@@alia5615 buddy Canes, Islanders, Jackets, Stars, Avalanche, and Habs have all had insanely successful seasons without winning the cup, this is a FAILURE for the leafs
Dubas is amazing, the guy puts the blame on himself when he acquired Tavares AND Muzzin for us. And to say that it was his fault for the PK... thats the difference between him and Babcock.
You guys realize that he is paid to take the fault if they ask him to. ...whether he means it only he knows. He is a very well articulated man....so part of his skill is to BS if he has to. Actions speak louder than words
@Shawnaldo75 "u lying liar" LOOOL. Yes he did. Go listen to what he said, he didn't directly say it but he didn't take any of the blame. He simply talked about how his players did not come through, in particular, Nylander.
But he's not being honest is he? It's not his fault Kadri did what he did. It's not his fault the coaches played the wrong players. He's barely been the GM for a couple of years, how is much of this his fault? He's just publicly taking responsibility to take the heat off Babs and players. But make no mistake, behind closed doors reality will be spoken. Personally I'm not a fan of this...it's just a bunch of theater. I'm not sure the alternative, public drama, is the answer either but I'd prefer they would rather say nothing than lie the other way. Just say "we're not happy, we'll have internal discussions, we all made mistakes, we'll go forward trying to fix this". This BS I take responsibility for everything stuff from Dubas is just trying to make everyone around him that failed him feel guilty and at the same time impress his boss Shanny. Can't stand that kinda crap.
@@TheChimples agreed. I think it's actually him taking the easy way out by just saying "It's my fault for xyz." rather than speaking honestly about Bab's coaching, nylander's effort, and kadri's suspension. He's not actually saying anything. He words don't have any teeth.
have some patience Leafs Nation ..... it wasn't too long ago this team finished dead last .... takes time to build a winner (See Washington Capitals) these are good hockey people ...... Shanny, Dubby, Babs ...... give them some love ...... don't believe all the media ..... they just have jobs to do
Sammy So many people had been listening to too many you tube videos, Arm chair quarter backs. Honestly we all wanted the Leafs to win the Cup. This is a process, they are talented, listening to nutty people they have the coach fired, the manager fired trade all the players. This is all nonsense talk. Leafs need to be patient and build a winner for the long term first making the playoffs
So right!! I don’t believe Dubas will make a rash decision because of the outcome of game 7. Stay the course, good thing will happen. Bab’s motto is so real, just gotta buy into it
@@rugheadedporchmonkey Thanks for the insightful comment. Really thoughtful, reasoned, and productive. Will be sure to forward your thoughts on to others. Everyone needs to know. This guy has got the answers.
I know it sucks, but the truth is not so bad. The Leafs lost a 7 game series against a more experienced team who had more points than them in the regular season, with Kadri out.
DA S the leafs will be good in the next couple of years. Boston has a lot of players that have played with each other for a long time and have great chemistry. Toronto will get there soon.
Yeah, it's not like Toronto was the odds on favorite team to win. Two seasons in a row, Toronto took an overall better team to game 7. While Toronto has issues and holes. they're still on the right track.
@@chrishuber8930 - Wait, what? Toronto was the better team? Hmmm. . . I wonder how come game 7 was in Boston then. Something aint right, eh? And I wonder how come Columbus went to Boston for Game 1 instead of Toronto. . . Yeah somethings just not right here!
@@keepingitreel...8037 Toronto was the better team 5v5 all the metrics prove it. Toronto had a bad month in March they should have had 120 points minimum. The difference was special teams. Boston scored on their power plays because Toronto stood around. Their coaching is the biggest issue. Bottom line.
Youre right, youre not the only one. The good news is, its not up to you or any other fan what happens with the maple leafs management. It is very easy to think you have the answers from the sidelines. Have faith.
gardnier is fuckin SHIT, i dont dislike many playes but he is one of them. He lacks all type of consistency he has no physical force in the corners. he is not reliable. what was he -3 this season in game seven and then -5 last year. Idk why babs trusts this guy. Id rather throw a third line guy on the ice instead of gardnier
The other options are Holl, or Ozighanov. Gardiner is twice the player either one of them are. As Babs said, Gardiner was injured and he was still the best available option. This d-core is only gonna get worse unless they can move a couple bad contracts in the offseason. aka zaitsev & marleau. Sandin & Liljegrin look promising but they need some more time to develop
@@3cs3hs This was only his first season as an NHL GM. But to answer your question, yes, he will undoubtedly take responsibility for any missed tee times, and all lost golf balls.
We have definitely taken steps forward - next year is the 4th year of a 5 year plan. If Dubas does a good job over the summer we will get there. We need a good stay at home defenceman, 2 physical forwards and another 1st string goalie that can battle for top spot or share duties with Anderson. If we get those elements we can truly contend. GO Leafs GO!!!
Jesus Christ. Dubie taking all the blame. I don't really agree with all the decisions this guy has made (overpaying both Melander & Matthews), but damn, you gotta respect him for falling on the sword. Keep learning, keep building, keep getting better. Go! Leafs! Go!
Dubas has my utmost respect. Even when the Coach somewhat messed up the line matching in the last 3 games versus Boston, Mr. Dubas takes ownership of the coaches mistakes.
Man i love his honesty and his composure under pressure it makes time leafs i know it hurts losing to boston but wait till next year boys we are just on the endge of breaking threw
WE ARE FINE LEAFS NATION! Our core is one of the best in the game, our future is still amazingly bright! Yes we lost a good chance in the playoffs with Tampa, Pens, and Washington out but we still have a young core learning and being built by one of the best management teams in the NHL. Our D is the most important concern and I hope they address that either in the offseason or trade deadline. I think our coaching is fine, they made blunders in the PO's but I hope they are aware and correct the issues. Such as line minutes for top money guys and player usage in later moments in game. Like I said, we are fine. Adversity can only make winning sweeter!. We will be in the PO'S next year with a better, stronger, smarter team.
Was listening to Sirius XM radio yesterday - NHL channel 91...Guys were talking about how it's been 'rumored' that Shanny, and Co have more, or less given Dubas the green light to fire Babcock, or to keep him onboard - it's up to Dubas...I say it's 60/40 (60% chance he's fired - 40% he stays for another season).
Kadri is an excellent player.....you should be thanking him for bringing attention to the way that game was called....making the following games better
Kadri was selfish , he is just as responsible for loosing the series as the rest of the team. Trade him and bring in a right handed D , he will bring a great return.
The way Dubas and Babcock praise Gardiner and Nylander, you'd swear they were actually their player agents. Little wonder why the Leafs are in big cap trouble.
What REALLY bothers me about Kyle is his answer around 4:30 mark. Game 7 is not just another game.You can learn a ton and i mean a ton about your players and their capabilities in a high pressure situation.You should never ever take that lightly.They made that mistake last year.No way Jake Gardiner should have been here this playoffs.Not after last years game 7 and certainly not after being booed by his own crowd.He is damaged goods.He handles the puck like a grenade.So afraid to make a mistake .Same goes for William Nylander.No chance he should be here next playoffs after that performance this series and especailly game 7. Learn from this its crucial.Kyle your words are empty and meaningless.You want to take responsibility than do whater it takes to fix your mess.You fucked up by telling Nylander that he has a long term future here.He doesnt have a no trade clause.Let Jake walk and Trade Nylander for a bloody defencman.Its not rocket science.
Johnsson - Tavares - Ennis Marner - Matthews - Kapanen Nylander - Kadri - Hyman Brown - Marleau- Moore Or with Kadri suspended: Johnsson - Tavares - Ennis Marner - Matthews - Kapanen Brown - Nylander - Hyman Gautier- Marleau- Moore And based on performance guys can move up or down. I know most of you think it’s crazy putting Ennis on the top line but he and Tavares have chemistry that few know. Like the game 7 goal for example.
To me dubas has done a great job getting tavares and muzzin, problem is that he caved and signed nylander, any player that holds out for money that long is clearly not committed to winning on this team, should have traded him, or make him sit all season, it sucks cause a guy like marner should have been signed before nylander, marner is someone you know wants to win and will do what it takes to do it, marner should have been rewarded with a contract before nylander was, marner disserves whatever his asking for, to me his the leafs best player and as crazy as it may sound he should be captain
Hindsight is a beautiful thing. This guy made some great moves (JT, Muzzin) but also some bad ones (Sparks, Willy), I’m curious to see what he does this summer but some change is definitely needed. Please look for some help on defence and fix the PP/PK.
Bring in a coaching staff that can run special teams, make dynamic adjustments and actually plays their best players. Boston limited Backes' to 4-5 minutes yet Leafs are rolling Marleau all game? lmao. Leafs would still be in the playoffs if we had competent coaching.
The leafs are developing into a great team. A few years ago we had the worst team in the league. Give it time. How many teams have rebuild without success. I’m sure they will improve next year. At least we aren’t cheering for those Montreal Canadians lol.
Dubas falling on the sword multiple times is honorable, but I'd like him to call out some guys that deserved it. Kadri, and Babcock for example. It's easy for Kadri to be contrite in retrospect, but I wonder how sorry he would've been if he was playing in round two? He's a liability now and Dubas is too smart to actually glaze over that fact.
Dubas knows it. In case you haven't noticed he is a very polished speaker. He has admitted to his mistakes and has taken ownership for that. He understands what its going to take to build a winning team. He is a smart man. Have faith people. Not less than 4 years ago the leafs finished last. They hadn't made the playoffs in over 10 years. I know that leaf nation wants to see a cup.... in due time. Believe ...
@@JUMBOpin weak... you kidding. He should be respected for how he held his interview today. Took ownership. Don't you think they know the strengths and weaknesses of their players. He doesn't want to criticize them in public. Leaf fans do enough of that.
It's a young team building chemistry lots of new players and lines i'm glad the Leafs finished the season without injuries that's good enough for me ! Defence is an obvious problem and will be addressed in the next couple years Leaf fans should of had a clue when they traded the best backup goalie in the NHL . Marner is great but i believe he will take a little less money and make far more in the future with endorsements .
Dubas is taking ownership for things that aren't even his fault. The PK was poorly coached, we had some really good PKers and couldn't get it done.That seems like bad strategy, and it certainly isn't the GMs fault, unless you think he should have hired someone else.
It took the NYR 53 years to win the cup in 1994 and 2020 will be year 53 for Maple Leafs but the Rangers went out and made amazing trades to win cup that year, can't see Leafs making a team changing deal at 2020 trade deadline to put them over the top
They’re really close! Lots of depth to this team! They finally have a core to build around! Make some tweaks over the Summer. Lots of scoring power and speed up and down the ice! Great goaltending! Just need to add some grit and size and they’ll be a force to be reckoned with! A couple more years and they’ll be in the finals!
I'm not Leafs fan, but I'm a Kyle Dubas (he's from my hometown), and fans need to understand that this is a process to build this team to the point where they'll be contending every year. Dubas made mistakes his first year running the Soo Greyhounds and no doubt he'll learn from the Nylander contract situation. That guy is not the player that they think is. Good on Kyle for stepping up and accepting responsibility. He just needs to add some grit to that team. Josh Leivo could've been a factor in the playoffs, if he had stayed.
I love all the Matthews Fanboys. Watch the tape of all of his shifts. The reason that he and Babcock don't get along is that Matthews just doesn't play hard shift after shift and game after game. He lacks serious compete far too often during games. For example....the first Boston goal in game 7. He is immensely talented and the frustrating part is that he doesn't combine that talent with a desire to compete every game and every shift. It's not about playing time. It's about compete and effort.
Dubas~if you think Bobacock is a good coach you should be fired too. Babs did nUthing this year. He was shocked as much as everyone that the Leafs showed such offensive talent, but he did nUthing with it. A whole year of nUthingness with no defensive system.
Happy we have Dubas instead of Bergy who always threw everyone else except himself under the bus. Fail better each time, learn from it, eventually will lead to success, G.L.G.
Gotta love that he brings up junior level hockey achievements to compensate for a big failure in the big dance. You panicked with Nylander. A guy with balls would have made him sit the year and focus on the major parts first. Anyone holding the club ransom needs to be left in Europe watching t.v. for a season. You panicked and now this will come to hurt us. Get rid of that poisonous contract and move on.
Woah. This is the most arm chair gms ive seen in my life. Are we on hockey db forums? Enjoy the game, vote with your dollars and do your best. This makes a larger difference to your city than telling professional hockey management what moves they should and shouldn't do. 1 day later and im already jacked for next year. Its cup or bust and its better to see our flaws now then San Jose ing or Nashville ing it... We have tavares and mattehews for years :o
@Hockey2323 I haven't compared Eichel and Marner stats. My guess is the ceiling is higher for Marn, I just don't think Leafs can afford to pay him market rate...
When you are at the highest level of the food chain, it's too easy to take all the blame because no one can challenge you on it. How can he blame himself for the PK when he added Muzzin, a defensive Dman that didn't performed up to his expectations. The players are to blame, period.
William Nylander had 54 regular season games to get into game shape. To free up money for their young depth, I wouldn't mind the leafs trading him for some prospects or defensive toughness. They already have other young players who look just as capable/promising (Kapanen and Johansson).
If he keeps Babchoke around, this team will keep losing in the first round of the playoffs every year guaranteed. Every year Babchoke stays is another year wasted of the primes of these great young players. They've already wasted a three year window with all of their young core on entry level contracts. They can ill afford to waste anymore with the crusty old red headed con man behind the bench. He hasn't won a playoff round since 2013. The last 10 times he's been in the playoffs, he's 1-9 in the first round. Of the 6 times he's had 100+ point teams, 2 of them didn't make it out of round 2 and 4 of them lost in the first round. Nuff said
@@ronbonora7872 That was 11 years ago. Other than coaching all star Team Canada teams that anyone can win a gold medal with, he's done jack squat in the NHL since.
The Club is more exciting and fun to watch than anytime Since Sundin era. From the absolute gutter to this past season has been such a fun trip. Hasn't been a waste of time. It's progress. Think how Tampa feels. Yikes.
He needs to demand - not ask - more of Villiam Nylander next season. That means Melander needs to be hitting the gym everyday and running hills. Melander needs to be on 24 hr Leaf Watch by management because I don't trust that lazy little prick to do anything over the summer on his own.
That Boston series the leafs choked in the final two games but I thought even through that they outplayed them for more of the series than Boston did to them. Everyone has their opinions but gardiner is gone and I think hainsey might be as well. Rosen is ready and despite his age I think Sandin might have a good shot at cracking the lineup. Sub those two guys in the lineup and you have lots more cap space. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Kadri and Nylander if he doesnt start off strong next season. Bracco is another marlie that could easily be subbed into the lineup next year. Marleau's contract is pretty heavy as well for what he brings. Nothing against Marleau. Love what he does for the team but at 6 million a year in a tight cap team theres not much room for a contract like that. It'll be interesting to see what happens this offseason and if Dubas has the balls to pull off some necessary moves.
Dubas is very articulate and also he just showed he open-minded he is. He just something that Is extremely essential to the overall Maple leafs as a whole. He compliment Nazism Kadri. Its a two way street. The Maple leafs management must help Kadri as well.
@@JK-xy9vb From Toronto actually. I just know Andersen, Rielly, Marner and Nylander are all VERY close friends with Matthews. Now throw Kapanen in there he is the center of the team.
Remember this press conference and about how he accepts all responsibility. Then later this offseason have a look at the roster.The only major change this offseason will be the coach. Maybe Connor brown is moved to aleviate cap pressure.Asides that, this roster will be near identaical.Mark my words.Its only then you’ll see he is all talk.
Yes Nylander is and was you're fault!! If you watched him in the playoffs last year - you could clearly see he was not a $7million dollar man but you signed him anyway. This guy might turn out to be the biggest blunder in your short NHL career. BS we have given Jake every opportunity possible - It's time to go Jake MOVE ON! Other than the Nylander signing I applaud the job you are doing Mr. Dubas.
Thats all going to come down to Marner, if he leaves it up to his Father and Agent to decide Marner will not be a leaf next year because the leafs wont pay what his Father and Agent think hes worth which means he will be offer sheeted and leafs get 4 1st round picks for him if he takes one of the offer sheets and leaves. If he makes the decision he wants to be a leaf and is willing to sign for what he should be worth comparable to other contracts of 9.5-10 Max then he will be back, but its anyone's guess
Prob is they scout & sign the same type of players because of a lack of skill in the organization before. Now they don't block shots, hit and can't fight their way out of a paper bag.
They did alright blocking shots in the regular season with 3 guys in the top 40 league wide but they didn't do it as much in the playoffs, but the hitting and physicality wasn't a problem. They out-hit Boston with 35.6 hits-per-game(249 total) to Boston's 33.1(232 total). That's against Boston, one of the biggest and most physical teams in the league. It was the special teams that killed them, especially the PK. Postseason rankings after the first round - PP Goals: Boston 3rd(7) - Toronto 10th(3) PP %: Boston 2nd(43.8%) - Toronto 10th(18.8%) PK %: Boston 7th(81.3%) - Toronto 15th(56.3%) Only Tampa Bay had a worse PK% than Toronto through the first round. Special teams killed the Leafs, and some players floating around when they needed to play hard and some bad coaching at key times.
Charming guy, unfortunately he had the team regress while overpaying RFAs. He has to trade Johnsson and probably nylander for players that are already locked in to decent contracts. Because he has no ability to get guys signed for a reasonable number.
Hi Kyle you should have learned from last year your defence has a big problem why not try to get it fixed and if you keep going on the same way I believe the same thing will happen again fix the defence now.
Notice when Kadri was sent off Andersen came over and gave him a pat? Does the rest of the squad support him? My guess is yes! No need to fell bad there buddy
2:40 Kyle's raised eyebrows when being asked if he can trust Kadri moving forward tells me Kadri won't be here next year. And sadly, as much as I've always liked Kadri, I believe it's time to let him go to another organization where perhaps he can find a better fit where he won't feel he has to be the enforcer (of sorts). I think Brown moving out and having Enzo take his spot would also be beneficial (they both have good drive but Enzo has more talent - however, I don't know if they will be able to afford it). Well, that's my armchair critique for the season end. See ya'll next season (if I'm still interested after 50+ years of the same ol' same ol' (with the exception of a few seasons)).
