Emongg Reacts to Overwatch 2 TikToks that make a good point 

Dude, I was the guy talking about learning Tracer and improving my Ana because of it. Thanks for your kind words, and for shouting me out. It has had a direct impact on my community and I’m beyond thankful. See you in the ranked games soon, Emon. ❤️

People forget to mention that overwatch had weekly hero bans and it wasn't perceived well in ow1

I was expecting the Mauga ult to have a lifeweaver pull someone out of it

the audio balancing kinda fricked up at the end

Instead of a jetpack, sigma just gotta fly on will

Lmaooo the orange shirt and flats pose in the thumbnail 😂😂

Ana" phara, do you have a spare jet pack?" Phara" idk... Do you have that jet pack money?"

I don’t think they should introduce hero bans, but him saying that metal ranks will ban characters that get value for just existing is a solid argument *for* hero bans.

In qp, you have a rare chance for sombra to constant hack you as tank. Only the tank. Not even your vulnerable teammate

A banning strategy that’s an option is what I saw in Omega Strikers. You declare your ban when you choose a role It randomly bans one of the picks as you load into the game, 1 per team. Idk how they’d do it with 5 picks but it’s an option.

My favorite thing to do to mauga is hog ult in his ult really a I'm not trapped in here with you your trapped in here with me moment

The biggest issue with Hero bans, comes down to the game not having enough heros for this to be an issue. Example, 3 bans per team, seems reasonable. What if each team bans only supports, as of posting there are 10 supports total. Imagine a game where your only support options are Lucio, Moira, Mercy and Zen. There are also 12 tanks in the game, really limiting what people could potentially play. In League of Legends, we used to have 3 bans done by one person on the team, who would always ban who counters their champion in lower ranks, causing a massive differential in team play just in selection. Now we have 5 per team, and each player does 1. We cant do that in Over Watch because we "COULD" ban all supports. The only way to implement a system like that for overwatch as it is now and be 'fair' is if each person can ban 1 hero from their role. So there would be 2 tank bans, 4 DPS and 4 support. Matchmaking would be slowed down greatly by this since the lobby would take a few minutes to do, given we give 30 seconds a player, thats three minutes extra to ANY GAME. Maybe you could que prebanning a character? Maybe, but what happens if two people que prebanning a specific hero, does the hero get double banned, or do they just not que into each other? If they cant que into each other, is that exploitable at high ranks where ques are much tighter. Overwatch needs to have about 15 heros for each role before banning could even be thought of a possibility, and needs to see if any potential added time from it is worth it.

not the orange shirt and the face expression lmfao

He did it

About the bating part with ana i totally agree, i usually baiting kiriko using her suzu with sleep and nade right after or just sleep her + 1 shot she will use suzu right after that.

Cant wait to watch another Emongg video!

I'm a Mystery Heroes player but a support main when I play role queue. Learning more heroes helps you a ton

For Top 500 players, I already recognize their player icon and player banner…

ah yes. because zen famously has mobility.

Can the editors remix the audio on this? I could almost hear emongg talking after 25:00

Mauga is just a giant cc target 🤠

Love the video but about 25:30 the music becomes so loud I can’t hear the TikTok or emongg 🥺

I'm kinda sick of that one guy complaining about LW. One of those times he was at around 1/5th of his health pool and he only got pulled back maybe 10 feet so he was behind a wall. You weren't going to do anything special there anyways, once you landed you would've had the same view approximately that you did after grip, there was nothing to eat. Also - if that guy thinks tank players don't have a voice he's not listening to anybody else talking. Everybody says those type of things (except the mobility thing since that's not a good idea).

re: off healer and main healer: that is not the categorization!!! it's main support and flex support, and it's not about healing output, its about the utility that defines the comp. brig, zen, mercy, lucio are all main supports because their utility and playstyle generally defines the comp -- flex supports like ana, moira, and bap, while having better synergy with some comps than others, are generally more interchangeable with each other -- in a brawl comp, you could switch any of them out for the other and have it be mostly fine, but losing the lucio speed on the rein is devastating to the comp the naming scheme is super counterintuitive but it's what the entire scrim scene uses

That last one pretty accurate.

dont mind me just not knowing about the brig passive for a log time

Oh my. I need to see a video of ana with pharah's jetpack.. 21:55 Actually sounds potentially tricky or OP to be using a sniper with a scope..

I would say as a support player that in plat its for the most part a combination of a support and tank issue. As said a lot of support will not swap of their moira or mercy. But the tanks are not used to face other supports like a zen or ana and gets absolutely shredded. Dps players in plat are adorable, they most likely got their never expecting heals, i see them run for health packd thr moment they take 10% damage. And they get so happy if you decide to pocket them. Edit: the tanks are also not used to playing with an ana or zen. Many times has my super mobile tank on winston doom or dva flown of the spawn door and is fighting the enemy team on their side of the spawn, dies and wonder why my ana that is still running from spawn did not heal them.

The Sombra guy was absolutely correct , I was hope that would be fixed by the rework but they think that Hack is her core ability, imo hack should be an ult thing only like she has on EMP, Sombra is a very poorly designed character that is awful to play against, all she does is remove fun from the game by not letting you play, this type of abilities like hack should never be on such a short CD.

Don't use the duck zen skin, all you need to do is wait to see the orb pop up at the top of your screen, this means all 5 orbs are charged.

I’m sorry, Hog has mobility? What? Does moving other heroes count or something? 😂

OMG OMHG OMG NO NO NO BEARD ... BBB (BRING BACK BEARD)

Everyday it just gets harder

25:50 WHAT I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING!?

I wish I had the Zen duck skin 😢

The thing with the hero bands would be that is they made either a) a real streamer mode or b) did bans before you were shown teams, is would be good to counter op heroes (like mauga the last few weeks or release brig) and would switch up the meta because meta heroes could be banned. Also if it was a vote that would be the best option so its not one person, as well as making it be banned on both teams.

i dont want hero bans but i also think devs shouldnt do or dont do something based on player behaviour, one tricks throwing shouldnt be a factor into hero bans

For the hero ban thing, isn't the discussion just basically the loading screen/ hero selection screen before the match in Paladins? How will implementing this be hard if it already exists and they know people know it exists?

its kind of funny because tiktokers at the beginning wereall basically us at the start of ow1, with terrible memes and bad takes, but nowadays their memes have become funny to us because they have slowl learned the game and now better understand it.

3:20 THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

hes gotta react to apex dabi

I dont want hero bans because they will do it like when they did it in ow1 where we don't get a choice and we had a week with 0 phara counters

29:00 i see where he is coming from, but i disagree. where we are at, there are numerous hard counters, and some heroes shut off others, but i don't know if the solution is reducing diversity. it might be better for balance, but it's less fun overall. for example, doomfist is a hero that is fun _because_ of how different he is. it's really hard to tune him to be anything but dive. same case with, for example, sigma. the variety of different tanks is the main reason i like the role. edit: upon further reflection, i actually think it could work if you make some small changes. i think their goal should be to make heroes strong in 2 of the 3 different comps. for example, make d.va a brawl/dive character (more than she is right now) and make sigma a poke brawl character (somehow). that way the 2 tanks have more counterplay between each other and more room to be played.

19:23 "Well I know what to do to perform well against their pick but I don't wanna do it. Blizzard please make it so I can play any character the way I want and still win." Literally saying "I don't want to." like a kid that's ordered to do chores is the worst reason you could give

if hero bans existed id ban tracer 100% of the time

13:50 all i got out of it was that he said he shouldnt of played tracer, everyone was blaming for playing tracer... and then he swapped and they won XD that about right?

So all in all we just need to nerf genji to fix ranked. Sounds about right.

i doubt they'll bring in hero bans

Alright SO

emongg look at siege hero ban system The entirem team gets to vote on who u ban. each team gets 2 ban picks 4 bans in total. if u hide the names of the players and limit the bans to 2 per role it solves pretty much every issue Have the ban system happen before u see the map aswell and meta hero bans for certain maps is avoided aswell. I personally think a ban system impl,emented properly will solve alot of issues and give the devs alot of valuable information

couldnt they just have you ban the heroes before each que and have baning one of each role then one extra hero across all roles that way noeone knows who they play against nor the map? this is just an idea not what i think is the solution

I'm not going go lie I just troll games and throw unless I'm with someone and then I try. I stop trying because I could be doing well and get flamed or could not even be the issue and still get flamed. why not be the problem at least then someone who's doing well won't get flamed and I get to not care if I'm being raged at.

Now if they did do hero bans, would the bans apply to both teams or dies each team ban hero's for the other team? I feel like it has to be both

I don't care if they do it in quick play, let us test hero bans so that we can actually see how it feels.

"drop suggestions for baiting in the comments"

give ana blink

in regards for hero bans, I think the best option ( if they want to introduce such mechanic ) would be to randomly ban heroes. no input - just completely RNG, for x amount of time. This way at the very least its fair. some "bans" might be good for a meta, some might be bad - but thats what RNG is :D

Flats lite

Dota2 they will ban the preferred choice of the other teama intentionally

i want hero bans to bea personal thing whenyou can pick players you prefer and not prefer to make thepools those characters and not others

Keeping my comments respectful

this isn't flats

That guy was preaching. I'm a flexgod OW player. My profile is a literal rainbow and there's so many things you start looking out for in different roles. In OW1, the first characters I played were Rein, Reaper, and Junkrat.. I now unconsciously know when these characters have ults purely based on how the person playing them. I have not miscalled a shatter in 2 years for example and usually within 3-5 seconds it happens after I say it.

Damn all these clips are so old. Would better if these hadn't already been watched to death by other streamers.

The main support off support is just are they burst or not lol if you calling it "healer" leave, mfs think thats all they suppose to do cause of you people 😂

yo

pookie

You should only be able to see the name of the player after the game ends so there’s no toxic ban counters. Or bullies

the looping meta in shorts and tiktoks are so cringe I'm glad I got to hear u say "and that's why" "and this is why" before I stop listening to you.

I agree, sombra ruins the game

Yes please don’t do hero pick/bans and a draft lobby. Definitely don’t do that. It’s not like every other successful moba does that. Ow kids are just dumb as hell. Being able to swap champs all match is the reason this game is so dog wash in a 5v5 setting.

firstish

Homogenizing tank heroes into the same cookie cutter mold is a horrible opinion because then you completely lose the individuality that makes the heroes of overwatch special.

the guy talking about supports being to strong and counter swapping tanks shoudl make an effort to have an original idea for a video instead of spewing what everyone else is

People complaining about “mobility creep” in overwatch is so funny. Like they needed a problem to whine about so they target arguably one of the most fun parts of any game… also, every time someone mentions going back to 6v6 I can’t help but to roll my eyes and skip until they stop talking about it. The 6v6 conversation is played out and irrelevant because it’s never going to happen.

If they copied seige 1:1 on their ban system it would be fine. If you need to play a very specific way or you lose then you didnt deserve to win anyway. The one tricking argument only works for people that have a brand centered around them playing that specific hero. If youre an average andy that just plays the game, learn more heroes.

I dont understand... they dont want people to counter swap? Their the ones who made the heros with their abilites that directly counter eachother right? Countering and certain people shutting down other ones is literally the whole game. I dont get it. Is it just because people whine about getting counter picked? They understand they can counter too right? Or swap to a character who breaks that counter cycle?

You and flats should have more of a backbone. This game is 🗑 and you support it unwaveringly