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Ender 3 Silent Fan Upgrade (Upgraded Pro Vs Stock V2) 

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Previously I upgraded my Ender 3 Pro with a silent stepper board. Now the fans are the loudest components, so they are the next to be changed out.
The sound and temperature measurements I took are very approximate. I included them for reference.
The total cost of my printer including all the upgrades is about $310. The 3D Printer is now about as loud as a desktop computer.
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@chaicracker
@chaicracker 3 года назад
Fanless yes!!!
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Ok I'll order the parts... I've got it all planned out...
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I've done 2 fanless builds now. The Ender 3 version was super fun to build, film, and edit. It's my favorite printer now! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uqCntWdLIvA.html
@mynameismynameis666
@mynameismynameis666 2 года назад
this is one of the most violent modding videos i have ever seen. so much aluminum scissoring, i cried out in pain...
@medyk3D
@medyk3D 3 года назад
The difference is huge. Great video. 3 Noctuas are about $50 but you need to buy four so you can elevate the printer on the boxes :)
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
You may be sad to hear that I have replaced the fan boxes with real feet.
@medyk3D
@medyk3D 3 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots Shame!
@MR_G92
@MR_G92 2 года назад
As a fairly experienced gaming computer builder, doubling up fans doesn't work as well as people would think, and the difference it makes is very very minor. The only time a 2 fan configuration works well is when you have a push fan on a cooling radiator with a pull fan the other end
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 2 года назад
Good point. Maybe it would have worked if I had a duct around the heatsink with a fan on both ends of it.
@MR_G92
@MR_G92 2 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots everything's trial and error, and I think you did a great job! I have an ender 3 v2, I have the upgraded metal drive section currently and the yellow springs, looking at getting a BLtouch or the creality version for it next, which one would you recommend??
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 2 года назад
@@MR_G92 whichever is cheaper! I have tried both and the seem to work the same.
@FaTeDev_com
@FaTeDev_com Год назад
Not just that but the one on the PSU is off and if you place a fan on there powerful enough to spin the RPM too high you could feedback to the board..
@cynic5581
@cynic5581 2 года назад
Did you test airflow where you stacked up the fans? Generally that results in a loss of air flow of the more powerful fan from the resistance of the less powerful fan in its air stream. The less powerful fan doesn’t increase in airflow at all so it results in a net loss. Without a chamber in between the two like a PC case for example it’s regarded as a bad idea. This is why you never see it even in industrial applications unless very very specifically engineered as such…I can’t find an example of when it works well but I’m sure there is… CPS makes a reliable cheap airflow meter if you want to test it yourself.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 2 года назад
I was thinking of turbines, where alternating rotor/stator blades compress the air and increase pressure. But yeah, it is missing the stator blades, and probably wouldnt have worked well anyways, since the blades need to be optimized to work in that condition. The other logic I had, was that I wanted to use the bigger, 20mm thick fan on the inside, but it wouldnt fit. So I put it on the outside. Then I wanted something to be closer to the heatsink, so I also put the smaller fan in there to help direct the air onto the heatsink. It was not a great design, and I have since replaced it. I looked up those flow meters, not sure they will get accurate readings on those teeny tiny fans! I just need to buy a vape a blow smoke on it lie Major Hardware :)
@NickShl
@NickShl Год назад
Two fan in a series? That is hilarious! 😂 It will not give you a better performance than one fan. It make sense only if two fans spins in different directions(one clockwise and another counterclockwise) which isn't the case in your installation.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Год назад
Right, or I could add a stator in between them. But I don't care, it works and is quieter than before :P
@christopherpoulton9124
@christopherpoulton9124 10 месяцев назад
Wont the first fan force the original fan to spin and create a charge????
@jeffz2474
@jeffz2474 3 года назад
How to hack up your Ender 3 should be the name of this video.
@antlu65
@antlu65 Год назад
E3V2 fan noise was ridiculous - and the heatsink fan was always active. One day I finally had enough. I took the cheaper route and replaced stock fans with generic 24V fans run at 12V. Added a PCB mod where the heatsink fan is only active above a threshold temperature. Feel better now - I hated all that noise lol. 🙉
@late_nights
@late_nights Год назад
how did you manage to mod heatsink fan only active above threshold temperature?
@mysteriouspikachuman
@mysteriouspikachuman 2 года назад
Warning, noctua airflow may not be sufficient if you're running high temp, high speed or just a demanding hotend, so beware. However, you can use them for stuff like electronics, as they need less airflow and babysitting than your hotend.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 2 года назад
I haven't had issues with hotend cooling in my experience. Prusa I3Mk3 uses a Noctua fan for their hotend cooling
@mysteriouspikachuman
@mysteriouspikachuman 2 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots cool. from my and other people's experiences, noctua fans don't have enough airflow. i went with a sunon maglev 4010. love your videos, by the way :)
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 2 года назад
@@mysteriouspikachuman thanks! I wonder, - I always upgrade to all-metal heatbreaks with very thin tubes as my 1st step to any upgrade. I'd be willing to bed that I have success with the smaller noctua fans because the all metal heatbreaks transfer less heat over to the heatsink, and thus require less cooling... I've done the calculations, all metal vs ptfe is a 4-8x difference in heat transfer across the break.
@mysteriouspikachuman
@mysteriouspikachuman 2 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots you should try a bimetal heat break, they're much better than titanium or steel ones. cnc kitchen has a good video covering the topic.
@mysteriouspikachuman
@mysteriouspikachuman 2 года назад
the heat can travel freely through the heater block without being impeded by the different thermal properties of the heat break, the walls can be thinner, and if any heat reaches the heatsink, the high thermal conductivity of copper allows it to be transferred to the heatsink quickly.
@IowaMan
@IowaMan 2 года назад
wouldn't you want to unplug the other fan inside of the psu since the noctua will be blowing on that fan causing it to spin and could create a charge that could short out?
@ArielEarthyorder
@ArielEarthyorder Год назад
Yes, I believe you are correct
@Petro_Bandera
@Petro_Bandera 3 года назад
But a part cooling fan is still stock. It's not completely silent because biggest noise exactly from the part cooling fan and it is almost impossible to replace because there is a 24v controlled by pwm. You can install noctura fan there and limit fan speed in the slicer but guarantee that this will always work properly.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I got some 24v 5015 fans that in using now, much quieter and better part cooling. Will be posting a video with them on the printer soon
@Petro_Bandera
@Petro_Bandera 3 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots I tested all of them and you will have a creepy pwm sweeping ) Good luck.
@nikotime
@nikotime 3 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots This sounds great! Looking forward to the video
@LindonDirmauskas
@LindonDirmauskas 3 месяца назад
If you wore them with splitters won't the nozzle fan always be running ?
@mrhogey6062
@mrhogey6062 Год назад
That’s cool I’ll probably do this later. After I get a few print under my belt
@Mr.McWatson
@Mr.McWatson 4 месяца назад
You just turn down the voltage on the buck convertor to slow the fan?
@dericklong6191
@dericklong6191 Год назад
This has been a while ago but you ever figure out that you can print mods to fit all these fans on there
@specCon18
@specCon18 3 года назад
Great video and yes the Aquila from voxelab is wonderful I bought it as my first printer and have built it out from there way better starting point then my buddy with his ender 3 doing this upgrade now. Thanks for the tutorial lots of help keep it up!
@tony1ant
@tony1ant 2 года назад
Why aren't you measuring the noise with the Nozzle Fan On ? It's not an accurate reading without the nozzle fan on
@snax_4820
@snax_4820 3 года назад
The solution for the PSU is excellent and easy!
@sirsmalls4565
@sirsmalls4565 3 года назад
So is your hot end and cooling fan wired together? I’m trying to figure out if I could make my cooling fan work like stock where it turns on after the first few layers.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I left my cooling fan as a 24v unit and wired it into the same cables that the stock part cooling fan used, so it has the same behavior. The dual ball bearing 5015 fans by WINSINN are pretty good, I left a link to them in the description. If you are using a12V fan for part cooling you will need to run a voltage adapter in series with it, let me know if you need more help with that.
@Vinz3ntR
@Vinz3ntR 2 года назад
Turn the fan of the power supply around so it sucks out, the warm air (that already tries to go up anyway) will be sucked out and replaced with cool air from the bottom. This will improve cooling efficiency of the PSU. Also keep in mind that while cutting away metal improves airflow so that's a good thing, but it will also increase dust so be sure to blow out any buildup of dust (with can of compressed air) before it's sticking to your components and can't be removed with a compressed air can anymore.
@pinponelmono
@pinponelmono Год назад
the fan that you replaced the power supply works in the other direction, it takes air out from and not in to the power supply, you must turn it backwards... the part of the mother board... not good, now you must use boxes... bad idea.
@thewyverncult
@thewyverncult 2 года назад
ok im dont get it, you wanted to lower the decibel due to the stock fans, but you left all but one in there.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 2 года назад
Yeah, I'm working on an updated version. This time no stock fan will be left alive.
@paulkim3521
@paulkim3521 Год назад
Great video. Just bout one for my first printer. Does having the upgraded part fan sucking instead makes of pushing make a difference?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Год назад
It depends on the fan, most of them I set up to push air. You end up with smoother air flow on the intake side, and more turbulent air on the outlet. Turbulence = more heat transfer!
@KBOSGroundAgent
@KBOSGroundAgent Год назад
The best question is why his motherboard is upside down
@mitri5389
@mitri5389 3 года назад
you have both fans running in series? why, you just make more noise and create less airflow. take out the old fan, in order to have multiple fans in series you would have to have a stator which has its blades pointed in the inverse direction of the spinning blades.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Yeah I think a stator would make it better, like in a jet engine. The way it set up now is quieter than it was before but I guess it could use some improvement. The best solution is to just get rid of that fan altogether like I did on some of my fanless builds. Someone in the comments said if you use an AC heated bed you can use a tiny laptop power supply which I would really like to try!
@snailer06
@snailer06 3 года назад
6:07 The airflow is upside down on the PSU (The PSU is upside down). The fan should suck cool air from below and release it out the top vent holes.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Yeah, I didn't like installing the fan like that. Gotta have gravity work with us not against us!
@albinnk
@albinnk 3 года назад
​@@NathanBuildsRobots This statement only makes the case for bottom mounting (or flipping) the fan even stronger. benches air typically become less dense when it is heated causing it to be pushed sideways and upwards by the colder, more-dense fluid around it, that is being pulled more strongly down by gravity. So long as gravity is the dominant force at work. In one aspekt you are the one working against gravity😏. But seriously, splendid video it helped a lot!
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
You're welcome! Yes I know, everything is upside down, but it's Creality's fault because they pre drilled the holes to be installed with the fan on top blowing in. If have preferred to have the fan on bottom blowing in, or the fan on top blowing out, but without opening up the power supply or mounting it with the wires sticking out of the top I had to do it the less than optimal way :(which is why it pains me to install it the way I did but it was the lesser of 2 evils)
@ericc8895
@ericc8895 3 года назад
nice work man, i just ordered the Ender 3 V2, and why i was at it i also ordered the Dual Screw Rod Upgrade Kit, BL Touch Self Leveling Sensor kit, BIGTREETECH TFT35 E3 V3.0 Touch Screen, CR10 Heatsink Hotend Kit, Upgraded Aluminum Dual Gear Pulley Dual Drive Extruder Kit and the FYSETC heat bed gold springs. Cannot wait to get this bad boy all together.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Nice, welcome to the Ender 3 Fam. The first upgrades I put on mine were the gold bed springs, Capricorn tubing, and all metal extruder. Now I have noctua fans, v6 clone hotend, 5015 blower... pretty soon I'll have spent more on upgrades than the printer itself!
@ericc8895
@ericc8895 3 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots i will have to keep a look out for new content you post for upgrades.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I just finished putting on a volcano hotend on my v2, it's pretty sweet. Prints twice as fast now, but slightly lower quality. Will be posting the video later this week!
@alycapo3391
@alycapo3391 3 года назад
That is a an very good build. Please upload info on the volcano
@tonyweavers4292
@tonyweavers4292 3 года назад
Man that machine looks real messy now. I love the way you butchered the sheet metal work. Really professional! I laughed out loud several times when you used your huge cutters to leave dangerous sharp edges everywhere. I had to click LIKE as it was so entertaining to watch.
@Mr.Thermistor7228
@Mr.Thermistor7228 Год назад
My dude that panel is on the very bottom of the printer and it is facing downwards. With about a half inch gap between the table and the actual bottom of the printer it is 100% not even visoble. Soooooo who cares
@CerealFapist
@CerealFapist 2 года назад
i am trying to do this but don't know where to find anything to lift the printer up do you have a link to the STL?
@tobias6365
@tobias6365 2 года назад
When the Fans cost 30% of the whole Printer.
@ThatUnfunGuy
@ThatUnfunGuy 2 года назад
That's because the printer is so cheap ;)
@schlomoshekelstein908
@schlomoshekelstein908 2 года назад
these fans are really really overpriced
@ultraderek
@ultraderek 3 года назад
To get around the 24v dilemma, without using buck converters, I would run two 12v fans in series.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I will try that, thanks! I want to put them in series and measure the voltage with a multimeter to see what happens if I stop one fan while the other keeps spinning.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Update: I tried running 2 in series and it actually worked. It's be in my next video.
@duviday
@duviday 3 года назад
the problem with this is that when one fan slows down or stops (if for example it breaks or malfucntions) and therefore uses less current, then the other fan will see a higher voltage. This is not a viable solution. You need a stable 12v supply. If you dont want to use a bulky buck converter you can use a backwards-operating 12v zener diode with the appropriate current-limiting resistor to provide a stable 12v.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
@@duviday I thought the same thing, but it turns out noctuas have really good current limiting protection, so they stop they so themselves from blowing up. I wouldn't recommend it, but it's been working for me. When I stop one fan the other sees a voltage spike and sits itself off in 1 seconds. Then they both turn back on. If I constantly jam one, the other will keep trying to start but it will just turn on and off repeatedly until I release the other fan.
@steffenmuller2888
@steffenmuller2888 3 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots measure the current: my guess is, that if you stop one fan, the current rises (on the stopped fan) and the other (free spinning) fan stops due to voltage drop.
@PantsuMann
@PantsuMann 2 года назад
I think my extruder fan is making the most noise, so I might get away with leaving the PSU alone. But I'm a complete noob here so I have a question. Do I need that chip you plugged into the PSU before hooking in the fan for the extruder fans as well?
@SoullessScythe
@SoullessScythe Год назад
youre gunna destroy that printer with that double fan setup
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Год назад
Ahh, you're right, that must have been what killed it
@florianettwein6509
@florianettwein6509 3 года назад
Best only fans video ever
@KuriPuhh
@KuriPuhh 3 года назад
I was thinking of an other solution, cooling the pcb with a teg.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
You could do that, but ThermoElectric Generators are mainly used to cool things below ambient temperatures, or accelerate heat transfer to a heatsink, which will then disappear that heat into the air. They are interesting but not very efficient. Similar cooling can be achieved by simply using a slightly larger passive heatsink. In my latest video I installed a vapor chamber (heat pipe) onto the motherboard to cool the stepper drivers. It looked cool but was probably overkill. Would have been easier to just put a normal heatsink back there for similar effect. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uqCntWdLIvA.html
@lukas_FPV_X
@lukas_FPV_X 3 года назад
I replaced the mainboard also with a 40x10mm nocta so u don’t habe a big Fan under Ur Printer and replacing the Print Part cooler i did that on my ender 3. 3x 40x10mm nocta That replaced the Stock Fan and u Fan Screew ist in and don’t need Hotglue 😅and 1x 120mm nocta fan for the Powersupply and of course the silent board. printer is now super quiet
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I wasn't able to show the silent stepper board installation since I installed mine a while ago, but it's very important for having a silent printer.
@azfilmmaking6734
@azfilmmaking6734 2 года назад
Seems like Nacuta 40x15 doesn’t have enough air flow for the hotend.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 2 года назад
Teaching Tech just released a silent printing video a day or 2 ago and went over things in much more detail than I did. He says as long as you are using a duct to direct air through the hotend heatsink fan you should be fine with the reduced flow rate from the noctua. Personally I have not had any issues with my printers that are running slower fans, but I keep everything at room temperature. This might be an issue only if printing at high ambient temperatures or inside of a heated enclosure.
@RedxBoy00
@RedxBoy00 3 года назад
sorry but i don't understand why did you put 2 fan on the hotend ?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
The idea was that the stock fan is bigger flow, so maybe I would get more airflow out of 2 fans to make up for the fact that the noctua fans move less air. I don't think it helped that much, it would probably be better to just go with a single fan.
@RedxBoy00
@RedxBoy00 3 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots okay.thank you for your response !
@vincentmalcorps7614
@vincentmalcorps7614 2 года назад
Superb work! Thank you!
@spaceace2nd
@spaceace2nd 3 года назад
Are you not push staring the power Fan with the new Noctua? If so that would make small power and is not earthed making static? (if that fan kicks in shorting you hold board?)
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
So the external noctua is blowing air through the internal PSU fan. The internal fan is stationary so it's not generating any voltage.
@dericklong6191
@dericklong6191 Год назад
You got a 235mm bed on it?
@waynefilkins8394
@waynefilkins8394 Год назад
I did the nozzle and part-cooling fans but man this thing is still really loud. I put it by my PC hoping it wouldn' t bother me but it definitely bothers me. I have 2 more of these noctua 40x20 fans, anyone know if I can use these to replace the other ones like power supply and motherboard or w/e?
@urgamecshk
@urgamecshk Год назад
All depends on voltage
@waynefilkins8394
@waynefilkins8394 Год назад
@@urgamecshk ended up going all noctua except psu fan was artic something or another, the silent version. Now it's super quiet :) I think I had to use buck converters for 3, thought I'd have to for psu but turns out I didn't need to
@Hydraks81
@Hydraks81 3 года назад
Well you could just buy a same size noctua fan, open the PSU, solder original PSU fan connexion and swap the fan for the noctua. The original is 12V & it''s not a good idea to add fan on top of each orther, this will damage both fan early and the air flow does not add (not at a point this is usefull/worth damaging the fans) In fact even if the noctua was less efficient, the PSU fan is controled with a temp sensor, so it may only goes on for a little longer and this avoid have this fan on all the time. Less noise and same effect, i don't understand why would you do it like the video, you use a buck converter that wasn't needed and this is more messy.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Noctua doesn't make a 60x60x10mm fan, only 60x60x25 Based on what I've seen the fan has a plug so it's pretty easy to do the mod you mentioned. It probably would be better to just remove the internal fan and just run the noctua off the PSU's internal fan plug. But you have to be a little careful, I think the 12V is generated using a zener diode, which will probably burn out if the replacement fan draws too much current.
@Hydraks81
@Hydraks81 3 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots yeah the noctua needs to be outside (the messy part is the buck converter and cable) I don't think the 12v generated is less than 130mA but yeah it needs to be verified. (Why 130 mA : the 60x60x25 noctua is 12v & 1,44 watts witch is 0.12A +~10% for the safeness) I also think you could replace the nozzle fan with noctua but it needs a fan duct/fang print.
@Hydraks81
@Hydraks81 3 года назад
Nvm I just saw your fan less video. You don't need to replace it if you don't have any fans 🤔😅
@89Johneboy
@89Johneboy 2 года назад
imagine spending so much on new fans and mounting them like this so their $ value for cooling is compromised xD. Unless both fans in line are spinning perfectly in unison then you're going to have some resistance and drag, which one, lowers cooling and two, makes noise! lol.
@huss987huss
@huss987huss 2 года назад
Yea it isn't really an efficient way to do it. He should have just got higher flow fans
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 2 года назад
Learn from my mistakes, you got this!
@stormbytes
@stormbytes 3 года назад
Not really an "upgrade". More like a design mod and not a very efficient one in my opinion. Was looking for a video on in place substitution of the stock fans with quiet Noctua model.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
The stock fans are all 24v and noctua mostly does 12v fans, so you need to add a buck converter. Lately I have been using more of these fans since they are cheaper and run on 24v. amzn.to/3ESAjcF
@petelund5478
@petelund5478 3 года назад
Man, thanks for this video. Very hands on! Especially liked the benchmarking before the changes. One Question: What gauge wire are you using between the power supply and the buck converter?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
It should be drawing around 0.1A so almost any gage will work. But I tend to use big wires (20Ga or larger) to make sure some surface mount component blows before the wires melt, because that way at least things stay put. I always Google "awg" to get to this page: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge#Tables_of_AWG_wire_sizes "Then look at Ampacity at temperature rating"
@Brianwiz
@Brianwiz 3 года назад
Great video! Has the production value of a much larger channel. It would be cool if you found a way to swap the part cooling fan too!
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Thanks, I tried to do this mod without having to do any 3D printing. I just got some new fans in Winsinn 50x15 Blower Fans. They are the same type that Prusa uses.
@Leetsch
@Leetsch 9 месяцев назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots so, 2 years later, what do you recommend for the E3Pro for part cooling to be as silent as possible? I planned to use a noctua 40x20 with a custom duct from thingiverse but they apparently cant handle the 2pin pwm coming from the mobo.
@johnpekkala6941
@johnpekkala6941 3 года назад
The V2 is a in general good machine I think but indeed I was a bit dissapointed that the PSU fan is so loud I need to use earplugs in my right ear to be able to sit next to the machine and continue working on the CAD computer at the left side of it while its operating without risking long term hearing damage as it is basically like having a hairdryer on full speed or similar constantly screaming in my right ear as I have set the V2 machine and CAD/Slicer computer together on a table as a complete workstation and while the machine is running one set of parts I meanwhile often like work on another set of parts on the CAD computer at same time while keeping a constant eye on the machine in case something go wrong, part comes loose from plate ect. Also the hotend fan is broken from start with cheap bad bearings that squeal and vibrate from start although I can get it to roll properly for an entire run by switching the machine on and off a couple of times and then the bearing will align properly.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Lol, I know what you mean, the sound bothered me too. Now I'm printing 15 mm^3/s in silence with a V6 Volcano hotend kit, which is 4 times faster than when I was using the stock setup. I'll post a video about it in the next couple of days. Just ran a 20 hr print that using over 1 kg of filament. I used Winsinn 5015 fans which blow a ton of air and are still quieter than the stock part cooling fan. My stock part cooling fans bearings were fine, but it makes a high pitched coil whine while running, so I cut its wire just to get it to shut up!
@johnpekkala6941
@johnpekkala6941 3 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots I saw your other vid now also about the PSU not having any outlet for the cooling air possibly posing an overheating and fire hazard so im in the process of fixing this at moment. Got the PSU box loose from the machine and tomorrow Im gonna Dremel out a square in the cover sheet over where the PSU vent holes are. I think its strange that Creality took good care with air outlet holes on the controlboard box but missed them completley on the PSU box.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Yeah, it makes no sense to me because if they left all that extra metal it it would be cheaper to make? While you're at it I would get rid of the fan cover on the black piece, since the psu already has one.
@rBazan
@rBazan Год назад
How offten does the stock fan on the psu goes on?
@JamieEnglish
@JamieEnglish 3 года назад
Are you using a silent board for the motors?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Both have a silent board, but only the v2 comes with it stock. I had to buy/install the silent board on the pro.
@vsar1938
@vsar1938 2 года назад
I think this would only make sense if you have the motherboard with the silent drivers because those are honestly the loudest/ most annoying aspect of the printing process. If you do this to a standard mobo then you really are wasting time and money.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 2 года назад
My first printer had the worst stepper noise. After printing with it for 24 hrs my ears were about to bleed
@dimeloloco
@dimeloloco Год назад
bro gained fans
@purplezer0196
@purplezer0196 3 года назад
How would you attach the second hot end fan onto the aquila?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I actually took the setup from this build and installed it on my Aquila. (I also upgraded the hotend mounting plate to a Microswiss direct drive version, otherwise the mounting holes would not have lined up) If you were keeping the original plastic shroud you might be able to sandwich the plastic shroud between 2 fans using some long screws.
@FoxSock
@FoxSock 3 года назад
is the upside down electronics case just on the ender 3 v2? the one on my ender 3 is upright
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I made a separate video where I re-oriented the power supply so it can get better airflow. It was a lot of work, can't say I would reccomend it, but I would at least cut away the part of the case that blocks the power supply vents.
@ivanjack8341
@ivanjack8341 2 года назад
i can't hear the silence from your video because my ender is running :)))))
@diablopet
@diablopet 3 года назад
Do you know if stock motherboard fan is allways on or starting only when get hot?
@calvinsmith-lecuyer9020
@calvinsmith-lecuyer9020 3 года назад
The Ender 3 V2 motherboard fan is wired into the part cooling fan, so if you have the part cooling fan off or reduced, it also reduces or shuts off the motherboard fan.
@diablopet
@diablopet 3 года назад
@@calvinsmith-lecuyer9020 same in ender 3 pro?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Unfortunately it is the same in a lot of printers where it only turns on with the part cooling fan. On some nicer boards you can set it up the fans to activate whenever you are printing, but that requires another transistor on the motherboard that they just don't want to pay for on these super budget machines.
@liveweyeractual
@liveweyeractual 3 года назад
So it is ok to run multiple fans on one buck converter?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Yes. The fans draw about 0.05A, the buck converter is probably capable of 5A, so you could run 100 fans on it if you really wanted to. I just tried a fan's suggestion (no pun intended) to run 2 12V Noctuas in series off of the 24V line and it actually worked.
@pockpock6382
@pockpock6382 3 года назад
he just cuts it out hahahahaha
@MrDAKO173
@MrDAKO173 Год назад
your blower fan is not working
@alvodisco
@alvodisco 2 года назад
Absolutely blursed
@Every_Thing_LMP
@Every_Thing_LMP 3 года назад
Can you put a new fan on the side of the extruder
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
The fan on the side of the extruder is the part cooling fan. It makes an annoying noise so I've taken some steps to make it quieter. 1) I have part cooling turned off for most of my prints in the slicer settings. 2) You can replace it with a 5015 fan like the one I used in this other video. The 5015 blows more air and makes a less annoying noise (but it's still not super quiet). ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q41AhKl1_kI.html
@QBarszcz
@QBarszcz 3 года назад
will you really build fanless 3d printer? wow! (12:15)
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I think it can be done, will start looking into it now!
@MOTIG1
@MOTIG1 Год назад
Gotta love a fan joke😄
@Alex-444x94
@Alex-444x94 Год назад
noctua ftw
@broderp
@broderp 3 года назад
This can be a bad idea. People jump all over Noctua fans to make printers quieter, but stop to consider the consequences of doing so. These fans are quieter because the move less air. Less air means less effective cooling and on longer prints can lead to print issues and heat creep. Read up on it before you do any mods with slower fans.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
A good way to approximate fan noise is: Noise=Airflow/area. Bigger fans will move the same volume of air more quietly. A higher flow rate fan will be louder if the size is the same. However, there is a design factor in how much noise is produced. Noctua tends to be excellent in terms of airflow per unit of noise. For example if you had 2 fans the same size and same airflow, the Noctua one would make maybe 20-40% less noise. Stock fans tend to be very loud and move a lot of air. The stock fans are overkill for most cases, but a very safe choice. You might like the "Fan Showdown" videos by Major Hardware. He calculates fan effectiveness vs noise levels with Noctua as a benchmark. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PP9_aEViSu4.html&ab_channel=MajorHardware
@SasquatchTheMighty
@SasquatchTheMighty Год назад
Great Idea with Poor execution...
@tupapalote23
@tupapalote23 2 года назад
More fans for your fans….. why?
@StraisSounds
@StraisSounds 10 месяцев назад
boo you had to show how to connect the wiring for the head fan, mate.. :((
@ym30214
@ym30214 2 года назад
Squashballfeets!! :D
@sensationsmoke9152
@sensationsmoke9152 3 года назад
noctuas are overpriced AF, i just bought 3x arctic cooling and 3 buck converters for 15 $
@br0k3nilluzion
@br0k3nilluzion 3 года назад
have an amazon link for the 40x20mm fans?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
There are fans that are 25% the price and have 90% the performance. But I also use the plethora of "free" connectors included in the box with my Noctua fans. Makes wiring a little easier. Are Noctua fans overkill for most applications? Yes. But they will also last until the end of time, so think if it as an investment.
@sensationsmoke9152
@sensationsmoke9152 3 года назад
@@br0k3nilluzion im taking care of the cpu and motherboard one, gonna put them under 7 volts, im not sleeping next to the printer so im leaving stock on the nozzle
@br0k3nilluzion
@br0k3nilluzion 3 года назад
@@sensationsmoke9152 which arctic fans are you using? Have a link to em by chance?
@sensationsmoke9152
@sensationsmoke9152 3 года назад
@@br0k3nilluzion www.ebay.de/itm/362934991661 bought directly from that link (im not supporting any seller) yes noctuas are definitely better but for me not for that price. To the mod i saw cpu and mobo covers on thingerverse (like www.thingiverse.com/thing:4822648 that guy also used the arcic fans that we are talking about) but im gonna just cut and drill the original cover and prit some riser feets.
@nick-of-all-trades
@nick-of-all-trades Год назад
Seriously, you made this video just to make that joke.
@shabba0123456
@shabba0123456 3 года назад
I don't usually comment but you butchered that machine LOL
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Man, I'm getting a lot of these comments. Maybe I should switch over to doing ironic shitty builds
@jonathanbeccau6198
@jonathanbeccau6198 3 года назад
Oh my.. i mean yeah it could be just a tad quieter but its not as much the different fans its how they get air in, by removing any "gates" "small holes" ext from the fan inlet will make it quieter due to airflow.. but hey man if u feel that throwing out money on fans go ahead! I only recommend that one only print a new holder for the fans, as heat removal is a important thing... just saying :P
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Yeah the v2 seems loud compared to the Ender 3 Pro, which is probably down to the new fan protector design. I've thrown away close to $400 on Noctua fans over the years so don't tell me now that they aren't any quieter!
@jonathanbeccau6198
@jonathanbeccau6198 3 года назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots but quiet is not everything, airflow and cooling is much more important than the noise, yes noctua is quieter but to a sacrifice on airflow. but if it works it works but people should know that in some cases its not a great idea to change the fans to quiet when it needs good airflow! :)
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
@@jonathanbeccau6198 Yeah that's why I doubled up on the fans for the hotend heatsink. The 2 fans together make up for them being weaker, which i verified through temperature readings. Its not exactly a cost effective solution but I was working with the stuff I already bought. Speaking of "if it works it works", someone commented that I should just use the 2 Noctua fans in series since 12V + 12V = 24V. It actually works! If you stop one fan, the other gets about 0.5 seconds of 24V before they both shut off, I think through their built in overcurrent protection. Then they both turn back on at the same time and just go. This was using the 40x10 and 40x20 fans in series, which have the same voltage and current rating. I was pretty sure it was going to fry $30 worth of fans instantly but it was a risk worth taking.
@GeneralHowToTutorials
@GeneralHowToTutorials 3 года назад
It kinda hurts watching you cut all of that metal lol
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I was suprised I didn't cut myself in the process. Definitely not my finest work!
@siej7
@siej7 Год назад
you are destroying your 3d printer, holy shit... You can basically print mods to make everything fit well, ya' know?
@thomassears2362
@thomassears2362 2 года назад
You monster
@Deathbyfartz
@Deathbyfartz 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rhecypP1-sg.html that's not how fans work XD
@snakeplisgen4966
@snakeplisgen4966 3 года назад
half of the printer price for new fans. This will be evolution. :-(
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
Yeah, there are certainly cheaper fans on the market, but prefer Noctuas. The cost increase is due to better materials, engineering, and accessories (such as the extension and splitter cables that I used to wire up the machine). Well worth the additional cost IMO.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 3 года назад
I will see what I can do about getting the price of the fans down.
@mohe81
@mohe81 3 года назад
No. Just no.
@tomaszkorytkowski1399
@tomaszkorytkowski1399 3 года назад
This video is painful to watch
@tonyweavers4292
@tonyweavers4292 3 года назад
I did laugh too!
@antonakulov73
@antonakulov73 2 года назад
Самый рукожопый апгрейд, всё топорно, наотмашь, деньги есть - ума не надо.
@charliebell7163
@charliebell7163 2 года назад
So corny
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