My thoughts on an article written about why this person believes the LOWEST PAID people in the medical field (EMTs and paramedics) don't deserve more pay.
I love when people use the argument against a $15 minimum wage by saying "oh, so a burger-flipper should make as much as an EMT?" Fuck no, a burger-flipper should make enough to maintain their life. An EMT should make WAY THE FUCK MORE than $15/hr.
1) Minimum wage speed runs inflation which hurts everyone and will ultimately end with burger flippers being automated out of a job. 2) EMT's should absolutely make more than $15/hr.
@@tbonbrad 1) That’s Horseshit because min wage was literally created to be the min someone needed to survive. Inflation has been happening regardless and the average buying power of a min wage worker has dropped even though when you raise min wages those people invest that money right back into the economy by spending it. Stop blaming people surviving on bread crumbs while those up top take the whole cake As for automation if you honestly thought stagnating min wage workers into poverty would stop that then I have a bridge to sell you.
just make minimum wage $100 hr, and see what happens. You have no idea how economics work. OR maybe stop flipping burgers, get a real job, and move out of your parents house. I did it at 18.
@@kevinspacey5325 If min wage kept up with inflation it would be 26$ an hour. Why is it reasonable to expect employees to be unable to live yet support your business working full time? The suggestion that people are just lazy and should just get better jobs is preposterously stupid of you. First off many min wage jobs aren’t lazy. Second there simply aren’t and never will be enough jobs for everyone to “just get better jobs”, min wage jobs make up a vast portion of the labor market and their spots are necessary for society to function. If your buisiness requires someone to labour full time then they should be compensated enough to have shelter over their head and food in their belly full time and if you the employer are incapable of providing the literal bare minimum for survival then you aren’t qualified to run a business. Exploitation of people simply because you don’t view their position as skilled enough is not okay, and if you truly don’t value another persons basic survival needs enough to fill your spot then do it yourself.
@@DarkBunnyLord funny, when that 15 an hour hit here in cali, my production shop laid off a bunch of low paid employees and replaced them with autofeed machines. I saw it first hand. I sat there and laughed knowing most of those workers voted for that. You can't cheat economics. Again, this age old theory still beats any argument you morons have. . . . Make min wage $100 an hour. But wait I hear you shouting "that's too much" . . . .Why? Because your feelings tell you that? In the end, I would just be making 3X that pay and everything would skyrocket in price putting us all back at square one with massive inflation. Think before you open your mouth.
As a volunteer firefighter I dont even get paid. I also dont do it so I can go home and look in the mirror and be proud. I do it to protect and serve the community (ok ok, i'm joking, I do it because its fun to drive around in a big red truck with flashing lights and air horns...)
Hey, wait a minute. Back in the day they told us driving the big red truck, making lots of noise with the siren and having all those lights WAS the pay. Man do I miss those days.
After 15 years as a FF/EMT, I finally made the leap to an EMT instructor. I'm am going to shamelessly steal this speech as my day one intro to my class. Sorry brother, but I promise to give you credit and require that my students sub to your channel. Stay safe, stay proud brothers and sisters!
@@jayffemt Come on, let's be real here. Just like when your loved ones rushes to show you videos off their phone; half of the people won't pay attention especially coming from a stranger lolol.
You need to add a lot more to his speech as it does not address the real issue of the idiots taking all your money. The ones who can't do it themselves and they expect you to do it for then while they get paid way more than you do. That is the grand conspiracy that is going on im the world. We spend all of our time and energy supporting idiots instead of helping each other because we are so frustrated from serving the idiots instead of the people. The idiots need humiliation and way more of it. We need to stop allowing them them be glorified and use every opportunity we can to bring them down a notch as their idea of themselves is completely imaginary and so is their authority. They need to come to that realization or none of this gets better as none of us can make enough money until the idiots realize they have enough and if they want more they have to participate just like everyone else.
Angry Cops would probably give some good ol' banter because FDC is a firefighter. Would love to see FDC comment about his firetruck and the crack house.
It’s insane that for a job which is considered essential by so many, it’s almost become standard to work 60-80 hours a week for so many just to get by. These people aren’t living extravagant lives or dealing with a crippling shopping addiction or something, they’re just trying to support a moderate quality of life for a family of four. It’s absurd.
Can confirm. Pay $700 a month for tuition debts yet barely survive on 86 hour weeks. But yeah apparently saving for retirement makes me a bad guy. God forbid I buy a home, have a dependable vehicle to get to work or transport my family, or god forbid I take a vacation to wash away the nightly flashbacks and the faces of kid who bled out in my arms. Apparently to some that’s selfish, even in this comment section. I suppose not everyone looks in the mirror
@Imgladandrew gillumisnotmykang386 If I were you, I wouldn't call someone who holds dying children and scrapes dead bodies off the ground a "drama queen" when they complain about pay, lest they show up to your house one night and only provide 9$ an hour worth of aid.
@Imgladandrew gillumisnotmykang386 The only thing more disgusting than a troll is a jealous troll. Its super obvious you have envy. No amount of anger is going to satiate it. But keep trying, its a really good look for you.
I made the opposite move and was fortunate to land at a Dept that pays decent. Hopefully you're keeping the dream alive. Is your channel name binary? DVNT?
Amen brother. My wife (firefighter and paramedic for 19+ years) is my hero. She works an incredible amount of hours, days, holidays, weekends and OT. While she misses all that time away from our family, she helps so many other families continue to share and grow their time together. The ignorance in that article, coupled with the purposeful stupidity is overwhelming.
People in my town are currently complaining all over Facebook that the town fire station decided that they can't do Santa this year because of Covid. Every year they carry santa around on the firetruck to all the neighborhoods. It was a volunteer thing to begin with but we don't see any of the complainers jumping to volunteer to do it 😐 I feel for you guys. I am very appreciative that all emergency workers do 💕
I hate idiots like this that think that they are the center of the universe and that what they say is the right thing. Like if you start dying and the Medics show is the dude who wrote this article gonna be like you didn’t save my life it was the medicine” Thank you for what you do Jason, keep on going strong
I hate people that judge people only from there perspective. I met those people everyday, in real life and on internet, and it's even annoying when they are judging someone other.
People like that often live in a dream world where anything will either be someone else's fault and they'll still bitch and moan, or they'll completely flip and write some hypocrisy about how they always think these people deserved more...
Hey man all jokes aside, I really appreciate you using your platform to advocate for Fire/EMS services. People outside of emergency services don’t understand the ass kicking we get most shifts and articles like this are just a slap in the face to the paramedic running on 2 hours of sleep remembering his cardiac arrest protocol word for word as him and his crew work to save your family members life. None of us asking for a 8 figure salary but a survivable wage would save a lot of us from working 2-3 jobs. Thanks for being a voice.
I absolutely agree. As someone who is not in any of these services, this channel has been so educational. I am a firm believer that those who do these sorts of thing deserve, at the very minimum, enough to make a living and free therapy sessions. I can't imagine the mental stress of it all
Yeah it's really rich for a WRITER to talk like this. I'm a career linguist and writer, but anyone with that kind of safe, comfortable job has a right to rag on people doing essential jobs, much less difficult and hards ones like EMS and emergency care.
“That’s like saying a mechanic doesn’t repair vehicles because he didn’t invent the wrench.” 02:14 What a genius, deep thought! (And they’re picking on your level of education?? See if they feel the same way if they’re on the stretcher in need of some life saving...) Thanks for the laughs as always 😊
Medics, doctors, nurses take responsibility for a human life. They have to learn a lot of basics, gain knowledge and train to gain confidence to react properly in very stressful situations. I'm working as an engineer in healthcare facilities for 16 years and I already provided first aid on the street a lot of times. Most of the times I was the only one taking actions or leading the others because the others only had a 16 hours first aid crash course years ago (when making the drivers license) and didn't feel confident enough to put their hands on the patient.
I work with many mechanics and this analogy is better than you thought. There are boards and certifications to work on different parts of the cars. A M1 can only do fluid changes, an M3 that until radios, and M5 can do full mechanical repairs. It’s a multi year process to become fully certified.
Do you mean the "Ambulance Driver"? I actually heard someone say this to my Paramedic daughter. She (barely) controlled the urge to strangle the person.
You can blame some of that on Emergency. Where the Paramedics on the show drove the Squad and then the Ambulance would show up later with the guys in white. Randolph Mantooth said in an interview that for years Paramedics did not want to drive the bigger box shaped combined Paramedic and ambulance rig because it made them look like Ambulance drivers. People expected the Paramedics to show up in Squad 51, not an Ambulance.
@@johnharris6655 I don't care what shape or color the vehicle is as long as they're showing up to save my life or the life of my loved ones or just anyone really: stranger, criminal, saint. Doesn't matter; just save them
TiltingT Pinball - As Albert Einstein once said: "There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe."
I went through firefighter training and when I got to the EMT portion the instructor told us quite frankly what working on an ambulance would be like and what we'd get paid. I was done right there. EMS really are heroic. There's no profession I respect more. They definitely deserve a lot more money.
Oh boy Jason has dropped most the comedy and gone straight to screaming at us about how amazing his brothers and sisters are in EMS, and I am 100% here for it. Go off bro.
Everything he said is true. Be prepared for little to no sleep depending on the shifts you work. I'm pulling a 24 right now and expect no sleep. But just remember that you can change someone's life. Good luck and remember if you can't fix it in the back of the ambulance, drive faster.
Some serious motivation. Thank you for standing up for us, we get treated like garbage- yet when PD or self transport the odds are always bad outcome. Yet, we are worthless to the world. Thanks for having our backs, we’re family all together.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 remind those people who wrote the article when they are on your stretcher that you can’t promise them any more than 9 dollars an hour can produce due to your minimal education!!
Tell them that due to their belief that Paramedics and EMT's don't deserve a pay raise, they also themselves don't believe in an even more advanced level of care, but will do so anyway. Bang them into the back of the wagon, pat your hands on the doors and tell the driver "remember, go 10 less than the speed limit to ensure a comfortable ride! for our patient".
@@carabiner7999 unfortunately he still stands behind that. He believes that drs are making hospitals $$$ by useing ems for non emergency transportation Also he believes that not all who call need an ambulance. He might be right in that. But who is he to decide that !
@@LiztasticGames Why was she not built for EMS, we were given no other details other than she left because she wasn't paid enough. If I leave my $1 and hour job to go to a higher paying one am I "nOt A gO gEtTeR"
Liz what the ? i work full time as an emt making very little and living in a metropolitan area. i BARELY make enough money to pay my bills (working at least 10 hours of overtime a week) and i have not been able to save a single dollar since i started this job. i love my job, but have thought about leaving just to be able to live without the fear that if an emergency happens, it won’t devastate me and leave me unable to pay my rent.
This is so true. I worked as an EMT for 4 years and had to work two 48 hr shifts a week just to barely pay my bills, and I lived with family rent free and borrowed my dad's car to get to work. I didn't even have time for my own life because I spent all my time helping others for minimal pay. Best job I ever had, I just wish I was able to live off of the wages. Now I work in construction management and make more than twice as much money, and it didn't require any specialized training, education, or certification like becoming an EMT did.
You worked 100 hours a week, didn’t pay rent and you could barely survive on that? That doesn’t make sense. The pay isn’t great but it’s not that bad. If you did 100 hours a week you’d be making good money.
My slogan right now is “40 years Strong” because I have had 40 years of low pay as a Paramedic...as a Fire Paramedic for the last 4 years low pay remains the theme...FFs tell me they get paid for what they can do, not what they do...I love the fire service and we all should remember that we are all brothers and sisters taking care of the community, lets be nice to volunteers, too! Please!
Well, maybe not....depends on lots of things...and the circumstances...I am not the expert...just know my personal experiences with pay...I believe most paramedics and firefighters would agree that placing oneself in harms way is different from other jobs...from the flu, COVID, TB, Hep B, HIV, pneumonia, colds, the list goes on...and if you have been doing this long enough hurt/assaulted by people you are trying to help... No debate on pay, as I said taking care of the community is why I continue as a career paramedic and a volunteer firefighter-paramedic
Be safe, and in solidarity organize your labor. Y'all are literal lifesavers, and i thank you and those who work beside you in the chain that keeps us alive when everything else goes wrong. ~♡
EMS is one hard feild to work in. Ptsd, infections, injury's, and even death are only some of the things that can happen while working. The amount of ceus we have to take is plenty for education. This fool who wrote this will cry for mercy when the ambulance "goes to the wrong address" when he calls.
I absolutely LOVE that last part! So true. My sister called me up the other day with a medical question, then got into the family message board we have going and said, "I called up Red yesterday and asked for medical advice - that's pretty cool." Gave me all the warm fuzzies seeing that!
I work for the National Park Service. The intrinsic value of my job keeps me from getting up in the morning and throwing it away and doing something else. Keep the faith EMS, you're saving lives and sending people home to their loved ones. You're doing God's work and everyone, everywhere owes you a great big hug.
I work 48’s and repair 2 departments apparatus just to keep the house paid and the lights on. I don’t do it for the hero mentality, I do it because I love it, and care about the people we protect, the brothers and sisters that ride the trucks. I am a firefighter, and a brother. I make 9.75 an hour, and am thankful for it. It is the best they can do so I can do what I love.
@Fire Department Chronicles. Thanks Jason. You can inform in a entertaining manner and really get the point across. Your jobs aren't easy as that writer thinks. Lots of people think they can do someone else's job like EMS, paramedic, firefighter, or law enforcement. That's until they get a small taste like when reporters or local officials try it. The honest ones will tell everyone it ain't easy. Be careful out there. Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
A lil late but I just saw this. It's unfortunate that more people haven't seen it. I had to leave EMS because of the stress to pay ratio was too extreme. Now, I make twice as much simply sterilizing machines in a factory. I feel that this is backwards. I needed a lot more training for EMS and yet here we are.
Im no firefighter/emt/paramedic, but i am currently studying safety and security management (i dont know if you have that too, but im dutch), and i could not agree more with what you just said. In my opinion its very, very bad to skimp out on indispensable services like the fd and pd. Also counts for military
It’s not just a opinion but honestly common sense, but there are places in the US that are cutting the budget of the FD or not paying their EMS a wage worth a damn compared to almost any other reasonable job. It’s usually the worst of people trying to “balance the budget” but as soon as a new tax comes around or time to increase the tax amount, they are all for it..
I work in a healthcare setting and fire EMT paramedics also jump in to help us when dealing with patients on bad trips or losing their shit, they don't have to but they do. Imo they put up with a lot of bullshit no one sees or hears and the little things help out.
The EMS Payscale: Being able to py for Insurance, Cost of Living\Keeping a roof over your head or being able to put food on the table. You may choose any 2.
Dude you fucking rock. Paramedics/EMTs are so grossly undervalued. You go on thinking you're a hero, because most of us sure as hell think you are too. Respect.
I wish you understood how much your videos mean to me. I've been a firefighter for a little over 3 years now and man does it get to me. You are a legend man, please never stop the encouragement. Gods given you a gift for it!
My little brother was sad one day when he was like 6 or 7. I asked him what was wrong, and he told me that he learned that superpowers aren’t real so superheroes aren’t real. So I told him that superheroes are real. They’re called EMT’s and Firefighters. And anyone can become one
When I was an EMT, volunteer firefighter, and volunteer SAR making minimum wage it was definitely hard making ends meet. On the bright side I was able to pull a few extra shifts as a ski patroller which allowed me to add a second minimum wage job to the mix and work seven days a week.
Hell yeah I was for a private, county, hospital, and city ems for a total of 12 years. I had to leave the job I love due to not being able to provide for my family the rent and food on the table because of inflation. I sadly went back for more schooling and had to trade my sydascope for a wrench and become an airframe and powerplant mechanic all because of not being able to live on the pay anymore.
The one and only time I met EMS was when I was just a bystander. We had called the cops bc a fight broke out in our neighborhood, late at night, and there were a couple of women fighting too and one of them was very pregnant. The cops and ems were impressive, bc they were polite, professional, and exactly the ideal of what you want to come out to help when you’re scared and you don’t know what to do. Just bc our first responders are human and live life just like us, doesn’t mean we can’t continue to hold them up high where they belong. If they fall down, put ‘em right back up there. That’s where they go. Put them up there. And the pregnant woman was taken care of, bc ems got there with the cops.
Most of us understand ( I hope ). All of you deserve respect and higher pay. God bless ❤️🙏🏻❤️. Ps F the haters they probs failed the NREMT exam and are salty
Jason, can you put a link to the article you're referencing please. Your point about higher educational standards is right on. I earn my BS in Fire Administration four years ago and I'm still waiting on my compensation for it.
Thank you for making these videos. It truly shows how much you care for all our Brothers and Sisters in Fire and EMS. Your videos mean a lot to us. Keep up the strong work.
Absolutely spot on! My son is an EMT and I am beyond proud of the work he does and lives he saves! What boggles my mind is how little he actually makes. Oh- and hey, California! You know who actually deserves AT LEAST $20/hour... the first responders out there saving lives!
I’ve had my EMT cert for almost 2 years and have only had ride alongs and ER shifts. I got a job after school to pay the bills until I could get a job with a company i liked and then boom....job I hated wound up paying more than what the medics in my state would have made. It’s some BS ems doesn’t make more
To all who are EMT, EMS, FF, PD, and all essential worker's.....truly I say this....." I Thank You!!! " And I got your back's in prayer and appreciation!!!🇺🇸🦋 And Jason thank you for your video's! I know I am not the only one who could be saying this....your video's have gotten me through some real tough moment's! Your service to the people is wonderful and much appreciated!....truly🇺🇸🦋
I have been a CNA for 20 years. I can tell you neither fire fighters or EMS get paid nearly enough. We see a lot but nothing compared to any of them!!!! Thank you for your service! Without all of you we would not be able to do our jobs either!
I'm a police/fire dispatcher and call taker. Today I took domestic violence callers and had to give a hysterical mother medical instructions on how to start treating a choking 1 yr old. The classification for my job? Clerical staff. Absolutely not important to the chain at all. Totally understand being underpaid and underappreciated.
I’ve watched your channel for a couple of years and always, always enjoyed every episode. As a career firefighter for 27 years and an engineer/ paramedic in my department for the last 15, you hit me right in the feelers. You’re so right, I would rent a plane to pick you up and bring you down to talk to our administration, plus the private companies as well. God bless you Jason.
A friend of mine just passed his EMT exam and is trying to become a firefighter. He’s been doing voluntary work at the station for a couple of years now and has told me and my family all about the things that firefighters have to go through, and long story short, it’s not as easy or lazy of a job as it’s made out to be. I think EMT definitely deserves more pay. I’m looking to become a Game Warden myself but have always been interested in the career of a firefighter. YALL ALWAYS HAVE MY SUPPORT!!!
Most people arguing for a raised minimum wages are also arguing for higher wages for EMS. We all deserve to be able to afford to live regardless of our jobs. Prices for everything have gone up, but salaries haven't followed suit. This article was 100% written by the same kind of person saying things like "nobody should be fighting for fair pay for their labour" and that "if people are unhappy should just move to higher paid STEM fields". Talking poorly on fast food employees does nothing for us. We all deserve to be paid enough to survive and are in that fight for those wages together.
Allyonia my only concern for for what you just spent all of the typing that you just did is. If the minimum wage goes to $15 dollars an hour is. Where does that extra money come from. What about small business’. I love the idea of everyone earning more money an hour but what will happen is that prices WILL rise to pay for the extra money that they are paying.
@Evil Mofo And they're automatically black why? You say they've never had a job yet it takes 1 brain cell to figure out that writing for a journalism company is a job.
Hey man always love your stuff. I have been an EMT/Paramedic for a collective 4 yrs now. In my short career I have seen how no matter what great protocols your assigned without great EMT/Paramedics being able to manage chaos, properly evaluate pts, and then determine/preform proper protocol and procedures members of our communities would suffer if not lose their life. The Men and Women with boots on the ground are absolutely life savers. Keep them videos coming!
Much respect to all the first responders. Just like my brothers and I shoulder to shoulder enduring the suck while bullets are whizzing by, or explosions tossing 2 1/2 ton and 5 ton vehicles like rag dolls, or the pink mist of what use to be a comrade you just ate breakfast with that has just repainted the wall in front of you.People who say first responders are not hero’s really need to grow a pair and put on a uniform.
I live in bumfrick NY and yesterday there was a head-on between a motor bike and a sedan (dodge avenger if you wanna know) and I love first responders. So when they brought two helicopters in and they landed in our schools parking lot I went to watch (I wasn't getting in their way, don't worry I was in the grass that was a little was away from the ambulance crews and other first responders). But just watching the 1st chopper leave after the second one lands really makes you think about what rescue personnel or first responders have to go through to get where they are. Most people think a helicopter landing is badass (cos it is), but its amazing to think that once they take off you think to yourself "They are gonna save a life" just really makes me (a 15 yr old) inspired to become a first responder. It's just amazing to be in the presence of life-saving workers and see them not panic in that moment, but rather watch them assess the situation and take that person knowing that they are injured and that there is a chance of death. I know that in their heads it's completely different than how they look on the outside. But it just astonishes me to see them do what they worked so hard for.
You're the bomb, I love your videos because they are funny, but I also love to see you stick up for the guys that are holding the world together. It's refreshing
Yes they are because now with all the bs riots going on if I wear my thin red line patch people will call you a racist without even knowing what those patches actually mean because all the idiot's hijacking our flags for other reasons
I am not in any medical related fields, but it’s my belief that the only people who should be rewarded with too much money, are people who save lives, and especially people who risk their own for others
When I joined the Infantry and got back from training I was told by many high school acquaintances to drop my "hero" sense. I told them to drop the drug head "whoa man we're all brothers here I'm going to rob my neighbor for their percocets sense". Damn fine day.
I cannot speak for other areas... But in northeastern Pennsylvania where I currently live. The current starting wage for an EMT basic is 8.75 an hour which is the minimum wage by the way. Paramedics average 10 dollars per hour. That's just the starting wage. 10 years later, The EMT basic is usually up around $12 an hour, and the paramedic is usually around 15 dollars per hour. And most of us have to work multiple EMS jobs to make ends meet.
Thank you but didn’t we all learn this in elementary school. I love your videos because it reminds people what NOT to do. EMS and firefighters are my superheroes and are always kind and caring when I have an emergency and I’m a nervous wreck. Thank you for your work and skills.
Two thumbs up!! Certainly appreciate your standpoint from my private EMS point of view, and as always love your colorful analogies! Gonna make it a point to become addicted to FIre Department Coffee!! I get a real charge from all your content bro, thank you!!
A daughter here of an EMT/ paramedic. (30 year careers) I find your channel hilarious!! My parents did lots of volunteering in our small town departments. They both had “ paid” jobs too. They were both amazing at their jobs. Right before my mom had to quit (health reasons) she got certified for the crew for Eldora speedway. ( car racing) That and careflight were her dreams. I say all that to say that the job doesn’t stop when they get home. My dad has PTSD and watching people die for 30 years is hard on you and the family. Some calls don’t go away. My mom’s friend never recovered after responding to a car fire. First responders will understand why without me going into details. Please talk about mental health and first responders. I hope there is more awareness and support now.
I've been a career firefighter for 34 years. I've watched as many of my colleagues have died from rare forms of cancer, had lifelong illnesses and injuries and sadly, taken their own lives due to the demons that visited their dreams and have memories of experiences that people should ever have to see but still believe I have the best job in the world. We never joined the job thinking it would make any of us rich and knew that we would miss holidays with family, special occasions and probably lose the art of being able to sleep soundly ever again, but the looks on the faces of the people whose houses we managed to save, the people we cut out of car wrecks in one piece and the families of patients who were lucky enough to have our crews provide medical intervention and survive to live another day..... all makes it worthwhile. At the station with our other "families", we joke, mercilessly rib each other and generally have a laugh between the endless calls - that's icing on the cake. Only other firefighters (and other emergency response crews) understand that it is a job of incredible highs and despairing lows, but we support and care for not only the general public, but each other.... and that comradery is humbling.
Heroes. A hero is a paramedic who spends 30+ min compassionately convincing a homeless girl, on so much meth she's picked half her face off, into an ambulance instead of calling police after 5 min. Witnessed that today.
