What did you guys think of the Em album? What did you think of Sean's new freestyle?? We're also available as an audio podcast on Apple & Spotify. Link in the description
Word is that the DOSS album is to be listened to BACKWARDS. It make waaaaaaaaayyyy more sense. Very Eminem to have the album order actually be backwards for the BIRTH OF SLIM SHADY. Nolifeshaq broke it down.
Eminem can rap and the beats are better…..he simply does not age well as a rapper I can listen to today. He has zero for me but that’s just me. I’ll never forget his 99-2001 run which for me he was snapping crazy on everything.
@@daliciously This album was it your fkn crazy but to each is own. This album brought so much nostalgia with his wordplay, cadences and bars were top notch all while telln a in depth story. I felt like a kid again with this shit. Absolutely loved the album im also 40 been listening to Em from day 1. This was classic Em
I really like Em's album. I've listened to it everyday since it was released. It's like listening to an audiobook or a movie. You can visualize the story as he raps each track. Front to back or back to front.
This is my favorite new pod. I love how you guys chop it up on hip hop for real and don’t make this about yourselves. It’s a great trio- messy Elliott, intellectual Jeremy, crunchy contrarian DJ Hed. Also I think DJ Hed is holding more info than what he lets on 😅
These guys give out the “classic” title excessively. Out of those guys, Kendrick is the only one who has 3-4 universally critically acclaimed albums that have stronger arguments for classic albums. Most of the other artists are singles driven.
I agree old school classic hip-hop albums were written by the artist or the group of artist. Take care was half of Weekend album the he gave to him it could be considered a classic Drake and Weekend album.
Facts Kendrick got 3 classic albums and a classic mixtape Drake got one classic and it isn’t even a mostly rap album nwts is a good album not a classic and if your reading this is good but not classic
@@MysticSoundsMusic apparently cause that’s an ahhh take wtf is he taking about. It makes me want to puke drake is not top 5 I don’t care how many hits he has
The album was really good, if you listen to it from front to back it’s like Em is killing Slim but back to front Slim is killing Em & some of the songs were good the features were good & I love Em is showing he doesn’t care about what critics think anymore or even the haters
Joe Budden and Akademiks are rightfully the top hiphop media commentators but this show is solidifying itself as far and away the best hiphop podcast of 2024
Lol in a top 5, having Drake over Kendrick, Nas, and Em is crazy talk. Personally Drake wouldn't even make my top 10 and that was before he got smoked by Kendrick
This episode was fun. I think Sean deserves a lot more respect on the mic and I’m excited for his album! The Kendrick x Sean history is interesting but I believe Sean if he says there’s no smoke left… now Ye on the other hand I feel like they will always be on and off lmao
He said he sent Ty$ a verse for a song on Vultures 2. If he has a problem with Ye, he needs to figure it out or drop it. Its the same thing Dot said on THP
Aye DJ Hed, as a native Detroiter, I promise you would wanna live there after spending a week or two there. Lol. I understand not wanting to, coming from Los Angeles, but go easy on us fam.😂
As a fellow LA native, I can say living in Detroit wouldn't be the move. EVER!!! The weather, the food, the women, and no beaches. Did I mention the weather?! Salute to the G's of Detroit!!!
@@pakONEoh You’re outta your fucking mind if you think Detroit doesn’t have the most beautiful women in existence, some of the greatest food on Earth, and the weather isn’t dope. It has all 4 seasons AND it has beaches and an island of its own. I’m pretty sure you’ve never even visited Detroit to know that judging by this dumb ass comment.🤣
... the women and food? I'm with you on weather and would throw in crime, but @pakONEoh, you really got the wrong idea. Detroit women are not for the weak, so maybe I'll concede there as well. But the food here is so underrated it's near criminal
when someone is too old to rap. think back in the 80's when rap was essentially brand new. we didn't have any old rap heads to say " oh they're too old to reap" because everyone was young and starting out. Even in the 90's we didn't hear about someone being too old to rap because everyone from the 80's were still young and in their prime. Take it to the 2000's, you still didn't hear about someone being too old to rap. it was brought up here and there in small discussions, but rap was still evolving. It was 2010 and beyond when we started hearing more people talk about how some artists may be too "old" to rap. this "too old to rap" is sort of a brand new thing to us. i hear about it more now than ever. i think it's a terrible argument that doesn't justify good music
In terms of being hit over the head about cancel culture on the Eminem album, I think most rappers' albums have redundant topics if you think about it. Like if you break down most albums half the album is just rapping about the lifestyle they enjoy, whether its getting money, spending money, having sex, being alpha etc. We just have a built in tolerance for certain topics being spammed over and over because its mood music and you don't have to use your brain for most of it. Em's album has songs that are very focused on particular topics, which isn't that different from what other artists do.
I keep saying that, like if you don't want to hear that type of shit eminem ain't for you, dont put those expectations on him, Em is gonna keep being Em, so that's what you're getting. Isn't no super mature conscious shit never was. Not to say it doesn't have that. He's still gonna be loyal to his craft and style, and people are surprised lol "he hasnt evolved". Nah he's authentic. We need more of that. Respect for keeping it real for so long as he has.
Elliott, Brother, please! LOL Kendrick BEEN ABOVE DRAKE as far as lyrics, culture and creativity. And also imo Drake doesn’t have a classic album! And when KDot said on MTG, “why believe you? You never gave us nothing to believe in!” I AGREE WITH HIM! 🙌🏽 😂 🤷🏽♀️
So I just spent the last week catching up on this podcast/show's episodes, and I must say the mesh of personalities is wild. I didn't think it would work with the old head from the east coast, the boy from Toronto, and DJ from SoCal. But you all not only seem to be genuine and comfortable with who you are but also respect each other enough to call BS when you hear it. That's dope and makes a great show because it just sounds like some friends having conversations about a subject matter they love without filters, just off the top. I do have some questions that will definitely get me some hate. Every time I hear you talk about Drake being one of the GOATs of Hip Hop because of his numbers and all the hits, isn't that just a qualification for being a good Pop artist? I won't pretend I don't dislike Drake. In fact the last song of his that I ever found catchy was Best I Ever Had which I know is crazy, but he was just kind of corny to me afterwards. I may just be mad because I blame him for making me miss out on great Big Sean records for so many years. That's on me though. I know I have work to do. I would still maintain that Drake is a Pop artist and not Hip Hop. This leads to my next question, how are you all defining Rap and Hip Hop? I have always thought of Hip Hop as the culture and Rap being of that culture. Two defining traits of Hip Hop culture to me are that it is both Black and American, so by extension Rap is as well. Tangentially, Rap/Hip Hop music to me is all about the beats and flows, the collaboration of DJ and MC, with lyrics that paint some sort of picture. It's the art of storytelling musically if you will. I bring this up because Eliott Wilson taking Donald Glover/Childish Gambino's Hip Hop card because he is "cosplaying" is crazy to me especially when Drake is not from the culture at all. Drake just makes music of it. Also he's rockin' loud but ain't sayin' nothin'. I swear this post wasn't meant to be full of Drake hate. DJ Hed spoke on artists from the West Coast that he'd have had in the Pop Out concert that were not from CA. Would it be possible to get some names dropped for those artists from Washington, Oregon, Nevada or wherever? I also think it would be really fascinating to listen to track 5 on ATCQ's Midnight Marauders or track 15 Mos Def/Yasiin Bey's Black on Both Sides as Jeremy Hecht. It must just be a bunch of dead air. hahaha, In all seriousness though, I think there is good intentions. But it just seems a little much to say I don't even think the word. It's in the same vein as "I don't see color." So I've been long winded enough. Keep up the good work. I look forward to watching Saturday mornings with a big bowl of Cap 'n Crunch.
Dope Flyana Boss shoutout! Also enjoyed the end segment with you guys just talking about yourselves with each other, genuinely loving and looking forward to each episode of TBP 🙏
54:47 I swear cuz it don't make sense! And I get it's his top 5 and music/art is subjective so I can't fault him for loving Drake, but how you gonna say Kendrick needs another classic to take your number 2 spot over Drake, yet in the very next breath acknowledge that he has more classics than Drake, and still rate Drake over K. Dot. His criteria makes no sense.
Ppl don’t put Big Sean in that tier bcs his biggest songs that we remember from the early 2000s are super dumbed down lyrically. He moved away from that but he hasn’t created any big moments for himself since those times, and he tends to take big hiatuses which he can’t afford
I don't agree with what Elliot said. Just because Cole chose peace doesn't kick him out of the top spot. I believe Cole is still better than Drake. I mean based on his past body of work, we know Cole can obliterate anyone. Even if he doesn't win, he will definitely leave a scar, and Hed, u don't need to apologize to Sean because when he messaged u, he knew u were gonna do exactly what u did, so y are u saying "My bad!" By the way, I just love how Dj Hed just listens with a big smirk.😏😅
YO, ELLIOT IS ANNOYING!! The interruptions and diversions from the main topic all the time makes it hard to listen to. Someone will be making a point and he HAS to insert a joke, interrupt to ask another question or insert a tidbit or do a random shout out. STOP INTERRUPTING!! Also he’s too gitty. It seems like he’s too happy to be getting attention.
Pray that Jeremy can keep the streak going before DJ Hed catches him slipping and gets him canceled lmao Another awesome pod can’t wait for the next one! 🔥
@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842 I think what alot of Em fans need to realize, is though he is a beyond gifted artist and wordsmith, hip hop fans are judging him under hip hop criteria. I could be wrong but alot of Em fans are not hip hop fans and theres nothing wrong with. I went to an eminem show once in high school and as a hip hop fan, i dont think i had anything in common with the other people that show
Actually he was saying the opposite, that the first 10 tracks weren’t necessary and the album should have just been GC2 and the songs that followed…which is crazy
Bruh DJ Hed by this time next year maybe too big for this show....and low-key Jeremy might be too....those two are exceptional media personalities. And Rapsody applying pressure on Hed is hilarious....when she grabbed his hands, I was like...Oh Shit 👀
I 100% agree with Jeremy’s take on the Em album and comparing it to Dave Chappelle. Just makes them both feel stubborn and stuck at a wall when they could just address it, ideally show growth and introspection, and be done w the topic. We don’t need 10 songs about it in a row, edit! 💀
Saying Childish Gambino was crazy after he dropped a dope album. He's more than Hip-Hop. He's a combination of all black music (Hip-Hop, Jazz, Funk & R&B). Don't compare to pop Drake😅
Big Sean knew what he was doing with those bars man , come on! We are fresh off this massive beef, he’s got past issues with Kendrick. Big Sean is not stupid. He knew how that whole thing was going to be perceived man. For him to act “surprised” is crazy.
As time goes I start to question Elliott hip hop IQ. This dude said Big Sean has 2 classics and Drake has 3 classics. He’s handing out classics to these rappers like they do candies to kids on Halloween. Big Sean has no decent album. Drake has maybe one classic which is a weekend album. Cole has no classic. Dot has at least 3 classics
I don’t think Drake has a Genre classic. Take Care was only loved by Drake fans. You can acknowledge a classic album without necessarily being a fan of the artist or album. If Take Care is a classic, by that metric, Silverside Up by Nickelback because it sold a lot.
@@user-vy8zg4de7fwrong a lot of non Drake Stans really like take care and nothing was the same. They may not be traditional rap classics but that lane they are, people call 808s a classic that’s not a rap album
