Ember RV - First Month Ownership Experience Revisited One Year Later 

All my friends who bought RVs during last 2 years faced the same endless problems and torn years of life when a long-awaited vacation turned into unbearable torment and large financial losses😭

Stories like this is why I opted to build my own camper out of a cargo trailer. I only camp 2 days at a time in a state park with electrical hook up so water tanks and showers are not part of my build. I kept it simple with a kitchen in the nose with the rest of the trailer open and can still be used to haul if needed. If I ever have an issue I know how to repair myself. I look at it as a ready to go hard sided tent with no issues. It’s not for everyone but works for me with no hassles. Thanks for your insight and happy camping.

John, this sounds like a nightmare! I don’t think it’s just ember. I think all manufacturers are having issues with units built in 2021 and 2022. We’ve heard so many issues we’ve almost decided not to upgrade. Thanks for the update.

What a POS company for not taking it back. I get 100% what first year new RV issues are; however, this one was clearly one they should have taken back no questions asked - glad you put video out ppl need to see this.

Thank you for sharing your experience with the new Ember. It never ceases to amaze at the poor quality of rv's in general. The price goes on before the quality goes in!

Thanks for sharing. As a retiree, I've been thinking/fantasizing about buying a RV, but this video cured me completely. You saved me - and likely many others - a lot of money, heartache and misery. It is what it is and in this case, the truth hurts.

My goodness, what a great service you are providing John. As you always do, exceptional analysis.

Unfortunately problems like this are the norm with Elkhart trailers. As a former rv trailer employee i can tell you its all to common. This is exactly why I didnt want to spend my money in Elkhart when i purchased my new rv last month. I bought an Outdoors rv from Oregon. Its worth the effort to get one of these as they are a far superior build. Ive been all through this rv and have yet to find a problem! I wish you luck with your next purchase!

We purchased in 2019 a new nucamp 400 boon dock light, an upgrade for us from a nucamp 320 CSS. In owning the 320, we had a good idea what we needed to check and inspect but even then there were some issues. Fortunately for us, nucamp has stood behind their product and fixed each issue. These issues, all except one, were minor and easy fixes for nucamp. The major one was a low spot in the floor at the entry way. After we took pictures and sent them to nucamp, they scheduled an appointment and replaced the entire floor. They explained the cause was inadequate draining of condensation from the a/c unit due to a design flaw. They were upfront and honest, fixed the floor and the drain issue. The point I wanted to make was I enjoy RV reviews and a few years ago thought we would upgrade to one of the models titled Black Series. Most of the youtube videos were nothing but positive but then we found one made by an actual owner. He listed the nightmare he was having and all the issues. Well, we’re on a cross country trip and after setting up, were out for dinner and spotted a Black Series trailer on a large RV lot. Stopped to check it out and not surprising every issue the youtube noted we saw. Shabby wiring, terrible cabinet lamination, cabinets not shutting, water leaking etc. We were told by a very unenthusiastic sales person the Black Series we were looking at had a full solar charge and full fresh water tanks. Great, we activated the water pump and saw water shooting out of the plumbing under the sink and leaking in the bathroom. The batteries showed full charge but half of the lights failed to work as well as the a/c unit. Our t@b has about 35k miles on her and we are still in love with her. Whenever we think about upgrading, we compare what we are looking at new to what we have and so far, we haven’t found anything that justifies selling the t@b and getting into something new. Hope you get a new rig and get out camping soon.

Thanks for telling the whole story. We had figured Ember got involved causing you to pull the video. Great advice on new models and new companies. Two thumbs up for you!

I had high hopes for Ember when they came out. I went to look at one about 50 miles away. After seeing numerous videos on Ember they are no longer on my list. Thought they would be different but turns out more of the same which plagues the RV industry as a whole.

We had looked at Ember when we were searching for our new trailer last year, but the poor manufacturing quality was evident even on the dealer lot. Great advice here, John! I hope they get their act together.

This is a true wake-up call for me. There are many aspects of purchase and maintenance that need to be considered. Thank you.

You raise VERY good points. We were basically Beta testers for Rockwood Geo Pro. We also got rid of the RV after a year. I did look at Ember RV but the dealer for them in our area does not bring them in unless you prepay. Forget that! Plus I could tell the dealer would not be able to fix it since they had nothing like it. VERY short-sighted bad business.

I honestly thought Ember would be my next RV. After seeing this I’m on the fence considering my local dealer doesn’t carry them and the nearest dealer is 500mi away. If Ember is listening, they should sponsor you as a brand ambassador and give you a new flawless RV to use for a year. Maybe you just got a lemon. I’m super thankful our Winnebago 2306BHS only came with ONE small issue that I easily fixed. Agreed on the solar, my dealer wasn’t trained on my FLX package and Winnebago failed to make a video about it too. I need to make one since I’m in tech and figured it out. We deserve better for the amount of money these units cost.

Hi John: how informative your videos are. We got our first ever travel trailer in 8/22, and basically got lucky with a great dealer. After years of tent camping, we decided to buy our trailer . We went to our local dealer , Winnebago Motor Homes (Rockford IL) and have never looked back. They are very good to deal with, fixed a couple recalls, and minor glitches, and installed a soft start in a reasonable time at a reasonable price . To me, the dealer you have is all the difference. A good family run one is priceless Thanks John Micro mini 2108DS

This is what you call the classic runaround All these RVs are no good they all have the same problems Thanks a lot for posting this video A lot of people don't do this all you hear is about the good stuff you don't hear about what's really going on

I think you definitely got better treatment because you had videos on RU-vid, and that's not saying a lot for Ember. I joined an early group on Facebook with some of the first owners and many wannabes who were waiting for a dual axle. Once there were numerous leak and slide issue complaints and the group of wannabes were asking hard questions and sounding a little mutinous, the group was shut down with the administrator saying "I'm very busy and have to shut this group down and start an owners only group." That told me all I needed to know about Ember. Instead of letting the wannabes see if they fixed issues and took responsibility they shut the group down. I see a lot of comments from people thinking Embers are so great. All I can say is I belong to many groups trying to get an idea of what owners are dealing with and Ember's FB group is the only one that was shut down when the heat was turned up. All the others air the good, bad and ugly.

I owned a 2001 Prowler for 13 years with only 2 minor warranty issues. And averaged about 50 nights a year in it. It did end up with two soft spots in the floor from a leaking window and leaking water heater but all of the systems still functioned when I sold it. In 2018 I started looking at Toy Haulers and realized I needed to upgrade my truck first which happened in 2019. Just as I was about to pull the trigger the world shut down and prices skyrocketed. I instead converted my 6x12 enclosed trailer into a one person toy hauler with everything but running water. I have camped at least 100 nights in it since. I am now back to searching for factory toy haulers, but keep coming across videos like this one that make me think I may just build out a larger trailer for my retirement project.

Great video. We'll documented. I'm extremely fortunate that I have small time RV shop. He actually has very few new RVs on his lot. He Said in the last 2 years his inventory are used model's from 4 to 7 years old. He completely runs through and reconditions it before he puts it on his lot ready to go. Nice guy and really doesn't through any manufacturer under the bus. People go to this guy for his used reconditioned units because of his experience. I dread the day he retires.

Holy Crap! I will NEVER buy an Ember. I was actually looking at an Ember model. Thank you for sharing.

Me and my wife have been dreaming about getting a travel trailer to stop paying hotel bills but with videos like this, the price of gas to tow and rv parks so booked it seems like more stress than fun.

I bought an Ember 221 msl in April, 2023 and I'm very happy with it. They appear to have remedied many of the early problems. I've been full time for over 3 months and have only had a couple of small issues that I took care of.

This is exactly why we keep procrastinating on selling our older 2012 Springdale with a good old rack and pinion slide system. Even though it was considered a starter model, it has been fantastic. We bought it new for a great price. When looking at new trailers we are always discouraged by the many flaws, dings, crooked cabinets, etc. and the high prices. We really want a different floor plan that will work better for our retirement but will probably buy used. Hopefully from someone who has had good luck like we have. Thanks for the advice!

Great video John, thanks for sharing. NOT buying new models of anything - cars, trucks, rvs , is good advice. I have a 2018 KZ Spree escape purchased from the original owner and I've learned so much with it. Nothing has failed to date and Im so thankful for it. The more RVs I read about and inspect in person the more I'm impressed with units produced PRE covid.

John, I am so sorry for your ordeal. A couple of points to be made. First of all, I purchased a 2022 Ember 171 FB and on the first trip the gray tank did not function. I also found another issue and went back to the dealer (the dealer never tested the gray tank during it's PDI and pushed me off for three months). I found a closer dealer who had just become an Ember dealer and they jumped right on it, fixed the gray tank and Ember had to send the front cabinet to them as the prior dealer left the large window slightly opened and water damage occurred. So, my experience with Ember has been a good one...they took care of the issue and the new dealer made it right. As for your comment about buying from established brands...wow! That does not hold water! Our last RV was a Tiffin Motorhome Class A. That was a beautiful rig, but i had to have that thing road serviced on every trip we made in the first year! We had way too many RV repairs, beyond the ones that I made myself (basic stuff that should never have happened if managed at manufacturing). In my opinion, this whole industry is a joke, honestly. Coming from the boat world, if boats were made like RVs (with basically no manufacturing controls, etc.) the transoms would be falling off! Anyway, Ember did right by me. I had a problem that the selling dealer should have found, but the new dealer jumped in and got me taken care of. We have enjoyed the "Roller Home" and it serves our purposes for our current camping season of life. Just wanted folks to know it is not all bad. We do love our Ember. Thanks John!

Thanks for sharing this John! I'm sorry that you had to take one for the team. I just wonder when a new RV owner will be able to feel confident again, it certainly isn't now. I too know of many people who simply can't handle the frustration and disappointment of their new big dollar purchases any longer and are ready to take a loss. So sad..

Thank you for posting this!!!! My wife and I have been narrowing down our options and Ember is at the top of our list. I had a funny feeling about it being a new brand non established brand. I really appreciate your honesty and boldness to show us in the spirit of helping us. I think we will go with. Northwood product call Nash with off the grid package. Thank you again 🙏

The Ember did look promising when I first saw them online. The only thing that scared me was the very high price. Last summer I found a pre-owned Geo Pro 16BH. A week later, the slide ended up having s similar problem as your Ember, it kept jamming on one side. A local dealer gave an estimate of $2700 to fix the issue. I was so turned off by the repair cost, I sold the unit 6 months later. I will likely never buy another towable RV with a slide out.

I feel your pain! We purchased a 2021 Riverside Retro 193! It was a lemon! Leaked, every camping trip was another issue. Replaced suspension, stabilizers, tried fixing what we could, it wasn't even inspected by the dealer & no registration papers were with our info. Hitch RV in Boyertown, Pa was a joke! Everything Hitch pretended to fix with spray foam & black tape, was fixed so nasty! They had our RV for warranty work from September to March the next yr & ran out our warranty within 3 days to go! Contacted Riverside in Indiana, took the trip from *Pa to Lagrange, IN for repairs. Well we were there for a WK. They fixed the rig better then the day we purchased it! It was an extreme expense and the travel & time on us but we had no choice! No other dealer would touch it not being their sale! All & all it is great now! If anything goes wrong most likely trading it but I hope not! Good luck!

We researched for a long time when deciding to purchase our first RV, and we're both very thankful for you sharing your experience, its proven invaluable! We ended up getting a new 2022 Jayco Jay Feather Micro 171BH new from a dealer nearby. We actually looked at a similar model Ember while we were there, but it was a bit much for our first foray and didn't line up with our tow vehicle specs. We knew there would be issues, felt our expectations were realistic, but we still have that unnerving feeling that there is something wrong we haven't discovered yet. Seems like that is the new normal considering the declining quality trends the past few years. Despite this, we've been able to enjoy our trips and look forward to continue to make memories and learn how best to enjoy our camper. :)

I bought 2 brand new trailers in the last few years. I have a 2021 jayco x22b and a 2022 kz durango 5th wheel. We use both trailers frequently and have had zero problems. Both manufacturers are great quality. I would highly recommend them. Sad people have these problems. It's frustrating.

Whoa!!! Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV (formerly Haylett RV) utube videos HAD me convinced that Ember was the bee's knees!!! IF I still go with an Ember, it certainly WON'T be a slide model.

Solid advice, thank you. Good thing you have public visibility, I am betting that helped a little. They look like a neat trailer.

Good, rich, realistic content. Our 2004 30’ Airstream Classic required 6 typed pages of all the initial warranty issues. Airstream did not fix them all. Finally, we had to replace axles because of damage caused by lack of initial proper bearing grease, which eventually became a recall. You provide good lessons. Thanks.

My 2023 is amazing!! Not one issue.

I bought a used rpod 180 and the previous owner hid a bunch of mold and issues. Sold for major loss one month later. I will stick to my school bus conversion. It is so much sturdier and safer than an RV. I don't worry about leaks or things breaking constantly.

Wow! That stinks !! And you lost money on it ! Insult to injury! I’m sure glad I didn’t have to go back to the Casita factory! It’s 980 miles away. I actually hate to say !!😬After watching your video . I’ve had really no issues with my Casita ! Chalk it up to a learning experience I guess!🤷🏼‍♂️😬😁👍Thanks for sharing.

Anger, frustration, extreme disappointment, anxiety, etc.. That’s what I experienced when I purchased my Tiffin 24RT motorhome in January of this year. But I eventually calmed down because the manufacturer fixed my issues (after 2 trips) and the RV had the layout and chassis that I wanted along with outstanding features. 1) I too purchased a first year beta unit, 2) dealer did not have sufficient mfg support nor skills to fix, 3) I’m curious if an inspector would have found all issues because it took several nights of camping to identify them. Fortunately I have the time and skills (and some patience) to continue on my journey of making continuous improvements and resolving deficiencies. I am sorry that Ember let you down. It’s one thing if it was a $20k RV, but our frustration and anger amplifies when we pay a higher price expecting a better product.

I agree with you. My early production Ember had all those problems and I really had no dealer support. If it wasn't for the fact that I'm retired and fixed/improved everything were needed I would of be extremally unhappy for sure. I have learned a lot about RVs you could say. Cheers "Unofficial Ember RV Group"

All companies have issues and we have had 3 new RVs over the past 5 years (upgrading as our family has grown). I agree the dealer means everything! Our three Gulf Streams have had issues but our dealer has taken care of every one of them which is huge. No matter what RV you buy there will be issues! Sorry you had such a bad experience with Ember....good luck finding an RV that will keep your stress level down. I don't think that exists to be honest. RV doesn't stand for recreational vehicle, it stands for repair vehicle 👍

Man, I'm feeling fortunate, I wanted to purchase an Ember but my tow SUV couldn't handle the weight. I liked the suspension system so I opted to purchase the Ibex with the same suspension system. It's had a few minor issues, and the dealership solved all of them under warranty. Two trips later, it's been bulletproof. To be fair, we don't have a slide on our Ibex 19MBH. Other than that, it's been great. It seems that RV ownership is hit or miss, with extremes on both ends. I'm sorry this was your experience.

I hear your pain. Unfortunately, they are trying to copy the look of rugged Australian outback campers but using cheap US RV manufacturing processes. I believe the Black Series campers are the real deal, but also very expensive.

It's unfortunate that you have had these issues. My wife and I sold our 2021 Grey Wolf 19sm back to the dealership. We had problem after problem with it. The last straw was the bottom of the slide out dropping out. It was over a $2000 fix that wasn't covered under factory warranty, or extended warranty. We loved camping but I cannot bring myself to buying another unit. It just seems like every unit (no matter how it was made or how much you pay) are built extremely cheap and so many things are wrong coming from the factory. I was hoping Ember would have been different from the other companies out there, I guess I was wrong.

Hi from the Yoop. We bought a nucamp 400 and love it. So far so good.

I had an RV in 2008. The happiest day was when I sold it. It was a money pit on wheels.

Thanks for the info...I will not be buying an Ember RV after watching this video

I use your video to educate first time want to be Rv owners. Be realistic about RVing. And yes I have and still own a Rv. Which is stored indoors.

Sorry John, I remember when you posted the original time. Really horrible experience. I feel like my first two trailers have largely worked as expected. I originally got an R Pod and that's how I found your channel. Over a year ago I got a Flagstaff 25 BRDS. Aside from some minor issues, it's been wonderful. I hope your camping is getting back to being enjoyable!

Thank you for posting. More videos like this need to be posted. This is an industry-wide problem; and I don't think manufacturers will change their ways until customers force their hand.

Wow i had high hopes for this company. I had a similar situation with a brand new NuCamp Cirrus 720 truck camper. Cirrus campers have been around for awhile but the 720 was a new model and I feel like I got one of the first. Without listing everything lets just say it was in the shop way more than with me and a total nightmare. Finally had to let it go and bought a new Capri Camper from a company that has been around for a long time with their main model and all I can say is night and day. I have had this camper for one year and only one loose clamp on a water hose and porch light went out. I actually live in mine full time and couldn't be happier. When I get a new one I will go right back to same model. Hope all is working out for you.

It amazes me that the US RV market is still producing product like they were 50 years ago with no innovation for longevity. The Euro and Asian RV manufacturers are leaps and bounds ahead of the game and the best RV appliances being used in the US are from foreign manufacturers. RV dealers are all about the almighty dollar. It is rare to find a salesperson or employee who actually owns an RV or goes out camping.

For me John, the same time frame, same dealer problems and the same loss of valuable camping time, but with a different manufacturer. Over the next 8 months, between camping trips, I had the trailer at the dealership twice, the fist time for 6 was and the second time for 10 weeks. The major problem never got fixed. The factory was some help, taking care of some things that the dealer wouldn’t. Right now, I would burn my trailer to the ground before taking it back to that dealer. There is too much of this happening in the RV world today.

John, Thank you for sharing this video. You are a great man with great advice. Be well

I can top this experience but it would take to long to explain it. Here is a little bit of what happened. Our camper was sent back to the factory for a defect. While there and half torn apart to figure out a fix the RV company closed the doors and went out of business. We eventually bought the best camper we ever owned a Rockwood 2406ws. Never had a problem with that camper. All the others we purchased were a nightmare.

In our humble opinion things like this should be few and very far between. A bran new unit should be ready to go to a campground on day 1. Until consumers like us stand up and demand quality the RV Manufactures new and old will continue to produce junk.

Thanks for this. I can't fathom how a manufacturer could let something roll off its line like what is visible at 9:05. That wiring looks like it was done by just throwing a bundle of different wires in a hole and connecting things where ever. I would expect that scenario from a rig that is 10+ years old and has been modified by a hobbyist/DIYer, not a manufacturer.

I’m the underwater owner of a 2022 Ember. I’ve had to haul it back to their warranty dealer 3 hours away. Water poured out underneath the first time attempted use. Not only were the reps inept and giving incorrect advice Ember customer service strung me along saying they would arrange local service near Indianapolis. Ember blamed a local dealer for not calling them back. (My problem?) But I have spoken with executives of that local firm and they denied being contacted. The trailer has many great features but their customer service is

Getting me a custom made built up cargo trailer and converting that to my specifications!!

love your video. Most youtubers just tell the good stuff never the real deal.

I’ve always been a Jayco fan and I’m not saying you can’t get a lemon in the Jayco brand however I’m on my third Jayco travel trailer and with the exception of some minor odds and ends I could count on one hand I haven’t had any major problems. All the issues were minor and I repaired them myself. The one I own now is a 2022 and have not had any issues which sorta debunks the the dreaded pandemic theory. Do your research people and some hands on inspection of what you plan to buy. If you’re new to RVing and don’t know what to look for hire an experienced inspector and stay away from the new, cheaply made cheaper products. Rv’s are like every thing else, you get what you pay for. Never buy an rv new or used and give asking price there’s a lot of room for negotiation and price fluctuations.

I hope they get better. Their products are innovative. Ember 240TKR specially Will have to wait to buy one used 😅

After all that John, I would've kept it. Wow! Did you notice the common denominator? Friday's? Things usually don't go to plan on Fridays. I call them FU Friday's because that's what usually happens. Thanks for your video!

Glad we have a 2018 Anniversary R-Pod 195… built well, with only issues all travel trailers have.

We also have a Ember camper a 2023, we ordered it on April got it in May used it for. Two day took it for repairs just got it back Monday going to test it Thursday cross our fingers.

John, thanks for this update video. I remember well, the original video and the problems that you dealt with.

So for a first time camper buyer which is my best bet brand to purchase. New and used? Thanks for answers. Scott

Good info...thanks for the video. I wouldn't have waited for the license plate to camp......easy to explain if pulled over (been there done that). Your dealer sounds like a big part of the problem. They couldn't figure out a water pump issue? That's not an Ember thing...generic part, as you mentioned. The slide leak is a manufacturing problem, but sounds like they've figured it out. I was prepared for your video to really scare me away from Ember, but it didn't. But I've owned 4 campers (Class C, popup, and two travel trailers) and fixed everything at least once (including structural issues with the popup and one trailer). That's camper life.

Sure wish Josh the RV Nerd would see this. He works for Bish in Michigan. He raves about Ember and has really talked it up the best thing since sliced bread. It looked incredible but based on this video I wouldn’t touch one.

Just so sad! Glad you got things fixed. So disgusting these dealerships are so shady! Should be against the law!....good grief! 😢

Thank you, been seeing nothing but problems. Wanted to buy one. Thank you for confirming what have been watching. What a a shame. Sorry for your experience

Virtually all trailers are junk. This video has hopefully deterred others away from trailer RV life.

I'm really sorry to hear this. I thought they would be an impressive brand based on what I saw about them early on. I guess all of the manufacturers are having problems getting skilled people to work for them, and are probably turning units out too quickly.

We bought our IBEX new in 2021 and we have used it extensively without any issues thank goodness. The build quality is meh…but, not having to use the warranty is a win considering how low the material quality is in 95% of RV’s. Including mine.

Thankyou so much!!

Wow thanks for the information my partner fell in love with ember at the Tampa RV show and we were planning to purchase one at the next Tampa RVshow coming up. Looks like we’ll keep ours a bit longer, or go with the alto or in tech we looked at.

Wow, very sorry to hear about all your troubles John, and I'm sure it was painful to make that video. I have a 2020 rPod and just got done putting outriggers on it (another one of your great videos!). I talked to someone recently about problems with Airstream trailers..............so I'm not sure anyone is immune.

almost bought an ember, something didn't seem right with the camper when we worked the unit. glad we dodged that bullet

DAMN! a modern day horror story. probably built on a Friday or a Monday. the worst day's i have heard. Friday, they all want to go party. Monday, they're still hung over. great video, sorry you had a towable POC.

I don't understand why quality in the RV industry is so terrible! I did have to double check to see if Ember was also owned by Forest River. We had a number of problems with our "new" 2021 R-Pod 171 that we bought used in January 2021. Forest River wouldn't even transfer the warranty to us despite it never being used prior and still covered with plastic and still winterized from the factory. And of course, 4 months later, our front window spontaneously shattered and Forest River / R-Pod did nothing to help us. Can you imagine having these build quality issues on a new car?

I had an ember picked out I watched a guy talk about his ember being a nightmare on his first day owning it. Everything failed but the truma heater function. All other appliances and anything with a switch failed one at a time. I took the ember off my list and went back to shopping.😢

Well said John. Great video

You do these well John. I found myself constantly shaking my head at your misfortune. In the eighties there was a best seller called ‘In Search of Excellence’. If I remember correctly it’s mantra was ‘READY, FIRE, AIM”. This means the best run, and most successful, companies race to get their product out the door before it’s competitors and adjusts for quality control later. This philosophy is still rampant in todays highly competitive market. All these MBA’s know this stuff. And that’s why there are so many crappy products that might get a better redesign next year. The thing is the world understands that water will rot, mildew, breakdown and generally degrade organic materials. It’s known! And people hate things that leak! Why designers of new rvs don’t spec waterproofing and why build managers don’t enforce it is beyond me. I guess when customers will buy them faster than you can build them why bother. The Ember website still says ‘Building a Better Rv’ - I just checked. To be a successful entrepreneur ensure you employ a great marketing department that uses a bunch of superlatives that have zero basis in reality. Doesn’t work for me.

We stopped and sold our camper because of rude camp hosts at most campsites. Power hungry so called host or just extreme indifference. Moved to the country and camp at home now. Thanks, sorry for your experiences.

Sorry that this happened to you. Not all new campers are lemons. I bought my Winnebago Micro Minnie new and haven't had any problems in the 2 years that I have owned it. I guess I got a good one.

You got into a repair shop 3x in one month? Here in the northeast even in 2023 you would wait 3 months for 1 appointment.

Rockwood geo pro is a great choice

Hi John Thanks for another amazing video.

Hire a tech to go over the unit before delivery. I have sold Grand design , Heartland , Winnebago Forest river , Jayco and K-Z. The dealer is very imported even if you have to pay more. Most of the good ones I worked at went over the units and fixed issues. Quality is Ok on most but the Thor built Jaycos and all forest river units I would not even show customers. Just to many customers came back to me to help solve issues. I have owned personally Winnebago , Chinook and heartland. all had minor issues but were easily solved. Keep in mind I had techs go through the units as well.

this makes my next camper decision a lot easier. I think I will just stay in my off grid Jayco Jay Feather Micro

Agreed. i bought an Overkill trailer and the buying experience was horrible. Between the production delays and the design changes without consultation, it was a circus. Now they have taken money from new customers and closed up shop without delivering those trailers. Overkill Trailers now have some kind of manufacturing agreement with Xtreme RV in PA to make Overkill trailers. No way you'd get a trailer. It a great concept with the slide-out but horrible business model.

Sorry to hear all your troubles John. One positive takeaway from your videos - maybe your candid review (as well as others) will go to improve the poor quality these manufactures peddling to consumers for huge profits.

Is there a "lemon law" for RV trailers as there is for passenger cars and trucks? A reputable dealer would have immediately taken back your trailer and replaced it with a new one that had been inspected. I think it sent up red flags that they would even sell you the RV with the malfunctioning slide and give you one where all things worked right out the door. I am also surprised that in good faith, the manufacturer didn't take back the RV and give you either a refund or replacement. When I was younger, there was a man who has purchased a station wagon. There were so many problems with it after purchase, he put a sign in the rear window saying "I bought this lemon at this dealership" (name mentioned on sign.) He drove the car around town running errands. The sign got noticed on the roadways, in parking lots, etc. Eventually, word got back to the dealership. The next day, the man got a call from the dealership. I dealership took back the car and refunded the man's money. I would have done that prior to selling at a loss. Park outside the dealership or in front of the manufacturer's headquarters. As long as you are on public property, you'll be ok. Have the press tag along or call a local consumer reporter to do a story. That will often get you results as well. When I have an issue with a company that cannot be resolved, I email the CEO of the company. You usually get a phone call the next day offering a resolution. Most reputable companies offer a resolution and then go beyond with a little extra something for goodwill. This manufacturer should have given you a new RV and then maybe some free upgrades or a gift card for some free camping or accessories. I have never heard of Ember RV Trailers. However, after seeing this video, I would not buy one of them. I often think of buying an RV for some vacant land I own. However, I see so many horror stories about the quality that they seem like a waste of money. God Bless you, John. I can tell you are a good person. These days, good guys are hard to come by. Keep up the good work!

The same rule of thumb should be used when buying automobiles. NEVER buy the first year of a new model, even if it is from an established brand. Not every first year of a new model will be bad, but historically speaking, you are at higher odds to have more problems than normal.

So sorry you had to go through that. 😢

I just bought Nucamp after 1 year trying to find a reliable camper/manufacturer, and then wasn’t sure I wanted to risk buying rv with the entire industry ass backwards disaster quality control. Took the plunge and being comfortable with Nucamp quality and dealer who only sells Nucamp. Sorry for your irritating troubles

What a nightmare. I thought something must have gone wrong when you pulled the videos. Sorry this happened to you and especially that you took a loss. When we bought our 2018 R-Pod 179, five months in we noticed that the siding on the front just above the R-Pod decal was wavy. Also, there was some buckling on the siding by the slide out. We were told it was delam caused by bad glue. Luckily it was still under warranty, and the dealer arranged to have it transported back to the factory for repairs (from Colorado to Oregon). Long story short, they kept it for six months (October-April) and was such a stress ordeal w

Came across this late but power to the consumer!

I regret buying my 1st Class C, MBS Sunseeker by Forest River. I purchased the extended warranty, my only good purchase. Batteries, Solar panels, power entry step, Pioneer amplifier, system charge controller, side slide failed, generator and water leaks in shower/sink. All in the 1st year. Repeated returns for battery failure. Lithium and solar upgrades $8,000

Sounds like I'm better off with my tents and camping gear. And keep my Hard earned money. The outdoors should be enjoyed Not making someone upset. I put the tent up put up the cots my fridge sleeping bags and in 30 minutes I'm camping . When I'm ready to leave break it down put it in my truck and head home. Stress Free Lolo