*I love watching your videos!* *I have a bunch of 3d printers, including an ELEGOO Saturn Resin 3D Printer, and I've learned a ton from you.* *Your videos are short and precise for the vast amount of info you provide, which I love.*
Single bed mod I've made to my pair of E5-S1's has been to relocate the CR Touch problem to a zero Y offset. Auto bed leveling works flawlessly now and first layer issues are a thing of the past. It literally moves this printer up a full notch in quality & usability.
If you buy this printer, get it from, Amazon. Lots of people on forums having issues with Creality using the first buyers as beta testers. I sent this printer back after a day because of bad ringing, non-standard nozzle size, and auto-level not working at all and creating random z-height values every time it self levels. I went with the SV-05 instead. Ender 5 S1 requires klipper if you want good prints out of it.
UPDATE 2 Months: 3 Sonic Pads, 3 Creality printers, Ender 3V2, S1, 5Plus. All have reliability issues. All on latest Dec firmware. One SonicPad had issue with USB port and took out control board, causing Thermal runaway, Ingot a SonicPad replaced, but the control board I had to pay for. The issues are varied, but mostly the disconnects with error on the connections to FLUIDD are maddening, tried multiple cables, direct on internet versus wifi, etc. We bought these to speed up our printers and have better quality..it is seeming more and more that this is a myth. By the time you put all this money in Creality, you might be better buying a Bambu Labs for $699 that will do up to 500 mm/s and you don’t have to mess around with it. Plus, Creality service is terrible, non-responsive, asks wrong questions, etc. they said there would be another update, but time has passed and no details or acknowledgment. If you rely on these printers and this setup, beware for now.
You’re reviews are the best! Would you ever consider doing an up to date tier list or comparison video? I’d love to know your overall impressions on some of the best printers for each price range comparing them to each other based on your personal preference and the results you’ve been able to achieve with them!
This would help so much! I really want one, but I don't wanna spend big bucks unless it's actually necessary. Came to yt to see if the Endler 3s pro was any good til i saw it compared to prusa so decided on going with prusa mk3 til I saw the Bambu video then I saw the prusa dupe video and now I'm frozen in indecisiveness lol her videos are amazing there's just sooo many options.
I hope this gives you some additional perspective. Something else is that they have the build platform and xy motion performed at the top of the machine which to some extent reduces the rigidity by raising the center of gravity of the machine, especially under high acceleration/jerk motions. Also the build plate starting at the end of the leadscrew's travel creates further susceptibility to rigidity/accuracy/repeatability issues due to cylindricity tolerances. For these reasons I'd rather see z move xy than the build plate or printhead alone. Again, your videos have been such a great resource for keeping a pulse on the 3d printer market. Concise yet complete. I like when you comment on cheap ways to mod the machines for higher performance. I hope you can get your hands on the Bamboo Labs P1P, bc with the available COTS tech these days its hard to debate not making your own machine with all of the best features.
Hello! Can you tell me what settings / profile do you use? I have Ender 5 S1 + sonic pad and after 10min of print it clogg... It is brand new i bought yesterday. Thank you!
Thank you a lot for your work and high quality videos! The majority of printer users or 3D creators share the same room with their 3D printers therefore NOISE data in decibels (dB )would be much appreciated in your reviews if possible! :) Cheers!
Great review as always. I realize that you don't want to make any printer look bad, but it still would've been nice to see the 3 s1 also overclocked to run at those speeds since you were comparing them against each other. I don't really understand the design choice for the 5 s1 because the intense vibrations were pretty obvious since the bed lacks any side support. Which means its high speed mode is only useful for the roughest of print jobs.
Another great review. I like the addition of the nat sound of the printer working as that gives some context to how loud it might be when it's working at the different speeds. It would be great if you could do a video on why you pick the settings you use while tweaking other stock printers for newer models since that would help users like me find ways to optimize our prints, like best speeds for first layer, infill, etc.
I got this printer on release date, couldn't be more happy comming from a Flsun i3 plus which broke every week... I love to see you pushed the limits of it since i was just printing at 120mm/s, I would love to see if you can make some improvements over this machine too, Thanks Aurora for your great videos!
Holy carp... two filament boxes to support the bed while setting it up? Didn't even cross my mind. LMAO Nice. Glad I saw this before I got my machine. Thanks! ((that first print is like butter. Love the up close view))
If it would have had dual z- leadscrew it would have been verrryy near perfect for me, for this price, hope there Will soon be a pro version. Also hope corexy would be add
Always impressive reviews. Thanks for sharing. I'd like to get away from bedslingers and this looks like a good printer. BUT, I would gladly pay a bit more for an upgraded version with the features you mentioned. So here is my idea, feel free to run with it. An Aurora Tech branded 3d printer. 1.Create the best "hobby" level printer you can. 2. ??? 3. Profit.
Could you add more details about the sonic pad mount you printed? Specifically, what size screws are required, and where are the mounting points in the 5S1 base that you screwed into? That would be super helpful. [Note: loved the video - it helped convince me to go ahead and buy the same setup.]
Thanks for the video and thanks for giving Creality the feedback you did. I just purchased a combo with the sonic pad last week so I am assuming they listened to your advice.
A great job with all the details and explanations. And, the filming / editing are done well. My only issue is the dreaded "RU-vid Narrator Speak". The cadence & tone simply repeat over & over. It is nearly robotic. After 10 minutes my wife asked me to turn it down as it was hard to listen to. Please feel free to speak expressively. If you liked something, go ahead & sound like you liked it. When you are doing your narration over the video please take small breaks so that you might avoid getting into a repetitive cadence.
Good Grief my wallet hates this channel, (I love this channel BTW) I'm still playing with my new 5 plus that you recommended, and the sonic pad should be here in the next few days that you also recommended. I'm hoping that Creality has the 5 plus is included on the sonic pad but if not, My E3V2 Sprite Pro upgraded will love it. Good Stuff Aurora, you and your brother are amazing young people. Keep up the excellent work that you do.
Great video and you made me aware of something I didn't realize. At 18:00 you showed the nozzle size (length) and I didn't realize it was longer than the standard MK8. I recently put on a new nozzle and didn't notice the difference in length and was wondering why I was getting a little leakage. I'm guessing the standard doesn't bottom out as much as the longer nozzle. Thanks for the video!
Its great to see a machine where the part cooling has been addressed and it looks like Creality have come up with a good cooling duct, I would love to see a direct comparison between this and the Sovol SV-05 Cubic.
I love my Ender 5 S1, sadly the idler pulley had a misshapen bracket so I cant' really print with it right now but Creality has already helped me get a new part sent out so I can fix the printer once and for all 🥰
Hello! Can you tell me what settings / profile do you use? I have Ender 5 S1 + sonic pad and after 10min of print it clogg... It is brand new i bought yesterday. Thank you!
@@nikolaterziev93 sadly I couldn't really help you with that since I'm not using the Sonic Pad. In the slicer I'm using the default Ender 5 S1 settings with speed turned down a bit and retractions/flow tuned according to the guides available for Cura
There's just too much vibration for my needs. After the initial rush of getting a printer, you appreciate slowing down certain layers and taking longer in order to make a better quality print.
Yes outstanding review young lady and team. So much value and logical information. Agree with your remedy to the cons as well. Can you say why the 10S Pro has been left without upgrades for so long. I know feel the Ender 5 is a better design I like my 10s Pro Configuration and height. this Ender 5 with your suggestions would be very hard to ignore but so would the 10S Pro with those similar upgrades. You all take care and thank you so much for your excellent reviews and also sharing your filament experience. Eryone PLA has been great for the money. Dennis
Creality actually released the cr-10 smart pro earlier this year. It came out before the ender 3 s1 pro and was the first printer from creality with the sprite pro extruder
@@freekshow0011 AND that's why I bought it. Plus I got a Black Friday deal of $570 dollars. But I'd love to know if this fan duct on this 5S1 could be put on that Smart Pro printer???
I would agree, kind of. They already have the Ender 6, and they should have made these upgrades to it and release the Ender 6 S1. I have 2 E6's and if it had the Sprite Pro, with the improved cooling ducts, and bed leveling out of the box, it would dominate the mid-range printer market. Plus, it already has an enclosure. I don't understand Creality.
Hi I love your videos and I see myself coming back to see your setup and profiles. I was hoping you can share your profiles with me please. Great video and its been very helpful Thank you
👍Love the full gear "ultimate hobby printer" recommendation. This 5 S1 linear rails ($20), dual Z-axis ($60), raspberry pi, and cover & doors to enclose ($150) for $700-800 would be a great value. Make it an IDEX with a 2nd extruder for $900. How does 5 S1 print quality compare to the Sovol S4 and S5? Ask Creality if they would be willing to market a "Aurora special" printer. 😉
One more thing, I posted this on one of your older vids, but not sure if you look at comments on older vids... "In the lastest firmware update for the Sonic Pad, they added several printer profiles, including one for the "CR10 Smart". However they do NOT have the "CR10 Smart PRO" on there that I've seen. As they have different boards in them, I am assuming that this is not a usable profile for the Smart PRO. Why would they add the older, less updated Smart, and leave out the Smart Pro??? Anyway, I'd love for you to do a video of adding the Sonic Pad to the CR10 Smart Pro, and show the results. Also, I'd love to know where you got the 5015 blower for your 5 S1 Pro, as I can't find it anywhere. Thanks for all the well rounded and professionally done vids by you and your brother. I hope to get an answer to these questions, as I have a lot riding on it. Lastly, if you have time, I'd love to see a compare/contrast between the Ender 5 S1 Pro, and the Smart Pro. Thanks. Cheers!"
Anyone watching this looking to get one, just wait a couple months. You know well enough they'll release a "Pro" version with many worthwhile upgrades. Or even a "Plus" version.
Youre doing great work, thank you for these videos, theyre really helpful. One question i have for the sonic pad, i saw you can now use multiple printers with fluid? I think? Can we get a tutorial on that
The 5 S1 doesn't use "long" Mk8 nozzles. They're M6 / Spider / Ender 7. Plenty of hardened nozzles available at places like MatterHackers. This isn't made nearly as clear as it should be from Creality. Once you start looking for M6/Spider/Ender 7 nozzles, they're found readily in multiple different sizes. Not as plentiful as Mk8/Mk10, but still available anyway.
Hello Aurora! I really liked your review of the new printer from Sovol SV05. I just wanted to ask. Will you be reviewing another new Sovol SV06 model? I am very interested in this printer.
If I planned to print more I think I would’ve grabbed a 5s1. Couldn’t pass up the 3s1 for $250 though. Couldn’t justify doubling the price for my needs. As a side note. I hope Ender releases a 5s1 plus and discons the current 5 plus. Too many upgrades in the 5s1 to not migrate over.
The one thing you didn't explain was if you have to re-slice the models when using the Sonic Pad, or if you have to change the setting in your slicer when switching to the Sonic Pad that uses Klipper and not Marlin..
Did any but he use the sensor for this on the sonic pad? If so, what bracket did they use for the hot in or did you just use double-sided sticky tape? Any pictures of set ups would be great!
Thank you for all the information you give, and share on many 3d printers. Recently I bought the Ender 5 S1, and a Sonic Pad. Thanks to you I got it all setup fairly well. One thing I am having trouble with is the slicer profiles, not enough experience I suppose, and my first Klipper machine. Can you share the profiles, either by file or text, for those high speeds you are getting?
Klipper is really amazing and the sonic pad makes it so much easier to use klipper. I noticed you got some voxel pla+ I would like to know your thoughts on it
I recently got the Ender 5 S1 and I can’t seem to get the prints to stick no matter how much leveling I do Is the secret replacing the bed or using some kind of adhesive Also I noticed that your benchy print had a perfect first layer My first layers are not uniform just a bunch of lines
@@Condamine123456 Integrated leadscrew steppers are cheap, even at retail, much less wholesale. Additionally, they had to use a much beefier mounting plate and injection-molded braces because it's just on one side - they could use the same amount of metal for a dual z mount and they wouldn't need the extra braces. CoreXY requires a few extra bearings and idlers and slightly more belt. I don't think it would actually cost that much *as a manufacturer*. A rough google of the parts required says it would be about $50 retail, at MOST. Note that I'm not talking about $50 to convert the existing to corexy/dual z. But to do it from the beginning. That means that the cost to creality would be about $20 at most. Why do you believe it would push the price up dramatically? If I'm missing something, please let me know. But just saying something without elaborating isn't very convincing. I'm willing to be wrong, but not without evidence.
@@gaxon1920 Did you not see the bed shaking like a heroin addict on withdrawal? I did. It may not be necessary on a bed that size if done right, but it sure looks like it would help this printer.
Sadly I tried this yesterday with a new sonic pad and 5 s1 and failed to complete the final step of automatic bed levelling. The first point tested, the front extreme left places the nozzle so close to the corner that the cr touch sensory in no longer above the bed. As this is the case it will never touch the bed and stop the bed rising. This places a dent in the bed and stops the calibration with a dreadful crunch. Back on the supplied firmware.
Excellent review! I see the bed shaking. Is it an issue or just an impression? It might be the vibration on the camera. What fast printer would you recommend with a 300×300mm print bed? I would get the FLSUN V400 but my part has a diameter of 315mm but the printer bed only 300 mm :(
As always, thank you for the review. Creality is pumping out a lot of printers, but it feels like they aren't supporting existing printers very well. I bought an Ender 3 S1 Pro this spring, and despite obvious problems in their firmware, there have been no updates from Creality. The ribbon cable that attaches the sprite is also an issue, as just using the printer breaks it, and the replacement parts have to come all the way from China, meaning a 2-3 week downtime for the printer. Do you have any insight on firmware options or spare parts options for the Ender 3 S1 Pro?
Great overview! I recently bought into the Creality scheme with the sonic pad. The add-on vastly improves this machine (this printer is garbage without it) and it is fast compared to other similar type 3D printers but slow versus say... paint drying, grass growing, walking to a store to pick-up whatever it is you need.
dual z should have been something they worked into this one at this price point, they nailed it on everything else but i would have liked to seen the dual z, it was the worst issue my original ender 5 had an the struts do help but at almost 4 yrs old its on its 2nd set of the struts so i figure its just going to be something that end up having to replace ever so often but the only other thing i think i would like to see from the new 5 s1 would have been corexy but i think they have that for there other printers so i can understand why this was not done. my oldest printer is my ender 5 an its still my go to printer when i need the best print quality out of my 10 fdm printers an if it needs more than it can handle then i go to resin but usually only have to use resin for smaller parts that have alot of details like a miniature or something like that. if i had to get rid of all my printers it would fall between my creality ender 5 3max or flsun qq-s pro so i may need to get rid of one of my other printers an get one of these machines an one of flsuns sr so i'll have something a little newer but im def a life time fan of creality just from my experience from my original ender 5, it still has its old 8bit board an only upgrade is the microswiss hotend but it has been a true work horse. does the 5 s1 come with the sonic pad?
Wouldn't ender 6 be a better deal by then? It has acrylic housing, bigger print volume, given you lose the sprite extruder but who haven't converted to direct Drive before.
I’ve enjoyed watching quite a few of your videos. I’m looking at the Ender 5 S1 and the Prusa i3 MKS+, do you think the Prusa is still the better option in terms of reliability and print quality? The extra speed is nice but my main preference is for consistent high quality prints.
I finally got through to Creality and find they are very lacking in customer service and still can give me no date for my printer but it is obviously not coming till next year and they won’t say when. They just say will send after Christmas and not even a sorry about the inconvenience. I would seriously consider when you review this product or any of their products you give a disclaimer to customer. To be honest I don’t think it will ever come and I will just be out the 500.
Please email me your order number and name, I will ask Creality for you, my email is auroratechchannel@gmail.com, you can simply forward me the order confirmation email.
would the fl v400 be a better option as klipper is standard as by the time you add the pad the cost would be similar, is it the same with all 3d printers that petg prints so slow in comparison, I dont know what to get but the stuff I have ideas for are for the food industry and was under the impression that petg was the way to go for indoor and outdoor. One of the days I can see you bring out your ultimate printer that will show the big firms whos boss.
Allot of great info. I'm new to klipper and sonic pad, so I was very happy to find your videos. I was wondering did you install the shaper on ender 5 s1 before you set up the speed tests in cura?
I seem to have a problem with my ender 5 s1 with a sonic pad The auto level thing does not seem to work because the probe keeps going off the left side of the tray/bed and throwing its level off over all by slamming the nozzle onto the bed it's even damaged the bed by leaving a little dent where it has happened And causes me to manually try and level it all over again
can you share the set up profile of printer and prints pls, beacuse i have multiplr issue wiht the same printer, some 3d models the g cose run properly and some not and i don't now why. thanks a lot
My biggest question that comes to mind after watching this vid, is can this bi-directional fan duct on this printer be added to other printers? I have the CR-10 Smart PRO, and would think it could benefit from this fan duct, but would love to know what you think about this question? Thanks for another great vid.
@@AuroraTech Excellent. I will look to buy one for my CR-10 Smart Pro. Was it a fairly simple upgrade, or did it become involved? Do you have a video of this upgrade? Lastly, where did you buy it from, as I've gone through Creality's entire site of upgrades and accessories, and it's not there. Even a search of it on their site shows zero results? Thanks for your help.