I think Miranda and Daniel would not get back together, but they would always get together for events regarding the kids, such as graduations and birthdays.
And that’s pretty realistic. Divorced parents don’t have to get back together. Sally and Robin had been through divorces and decided to keep it realistic. Marriages just don’t work out.
The ending is always a tear-jerker and plus it was FINALLY nice to see Miranda get off her high-horse and realize how much the both the children AND Daniel were suffering
She realized it in court when she was given sole custody of their children. Miranda also saw the role she played in her family's suffering and didn't try to talk this over with them with her plans to divorce in amicable terms. Despite Daniel pretending to be a 60-year-old woman, she knew he didn't do anything wrong and did love their children. Therefore, Miranda did the right thing and appeal to the courts to let them share joint custody with no supervised visits. She admitted this and apologized to him while at the studio.
jim hatten She may have been frigid, but had every right to divorce Daniel with how wreckless and unreliable he was and all the stress it came with it. The important thing is that they both learned how to become better people so they could compromise through the divorce and still let the children have their family.
Had he not quit over his concerns about a bird character smoking in a cartoon, Daniel wouldn't had his own children's show starring Mrs. Doubtfire from his boss, Lundy.
The original script had Daniel and Miranda getting back together at the end, but the director said he didn't want to give false hope to kids whose parents were separated, so they left it ambiguous. I'd like to think they stayed friends and understood the other more. Miranda was finally able to get off her high horse and understand that he and the kids needed each other, and Daniel being Mrs Doubtfire made him able to balance out being a fun/cool dad with being able to discipline them too. If you're an older Millennial, this movie really hits close to home
Yep. The original script also had Stu being revealed as a bad guy planning to send Lydia, Chris and Natalie off to an English boarding school. He was also seen talking badly about Mrs. Doubtfire and his plans to make Miranda fire her. They also had Daniel(in his normal appearance) at the restaurant confronting him for his actions in how he's treated his children, Mrs. Doubtfire and even himself. That he suspected the latter was a bad guy and Mrs. Doubtfire told him all about it. Miranda witnesses this exchange and sees Stu for the selfish man he is. Angered by this, she confronts him in how he's treated her children and her housekeeper. Miranda realized how right Mrs. Doubtfire was in not trusting Stu around the children. She tells him off that she will not marry him and that they're over. Miranda orders him to get out of her life at once. Afterwards, she apologizes to Daniel for her actions and wants to give their marriage another chance. Robin Williams and Sally Fields thought the original ending was to anti-climatic for the two to reconcile and remarry. Thus, they changed Stu into being a good man. Daniel and Miranda reconcile, while staying divorced. According to Mrs. Doubtfire, they were much better parents when they lived apart.
Woah!!! I never knew that!! I liked this ending way better! The ending is much more raw and real..... that is probably why this movie touched and continues to be a classic.
@@ladyfire44 When Pierce Brosnan was cast they had to change the character and makes him more suited to his personality and to make him more caring of the children.
Not just the director, Robin Williams and Sally Field (who were divorcees in real life too) also opposed the idea due to the 'don't want to give false hopes to children' reason; can't blamed them though since remained divorced was much more realistic.
This was one of my favorite movies as a kid with divorced parents, and this is all I wanted. Unfortunately our story ended very differently. My dad killed himself when he couldnt take it anymore. He had suffered from depression for much of his life. I was 15. Knowing that Robin Williams also killed himself makes watching this even harder. It is like a window into a parallel universe with less pain... To all parents and children suffering, please reach out to friends and mental health professionals and remember what is important.
@@wcthesecret i dont think so. i think she also has serious unresolved mental health issues and trauma. it has taken a lot of inner work to come to forgiveness though.
It is said that the doorway scene with Daniel standing in front of it but not entering was symbolism that was borrowed from the ending of the movie, "The Searchers." At the end of "The Searchers," there's a doorway that Ethan(John Wayne) does not enter with the other characters because he knows that he does not belong. They thought that would be a good way to illustrate divorce. The Hillard house doorway is supposed to represent a world that Daniel can't enter anymore because he no longer is part of it. He is only able to get through that doorway disguised as Mrs. Doubtfire. But now here in this scene, Daniel has finally accepted the divorce and does not enter the house even when invited to because he knows he doesn't belong and says he'll wait outside.
Oyyyyy vey ! Now that's over analyzing ! And completely wrong . First , the final court scene where his ice wife realizes he loves the kids ... she starts to realize he is a good dad ( and possibly still useful to her ) Then when he is at the door and she invites him inside ( see that look in her eyes ? ) That was her trying to take the initial steps at repairing the divorce and having him back in HER life as well. He refused to come into the house as a finial " see ya , don't need ya bitch " statement .
This movie always cuts me very deep because I went through a very similar childhood separation of my parents, only mine was uglier and at a younger age.. thankfully my parents followed the very same path as a the film as buried the hatchet, and became "co-parents," as they called it. I'm all grown up now and they remain friends to this day. They did a great job..
Man every time i watch clips of movies starring the great Robin Williams it's like I believe he's very much alive still and have tears of joy, then I read the comments of "RIP Robin" etc. and it hits home pretty hard that i bust out in tears of sadness.
The ending is pretty much open to interpretation, which is a reason why I love this movie. Personally, I believe Stu would remain out of the picture and quite possibly Daniel and Miranda will get back together. I think Daniel learned his lesson of being a more responsible dad instead of the "all-fun dad" as well as a more caring husband for his wife instead of behaving like an extra kid for her. I also think Miranda genuinely loved him, but was simply tired of him being only a dad and not a husband.
Exactly. I think the whole movie is pretty much him and her getting on the track they needed to be at the beginning of the divorce. Yes, he being a more responsible husband. But also her being more trusting of the person she choose to start a family with in the first place.
To me, both are happy in their own lives. Daniel and Miranda's marriage failed, but they are still life partners because of their love for the children. With Stu, Miranda could start over and have a lasting relationship with him. It's likely that Daniel found another love in a woman who truly loves him and accepts the children as part of their lives.
I miss robin so much he was the best.He brought out the best in all of us. There were many dark days for me. But when I would watch any of his movies. It would cheer me up quickly to keep going in life's troubles. Thank you so much Robin Williams R.I.P
While its great that Daniel gets to see his kids, you can tell he is still in love with Sally and it hurts him knowing that this isn't how a family is supposed to be. Shitty situation.
I think it's more of a bittersweet moment for Daniel. While he may be upset over the divorce, he realizes how happy Miranda is with her life and how much she's in love with Stu. Hence if he hadn't become Mrs. Doubtfire, Daniel would never had gotten his own life back on track by getting an apartment, cleaning up after himself and a steady job in the studio. The only good thing is that he and Miranda did reconcile. She apologized for her behavior and appealed to the judge to overturn his decision to allow Daniel joint custody of their children. It was the only thing he wanted from the divorce: to have the afterschool hours with Lydia, Chris and Natalie.
I really like the small but crucial detail that Lydia is not looking at her little sister hugging their dad when she is smiling, but that she is clearly looking at her mother as the oldest child approving of her decision to let their father back into their lives without supervision. A small look that shows character growth from both the mother and the daughter.
As a kid; I used to imagine they would come back and everything would end happily ever after. But as a 31 year old... I see both Daniel and Miranda had the most toxic of the toxic relationships and nothing would ever work again.
I like to think they became closer as friends after this point though, and got along well. Miranda probably married Stu and Daniel might have started dating a theater or creative arts girl, but they had a mutual respect for each other and co parented
I think this scene can help children come to terms with their parents divorcing. I think this will teach them that they are not responsible for their parents not loving each other anymore and just because the parents don't love each other anymore does not mean that they do not love the kids.
I really didn’t appreciate this movie enough as a child. It was the first movie that I think really challenged me. I was expecting them to get back together like other divorced/separated/broken-up couples I’d seen in movies. Even if it seems there’s a slight chance they might do so here, it seems heavily implied they won’t. But what’s best is it doesn’t really matter. At this point in the movie they’re both content and understanding with each other. They could potentially rebuild a relationship now that they’ve grown and communicated with each other, but there’s no drive or obligation. This was the first movie that showed me sometimes people work better when they’re apart. Daniel and Miranda could be the best versions of themselves for their children when they weren’t in conflict with each other. (Also, it was the first movie to show me a potential stepparent that wasn’t evil incarnate)
Throughout the movie both Daniel and Miranda thought they were doing what was best for the children by deciding for themselves when in actual fact it was for their own personal needs. Daniel goes behind his ex-wife's back and lies to many people to get what he wants. Miranda takes all control away from Daniel and believes what she is doing is better for her kids when they are miserable. However, they both learn that despite that they are not partners in marriage anymore, they are still partners as parents
It was Mrs. Doubtfire that taught Daniel to balance between a fun-loving dad and a strict parent. Miranda was able to relax and be a fun-loving mom after seeing what he had done for her as Mrs. Doubtfire.
My Parents divorced when I was little which was hard for me to understand, but things were and still are happy in my life. Because in all these years I have them both in my life and though I live with my Mum, I see my Dad a lot which is lovely. They still like each other and get on well as friends which to me is luckier than most kids with divorced parents. When I watched this Movie as a kid, it was a way of helping me understand it a bit more.
In my youth, I watched this movie for the laughs. Cracked me the hell up. Didn't appreciate the gravity of this scene until I was married with kids and on the verge of divorce. Now I am pretty sure I caused sea levels to rise after watching this.
although Daniel and Miranda are not married anymore they will still see each other for the kids graduations and birthday parties and they can most probably be civil to each other.
Anyone notice how after Daniel says thank you miranda shuts the door but yet the kids still upstairs getting stuff ready as Daniel told em to you'd think she'd wait for kids to come down and say bye to em or summat.
He was a real father who loved and cared about kids and Miranda was wrong to shield him away from them, how many dead beat fathers we have today that don’t care about their kids and never spent time with them or raised them and it’s been going on for years
Being a parent is never easy and both were at fault Miranda trying to keep there children away because he wasn’t responsible but he loves his children with everything he has and yes Daniel couldn’t hold a real job sometimes there not always for us so I guess being a nanny housekeeper did shape him up to his duties and proved he can work provide and sacrifice and love his children definitely not a wise move to lie but he made up for it Miranda did to and they realize both were wrong and came to agreement for there children.
The original ending had Daniel and Miranda getting back together but Sally and Robin pushed for this ending coz the original ending would give kids of divorced parents false hope that their parents will get back together. Also, this ending shows that even though they aren’t together everything will be fine.
A part of me wishes that Daniel convinced Stu to give Miranda another chance. Stu was genuinely kind to Miranda and adored the kids; so they'd be supported on both sides.
Every child needs a farther... To Me it's something where there is no arguments, no pain, no worry. Knowing that if your parents cant be together they will always be with you. In the end you deep down love each other, maybe not live under the same roof but be part of their future. Give them the opportunity to love one another it's amazing what a family can do.
I disagree....if the father is an utter scumbag, like mine is, they don't need them. I cut him out of my life 15 years ago and have not regretted it for one second. I'm so much happier as a result of it
I'd like to think by looking at both Daniel and Miranda were looking at each other especialy when in the ending part, watching Mrs. Doubtfire on the tv, that she was feeling love towards him again. So I think they could of got together again if a second film was to be released or and extended ending cut.
No. Sally Field and Robin Williams explicitly told the producers that they did not want their characters getting back together because it would create false hope for children of real life divorced families. They wanted to keep the ending more realistic. That's why Mrs Doubtfires line "Sometimes they get back together. And sometimes they don't."
I wish the parents got back together. Maybe it gives kids “false hope” about their parents getting back together but it also could encourage parents to realize that it’s always better work through your problems rather than break up.
Well Daniel does make a point in this movie to his daughter on why he and Miranda couldn’t be back together, I think it was a deleted scene. Daniel explained that sure they’d still be a family, but it would be a forced one, and he even added “even I’m not that good of an actor to pretend everyday as if everything is perfect”. Sometimes there are problems you can’t just fix and the compromises are too demanding for one another. I think it’s important to teach kids that divorce doesn’t always means it’s the end of a family, but rather the birth of a different kind of family, not an easy one, but still a family nonetheless. You can’t force love, even if it’s for the sake of the children. I’ve seen families that tried to hold out without a divorce, and let me tell you, it isn’t pretty.
Everyone seems to make Miranda out as the villain of the movie but if you pay attention both she and Daniel were both right and they were both wrong at the same time. She was responsible but too tightly wound and he was loving and fun but too loose. They both grew by the end and thats whats important.
The kids Will Go through emotional trauma, imagine worrying about courts like that, theres no way they could not get involved. Their welfare comes first after the mess. It takes parents to grow mature and stable emotionally and mentally like Miranda and Daniel thinking whats best for their children.
In the original script Miranda and Daniel were suppose to get back together at the end of the film but Robin Williams, Sally Field, and Chris Columbus declined it in order to teach kids about divorce.
Yep. Stu was originally supposed to be a bad guy and planning to ship the kids off to boarding school in England. This lead to a serious confrontation between him and Daniel.
Ive watched Mrs Doubfire so many times and 4 things i wanna say.. the mother is an absolute guys worst nightmare, shes a looney, off her rocker and needs investigating. Perfect example of the mother using the kids as a weapon
I read somewhere, that Robin Williams and Sally Field did not like the original ending, which was that they get back together at the end. They wanted children to see the potential reality that in fact, people DO NOT get back together, likewise not creating a false sense of hope by using the original planned ending.
He wasn't supporting her as her husband thru him first in this and after she got home from obviously a stressful day at work thru her and instead of being a kid with their kids thru him so I don't like how she's made out to be being the evil villain in this movie thru her against him thru her and against their kids thru her even but I think she could have given him a second chance to be being her husband she needed to be being loved by and supported by thru her and when he proved it to her in disguise thru him that he could indeed be making her his priority put their marriage first thru him even and instead of their kids thru him before her.
At the ending of Mrs.Doubtfire I'm so happy that Daniel & Miranda are back together again so they don't have to argue anymore and so that's Daniel don't have to dress up as Mrs.Doubtfire anymore that's it that's the end of the movie 🙂👍
I’m glad he rejected her offer to come inside. It looks like he learned way more than she did. But how the heck did the end up together in the first place is the biggest question
even though she did offer him to come in, there’s a reason he didn’t in my honest opinion: during the divorce process, the only way he was allowed in the house was under the disguise as Mrs. Doubtfire, since he was under the court ruling. at the time, he still couldn’t get over it. but now that he and miranda made amends, he’s accepted what he’s done, even before the divorce, and decided to respectfully not to re enter the house, even after miranda invited him in.
My daughter won’t ever hug me in front of her mother. She doesn’t dare even come with me when her mother is there to make the exchange and she is the same age as Natty here. This scene hits home too hard.
Not quite the end scene the end scene has a much stronger message for divorsed or seperated parents, if you can't remember what that was click this link to watch ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-81Ns7ZR0UgA.html
She went back to the judge and appealed the decision by convincing him that Daniel didn't masquerade around town as a 60-year-old Scottish nanny to hurt anyone. He just wanted to spend time with their children. This was enough for the judge to overturn his decision and allow Daniel joint custody of the children.
Everyone thinks the character of Daniel is so warm and loving, but look at his anger and passive aggressive traits. He comes late to childrens' recitals, rips off the Mercedes logo from her boyfriend's car, convinces the neighbor to put dog urine on her plants thereby killing off her lovely flowers right next to his kids' home, almost chokes boyfriend to death with his chili pepper prank, and so on. When he talks to the neighbor, his anger manifests itself in undertones, and it is vicious. Not a nice guy, our 'lovable fool' Daniel. Robin gave this character many dimensions and some depth, and okay it was supposed to be funny in the movie and it was. But... would you take a husband with those mean streaks as your partner in life? True character comes out under stress. And Daniel is the kind of man I would run away from. He is petty, insecure, clingy, has no boundaries, thinks nothing of vandalism and harming others, lies to everyone, disguises himself and worms his way back into his ex's house, ... good grief! Obviously the last born. Miranda is the first born. Takes her duties seriously, pays the bills, works hard. Daniel is a goof off, does not work, does not pay the bills, and sabotages others.
I think that he is a good man that is also flawed. I don't really remember the entire movie, but I know why they divorced, and one of the reasons is what you said, he runs from responsibility. But he loves his children dearly, and I think that in the end he earned the right to take care of them daily, because he learned that you also need to be stern with the kids to raise them well. In the beginning of the movie he did not get that, and I think that is why his ex didn't want him watching them in the afternoons. Because they would get no schoolwork done and she'd have to take care of it when she comes home tired from work. He was a really bad husband/parent at the beginning though, one of the main problems being that not only did he leave all the heavy stuff to his wife, but he also undermined her parenting in front of the kids so often that they simply lost their respect for her, and that is not healthy for them.
Yep. Maybe it's why Miranda was attracted to Stu Dunmeyer because she saw in him a good man and a responsible parent that would help her raise the children. She lost a lot of respect for Daniel over time. He not only didn't keep a steady job, but also he had also been shirking his responsibilities as a parent and undermining her parenting to the point he taught their children to lose respect for her. The judge made it clear to Daniel that he's irresponsible and Miranda has sole custody of the children, during the custody battle hearing. He also points out that in order to be allowed joint custody, Daniel must provide a suitable home for the children and keep a steady job. He fulfilled the requirements of the judge's orders by getting an apartment, cleaning it up to make it suitable for the children and has a steady job at a studio. It was his secret job as a housekeeper in the Mrs. Doubtfire alter ego that challenged him the most. After being used to being the fun dad for a long time, Daniel was forced to face up to his neglected responsibility as a parent and discipline his children when they misbehave. He put himself in Miranda's shoes and realized how stressed out she had been in having to take on the responsibility of being the strict parent to them. It was through Mrs. Doubtfire that Daniel finally found balance between being a fun-loving dad and a responsible parent. The divorce may have been hard on him, but he had to learn responsibility the hard way. Miranda also had to learn to balance between being a strict parent and having fun with her children. In the end, she and Daniel were able to reconcile. They had become better parents through the divorce. That was the only thing Mrs. Doubtfire was right on. Parents can be better people to their children if they're not living together and get along
@@lukelichtenthal5407 Drama King aren't you? We are discussing a movie character, not the actor who played him. You have trouble telling the difference between them? Get down to earth from your fantasy world.
No. The movie ended it on a good note with the divorce. It's through it all, Daniel learned how to balance between being a fun-loving father and a responsible parent through Mrs. Doubtfire. Miranda learned that not everything in life has to be serious and she can compromise between being a strict parent and having fun.
@@andrewguerra9343 I'd say he was wonderful at certain aspects of fatherhood, financial support is a big facet of it, which I think he failed miserably but seemed like he was on his way to making inroads on
She was remorseful because she realized how much she's hurt Daniel and their children. At home when Lydia, Chris and Natalie confronted her for breaking their family up, Miranda saw the role she played in her family's suffering. The remorse in her grew because she didn't try to talk this over with them with her plans to divorce in amicable terms. Despite Daniel pretending to be a 60-year-old woman, she knew he didn't do anything wrong and did love their children. She also realized that he had been trying to get his own life back together and be a better father to their children. Therefore, Miranda did the right thing and appeal to the courts to let them share joint custody with no supervised visits. She admitted this and apologized to him while at the studio.
She could see firsthand how broken up the kids were about Mrs Doubtfire not being a part of their lives anymore (and that's also when Daniel could only see them supervised for an hour a week). I guess seeing all he did as mrs doubtfire made her lighten up and realize that Daniel was able to be a responsible parent too
