ENDLESS BUFFS!! ...is Phastos a perfect fit or a fail?? 

Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised with the Auto deck.

That’s pretty interesting. I guess the theme is zoo For the month.

Hmmm your comment made me think of a Phastos Thanos deck

It looks annoying keeping your hand empty enough for the play to be worth

@@BOKOam I have been enjoying him in a Thanos Destroy deck

It looks like he applies the effects on each card separately so I doubt he will get nerfed because of the RNG

@Commentar1000 it's not done separately it's 1 or the other. My deck only runs him 1 time and every card gets the same effect. Seriously when I can have my deck be half 5's and 6's and still dominate most decks that's a major problem that needs to be addressed. Granted the only card that counters my deck is Mobius due to my deck being a cost reduction style.

Would you reveal your deck?

@@greatjensen yeah I will post it

@greatjensen 1 cost Uatu, 2 cost Jeff, 3 cost Phastos and Gladiator, 4 cost War Machine, 5 cost Professor X, Sera, Black Bolt, Mockingbird, and Stature 6 cost Thanos and Sasquatch. It's actually 7 cards of 5 or 6 cost It's all based on cost reduction plays though.

Yeah, turning 1-drops into zeros for a ridiculous turn 6 is pretty gross.

Maybe I just tend to overthink stuff, but he really screws with me when I play against him. I tend to math out my turn 6s with a couple combinations of cards I think the opponent is likely to play, but that's so much harder when I don't know whether they have extra power or enough discounts to play another card. It feels like I play worse when I'm up against Phastos - I don't know how true that is, but it FEELS that way for 100% sure.

I skipped makkari for phastos and arishem

if you’re planning on picking up arishem u need to pick up Phastos bc he’s perfect with arishem

I already made the choice to use tokens for Arishem so blew it here instead. Saving the next weeks for Copy Cat.

If you're a sucker for random, Phastos should be right up your alley! :P

​@hounds556 Idk seems like unless you draw him at a decent curve he's not going to have a chance to do much. And the draw is already low with Arishem adding 12 cards to deck. I do like the idea though. 🤔

Nerf super skrull 🤬

He has no place in any decks He's supposed to make sure you get your combo cards but he also needs you to have the early power, it doesn't really fit into any combo deck because most of em don't have that much early power and you wont get much out of him in a deck with Early power like zoo

@@samialivand1511 Ik bro but he’s such a cool character thought they could give him a decent ability:(.

I feel they should just rework all the draw cards, since they always tell us drawing is sooo op.. 😅

@@samialivand1511 I have him waiting in a deck for Arishem. That seems like the only viable place for him.

Legit in the same boat, didn’t have Corvus so ig that’s a win, also got Blob and That Ham Variant which I actually like.. despite what people are saying I’m still very excited about getting him. 17 away

@@SalemSettoyeahhh same I got Corvus for the first time which is a win… not sure if I want Phastos now after watching this video 😅 but the fact I’ve already spent 3 keys to get him means I kinda have to get him now…

Yeah it's been toxic for a long time. It's the wink that does it. It's belittling.

Same i used to always use here to compliment a good play, im sad people decided it's an insult

The Auto Deck uses that. Thor + Jane Foster + Grandmaster.

Absolutely, the minus 1 cost and the plus 1 energy will let you play a lot of cards

Only reason I snatched him 🤣

They drew sera as their draw for turn, and then they drew the makari from the asgard, and then it ran out of their hand

the closest explanation here would be the asgard drew them the makkari and makkari triggered her effect after the asgard draw. perhaps location effects happen first even for the end of turn stuff

yes "wherever this is"

Better on brood specifically (4 power broodlings)

@@Kniightisa Abs man has a more natural curve

I have been using Grandmaster in a more hand buff Surfer list , it's fun when it works 😜 . Chavez , Forge , Nakia and of course Phastos , along with Wong Odin and Lad , Brood ,Shaw, Majik .

Makkari is hogwash

Not really no one was down on makkari it was just not worth picking up unless you wanted her...

legit what I was saying out loud while watching lol

I'm assume you don't have shaw then? Shaw is a staple in Silver Surfer's deck.. so it's a hard choice to replace anything.

Hazmat + luke cage

don't mean to be a dick but you've "noticed" that doubling an effect is better than the effect on it's own??

@@KolbyNS Yes. Because his effect on it's own is not massively game changing, especially on Turn 3. The types of cards you play with him to truly take advantage of him usually mean you're using HUGE cards, so +2 power or -1 cost really aren't big deals. He needs a double up or to at least not be the only method of empowering cards to be truly effective. Otherwise he's rather unreliable. When you use Chavez, you know which card you're hitting. When you use Okoye, you know the whole deck is getting 1 effect. With Phastos you don't know which cards got which hit. That's why using it once can seem pointless while doubling it or more really makes a difference. For instance I put him on Sinister London, got 2 hits. Then put down Absman and got a third. Out popped a 1 cost/16 power Mockingbird from my deck (her cost was partially due to the cloned cards).

@@RoadWulf sure, doesn't seem that revolutionary of an "observation" i mean isn't Wong the king of doubling effects? Isn't abs man ? It's like saying i've noticed that playing wong is good for on reveals, or that using abs man after surfer or brood gets you a stronger board. let alone the fact that doubling phastos' effect (provided you have the optimal draw) will give you this buffed effect only on 2 cards... i mean it seems pretty obvious to me but hey who am i to say what you are allowed to find surprising

Like any card game people see the absolute best case scenario and get hung up on that being the norm.

Yeah but competitively I can see why you wouldn't be excited for the card. It's why if you could gurnateee okoye on turn 2 it would be the most busted card in the game.

@user-tr1ui4fx1g He's just like Mr. Negative, Hope Summers, Elsa, Mobius, Pixie. It's just stupid people judging him so harshly for no reason.

@Khay-77 yeah I can see that. However I will probably be saving my keys for another card. Not even arishem because the other cards in that cache are not good.

​@@Khay-77that's not harshly wth 😂😂😂

But that’s why Phastos helps so much, pmay my things earlier

i always wonder why hope isn't more popular in surfer decks but i never play surfer decks so i haven't actually tried it

​@@at0mlyshe doesn't really help that much aside from turn 5. You play her turn 3, play a 3 drop turn 4, two 3 drops turn 5, and two 3 drops turn 6. Overall you're still wasting energy when instead you could play a better 3 cost like shaw or brood on turn 3. Also she only helps if you have her by turn 3

i agree. next time i cook with surfer i might try to fit a couple extra 1 or 2 cost cards

@@CheeseGhosts Yea just draw Phastos by turn 3 every game *and* get the cost reduction every time simple.

shaw is must for surfer to be competitive

Hazmat + luke cage combo

Well, no, not so far. He's actually trending towards bad, not just mediocre like I expected. He has a 49.7% win rate, -.02 cube rate on average. And that's being bolstered by stuffing him in good decks. His best performing deck is a Surfer list with a .33 cube rate, but the same list WITHOUT him has a .63 cube rate. He's making it NOTABLY worse.

aren't the odds of drawing him on 3 exponentially lower with arishem??

@@KolbyNSyes.

Though technically Arishem's cards added to deck would mean Phastos' ability affects more cards, it doesn't change the number of cards you draw meaning the actual number of cards affected by Phastos that you can play doesn't change.

@@ryanryan8849 ya that is what I meant though I do see how it might be tough to get him

@@X3N43 what I'm saying is that Arishem has functionally no synergy with Phastos.

rest in peace okoye in that case

@@mrmurloc6167 Not really. Running them in the same deck is pretty strong. But a Series 5 card should outperform a Series 2.

​@@faceman3585it's called unbalanced

@@Nama-rz8kv Do you have the card? Have you played the card? If you are not able to play him on turn 3, he's almost useless. If played on turn 3, he is consistently a 3/5 while also discounting a card 1 energy. Out of the 20 games I played with him, I was able to play him on curve 3 times! The overwhelming majority of my games, he was either a 3/5 or a 3/3 that discounted a card. That's extremely underwhelming for a Series 5 card!

Yeah having to play him on 3 doesn't seem that worth it

@@MrBigCheeeseyou think they’ll bring him down to a 2 cost? I hope

We wish 😂😂😂😂

another 3 drop. not much thinking there…

Big 3 Drop but Shaw is the best card for surfer next to Brood.

maybe gambit

Destroyer

Gladiator

2 cost would be busted

@@Rob0_ play him on 3 play wong on 4 serra on 5 and hazmat with cage or surfer and if you weaved in a magik add mystique for a turn 7 dump in the mix , deck is dead to cosmo and enchantress but otherwise just murders oponenrs generating stupid numbers or massive negative numbers for your oponent depending on if you draw cage or not

If you're very lucky keep drawing him every game😂😭

Yeah, playing Phastos on turn 2 is quite the high-roll, but not going to happen much.

Abs man is way better on curve