in-the-Woods level survivability. Like, dumb dude picks up droid arm and sez heh heh I got me a souveniaaaarghgglle and it chokes him out. That's how I'd build 'em anyway.
@@gospelofrye6881 What are they going do, install control chips into each individual part of the droids chassis? And if they did that, who's to say that commands from certain limbs wouldn't interfere with commands directly from the neural control unit/brain?
@@DieNextInLINE "What are they going do, install control chips into each individual part of the droids chassis?" YES. "And if they did that, who's to say that commands from certain limbs wouldn't interfere with commands directly from the neural control unit/brain?" PROGRAMMERS.
@@gospelofrye6881man that machine of yours is so expensive that every parts can function while others will just pump 10 droids that is simple to make vs 1 of yours. Maybe even 20 droids vs 1 droid that you designed. In the end its the practicality, simplicity that will win
@@gospelofrye6881 Redundancy is expensive both financially and in weight/energy costs with needing a good balance to be useful. Its simply more cost effective to make more of them than to harden them and have them become slower/less useful.
This film had its critics saying it wasn't the directors best work going into it with those opinions i was expecting a average three out of five rated film but in my opinion this is a master piece .
It is something else, different, enjoyable (maybe not literally for everyone).. It has it's flaws, but what doesn't? ;) Very talented crew, and, Hardcore Henry.. Hell yeah :D
I loved this movie, the combination of improvised sci-fi weapons, the story, the action, the gore, the exo suits, and god damn, the ChemRail gun, i want to see more stuff like that in other movies, the combo between scifi, futuristic weapons, and combat gore is unreal here
The world building in this is so cool, love the tech and how they hacked modern tech to work with old stuff. I love the hobbled together jankiness, the laptop controlled munitions.
AI and droids don't have the limitations of humans and don't act the same way at all. The biggest thing wrong with this scene is that the droids missed any shots. But hey, plot armour.
@@Salmon_Toastie Yes they would, in real world tests AI has horrible hit rate. When it comes to controlled environments, then yes, they out perform humans but when shit gets chaotic AI folds. Hell, DARPA want to see how well their new combat AI could hand real world marines and ran mock fight... then the marines realized they confused the AI by doing things as simple as cartwheeling at it, holding branches and acting like a tree (I'm no joking about this, these tactics worked), why guy even even found a large cardboard box and went full Solid Snake mode. Every time they sneaked up on the AI without it being able to engage them once.
It got a lot of hate because it's preachy, stupid, Neo-Marxist propaganda with a plot that makes no sense. Just for starters, Earth is overpopulated and nobody on the surface ever bothered to invent anything better than a dirty slum. Why? Because some corporation controls all the means of production, somehow. Why doesn't anyone just make competing businesses that sell other stuff? No idea. As it is, Evil Corp manufactures robots capable of human function by using humans to manufacture them. Whys not just use robots that would work better? Labor theory of value. Communists think human labor has value even if it's worthless or counter-productive, at least in theory. In reality, you go to gulag for not working in cement factory. Anyway, EvilCorp just wants to make police bots that brutalize economically worthless people for no good reason. See how fucking dumb that is? It gets dumber, because Evil Corp and their government also own the ONE space station that apparently has post-scarcity technology. Because they just want to be mean, they won't give everyone free miracle medical beds that can cure everything for no cost. Everyone up there lives in nice homes, with very nice things. At this point, it would make sense for the "reball" faction to want to send someone up there to get some post-scarcity tech. If they could copy that, they could make a million space stations and all the food and medicine they want. But no, because this is a Communist story, they have to be overthrown by space illegal immigrants. There is no truth but the revolution, comrade. That's matt Damon's role. To get up there and fuck up the citizenship system so everyone from Earth can trash Elysium and invent a new slum. It's stupid enough that he also has to take a little sick girl, so you'll remember how BAD you are for not giving everyone your totally free healthcare. Evil Corp hires mercenaries to stop him, because mercenaries are evil, and they fail and everyone gets free healthcare and a borderless society we're never shown the results of. That's just a broad outline of how retarded the script for this movie is. It promised and delivered some cool action scenes and sci-fi, it delivered on that, mostly, but you'd have to be a moron to appreciate the message. Amazingly, a lot of people actually are that fucking stupid, and then they go out and preach more stupidity everyone has to pay for. This movie was "woke" before people broadly started realizing how bad "woke" was.
I love how all of these movies share something in common, look how much alike these robots look to Chappie. Makes you wonder if they're all in the same universe so to speak.
@@rachmatzulfiqar It is an old theory were you can take most science fiction movies and just place them at a different location on a timeline. Imagine district 9 did happen, but that was years ago and is all but forgotten and not really mentioned anymore since 1 it takes place on the other side of the world and 2 who cares anymore. You see the tech, you see the societal implications etc etc. Like how Alien and James Camerons Avatar are likely the same universe, just happening at different points in time. A different "when"
What blasts my mind is ... how the actor playing the role of the antagonist in "Elysium" is the same person who played the role of the protagonist in "Disctric 9". Bruva is versatile AF. Edit: and that SOUNTRACK at the beginning of the clip ... oooooh lord, love it.
I love how William Fichtner portrayed John Carlyle. He's a very cold, unempathetic, and serious CEO. He and DelaCourt (Jodie Foster) may be my favorite characters in this movie.
Seems one was enough to take out a droid. It was dumb of him to waste all 4 that he had so impusively. But if he hadnt then the plot wouldnt have gone forward. Crap writing.
@@god0fgames100 Tbf, this guy was like a factory worker, he may never have shot a gun before, we dunno much about his past. Anyone is gonna keep pulling the trigger until the thing in front of you dies, especially when you don't know how powerful the ammo is.
@@god0fgames100In real life and death situation, you wouldn’t want to shoot a single round and pause to see if your opposer is still alive or not, you would want to continuously shoot just enough rounds on them until you have a clear line of sight that they cannot fight back.
@@god0fgames100 Man, are you telling me if you saw a droid shrug off being shot by normal bullets like it was nothing that you'd stop shooting after just one shot? 'Crap writing'? You must be joking. Your sense of self preservation must be really bad.
The whole event is rich in details its impressive. The gun jammed (showing how precarious things are) but even Elysium robots made a costly mistake (another taunt at corporate's quality) but the cybernetic implants were better than all combined. The scene of the bot destroyed in slo-mo is very sophisticated in showing the conclusion of all that. Awesome cinematography as well
That laser cutting device is one of my favorite scenes, I just love those little subtle attentions to detail suggesting that there’s some sort of requirement and detection to cut particular shapes but just trusting the audience to figure it out instead of babying them and explaining it like most movies do
I think there were a lot of things in that choice. The biggest being, the thing was never going to be coming off of him, he was very realistically going to die. Despite the whole fight being about him trying to live, when facing imminent death, you'll do just about anything and with a very imminent death, nothing else matters. Besides with how bulky it is, if they didn't do it through his shirt, he wouldn't be wearing clothes, nothing would fit. At least it gave him some environmental protection and left him covered up so he wasn't rocking an exosuit nude.
@@Impulset0it looks to be attached to every major joint and skeletal parts, not just the back. Seems like the hip and the elbows/knees were drilled into as well.
Lol its not! omg its just a mediocre ass movie, not a single original concept, character or plot, its just a bunch of stuff recycle from district 9 moved around a little.
Just cuz someone cant make something better, doesnt mean the subject at hand is a master piece. Its an average movie at best, with a generic story, poor movie assets, some very cheap cameras (as you can see in this short clip a few times) and unbelievable scenes.@@teachmehacks
It wasn’t waiting. It shows that the droid is processing targeting data. So, even though it sees Max standing there and has him marked, it has to think “There’s an individual there, he’s a target for termination, now where do I shoot, shoot here, target locked, fire”. It was actually pretty fast for a fully autonomous droid. One thing to note is how the droid threw the grenade directly at one of the cars without even looking, but it could be because it has a radar system that can track vehicles or the transport aircraft feeds them info like video because Carlyle knew there was a car pulling up, how many people were in it, and that they were armed. Well, at least he knew about one car.
Dude pulls out a heavy machine gun for a job like this, and blinds fires it around a corner with the mark, the enemy, and his allies ALL downrange... If he had survived that op(and they succeeded), there would have been a serious conversation with his boss when he got back... Something like: "Well done, hey man, give me every weapon you have on you, here's a toy gun for the next op, once you demonstrate you aren't a danger to yourself and others you can have a real one back."
@@Xydraus he does but that doesn’t excuse his sim being so bad he tags the target, the bodyguard robot half a car away, almost takes out Matt Damon and probably himself as well given how he dumps the damned thing. Camera or no I wouldn’t trust him with anything stronger than afore mentioned water pistol. Those things are designed to hit “barrel” sized targets at ranges of ~600 meters, this guy couldn’t hit a stationary robot at 15 without hosing down the entire vehicle he was there to capture.
He's not blind firing. The weapon has a camera & he's wearing a digital visor / goggles. Remember, they referred to the AK-47 as an heirloom (meaning it's archaic). Everything they're using that looks traditional, has been futuristically modified to be effective for next gen warfare.
@@RED-WEAPON Even with a camera if he was firing a rifle that was single shot I would support your argument. But he put a machine gun and began spraying... may as well have been blind with the spread since he was not augmented or using an exoframe to support the weight and recoil.
It would still make a great car commercial. Took an explosion to a main engine during full acceleration and crashed while its occupant sustained 0 injuries. We find the Car Company is not liable for actions of a few random strangers who interfered on the scene of an accident.
It is interesting that those aerial vehicles could go to the the space station from earth without having to reach escape velocity by just flying straight up towards it.
What's even more amazing is that we see that instead of having weapons on the station itself, they deal with people headed to them through a magical bullshit shoulder fired missile able to not only leave the atmosphere but have enough fuel to hit a ship maneuvering out in high orbit
@@Shinzon23 It is strange that Elysium relies on a handful of people stationed on Earth to stop immigrants when it really does not want immigrants coming in.
@@Shinzon23 Considering that the world there is still capitalist, ofcourse, the fact that elysians still can own anything means that despite the crushing poverty there is still a vast bureaucracy keeping track of who owns what and ows whom what, and a institution that enforces those claims. There is no reason anyone would mass abandon treaties banning weapons in space, especially for private companies.
Was watching the cyberpunk anime yesterday. I’m absolutely fascinated by cybernetic implants/body mods. Some of the exosuit tech really doesn’t seem to be that far off real life developments! Next massive hurdle will be getting the brain to equipment link
@@Condoctuc This movie is as close to an adaptation of that we will get. Enough though this movie came out years before that video game and anime. I haven't played the table top so I'm not sure about the connection there. But I will say this, it's very interesting to see this vs Blade Runner. Blade Runner is based of what people in the 80s thought the future would be like with Japan having a very heavy presence in the US, which is does but not nearly to the extent that that one does. Compared to this one and Cyberpunk Edge Runners were you still do have a Hispanic presence that is felt in the city. Other stuff, with Blade Runner it has LA as being something closer to what people thought of Asia with very tall buildings, and neon lights, this one where if you have been to Mexico some of the buildings there look like what you see in this movie. And to an extent there is still some of that in Cyberpunk, well more so than what we see in Blade Runner. You also do have exo skeletons here, which in Blade Runner I believe are actually outlawed and frowned upon? Since you did have scenes in the first movie where they were making artificial human eyes which was illegal I believe. Main point being how even though they take place in a Dystopian future version of LA, of just how different of an approach they both took.
I love the realism. my father said something about that when I asked him if we will ever have ray guns. he said that guns aren't going anywhere and that the new technology will be in the bullets.
US Army EXACTO program and Nammo's work on miniaturizing complex munitions proves your dad right. Look up 'Nammo 40mm Airburst test' or 'Mk211 Raufoss' and that goes to show how complex the top end bullets and future munitions are. The only problem I can see with those AK rounds is finding an explosive that is powerful enough for how little explosive you could fit, and stable enough to not detonate in the barrel. Usually powerful explosives are incredibly unstable and have to be diluted down with stabilizing agents until they're safe to use. Still, you could absolutely fit a microchip/fuze in a 7.62x39mm's projectile. A bullet like that would be horrific if it went off inside of a person with even a tiny amount of explosive, like closing your fist around a firecracker.
Maybe, at lest for small arms. Now bullets are never going to fully go away, lasers and plasma guns can't replace artillery. However by the end of this century lasers and maybe even particle beam weapons are gong to be common and pulse laser tech has a good chance of supplanting firearms as they would give every solider literal point and shoot accuracy with penetration and stopping power better then you can hope for with a rifle a solider could carry (outside of wearing power armor). Of course, there is still the chance that the military doesn't invest in miniaturizing laser tech and just goes full in on that guns are good enough (especially if they've invested into ETC weapons by that time). That being said, there will be a point in the future (assuming we live long enough as a species) that we advance small arms as far as they can go (recoil becomes the limiting factor) and laser get cheap enough. That'll be the point that pew pews replace them.
Underrated movie and verrryyy underrated scene. Every line mattered. I looked at that AK first time and I was dudeee this weapon again so far into the future? And then character mocks it for being "family heirloom" which makes so much sense xD
Matt Damon is great actor, really great. But it's not his role, to my view. Mega Hollywood star just doesn't fit in this "indie-like" movie (even it's not indie). And his character isn't so deep to play by experienced actor, so they should hire someone less known maybe, and pay more to scenario team) Anyway, i enjoyed this movie.
Agreed, but it could be a case of (even though District 19 was a moderate hit), the studio dictated that Neill Blomkamp had to have a big name star in order to get funding for the movie and get the budget he wanted. If the studio gets Matt Damon, they feel comfortable putting up the money and green lighting the movie... they know Damon will bring in more viewers than an unknown. I thought both District 19 and Elysium were fantastic, original films. I'm so sad that Neill has all but disappeared from making big feature movies.
@@bobafeet1234 IIRC Blompkamp had wanted to Eminem and Die Antwoord's Ninja (the rapper) to play the role originally, but both turned it down. I think Benicio Del Toro would have been a great choice (he's amazing in "Sicario" and "Way of the Gun"); a known actor but not Matt Damon-level famous.
This movie was WICKED ! I loved it. I can totally see the future somewhat like this for sure. The " haves " and the " have nots" of the earth such a massive gap you live off planet ...
Everyone that contributes to this scene should be proud. I hold this movie high, even above John wick in terms of background concept. I will tell my kid about this and those badass AK, and also tell my granchild to not fuck around with African born British samurai
I just realized Cyberpunk's mission where V/Aldecaldos shoot down the Kang Tao pod is very similar to this sequence. At least I find it quite familiar.
This movie is of course about class struggle, so the title _Elysium_ is fitting because the Latin name for Olympus is Elysium, which is the heavens in Roman mythology.
Apple watches were way better than her watch by 2015, and this movie came out in 2013. No need to wait for until 2077 for most of this cool stuff. Pretty sure he's flying over Oakland.