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In this video, I'm going to talk to you about the 3 main forms of Emergency Communications - GMRS , Ham Radio , and CB Radio ... in case of a "Grid Down" scenario. I also explain how GMRS & Ham radio repeaters work . Share this with friends and family , it might save a life .
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Комментарии : 48   
@luke8210
@luke8210 2 года назад
Cb and 2 meter are my go to radios. Put yourself up a 2 meter antenna that can hit repeaters. And a good base 11m cb antenna. I talk 30-50 miles with my cb daily. Without skip conditions. Last year several locals were able to save another who had a heart attack mid conversation on air. Cb can save lives and there is definitely a place for it in my shack and vehicles. As usual, great topic. 73
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
Cb and 2 meter are my go to radios as well Luke . For 2 meters I use a $20 2 meter J-Pole made of copper piping that can be bought at any hardware store . An Imax 2000 for my CB base antenna , and a G5RV wire antenna for HF . I have a ton of hills where I live , and I can still manage to talk 20-30 miles away just using my old 1970s RCA Co-Pilot and a Wilson 1000 antenna in the mobile .
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 2 года назад
@@RaccoonsRadioRanch I often ride my motorcycle way out into the AZ desert. I usually carry a 2 meter radio and portable J pole antenna with me. It's only 5 watts when run off the motorcycle battery, but there are usually repeaters I can hit from where I usually ride. In a serious emergency I also carry a SPOT device which sends an SOS directly to a satellite, including my GPS coordinates, so they will no where I am. GPS also makes possible satellite phones, which do not use ground based repeaters, but both the phones and service are VERY expensive.
@hansenhansen8349
@hansenhansen8349 2 года назад
I have been putting off getting my Ham Lisence. I think this would be most valuable piece of equipment.
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
I've had my Ham License since 2004 , and in 2007 I upgraded it to the General Class . I like having my ham license , and I use it quite a bit . I think that in most scenarios, repeaters are a valuable asset. But "If" a serious scenario occurs , I believe they'll be knocked out along with the cell phone towers and the internet. In my opinion , I believe that everyone should have at least 2 of these 3 forms of communication . I have CB for non-repeater related communications . And I have my Ham license for repeater related , and HF . If someone is interested in radio for emergency purposes , then I encourage them to get a Ham license . To be honest , since I have the Ham license and I talk on CB ... I won't be looking into GMRS anytime soon . I can already talk on 440mhz and use repeaters with my ham license . Anyway , I'm kind of rambling on , so Hansen ... go get your Ham license , I don't think you'll be disappointed at all if you do .
@Siskiyous6
@Siskiyous6 2 года назад
You should do it, it opens a whole new world. 10 Meters alone is worth it, with SSB and AM as well as FM it is available to holders of the tech license, and it is available with far more power than legal CB. FM is less of a distance champ than SSB.
@rEdf196
@rEdf196 2 года назад
I live on the Canadian west coast. in my opinion for those, on the east or west coasts, one good emergency radio communications option is VHF Marine between 156- 157.200 MHz. In my area there are thousands of boats being stored and on the water, many of them are equipped with Marine radios. I do have my own emergency 25 watt VHF Marine transceiver next to my CB radio base station. I do listen in regularly, but I do not talk on VHF Marine since there is also a license required for use.
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
That's an interesting fact that you brought up that I didn't consider , or even think of ... Marine radio . I've never used it , or even listened to one before . But I'm going to look into it and do some research now . Thanks for the heads up , and for watching the video .
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 2 года назад
If it's a serious emergency, you can expect all repeaters to be down or inoperative. And that means any radio service that depends on them will also not work. GMRS, and 2 meter/70 centimeter ham frequencies can be used for short range simplex communications, but unless you live on top of a mountain, it's going to be really short range. SSB CB can reach for thousands of miles under the right conditions, but it is not reliable. The problem I see with both AM and SSB CB is that so few people have CB radios. It's not like it was back in the '70s. It may be very difficult to contact someone within a few miles of you. The one exception being truckers. But unless you live near an interstate highway, they may be out of range if you are at home. IMO, the HF ham bands will provide the best long distance communications in an emergency. But also remember that the power is likely to be out at your home. I have both ham HF and shortwave capability, as well as a gas powered generator to power my radio equipment. I can transmit up to 200 watts on the ham HF bands. But I am somewhat limited by my antennas. Part of the problem with living in the city. If you get a generator for emergencies, get one that can run on LPG, like propane or butane. Those can be stored indefinitely. Gasoline, especially ethanol gas, has a very short lifespan, and will not last long in storage.
@jeffgrant1264
@jeffgrant1264 2 года назад
I would like to write a script suggestion for one of your videos concerning Emergency Radio Communication nets. It would cover basic radio station setup including a homemade antenna, how to operate in an actual emergency, basic radio-telephone procedure, how to pass messages to stations within the net, operational security, and setting up relay stations to increase the range of the net. I could write the script and make a shot list so you could produce the video in your excellent "Racoon" style. I hope you got my email on how I started my local emergency net. Since I sent it out, when I make a local contact, I mention the net day, time and channel. This has added a few more contacts to the net list. Keep up the good work my friend. Looking forward to your next video.
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
Jeff , I did get your e-mail ... and it looks like you know exactly what you're doing with your Emergency Net ... it's very well done . If you want to put a script together , go ahead ... and just e-mail it to me when you get it done . I'll check it out , and if I make it into a video , I'll credit you in the video for writing the script so people know .
@jeffgrant1264
@jeffgrant1264 2 года назад
@@RaccoonsRadioRanch Wilco. I'll put it together this week.
@akblair3862
@akblair3862 2 года назад
With GMRS allowing 50 watts , a decent antenna can get good range. But the handhelds are very limited. The “38” mile claim in the little radios is anything but true. Also MURS is a license FREE low power ( 2 watt) VHF radio. External antennas are legal and you can get 10 miles out of them.
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
I've had quite a few people try to convince me to get into GMRS .... but if you're a ham operator , which I am ... I'm a General Class ham operator , and I have been for almost 20 years now ... I don't see the sense in getting a GMRS license if you're already a ham , or you're planning on becoming a ham operator . That is because with a ham license , not only can you already talk on the 70cm band , which is where the GMRS frequencies are at ... but you also get a few other bands like 2 meters and 10 meters ... and at the same cost that the GMRS license is . So in my opinion , as a licensed Ham operator ... I think getting the GMRS as well ... is pointless . As for MURS , that's pretty low wattage .... it's should be goof for a short distance . But I've transmitted between 15 to 30 miles away with a 4 watt (AM) to 12 watt (SSB) CB radio , without using any amps or anything like that . Just a 1975 RCA Co-Pilot 14T302 and a Wilson 1000 antenna and an Astatic mic . That's a lot further than 10 miles , and I'm sure I could have got out further if I was up higher . But I was in a valley . So between my CB's and my Ham Radio's , I've got everything covered pretty good . Since I go from 1.8 mhz all the way up to 440 mhz (and higher) with no problem .
@michaelrocker9000
@michaelrocker9000 2 года назад
I tried GMRS when I moved from Maryland to NC. The package said up to 30 mile range. They worked fine2-4 miles away but anything over that wasn't happening. When traveling I prefer a CB Radio. Sure there is noise out there but if you're on an interstate or a major roadway all you need to do is ask and someone would get back to you and it's also helps keep you awake. Never played with 2 meter or 440. Back in 2005 during hurricane Katrina all sorts of communications were down but there was one source that stood out When Nextel had their PTT service they were also able to work as walkie talkies working as a private network. We all know where Nextel is now don't we. Also in an emergency with a CB you can also have someone who either lives on high ground or have someone driver to high ground and act as a relay. AKA 10-5
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
GMRS is on 440mhz ... so it is essentially 70cm . Only slightly worse because it is a little higher in frequency than 70cm is , and the higher the frequency is ... the shorter the distance is than it can be transmitted without the use of a repeater .
@michaelrocker9000
@michaelrocker9000 2 года назад
@@RaccoonsRadioRanch I have a FB friend who is a VE. He told me his group will be having a test in March and I may take him up on it.
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
@@michaelrocker9000 make sure when they run that test that they're not using repeaters , and both radios are using the same wattage . If they do that , they just might be surprised. Since GMRS radios are using FM , you might want to make the CB is one of the new FM ones too . You'll have to let me know how that test goes .
@michaelrocker9000
@michaelrocker9000 2 года назад
@@RaccoonsRadioRanch I was talking about getting my Teck ticket or maybe General depending on how well my old brain is working. I know they raised the fee on all levels
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
@@michaelrocker9000 I've gone as far as the General Class ticket / I've thought about getting the Amateur Extra license ... but I haven't done it yet . I don't think you'd regret getting your license . I enjoy hanging out , and talking on Ham radio too .
@bobhricko9892
@bobhricko9892 2 года назад
Ill stick with my cb radio for all friendly chat or emergency communications. No repeaters no line of sight deals to deal with. 12ny...
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
I agree 100% . I believe that in an emergency "Radio to Radio" communications are without a doubt , the **most dependable** form of communications that anyone can & should rely on , and with the proper radio AND antenna . A 27mhz signal will go a lot further than ANY form of 144mhz to 470mhz one will . And it will do it without the aid of a repeater ... and it doesn't require any licenses .
@bobhricko9892
@bobhricko9892 2 года назад
I talk 80 to 100 plus miles almost everyday on 11 meters. Northern Pennsylvania. All of New York. South eastern Canada. On a 5/8's ground plain. Am and Ssb. With no interference with my neighbors or cross channeling. 12ny...
@reggiebradshaw6819
@reggiebradshaw6819 2 года назад
Don't forget HF world wide communication.
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
Reggie , Your statement is 100% correct . I was implying HF when I said "Radio to Radio" communications . But I realized after the video was done that I should have said "HF Radio" rather than imply it . Thanks for the comment , and for watching the video .
@ThePacratz
@ThePacratz 2 года назад
I loved watching the video tonight and reading the comments from fellow radio users. I have a dedicated 10 meter radio along with 2 meter uhf/vhf. I guess I'll get my general license if life doesn't get in the way like it always does. Still sitting on the fence about GMRS though. KI4QMJ
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
I honestly think people brag way too much about GMRS . I've been a Ham for close to 20 years ... and if you try to go simplex on 70cm you need to practically be right next door to each other in order to hear each other . Without the use of repeaters your signal isn't going to get out very far ... especially in a mountainous area , or an area with a lot of concrete buildings constructed with steel girder's. They'll reject your signal , and kill your transmission every time . Anything that's true about 70cm is going to be true about GMRS as well ... plus a little more since it's a little higher in frequency than 70cm is . The higher you go in frequency , the shorter the distance will be that your radio can transmit ... Without a repeater.
@mikemiles3068
@mikemiles3068 2 года назад
Good video👍 When I checked earlier this month the FCC was still charging $70 for GMRS license even though they were authorized to reduce the fee to $35. Have they finally changed the fee? Thanks
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
No Mike , I don't believe they have yet . I foolishly didn't look into that before making the video . I just *assumed* that since it had been a year since that had been approved , they might have actually got it done by now . That's what I get for having faith in them doing their job in a timely fashion ... lol .
@mikemiles3068
@mikemiles3068 2 года назад
@@RaccoonsRadioRanch I had to renew my Amateur Radio licenses this year and was surprised that I didn’t have to pay $35, I decided that I would get my GRMS license this year but I am not going to pay $70, I will wait until they lower it. Keep up the good videos 73 KV5P
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
@@mikemiles3068 Thank you Mike
@cwilliams6884
@cwilliams6884 2 года назад
i got it yesterday and it was $35
@mikemiles3068
@mikemiles3068 2 года назад
@@cwilliams6884 THANKS 👍
@blazinSpike
@blazinSpike 2 года назад
What channels are on FM for cb and I'm setting up a backup communication with Soler power
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
Sorry this took me a little bit to answer ... I had to finish up a video ... and I also had to research the answer for you to make sure it was accurate , because not many people are talking about the FM frequencies in my area . Anyway Spike , this is what I've found for the channels that are being used for FM in the legal 1 - 40 CB frequencies so far . Ch 27 FM - USA FM CB Radio Working Channel Ch 29 FM - FM CB Radio Trucker Channel Ch 31 FM - USA FM CB calling channel This doesn't include the "Freeband" frequencies , and if anyone would like to add to this that would be great .
@blazinSpike
@blazinSpike 2 года назад
@@RaccoonsRadioRanch thanks for answering my question. I have one cb that has the FM on it
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
@@blazinSpike you're 100% welcome . I always try to answer questions for you guys .
@ecocitizen2010
@ecocitizen2010 2 года назад
Having a SSB CB and GMRS with license are critical emergency communications and you must have both radios. I like converting a high power 10 meter ham for CB and for GMRS a converted dual band ham. With the dual band ham you can have MURS, marine, business VHF, 2M, 70CM, GMRS, and business UHF but you need three antennas. Of course this is frowned upon by the FCC. Repeaters are closed for all traffic except emergency so use simplex and get to high ground. On FM you should be able to talk 50-150 miles antenna to antenna if you are high enough and have the power. WROH566
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
I have to disagree ... I don't think that having GMRS is necessary for someone that "already" has a Ham license , the ham radio equipment to go with it ... AND a CB radio . If you have both of those you've already got the best of both worlds . GMRS is just ANOTHER unnecessary $35 , or $70 fee for someone to pay out of their pocket . I'll stick with my CB and Ham radio , I've already got all the necessary equipment (and licenses) I'll need . Between the two I've already got more frequencies to use than I'll ever know what to do with .
@ecocitizen2010
@ecocitizen2010 2 года назад
@@RaccoonsRadioRanch Yes, with a ham license you have it covered and I need to get mine soon. The reasoning of GMRS is there are millions of the low power units in the hands of the general public as their only radio, like CB. The same cannot be said about ham. I can talk 57 miles to the repeater on my Yaesu HT at 3.4 watts, if I was parked on that mountain I should get the same result and range on simplex.
@bobdillashaw4360
@bobdillashaw4360 2 года назад
Have they finally made gmrs $35? I know it was approved, but seems it hasn’t gone through yet.
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
to be honest I didn't look that up ... I just foolishly assumed that it's been a year since they approved it , so it "should" be that price by now . If they haven't , then that's what I get for expecting them to get something done that would benefit people in a timely manner .... lol
@cwilliams6884
@cwilliams6884 2 года назад
just got it yesterday. it was $35
@Siskiyous6
@Siskiyous6 2 года назад
How about my 10 Meter Ham radio against a LEGAL CB? No comparison. This is the first video of yours where I think you overlooked a lot to come to your conclusion.
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
or left some out for a follow up video in the future 🤔
@ERICtheLATE
@ERICtheLATE 2 года назад
That is kindof missing the point tho. This is what is legally available as an alternative to smartphones or internet. Which is in the electronics section of Walmart? Galaxy S7 or Galaxy Twinturboechoallmode- tenmeterswingin' hotfinalexpress? Maybe a nice Uniden 505XL at best.
@RaccoonsRadioRanch
@RaccoonsRadioRanch 2 года назад
@@ERICtheLATE Walmart doesn't carry anything like Galaxy radios ... lol. That Uniden 505 will probably be the only radio anyone will find at Walmart ... and that radio is in my "5 Worst CB Radios To Buy" video ... lol
@ERICtheLATE
@ERICtheLATE 2 года назад
@@RaccoonsRadioRanch The 505 is all over the place and it is a good start. Your vid could help them dip more than a pinky toe in, and get a 29LX or 980SSB.
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