Thank you both for such a clarifying, lucid, and pragmatic dialogue. This has supported my refinement process and articulated insights that have been gradually emerging into my conscious awareness. After years of craving non-existence and then awakening into fullness, I have an allergic reaction to the mis-teachings highlighted, particularly rhetoric on nothing being real or existence being an illusion.They're powerful pointers on the nuance of non-dual awakening, which for someone like me with a history of mental illness, is greatly appreciated 🙏🏻.