"Endless Celestial Sex" | Inside the Wacky World of Mormon Beliefs

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@activelyperformingmitosis 7 месяцев назад

I was raised mormon, I'm 17 now so I have no clue what they teach adults, but I haven't ever really heard anything about polygamy or "endless celestial sex" from the church itself. They do have a weird obsession with raising kids and misogyny. My parents were devout mormon fanatics so I've absorbed quite a bit of information, and I'll use this chance to infodump So mormons still do believe that you can become a god in life after death. Generally it is taught that both Heavenly Father and Mother lived on their own earth, and did all the steps that mormons teach today to gain their godhood. This is the first time I'm hearing about heavenly polygamy, but I assume any mention of polygamy was dropped when "The Family: A Proclamation to the World" came out in 1995. In this, it was stated that a marriage must be between a man and a woman. Anyways, so Heavenly Father and Mother passed their trial, became gods, and built this universe. They live near Kolob, and there are actually tons of other "earths" with our heavenly siblings also having their mortal test. That's what they refer to this life as, a test. There's only one Jesus though, so none of the other earths got a Jesus. We're just special little snowflakes for that one. I don't believe it is taught that God is Adam? I think he's his own guy now. So we all pitched in to make earth, Lucifer became Satan, 1/3 of heaven's population will never get a body. I have never heard of the neutral sides being cursed with dark skin? There's a whole separate cursing for that later down the line though. So everything was made in 7 days blah blah blah, Adam and Eve sinned which is taught that it had to happen, and was part of God's plan. WHICH! This has always messed me up, God is omnipotent, knows past present and future, and yet, we still have agency? Like, the choices we make matter, but God said we were gonna do that anyways? Its set in stone but it's not its just weird and paradoxical. Anyways Adam and Eve got banned from the garden, and also because Eve sinned that's why pregnancy is painful. It was a punishment. Later on, Adam dies and is actually the angel Michael. Because we all have heavenly names that are different from our earthly ones. You gotta keep track of all those, its tough. The garden of Eden is believed to have been physically removed from the earth and will come back in the end times, in Missouri. Because that's where it is located, apparently. Right so the Book of Mormon begins around 600 BC, in Jerusalem. Nobody likes prophets at all, so God's gonna throw a temper tantrum and destroy it. An old guy named Lehi prays on behalf of Jerusalem, and sees a vision, and then becomes a prophet. Naturally, Jerusalem didn't like that, and bullied him for his fever dream so Lehi and his family left. They were pretty rich, but didn't take anything with them. So they go over generally by the red sea- The family consists of Lehi, his wife Sariah, and their four sons Laman, Lemuel, Sam, and Nephi, who liked to journal. Eventually they have to go back to get some Brass plates from another rich guy, and God tells Nephi who's more righteous than his brothers, that killing is okay sometimes. So Nephi stabs the rich guy who is drunk, steals the plates, and borderline kidnaps rich guy's servant. Then Ishmael and his family also joins them. Now Lehi has another vision, which is thrown around A TON in primary and sunday school (the church classes for the younger kids and teens), which is about the tree of life and the iron rod. Long story short, The Iron Rod is the Word of God, and you have to hold fast to get your fruit from the tree of life and people will be laughing at you all while you do so. After that Nephi has a second record we call the Book of Lehi, which had more of his visions and sacred things and all that, which Joseph Smith lost, and as punishment is now sealed and cannot be added to the Book of Mormon. They go on and on about prophecies and have a ton more kids in the wilderness and then one day they get a really funky looking compass which sits outside their tent, but it only works if everyone's being good. Nephi builds a boat, they go to the Americas, which mormons believe they landed in Chile, Lehi dies, and then they live in relative peace for about 40 years before the "Nephites" and "Lamanites" Split off from each other. Nephites were hard workers, and built cities, and lived righteously, and the Lamanites got cursed (here it is). The actual quote from the scriptures on the website: "And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them. And thus saith the Lord God: I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities. And cursed shall be the seed of him that mixeth with their seed; for they shall be cursed even with the same cursing. And the Lord spake it, and it was done." The mormons just collectively choose to ignore it, and pretend it isn't there. Later down the line they have a king after being explicitly told not to, but it's okay because he's a good king and also a prophet, and stood in a tower and spoke for multiple days. People gathered in tents and that was like the first General Conference or something. It's like constantly being compared to general conference in primary. Then you have Alma who was an important guy. Lots about him. Did normal prophet things. Preached here, preached there, gets thrown in prison, prison gets smited. There was also Ammon, who I remember vividly, because he cut off like 7 arms- and there was an activity lesson, where we re-enacted it sort of? there were like arm-shaped cutouots of paper but like???? I'm 12?? what are you teaching me? That is how you are reaching godhood? Cut off people's arms? Anyways Then the Nephites had to go fight so 2000 young men, which were assumed to be 12-15 years old, went to fight and none of them died. Yay! We are supposed to be like them. Whole song about it too. So Christ comes and visits the Americas, who had just had the worst three days of their lives, because after Christ died, there was like Earthquakes and just all sorts of bad stuff, tons of people died, mountains flattened and new ones made, basically the whole geography changed. Then he lets everyone touch his hands, and leaves. Then people get mad at each other, and nearly kill each other off, and Mormon takes all the different individual records and puts them together. Hence why its called the book of Mormon. He throws in one at the end, which talks about the tower of Babel, which was a huge tower people made to try to climb to heaven but God didn't like that so he made everyone speak a different language except for Jared and his family. They also built boats and sailed to America, but these ones had glowing rocks that God touched himself. The Brother of Jared, or Mahonri Moriancumer, but just brother of Jared to be easier, prayed for god to touch the rocks and because he was a good boy he saw god's hand. 1/2

@activelyperformingmitosis 7 месяцев назад

So Book of Mormon is now all on the Golden plates, and his buried in Cumorah, in Palmyra New York. (Its basically a tourist attraction now, my family went there a few years ago) Joseph Smith finds the plates at 14, has to translate without letting anyone see the plates, gets bullied out of multiple states, and the Mormons journey to Utah. Fun fact, Mormon Youth ages 14-18 I believe, will every other year or so, have the opportunity to participate in 'Trek', in which youth spend a number of days hiking, and roleplaying as those mormons who went to Utah. They are assigned 'families' and push handcarts and the whole shebang. Its not actually really commonly taught all that goes down in Utah (Probably because they'd rather bury it, after the things I've discovered). But the church in Utah is now more of a culture than a religion. I spent two years growing up there, where there was ONE kid in my school who wasn't mormon because his Grandma wasn't. He was totally bullied. He was a great kid though, real nice. Anyways the mormons have a whole thing about the future, where they will get more scriptures, too many to physically carry to church, there will be "wars and rumors of wars" blah blah blah second coming, and afterwards all the righteous people live on earth for a bit. The Holy Ghost will be the last person born. Then, the earth will be translated, or basically made celestial, and shoot through space to take it's place next to Kolob. As for the afterlife, When you die, you well essentially be sent to a waiting room for judgement day. If you are righteous, you are resurrected. If not, you are sent to outer darkness, your punishment is regret for eternity. If you had not heard about the church, you are sent to spiritual prison, BUT, you have a chance to get saved, if your ordinances are done. This is, baptism, Endowment, all that. So, living relatives of these dead people carry out baptisms for the dead, if you are 12 or older. I'm not sure what the requirements for Endowment is. This is the only way to save them. If you were good, you are sorted out into three tiers. Telestial, Terrestrial, and Celestial. Celestial is the one everyone aims for, as that is where God lives, and that is where you can become a god. Terrestrial is where Jesus lives, and Telestial is the lowest of the good kingdoms. The stars, the moon, and the sun, which you can find engraved on the temple. Mormons do not believe in hell. The steps for getting to is first, having faith in Jesus Christ, a testimony. Then repentance. Then you are to get baptized, at the age of 8 generally. They ask you if you want to, but if you grew up in a highly concentrated mormon area, or a devout mormon household like I did, the choice feels like more of a rhetorical question than an actual choice. Like, of course I'm going to get baptized, everyone gets baptized when they turn 8. Its why I'm allowed to have such a big party this year, because I'm getting baptized. Its just expected that you say yes before you even get to the question part so you do. Right after you get baptized you get the Gift of the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost CAN talk to people, but the gift of the holy ghost means he is with you always. Essentially, it's the gut feeling, or also described as a whisper you have to truly listen to hear. When you turn 12, you graduate from primary and have the chance to hold a temple recommend. The requirements haven't changed from the ones in this video. Once you have your temple recommend, you can do baptisms for the dead. The youth regularly go out as a group to all do it. You use the church's record keeping website to find 10-20 names without a ordinance done, print it out, and bring it to the temple, where there is the person, who's body is essentially being used as that person's body. Only the men can baptize you, and only recently were women allowed to be witnesses for baptisms. I don't know anything about the marriage ceremony, but I didn't see one hidden camera footage and that looked culty as hell. Anyways, for mormon media, I can't recommend enough the "My turn on Earth" Musical. I grew up with that thing on my family's VHS player and it basically is an explanation of the mormon Plan of Salvation for kids. Songs are kinda bangers though, ignoring the religious aspect of it. I hope this explanation of mormon stuff can be found helpful, lol There's probably a lot of stuff I left out or forgot but this is a somewhat basic summary of it all

@lilknox2225 7 месяцев назад

I AIN'T READING ALLAT. 🗣

@belogical3961 7 месяцев назад

Have you ever seen somebody that was doing something that you felt was really bad. When you looked at them, did they appear delightful to you? That is the curse. A skin of blackness is a spiritual thing. You don't have to trust me but there's plenty of white people covered in a skin of blackness. A lot of this video is BS, in the way they try to portray Mormonism and their beliefs, is laughable, but this is what they're putting out for the rest of the world. And maybe they thought it was disrespectful but even in Isaiah seven women will want to have the name of one man. So don't act like polygamy isn't a thing in the Bible and these people just don't understand who God is and they mock him. They even laughed at something that is actually quite funny. I actually want to diss the person that made this video when they laughed. Because to me, that's just a weak man. That's not even a man IMO. The one that's scared to raise a kid even in this economy We need men to rise up and freaking raise their kids no matter what quit being a p**** like the guy in this video. And maybe some of them believe Jesus took wives but that was never in official church cannon. Just like this video claims that God has sex to create spirit children. . . because Joseph Smith said God never had the power to create the spirits of men, because they are eternal, so obviously this video is flawed. And so is the world's views on the actual gospel of Jesus Christ. And yes, satan gives this video a thumbs up. You know it, thanks for sharing and trying to clarify. Maybe you hope it isn't true, but God isn't done with you my friend.

@activelyperformingmitosis 7 месяцев назад

@@lilknox2225 you don't have to? I was simply taking the opportunity to rant about what was thrown at me as a kid a hundred times over and get it out of my system ^-^

@ericr3878 7 месяцев назад

@@activelyperformingmitosis Celestial polygamy is effectively practiced by the current prophet Russell M Nelson. He remarried in the temple after his first wife died so he's sealed for time and eternity to two women.

@stilltoomanyhats 6 месяцев назад

"Endless celestial sex" sounds like it should be the name of a 70s smooth jazz album

@ebikecnx7239 6 месяцев назад

"White and delightsome", better than "Donny and Marie"!

@therealsincerelyyours 6 месяцев назад

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@marcopedro2017 6 месяцев назад

More like a porn parody

@chargree 6 месяцев назад

That is an interesting observation. I was thinking a 70s disco band.

@valhalla7408 6 месяцев назад

“I’m a little bit white, I’m a little bit delightsome, we’re gonna have endless celestial sex … “ = a _banger_

@pokeslob 6 месяцев назад

The basic reason we don’t consider Mormons (or JWs) to be Christian is because the absolute minimum requirement to *be* Christian is to believe in the Trinity. You said it yourself, the Mormon god is fundamentally different from the Christian God.

@brettmajeske3525 6 месяцев назад

That seems strange since the trinity is a post biblical belief dating to around 300 AD. No one in the New Testament writings preached the trinity, so none of the original Apostles were Christian by that standard.

@pokeslob 6 месяцев назад

@@brettmajeske3525 the Trinity was defined in the post-biblical period, but the belief is throughly biblical and apostolic-even if they didn’t have the same vocabulary.

@dominikdurkovsky8318 4 месяца назад

@@brettmajeske3525 Genesis 1:1," Before there was Abraham, I am" , ending of the gospel of Matthew,...

@brettmajeske3525 4 месяца назад

@@dominikdurkovsky8318 That only speaks to the pre existence of deity, nothing what so ever to do with the specific doctrines of the trinity. If the Hebrew Bible talked about the trinity wouldn't Jews be Trinitarian?

@dominikdurkovsky8318 4 месяца назад

John 1:1 (there was no pronoun after the word "was")

@shadowfax1552 Месяц назад

I love how the beginning is the plot of Superman 💀

@vihangahiggoda5101 15 дней назад

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

@jeffs4483 7 дней назад

Ex Mormon here. Thank you for exposing these frauds.

@eroman2803 6 месяцев назад

Not a Mormon or ex-Mormon here but I have DEEPLY studied their religion. To clarify one point, yes, the doctrine that you can't enter the priesthood if you're black has been rescinded, but the racist teaching behind that original teaching has not disappeared (descendants of Ham being black). Also, from what I can tell they still believe that "less good" spirit children enter the world as black people. I know this because I saw this short from the channel Mormon Stories where someone recounts an African Mormon dad getting mad at a Mormon teacher for saying he was dark skinned because he was "less virtuous in the Pre-existence" (pre-existence being the time you're a spirit child before you come to earth with a physical body).

@brettmajeske3525 6 месяцев назад

While it would not surprise me that there are still Mormon who believe past theories, Bruce R McConkie formally rejected his previous speculation back in 1978 during an address at BYU. They were disavowed again multiple times since, including in a manual for Seminary and Institute teachers in 2004 and in the Gospel Topic Essays in 2013. Doing a search of past Mormon General Conferences and officially published manuals and handbooks does not find either of those common folk traditions. Mostly the belief can be traced by third party publications like the Journal of Discourses, Doctrines of Salvation, and Mormon Doctrine. The first was published by George Watts and originally printed by Lion Press, the last two were published by Bookcraft Press. Many people, including members, think those books were published by the LDS Church and are somehow reflective of official policies and doctrines.

@kassd4169 7 месяцев назад

"Magic Mormon Underwear" 🤣🤣🤣

@doubleedgedfist1535 6 месяцев назад

Yes it’s true. When they pass away, they’re buried with these stupid garments.

@jeb6314 4 месяца назад

They're called garments. Except to bathe, they are worn 24/7. Dad -never a devout Mormon -called them varmints and let then get torn and tattered -an ABSOLUTE NO_NO!!!!!

@Idunnohowabout7364 2 месяца назад

8:50 HE MARRIED HIS MOTHER!?

@brettmajeske3525 Месяц назад

There are multiple characters named Mary in the Gospel accounts, Mary the mother of Jesus, Mary the sister of Martha, Mary Magdeline, and the other Mary.

@Idunnohowabout7364 Месяц назад

@@brettmajeske3525 Oh ok but I thought Mary the mom of Jesus and Mary the sister of Martha was the same person

@brettmajeske3525 Месяц назад

@@Idunnohowabout7364 Why would you think that? Mary the mother of Jesus lived in Nazareth, while Mary and Martha lived with their brother Lazareth in Bethany.

@Idunnohowabout7364 Месяц назад

@@brettmajeske3525 I remember hearing a story about Mary the mother of God having a sister named Martha and she gave birth to a boy which is Jesus’ cousin I probably got confused there since both pairs have the same name

@brettmajeske3525 Месяц назад

@@Idunnohowabout7364 Not a story from the Gospels, since Mary of Jesus has no named siblings in any of them.

@deboracopeland4795 6 месяцев назад

Type of people who get to go in the temple, Lori Vallow, Ruby Franke, Chad Daybell, and Jodi Hindibrant.

@queenvitamin21 5 месяцев назад

preach

@Charles-yf7kc 7 дней назад

Should have been called 'Moron-ism'.

@lazarusdarkstar3015 6 месяцев назад

I don’t know, but I think Scientology will definitely give Mormonism a run for its money

@BroadwayRonMexico 5 месяцев назад

So does Nation of Islam.

@mistermagoo8685 5 месяцев назад

No shit those people are nuts

@ThePoliticrat 5 месяцев назад

Scientology is more of a dishonest grift and ponzu scheme. It’s incredibly lazy.

@zeminoid 4 месяца назад

@@BroadwayRonMexico They're absolutely nuts

@dominikdurkovsky8318 4 месяца назад

Muhammad (police be upon him): You're just a cheap knockoff Joseph Smith: No, I'm the upgrade

@garys.2291 7 дней назад

I like how a person can categorically debunk this cult is just a few minutes, and on multiple different accounts.

@William_Afton2002 4 месяца назад

I’ve never heard anything more racist then this in any religion or even any religion taking about racism but holy crap that’s insane

@idekmydudes 4 месяца назад

Baptisms for the dead is NOT offering the CHANCE to join the Mormon church after death, it's FORCING the religion on dead people, which I find extremely disrespectful, as someone who was born into the Mormon church and HAS baptized for the dead,there are strict rules in the temple. No photography, no audio or visual recordings, you MUST be quiet. I've actually broken all these rules but I don't think anyone's caught me yet, so I think next time (because I'm still technically in the church) I'll go first for the dead and record it and start a yt channel about what actually goes on in the temple during these baptisms for the dead. There's also 'The Laying of The Hands' after the baptisms where the men who work in the temple bless you and the dead person you forced into the church, I'll try to go last for those and record them too. I don't know what's up with the magic underwear but there's magic underwear for men and women, I know that because the majority of my 13 aunts and uncles wear them because they grew up in the Mormon church. (thanks grandma and grandpa for converting) (I will not wear magic underwear.)

@echohunter4199 6 месяцев назад

I can’t help but think this was an early form of a sci-fi fan club. We’ve all seen people believe crazier ideas.

@playinglifeoneasy9226 6 месяцев назад

Scientology for 18th century.

@dominikdurkovsky8318 4 месяца назад

LDS = LSD 💀💀

@OTFinmyeyes 5 месяцев назад

The only thing that I agree with Mormonism about is that a large and intact and strong nuclear family is extremely important in any society or economy that wants to thrive

@Polit_Burro 4 месяца назад

many societies have prospered with other models such as extended kinship and even group marriage (Punalua, in Hawaii) that has worked quite well for them.

@OTFinmyeyes 4 месяца назад

@@Polit_Burro that may be true but they also have different personal values and morals and wants and needs and culture, you can't expect them to change and just become monogamous now so why expect people who are monogamous to change you can't be hypocritical when it comes to the things that really matter in the world or nothing really matters in the world anymore

@captainblocker4324 4 месяца назад

the nuclear family is a modern invention, extended family communities (uncles, aunts, grandparents, cousins, all as 1 family unit) is how most societies were before industrialization and individualism forced us into isolation

@OTFinmyeyes 4 месяца назад

@@captainblocker4324 no you're incorrect the nuclear family was created alongside the Bible to protect women and children from the pedophiliac polysexual Roman Empire and their Elites that's the only reason that marriage was ever created what's because rich men in Rome could have dozens of male child sex slaves and women sex slaves

@OTFinmyeyes 4 месяца назад

@@captainblocker4324 you're incorrect

@jarl-b_1124 5 месяцев назад

I’m a Baptist and one of my friends is Mormon. She claims to be a descendent of Jesus based on the family tree she has traced through the Mormon church. She said they believe that Mary, Martha, and Mary Magdalene are Jesus’ wives bc it wouldn’t make sense otherwise for why they’re mentioned. Maybe because the point of the Gospel is to show salvation is open to all?! Not just men, but women. Having women be the first witnesses of the empty tomb portrayed just how much God values all of humanity, man or woman.

@NathanKnight-kc7yj 4 месяца назад

I’m a member and I’d like to point out that I don’t think there is any history relating to Jesus and his marriage. But I do believe he did marry. I just believe it was a privacy thing as we focus on the teachings he chose to reveal.

@magikboydino 5 месяцев назад

Most of this is 100% spot on. I spent 30 years as a Mormon. One correction is Mormons believe JS did more for the salvation of humanity except for Jesus. Still a lofty claim. As I sometimes say, you don’t find many “real Mormons” these days; the ones that believe all this OG stuff like this, but they are out there 😝… well, they believe it but have a new spin and nuance to it!

@silliest_gooose 4 месяца назад

4:22 I mormoned at this part

@SquidBeatsSB 4 месяца назад

12:12 bro is spongebob on fire

@murrieta78 5 месяцев назад

Satan as a brother if Christ is a manicheist idea from dualistic heresies like Bogomils/Patarens/Cathars. So Joseph Smith must have known this. The same with striking similarity of his "prophethood" with Muhammad.

@lemonyz420 5 месяцев назад

Both are false prophets. Read Galatians 1:8.

@johnpapa8681 4 месяца назад

South Park's episode on Mormon beliefs is good.

@HernanToroA 7 месяцев назад

As Rabbi Tovia Singer says: "-Why God created Mormons? -So that Christians feel what Jews feel" 😂

@playinglifeoneasy9226 6 месяцев назад

Hey leave us out of this.

@HernanToroA 6 месяцев назад

@@playinglifeoneasy9226 🤣👍

@dominikdurkovsky8318 4 месяца назад

Dang it. This is for All the world war 2 Germany and funny mustache man jokes. May God bless you tho. ✝️☦️♥️

@rowdyredneck09 7 месяцев назад

Great video! Southpark made a really funny cartoon about Mormons. You should do it next.

@nola281 7 месяцев назад

Joseph Smith read from gold tablets, dumb dumb dumb.

@Tabascofanatikerin 7 месяцев назад

And don't forget the musical "The Book of Mormon"! 😄 I saw it myself when they performed in Zurich and it is hilarious incl. great songs!

@GrandpaCremate 6 месяцев назад

Dum dum dum dum dummmm

@nealmott9154 5 месяцев назад

As a convert, I’m not fully bought into the book of Mormon. I would say 50% of the information in that cartoon is false. I think what makes book of Mormon the Bible true is the stories that are read and how it stirs the soul wanna be a good person that my friends makes it real

@blake9908 4 месяца назад

Satan is not against good morals. He is against Jesus Christ. I know by your comment that you have not gotten your endowments. If you did, than you would know this video is 90% true. The church believes in many Gods (Read Abraham Chapter 4 in the LDS library) Next, I want you to read Isaiah 43 10-11. This verse says thet there are no other Gods but him. Isaiah 44:8 says "Yes, there is [no other] God; I know not any.

@aidacortes2460 5 месяцев назад

Bruh I heard that one of the beliefs of them states that the Lord came from the Middle East, and preached to the Aztecs… as someone who is currently trying to study Aztec mythology, I just see this and I’m like “ I’m sorry, WTF”

@eclipse-sh1qmZ3mOtcua 5 месяцев назад

True. I was raised to believe all the stuff in the clips. And when I took Anthropology of MesoAmerica it was totally different from what I'd been taught.

@Ironbattlemace 5 месяцев назад

When you find about Nation Of Islams, you will never be the same again, hail Yakub, our father of the albinoids.

@muzamilraza49 5 месяцев назад

Man this nation of islam thing is anti islamic in every way.

@bostonmiddaugh4660 5 месяцев назад

hey just curious where you found the source of that video because me being a member of the LDS church have never heard of any of this. I've grown up in the LDS church and just about every point that video had I was against our teachings and untrue being in my young adult life i have only read the Book of mormon about 3/4 through still working on it, which has not changed since the translation of joseph smith shares a lot of information on some of the those topic that from that video are completely not true. I have never hear this name "elohim" or the term "celestial sex" I believe that video was an attempt to make the LDS and its teachings look foolish and against the gods commandment. I encourage any of you that are interested in understanding our doctrine to search it yourself and read info from the church you are talking about instead of some wild video from the 60s trying to make people look crazy. not agree with teaching is one thing and I could understand that but spreading misinformation is completely different.

@eclipse-sh1qmZ3mOtcua 5 месяцев назад

Most of the Doctrines are no longer Taught. Example: Google "First Presidency Statement" and 1949, then same for 1969. You'll see they state these things as DOCTRINE direct from the Lord.

@brettmajeske3525 5 месяцев назад

@@eclipse-sh1qmZ3mOtcua The "1949 First Presidency Statement" is an internet hoax, and has never been published by the LDS Church.

@Decision_Justice 5 месяцев назад

Surprised you haven't heard of these things. I have. Elohim is the Hebrew plural masculine word for God. And you hear God referred to as Elohim in the temple. Celestial sex just means a regular activity of an eternally married couple. The Celestial Kingdom is where worthy married couples go. In any other Kingdom no one will be married. Most of what's in the video is real doctrine, some just wasn't taught much after the Pioneer Era. Is there anything in particular you're concerned about? Maybe you haven't heard of the dark skin curse? That's because the wording of the Book of Mormon was changed after the 1978 Declaration 2 came out. You can find a FREE pdf of the BoM from 1920 online and read the original wording. 2 Nephi 5:21 “And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceeding fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, therefore the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.” Want to see what the Doctrine was before 1978? Go to google advanced search and put in the exact phrase "The attitude of the Church with reference to the Negro remains as it has always stood" You'll see both a 1949 and a 1969 First Presidency Statement, so you'll get to read both. Notice the Statements say "It is *not a matter of the declaration of a policy but of direct commandment from the Lord, on which is founded the doctrine of the Church* from the days of its organization"

@brettmajeske3525 5 месяцев назад

@@Decision_Justice "Most of what's in the video is real doctrine, some just wasn't taught much after the Pioneer Era." I suppose that depends on one's definition of "real doctrine". As with any group, informal oral traditions do develop over time. Most of the beliefs mentioned in the cartoon are distortions of beliefs some sub-groups may have believed in part but were never found as official doctrines in the authorized publications. Your quoting of the Book of Mormon fails to mention that those verse were explicitly and exclusively about people from ancient America, not Africa. Out of context quotes can be misleading. I do not know why you think there is a need to check out the 1920 edition of the Book of Mormon, as the verse is basically the same in modern editions. Did you think the "skin of blackness" had been removed from modern editions? Speaking of misleading, while there is a 1969 First Presidency Statement that was read from the pulpit in every congregation and printed in the Church News and Ensign and other papers as an official press release, the alleged 1949 statement, was never published by the Mormon Church. Even though many websites like to call it a proclamation inferring it to be simular to the Proclamation on the Family, or The Living Christ, the 1949 (sometimes dated 1947 of 1952) is an excerpt from a book called "Mormonism and the Negro" written by John J Stewart. Stewart has written many books on Mormon history but has often been criticized for improper or incomplete citations of his alleged references. The books identifies the text as a letter from the office of the First Presidency, written to a then professor at BYU, not as a declaration or official public statement or letter to the general body of the church, or any other formal press release. While simular letters written by Joseph Anderson, who was the secretary to the First Presidency at the time, have been found, no letter matching the exact text as published in Mormonism and Negro has been found. In any case, the cartoon was produced in 1982, after the 1978 revelation of the priesthood and the official rejection and disavowal of past theories. So it is still being dishonest by claiming rejected theories about race were still being officially taught.

@Decision_Justice 5 месяцев назад

@@brettmajeske3525 If you're having trouble finding the information that verifies this First Presidency Statement as being genuine, try using Google Advanced Search. Put the first line in as an "exact phrase" and in the results there are sources that state it is "Verified" . One source is the BH Roberts Foundation. It is the 1951 Letter that is reproduced in the book you mention. That 1951 letter has additional material in the form of a numbered list that was not in the 1949 First Presidency Statement. Here is the quote from the BH Roberts Foundation staff: "BHR staff requested a transcription of the primary source of this record. The Church History Library replied on January 31, 2023 as follows: " "Thank you for your request. We are unable to identify where that numbered list comes from. It was not part of the [1949] statement that has already been verified." " Notice that the 1949 Statement of the First Presidency was already verified by the Church History Library. It is the portion from the 1951 letter, consisting of a numbered list that was not verified. The 1951 Letter is reproduced as a Supplement in the 1960 book you mentioned.

@buckyhate7695 5 месяцев назад

To be fair, it's no more ridiculous than the rest of Christianity, or any other religion for the matter.

@felixorakwue7833 5 месяцев назад

They are not Christians, don’t associate them with the faith in the holy trinity.

@craigandahalf 5 месяцев назад

I mean, this is obviously a polemic and shouldn't be viewed as absolutely what all Mormons really believe, any more that you can believe the historicity of the Book of Mormon. They are obviously taking the most outrageous parts and highlighting them. Though, I will note that the racism was very real, and probably somewhat underemphasized.

@hinckleypotter5940 5 месяцев назад

yeah ive studied mormon beliefs my entire dang life and about 2% of this stuff is accurate

@TearYouApart360 5 месяцев назад

To be fair most religions sound pretty wacky when it's really broken down.

@zinnixtoma1 4 месяца назад

Yippie. I am a ex chatolic. And let me tell you the religious trauma is wild

@cutlerterry2121 5 месяцев назад

The “castration” is alluded to a lot by prophets even at one of the recent general conferences they hinted at it, but it’s no a castration per say just when you get resurrected you won’t have your sexual organs

@brettmajeske3525 5 месяцев назад

Since that is what pretty much every other Christian denomination already believes about Heaven, I do not see why it is such a big deal that Mormons are just agreeing with the majority.

@cutlerterry2121 5 месяцев назад

@@brettmajeske3525 I say what?!

@brettmajeske3525 5 месяцев назад

@@cutlerterry2121 That is the basic general consensus of pretty much every Christian denomination I have studied. No marriage in Heaven means no sex. Mormons are the only group that seems to think sex in heaven is a possibility. Which is why I am curious why people think this is even a worthwhile criticism.

@cutlerterry2121 5 месяцев назад

@@brettmajeske3525 your 100% correct but I mean in lds faith like you said they think you will have your whole body including the reproductive organs, but if you aren’t in the celestial kingdom you won’t, which gives them more to the way they say that the only way to truly be saved is through the Mormon rituals. (And when I said it was alluded to by Prophets I meant modern Mormon prophets lol sorry if I wasn’t clear lol)

@brettmajeske3525 5 месяцев назад

@@cutlerterry2121 As far as I can tell by searching the LDS church website, that is not something that is explicitly taught. The specific doctrine is about increase, i.e. children, which implies a difference in bodies between kingdoms. What the exact difference is not made clear from any of the official sources. Frankly from googling the topic of "smoothie tk" is something far more discussed on ex-Mormon cites. Such discussions seem to be mostly, "this is what they actually mean when they say X" type. So while I think it is reasonable to assert that the tradition exists, I have not found a single source published and or copyrighted by the LDS Church stating any form of castration or lack of genitals. Just that outside of the Celestial Kingdom people will not be able to have children. Since the standard Christian idea of Heaven does not include the ability to have children anyways, the concern about being castrated in Mormon Heaven seems somewhat over blown to me.

@RohitSharma-oh8qm 5 месяцев назад

As a atheist, it's crazy when one religious people try to prove others religion wrong with "rationality" . Like this youtuber guy said .. " Mormons think elohim impregnated mary ... ridiculous..IN ACTUALITY IT WAS A HOLY GHOST .😂 Like bro .. religion is faith .. there is no proof of global flood and noah arc either .

@SonderSystem22 3 месяца назад

Caffeine that isn’t in coffee was allowed after Mitt Romney, the Mormon presidential candidate, was caught drinking caffeinated soda. They changed the rules so die-hard church members wouldn’t reject him as a leader/continue to support his presidential campaign. Joseph Smith also intended to run for president as well 🙃

@tthx165 3 месяца назад

Well yea, and Bill Marriott was making 200 million in sales for Porn and Alcohol in his Marriott hotels when he was a General Authority for the LDS church. After the and the Mormon Board of Marriott (including Mitt Romney) were caught Bill Marriott promised he would stop the sale of both in all his hotels, but, as it happened it was only carried out in UItah. Now the LDS church officially invests in things it preaches against, like owning stock in several companies that sell alcohol like Dave & Buster's Entertainment Inc which is a bar. You can also buy coffee and alcohol at the LDS mall for that matter. To say nothing of how the LDS church constantly preaches against buying stuff like Porn from Apple, Amazon and other companies when it in fact has a LOT of stock in Apple and Amazon.

@PROOB-xq2rq 7 месяцев назад

When you want to be a fiction writer but your 19th century father wants you to be a priest.

@robertlockwood3277 6 месяцев назад

Seriously. The guy clearly had imagination and drive. If I was dad I’d just ask for a cut

@PROOB-xq2rq 6 месяцев назад

@@robertlockwood3277 Times have improved since then, even Stalin's parents thought he would be better off as an Orthodox priest than the supreme leader of the USSR.

@NightmareRex6 6 месяцев назад

tell him if you be a prist than his family line dies off becuase priest = no wife = no kids = death?

@PROOB-xq2rq 6 месяцев назад

@@NightmareRex6 Become an orthodox priest, they can marry.

@doofinpuss23 6 месяцев назад

Good thing he didn't want to be a painter.

@truecamillec350 7 месяцев назад

Whoever came up with Mormon mythology could probably fix the MCU💀

@MrHominid2U 6 месяцев назад

LOL

@rickydornberger4771 6 месяцев назад

If you look at it from a pure lore perspective it is prettt good 😂

@aplaowattanakul7760 6 месяцев назад

I hate that I agree with you.

@Hendebendle 6 месяцев назад

It isn’t Mythology. Mythology is if nobody alive believe in it anymore

@USGovsOwnersRtheRealEnemy 6 месяцев назад

Phree Mahsons and Lucy Fer

@EndInformation 5 месяцев назад

Scientology wishes it got this level of writing.

@xibalbalon8668 5 месяцев назад

For a cult founded by a science fiction writer, Scientology lore isn't really the grandest thing out there. Most people just know Xenu

@kdaviper 5 месяцев назад

Most scientologists didn't know the lore lol. They can't afford the knowledge😆@@xibalbalon8668

@kdaviper 5 месяцев назад

The actual writing is atrocious. Half of the damn book of Mormon is "and it came to pass"

@Meyer-gp7nq 5 месяцев назад

Best comment. Actually made me laugh out loud😂

@RayorBanz 5 месяцев назад

The Devil is quite Krafty... To trick that many people into following this trash.

@mooniegoodie 7 месяцев назад

I love how the video specifies “mormon Jesus” every single time! Like “There is normal Jesus, and then there’s MORMON Jesus”

@Jakov-or7fp 7 месяцев назад

They just don't want to disrespected Jesus by calling MORMON Jesus the same they would as regular Jesus.

@Luuv_Jesh 7 месяцев назад

@@Jakov-or7fppretty much

@jasperjudd 7 месяцев назад

You absolutely have to watch the video “you can’t touch mormon Jesus” it’s an edit of the cartoon and just trust me it’s great

@wes4736 6 месяцев назад

Idunno how to specifically point it out, but Mormon Jesus looks like an American white guy rather than a European white guy when he's painted.

@Dorkeydaze 6 месяцев назад

Based. Jesus is king the Mormon rip-off is just some dude

@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811 5 месяцев назад

"were cursed to be born with black skin" I'm sorry what🙋‍♀️

@angelmartin7310 4 месяца назад

It has been viewed as a negative thing throughout all of the world and throughout history.

@dominikdurkovsky8318 4 месяца назад

@@angelmartin7310 I don't know how you thought that was a good excuse for racism. Your own prophet was a racist

@Sam-ow9fe 3 месяца назад

Racismo ¿donde?

@p.a.681 2 месяца назад

@@angelmartin7310Sure, viewed as a negative thing by ignorant racist and colorist people throughout history, yes. Viewed as a negative thing by normal sensible people throughout history, no.

@jojoone1099 Месяц назад

The crazy thing is that Mormons and JW's harass Black people to try to join their belief systems. They have so much audacity.

@AichaCT 5 месяцев назад

The FREAKING BLASPHEMY OMG, my jaw is on the floor and i can't pick it back up.

@dominikdurkovsky8318 4 месяца назад

[ANATHEMA ALERT ANATHEMA ALERT] ☦️✝️♥️

@kumaranvij 4 месяца назад

Careful, your own religion contains many sexist and disproven claims, too.

@David-lq3vr 4 месяца назад

My jaw was dropped throughout the whole video aswell. Like there is absolutely no way i just heard that 💀

@dominikdurkovsky8318 4 месяца назад

They reject pentecost and the promise made in it Also Galatians 1:8

@Alienboi2005vidsandstuff 4 месяца назад

Mormons are actual heretics

@youcantsay7929 4 месяца назад

I have to admit....you didn't even need to show the cartoon to convince me to convert. You had me the moment you mentioned 'Magic Underwear ' 😇

@Iamthatis137 Месяц назад

☝🏼 The men’s is hot. Just sayin…

@mikewilhelm2977 7 дней назад

All of it's magic. The catholic got magic wafers and wine. The Mormons just got sacred clothing that they wear, like Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist people. Y'all act like theyre the weirdos when everyone just likes to wear or eat things that mean something important to them.

@CellBiter2112 7 месяцев назад

my favorite part was where he said "its mormon time" and mormed all over the place

@OfficialDenzy 6 месяцев назад

Bot

@plaguesnstuff7657 6 месяцев назад

Im gonna moooorm

@NBrioDaZueraRules 6 месяцев назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OLpeX4RRo28.html

@br4252 6 месяцев назад

@@OfficialDenzyyou must be mormen to think a comment like this could be anything but human created. Do you even know what bot means? Maybe he’s one of the gods laying infinite pipe up above.

@OfficialDenzy 6 месяцев назад

@@br4252 I called him a bot because of spamming comments like these in every video

@ghostophelia2245 4 месяца назад

Joseph smith: exists Rosetta stone: "imma bout to ruin this mans entire career"

@Gabby-er1sr 7 месяцев назад

LDS=LSD

@numberbirb7728 6 месяцев назад

Best comment 😂

@SuperSonicBlueberry 5 месяцев назад

@melorca1962 5 месяцев назад

LDS is LSD for the people

@andypaulsibakoff9816 5 месяцев назад

The worst LSD trip ever would trump any LDS activity though😉

@Gabby-er1sr 5 месяцев назад

@@melorca1962 Not opium ?

@calonstanni 7 месяцев назад

I like the way that their hair becomes all badass and spikey when they become demons! 6:24

@TwilightWolf032 7 месяцев назад

Evil is cooler, you get anime hair!

@calonstanni 7 месяцев назад

🤣@@TwilightWolf032

@AKdaJuiceGuy 6 месяцев назад

It was this moment that I realized that Mormons are the truth

@tinkercat8268 7 месяцев назад

You missed the part about how he would drop an egg shaped rock into a hat and put his face in it and that’s how he “translated” the texts

@UnicornsExist17 7 месяцев назад

LMAO 🤣

@professorhaystacks6606 6 месяцев назад

Rocks, plural, iirc. Ummim and Thummim in some accounts. Generic seer stones in others.

@miscalotastuff733 6 месяцев назад

It was a seer stone. A type of agate. They admitted to it.@@professorhaystacks6606

@MrMattSax 6 месяцев назад

Yeah man, it was a seer stone, duh!!

@GenesisSurovov 6 месяцев назад

Also a magical Salamander would appear in that hat and dictate to him what to write .

@Solarsystemrdffdfyyhh 4 месяца назад

Damn celestial booty call! She opens the door and all he did was give her that look. No dinner, No movie, no ride, no walk around the mall, playa!

@tarniabook3076 Месяц назад

Sorry for getting off topic, but is "playa!" an actual expression? In spanish it simply means "beach". Does it have something to do with that? Genuinely curious.

@Mai2727 Месяц назад

@@tarniabook3076 playa is another way of saying "player"

@JHWHTheGOD 18 дней назад

God mode on

@mooniegoodie 7 месяцев назад

This whole thing sounds like the lore of a fantasy/sci-fi story

@OfficialDenzy 6 месяцев назад

Because it is

@monus782 6 месяцев назад

I’ve read parts of the Book of Mormon and recently got a copy of the Urantia Book and both have… Interesting ideas to say the least

@monus782 6 месяцев назад

I guess that explains why many Mormons like Sanderson are into the fantasy/sci-if genre

@mooniegoodie 6 месяцев назад

@@monus782 please elaborate

@monus782 6 месяцев назад

@@mooniegoodiewell from what I remember a lot of the beliefs in this video are not in the Book of Mormon itself but I did find the passages that sound pretty racist and it’s pretty much an attempted explanation on where did the Native Americans came from (and some elements of this were pretty popular at the time through something called the Mound Builder myth, settlers were finding across old sites as they were moving west and they didn’t believe that the Natives that were around could build them), I’m Mexican so if my understanding of Mormon theology is correct then I’m basically a Lamanite since I have indigenous ancestry somewhere. Also in a section called Ether there’s wooden submarines mentioned. The Urantia Book is much closer to what this video talks about as it was created much later and it does talk about planets and galaxies with a Jesus twist (and eugenics from what I’ve read), they’re two different texts but they’re similar in that they’re basically additions to the Bible.

@UndeadEggmiester 7 месяцев назад

Mormen mythology is amazingly nutts. This is easily some of the best sci-fi writing we have gotten

@raakone 7 месяцев назад

I think only one other "religion" has weirder "sci-fi writing"

@ColorlessQuarky 7 месяцев назад

@@raakoneWould that happen to be hinduism?

@endersdragon34 7 месяцев назад

LRH has nothing on Joseph Smith.

@endersdragon34 7 месяцев назад

@@ColorlessQuarkyprobably was thinking of scientology.... But I disagree... This is way crazier than anything in scientology

@raakone 7 месяцев назад

@@ColorlessQuarky nope, something even more out there. A volcano is allegedly involved.

@tpeters85 5 месяцев назад

Sounds like Joseph Smith was basically L. Ron Hubbard, but 100 years earlier.

@ramisamman1095 5 месяцев назад

Or Muhammad but 1000 years

@cactusblob1688 5 месяцев назад

BINGO!!! He was scum.

@wesleyfilms 4 месяца назад

At least Joe didn’t marry and deflower a child, as far as we know….

@londonduck4960 4 месяца назад

@@wesleyfilms Joe didnt only marry a child.... he married over 30 women

@JamesMC04 4 месяца назад

Joseph Smith forgot to add Xenu the alien, who arrives on Earth 75,000 years in the past.

@DameFuegoAmor 7 месяцев назад

I knew a girl who left the JW religion to then jump into he Mormon one. One crazy belief to another

@GeseppiOoodblast 6 месяцев назад

A lot of Amish do this as well

@cult_of_odin 6 месяцев назад

Is mormonism any crazier than other religions? No really. At least you get to become a god instead of a slave for eternity like Christianity.

@farishope6540 6 месяцев назад

lord

@ilikecheese4518 6 месяцев назад

out of the frying pan and in to the fire

@CollinRezac 6 месяцев назад

@@ilikecheese4518out of the pot and into the pan

@fewrwaawrwqa2590 5 месяцев назад

I loved the part where he said “it's mormin' time!” and mormed all over everybody.

@doomsdayprophet6847 5 месяцев назад

Magic underwear was the sell point for me

@dominikdurkovsky8318 4 месяца назад

Or the refund point to be exact

@alomaalber6514 Месяц назад

Orson Scott Card and writes excellent fiction in a boxed set! Great fiction writer.

@dougmurphy1777 5 месяцев назад

That look on Elohim's face when he comes knocking on Mary's door - priceless!

@GenesisSurovov 5 месяцев назад

Do you think the all mighty Elohim would come let out a little smile at the prospect of sex with a fair maiden? .....lol , nah bro i grew up mormon, everytime i saw that video after i left that church that look made me laugh so much as well priceless

@turbofan67 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, he's saying "Hey baby" with his eyes.

@GenesisSurovov 5 месяцев назад

@@turbofan67 In my country to help keep the public safe we put out a yearly publication called the 'Sexual offender catalogue' that has photos of last years rapists, child molestors what they did etc .From 1976 - 79 prime sexual offender in all of New Zealand was the splitting image of that Eloheim in that cartoon with that same look , I wonder if they copied that cartoon Eloheim off of our national prime sex offender, or if our poster boy was actually the real mormon Eloheim in a human body impregnating the females of my land with gods seed and we accidently thought he was a serial rapist.....put him in jail for a few years..Some deep doctrine to think about next time you hie to Kolob in the twinkling of an eye.

@Polit_Burro 4 месяца назад

Booty call

@37Kilo2 4 месяца назад

"Hey bb. Want some fuc?"

@joshuawayneyork 7 месяцев назад

I love how they talk about Ancient America, saying there were horses and all kinds of other things that didn't exist until Columbus and others came to the new world 🤣

@surrelljr 7 месяцев назад

I tried to believe it when I was falling for a Mormon girl, then I realized that they were full of shit.

@bigspeaqer6157 6 месяцев назад

While this video was very comical, a simple google search will show you that the horse DOES originate in Ancient America and it’s descendant(s) were reintroduced

@surrelljr 6 месяцев назад

@@bigspeaqer6157 the Indians ate them so the current ones were reintroduced.

@gilnopvariko 6 месяцев назад

One time I read, I guess on the book of Mosiah, that, in a certainly event, the nephites brought an ELEPHANT

@susansokoloski2233 6 месяцев назад

Horses and camels originated in the Americas and later migrated to Eurasia. Much later, they became extinct in the Americas. Scientific facts.

@prestoncole1862 7 месяцев назад

While it’s fun to poke fun at the religion, it’s genuinely disheartening growing up in a family where everyone believes the entire religion to be true. I’m the outlier for not devoting my life to this and it’s hard.

@GenesisSurovov 6 месяцев назад

Chin up mate I fully know what you are going through as I went through it . I was raised in the Church in New Zealand and was in your shoes when I left the church about 23 years ago, I'm 46 now and live a very different life from what I did back then things will get easier . As I look over my life now I know I made the right choice and my life is so much better without the church in it.

@oftin_wong 6 месяцев назад

Have comfort in knowing you are too smart to be manipulated

@jwarrior9986 6 месяцев назад

There is an Near Death Experience about a drug addict who died and went to hell. He saw Joseph Smith there. It is here on youtube. The title is called "Man Goes to Hell and Sees This Famous False Prophet." A real horrible fate awaits those following the Mormon faith. God help them all, because the Mormon God will not as it is a demon.

@oftin_wong 6 месяцев назад

@@jwarrior9986 really and you find that compelling ?

@oftin_wong 6 месяцев назад

@@jwarrior9986 Don't you have to go to heaven first to get judged ?

@humbledone6382 5 месяцев назад

No, Mormon’s are NOT Christians. They do not hold to the orthodox view of the Trinity, the prophets of the OT, Jesus’ teachings, etc. They “borrow” the name, but nothing about the cult is Christian.

@-VolkoslaV- 5 месяцев назад

Well said

@RobespierreThePoof 5 месяцев назад

It really doesn't matter if they follow Nicean Christianity or not. Historically, they are a product of the Second Great Awakening and therefore part of the history of Christianity. Sectarian debates about theology and who gets to be part of which club have very little value.

@josephfox9221 5 месяцев назад

@@RobespierreThePoof I mean then the Unitarian Universalists and arguably Islam is also Christian then. you do need boundaries on what is inside a group and what is the line outside. or else everyone is actually just Jewish.

@AjayTamilarason-bh2cl 5 месяцев назад

Before you have this claims, please explain what is your definition of “Christians” mean Next, please explain how we do not use Jesus’s teachings and how is that we “Mormons” don’t hold the same view as the prophets of old. Ill have to agree on you, that yes we dont hold the same view as the orthodox trinitarian view. But even after all, how are members of the Church of Jesus Christ (Mormons) are a cult? Please define what cult mean. Ill have to disagree with you with most of the claims you made. To simplify 1. We are christians, because we believe in Christ. We believe He is the great mediator of Man and God. We believe the wisdom He has taught in the New Testament and also through his prophets, including the ones revealed to Old Testament Prophets. We believe in the testimonies of Him that he is the Son of God. We believe in His atonement and His prophecy foretold in the Old and New Testament. The term Christians refer to people who are “believers of Christ”. 2. We believe in Prophets of old including from the time of Adam to the apostles. We believe theres modern day prophet’s that are living today aswell. Whether you disagree or not with our view of modern day prophets, it does not prove that we don’t follow counsel’s and teachings that the prophet of old as preached. 3. We are not a cult. Here’s a definition of a cult “ : a small religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous.” - Our membership has it 17 million, not to brag but it is not a small religious organisation. Aside from Polygamy which was banned from late 1800s, how has our Church and doctrine been anyway extreme or dangerous? If we are cults back then, are we cults now?

@josephfox9221 5 месяцев назад

@@AjayTamilarason-bh2cl Hi Ajay! I think I can take a stab at this. lets talk about the definition of Christian. you suppose that a Christian is someone who follows Christ. but Muslims say they follow Christ. but you and I agree they arent Christian. so we know its not just someone who claims to follow him. other groups such as some Buddhist will say he is a Bodhisattva or a Guru. heck Bahai faith has a closer view of Jesus to Orthodoxy than Mormonism because they view him as a manifestation of God and not a literal offspring. but they arent Christian. we could go with anyone who self describes as Christian is a Christian but that would just be ripe for abuse. like if an atheist group made the church of Christ and Satan where they blend the two together. what makes in my mind the clear cut difference is the Trinity. other religions dont have this, all Christian groups do up until your church and the JW came onto the scene.

@highlandergunn9240 6 месяцев назад

L Ron Hubbard must have read this

@brettmajeske3525 6 месяцев назад

Well according to Robert Heinlein, he and Hubbard were talking about Joseph Smith and Book of Mormon. The conversation led to Heinlein writing "Stranger in a Strange Land" and Hubbard to create Scientology.

@Ironbattlemace 5 месяцев назад

Nation of Islam is something else too.

@clydedoris5002 5 месяцев назад

Saturated market he wouldn't have been able to profit

@alomaalber6514 Месяц назад

He may have. Orson Scott Card is a great novelist and he is also an LDS member, saw his box set yesterday at a bookstore!

@aaronmoore2691 6 месяцев назад

My mom turned mormon after my parents split and she got custody of me. I think the only thing that keeps people in the LDS church is the fact that they actually rarely talked about the more insane beliefs and Ideologies and spent most sundays just giving testimonials about how god has impacted peoples lives and singing hymns. I honestly think that if most mormons actually learned about these teachings, they'd leave like my Mom eventually did. Even as a kid I could see Mormonism was BS and it made me lose interest in all religions. After 10 years of being an atheist I found faith in christ, however and I never turn away Mormons when they come knocking, because I do believe its a cult that people need saving from.

@tomoates8568 6 месяцев назад

Just curious, what made you believe in religion again? I was raised mornon and I'm an atheist now myself

@aaronmoore6275 6 месяцев назад

Aaron! What up?!

@aaronmoore2691 6 месяцев назад

@@aaronmoore6275 lol

@aaronmoore2691 6 месяцев назад

@tomoates8568 Well I became agnostic after realizing that life is irreducibly complex, but I just figured we were as animals and just stop existing when we die. (Which actually sounded quite nice at the time.) Two Thanksgivings ago I got talking to a relative who is an insanely smart and successful but was a Christian. He ended up laying down the historical evidence for christ, showing how Judaism and Christian was revealed to man and not written by man, he showed me how jesus claimed to be god and backed up his claim through the resurrection, he talked about the incredible lives of the saints, showed me how God's law has to come from God because it goes against the values of nature. And that last one was a big one for me, because if we just evolved through survival of the fittest then should think like chimps and be raping and stealing and killing. The idea of Sexual immortality has no place in nature, nor the idea of self sacrifice, nor the idea of mercy, nor forgiveness, ect. I used to say I dont need religion, and honestly the thought of death never frightened me until I saw all the evidence and couldn't deny that christ not only lived (and isn't a metaphor or a fairy tale), and that he died and was resurected on the third day. And if I am to trust all of that, then I need to trust him that our creator actually loves us and wants to be with us and that death isn't the end.

@aaronmoore2691 6 месяцев назад

@tomoates8568 Also I'd like to mention, Christians aren't mislead sheep with low intelligence like I used to think. There are some very intelligent Christians out there who debate very intelligent atheist, that I highly suggest you look into if you want evidence and answers to the finer details of things.

@Anakin_Skywalker01 8 дней назад

“Who was known for his tall tales” That should have been our first clue😂

@brettmajeske3525 6 дней назад

That the cartoon is just an Evangelical propaganda that doesn't actually reflect Mormon beliefs?

@Minos_Prime_King_of_Lust 6 месяцев назад

I bet they were smoking that celestial zaza when they wrote the book.

@queenvitamin21 5 месяцев назад

no shit there are legit academic papers about joseph smith using psychedelic mushrooms as an entheogen so possibly yeah

@alomaalber6514 Месяц назад

that herb IS in American history! Along with folk ways that may have influenced him. Sounds like a big campfire story to me!

@tazvideogaming4099 6 месяцев назад

Mormonism is a polytheistic, yet the Bible is monotheistic.

@JayLee-bv3vw 6 месяцев назад

The Bible is but Christianity and Catholicism are not. The Bible states that there is one God in three manifestations, not persons. The Father left His throne in heaven and took on the form of a servant. The Father is the Son is the Spirit. The Christians fail to understand that God exists in all realms at all times, so they assume when it comes to explaining why Jesus prayed to the Father. God in the flesh was subservient to Himself in the Spirit, which is greater.

@squirlmy 6 месяцев назад

@@JayLee-bv3vw Catholicism basically says the nature of the Trinity is a divine Mystery, not to be understood by ordinary people. Like any Protestant (not Anglican or Episcopalian, maybe?), I could poke logical holes in the theory of the Trinity, so I think just saying it's a mystery is probably the best approach

@JayLee-bv3vw 6 месяцев назад

@@squirlmy It's not a mystery at all. The Scriptures tell us. It's actually quite simple.

@ilikecheese4518 6 месяцев назад

its because mormons are heretics

@connorhart7597 6 месяцев назад

You could make the argument that christianity in general is polytheistic, in the same way you could make the argument that hinduism is monotheistic. Not saying either is necessarily correct, but things like this are harder to determine than just stating one is and one isnt lmao

@proud2bpagan 7 месяцев назад

one of my best friends growing up was LDS..i was Southern Baptist. We used to have sleep overs at each other's houses,she was such a sweetheart,and we had some erm...spirited..debates,lol.

@gilnopvariko 6 месяцев назад

The members of the church are very good persons, the unique problem is they believe's:/

@tayebizem3749 17 дней назад

And now you're a pagan 🎉

@sullivandmitry1416 6 дней назад

Mormonism is the best example of “dude, I made this shit up for fun and to make money. What the fuck were y’all doing?”

@ExtraRiceCrispy 7 месяцев назад

I was Mormon when I first watched this video years ago, so I guess you could say I started this challenge backwards

@QuarioQuario54321 7 месяцев назад

What did you think?

@JasTheSass 4 месяца назад

I have to ask, how much of this applies to current day Mormons? Just generally curious. Is space Jesus still a thing?

@brettmajeske3525 4 месяца назад

@@JasTheSass I don't think it was ever "a thing". The cartoon contains much misrepresentation and distortion.

@JasTheSass 4 месяца назад

@@brettmajeske3525 I assumed it would be that way, but I figured I’d ask anyways.

@brettmajeske3525 4 месяца назад

@@JasTheSass If you want "Space Jesus" then the Space Trilogy from CS Lewis is a better bet.

@jasperjudd 7 месяцев назад

As an ex mormon who grew up in the Mormon hub (salt lake city), on the topic of how much of this is currently believed, the answer is super complicated. Most of the details like being judged by Joseph smith or heaven polygamy or castration aren’t believed by the large majority. They aren’t even known by most Mormons. Mormons have this weird problem where they believe both the Bible and the book of Mormon but don’t know how to account for the discrepancies so most of them really don’t even know what their own religion is supposed to believe. It wasn’t until I was a teenager that I learned about the whole “becoming a god and getting a planet” thing and when I asked Mormon adults in my life about it they seemed just as confused. About half said it was true and the other half said it was a metaphor (but like, a metaphor for what???? Wtf?). Also, to further prove how little most Mormons know about their own religion, I’ve started playing this lil trivia game with Mormon family members where I ask them what Gods name is (Elohim). I shit you not, not even 20% of the ADULT Mormons I’ve asked know the answer. And admittedly I myself only knew cause of an edit of this cartoon (“you can’t touch mormon Jesus” so funny and highly recommend) cause like we aren’t taught this at all in church? Out of my family of 6, my dad and I knew (the ex Mormons), and my little brother about to go on his mission knew vaguely but butchered the pronunciation. My mom, sister, and other brother had no clue. Even some of my extremely by the book Mormon relatives had absolutely no idea. Mormons are, at their very core, just egotistical Christians who think they’re better than everyone else just because they’re Mormon; while hardly even knowing what makes Mormons different from other Christians. They just know they’re special because god told Joseph smith that they are the only true Christian’s. Never mind the fact that half of what Joseph Smith said and believed in isn’t believed in by other Mormons anymore because it’s so batshit insane.

@Sucullentbutter 6 месяцев назад

Ok but one question. Can you expect god to do all of the work?

@doms5755 6 месяцев назад

@@Sucullentbutteryou’re cooked bro.

@jasperjudd 6 месяцев назад

@@Sucullentbutter what do you mean by that? What work exactly? Also God is God, so any work that does need to be done I would expect him to do instantly (considering the fact that it’s no effort at all for him to do so) unless there was a good reason for him not to. So yes, I would expect god to do all the work unless there was a genuine reason for him to leave it to humans instead. Maybe he doesn’t do some things so that humans can grow themselves. That I can understand. Why he doesn’t do anything about genuine atrocities, that only cause major suffering and trauma through, I’ll never be able to understand. I don’t expect God to do everything, but I’ll never understand why he allows some things to happen; like little girls being r*p*d. Hence my obsession with the theological debate of “the problem of evil”. I’ve never found a valid explanation for it and as a result I’m unable to have full respect for God. Maybe one day I’ll understand and be able to respect his decision to allow such vial evil and cruelty into this world. Until I’m given a valid explanation for that cruelty though, and a reason as to why adult r*p*sts and k*llers free will is prioritized over innocent children’s lives and free will, I can never approve of what god is doing and allowing

@Sucullentbutter 6 месяцев назад

@@jasperjudd It was Just a silly little game reference, i tought more ppl wolud know since new Vegas is like. 10 yes old.

@jasperjudd 6 месяцев назад

@@Sucullentbutter oh shit 😭 sorry! I’m autistic and don’t play enough video games to have gotten the reference. Sorry to give you a whole ass (anti)religious ramble in response 😰😭😭

@EL-IZ-At-BETH-sarim 7 месяцев назад

Magic underware...🤩 As a Harry Potter fan I'm in!😂

@Thor_b 6 месяцев назад

Ha 😂

@CheetahCrusader 6 месяцев назад

The ancient lie of the serpent: you become like God.

@andypaulsibakoff9816 5 месяцев назад

Had a serpent, a 14ft Burmese python and he never uttered a word besides*blblblblblb* - I didn't need the snake to convince me I'm a god(dess), I know I am as is everyone who has provided mankind ANYTHING new; children, art, music, science - we're all gods and should act accordingly..

@randybobandy4801 5 месяцев назад

“I have said, ye are gods..” Psalm 82, and Gospel of John 10

@kdaviper 5 месяцев назад

The irony is that the serpent is painted as evil for exposing God's deception.

@kiddlewigglie_hehe 5 месяцев назад

@@randybobandy4801Just read the chapter for context, God Bless❤

@kiddlewigglie_hehe 5 месяцев назад

@@kdaviperWhat deception, the serpent is deception itself, Godbless❤

@Dino95423 6 месяцев назад

As a Catholic, I can see why ppl make fun of Christianity. Most of us are sane, I swear.

@jamesboswell1804 6 месяцев назад

It will only get crazier

@silasmoriarty539 6 месяцев назад

mormons aren't even Christian lmao, the amount of heresies is crazy in Mormonism and JW is crazy.

@StanTorrent 6 месяцев назад

@@silasmoriarty539Calling a cult “heresy” is very stupid

@labradortea7873 6 месяцев назад

Mormons aren’t Christian since they reject the trinity which is heresy in the Christian faith

@florian8599 6 месяцев назад

@@StanTorrent Calling a cult heresy is "normal" religion's way of saying "This is nuts even for us!". Heretical cults tend to cut themselves off completely from the mainstream or ecumenical community of a religion, proclaiming that they are the "True Church", "True [insert religion here]" etc. Both Mormonism and Jehova's Witnesses are cults that were founded by single individuals in the 19th century who claimed to know better thant the Church Fathers and the Ecumenical Councils. They rejected the Ecumenical Councils' and Church Fathers' teachings like the Trinity, the dual nature of divinity and humanity in Christ etc. (Nizene mainstream). Nizene, trinitarian Christianity is the mainstream in the Christian faith, and if Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant Churches (with Baptists etc.) agree that what your group teaches is bonkers, then you are doing something wrong, because other than the Nizene Creed (without filioque!), there are few things the multiple branches of Nizene, trinitarian mainstream Christianity can agree on.

@wurstbrat. 7 месяцев назад

So black skin is bad but brown skin is ok? They seem to somewhat admit that the Israelites would not have been white? I'm curious.

@yoythecool 7 месяцев назад

I am a Israelite myself (jewish man) I live in israel half of us a brown skin bro

@IyahshYasharahla144k 6 месяцев назад

@@yoythecoolyou are not no Israelite you don’t for not 1 _curse_ in Deuteronomy 28

@joeoak7090 6 месяцев назад

@@yoythecoolI thought Israel sterilized the balax and browns 🤔

@yoythecool 6 месяцев назад

@@IyahshYasharahla144k trust me, my parents who does knows kept me away from these things. Thank god!

@IyahshYasharahla144k 6 месяцев назад

@@yoythecool you are Edomite your fate is in the book of Obadiah! Read It!

@im______lazy 7 месяцев назад

I grew up in a strictly Mormon household and I didn't even know half of this stuff. But I can agree that reproduction is HUGE in Mormonism. Growing up my parents were constantly having kids, I was second oldest in a family of 10 (5 sisters 2 brothers) so I was constantly taught how to cook, clean, and care for my future children by half raising my siblings while my parents were busy making more. I was essentially raised to be a baby-making machine till the day I die and be a wonderful trad wife. When you reach 18 you go to a "young single adult" church for Mormons where you speedrun getting married so that you can start a family quicker, on my 19 birthday my parents where disappointed that I'm not married yet. As an asexual I have expressed my distaste for sex, but am constantly told that "I'll change my mind when I get married" or "I'll grow to want it" and people don't believe me when I say that and even go to say the most disgusting sex talk I've heard. My parents are still expecting blood-related grandchildren.

@Apachemiwokmexican777 7 месяцев назад

I don't think it's just limited to the Mormon church either tbh. My parents are Orthodox Presbyterian, and they still talk about me getting married and having kids even tho I have told them that it's not for me.

@activelyperformingmitosis 7 месяцев назад

fellow asexual exmo I relate heavily to what you said here. For years I felt like my only purpose in life was what my mom had told me what was 'revealed to her' by god or the spirit or whatever, which was I would one day marry a man and have children. Great way to make a kid feel like they have failed at life if they don't want to a). marry a man, and b). have children 10/10 parenting there, mormons. /s

@jbcluff1895 6 месяцев назад

And that's okay. They can't tell you you need to because you are your own person.

@bradycall1889 6 месяцев назад

I'm a Mormon who only wants 3 kids, which is more than most people. I don't judge other Mormons who want lots of kids, and I don't find it immoral or selfish necessarily, but I do find it rather odd that some Mormons have so many kids. Who wants to have a boatload of kids to look after 24/7? I certainly don't lol.

@GeseppiOoodblast 6 месяцев назад

You just have each kid in charge of watching another kid bam problems solved lol@@bradycall1889

@katelynruth31 7 месяцев назад

Woah woah woah, wait a minute Martha and Mary Magdalene AND Mary? Are they trying to say Jesus married his mom!? Are they confusing Jesus with Oedipus!?

@floptaxie68 7 месяцев назад

Mary seems to have been a popular name backthen, there was another Mary apart from Jesus mom

@josephjohnson247 6 месяцев назад

Mary, the sister of Martha. Not the Virgin Mary.

@bradycall1889 6 месяцев назад

Mormons never said that Jesus married his mom. I'm a Mormon myself.

@teijaflink2226 6 месяцев назад

There where more than one Mary in the Bible. One was Martha's sister, then Mary Magdalene (or rather Mary from Magdalene/Magdala) and then of course Jesus Mother.

@florian8599 6 месяцев назад

Mary, the sister of Martha and Lazarus.

@jade-tea-h 7 месяцев назад

Former mormon here: I'm impressed! The research you did yourself was very well done, primarily using the mormon church's own sources it seems. You were also very intellectually honest to acknowledge several times how many of these teachings have been disavowed (or more likely, quietly avoided until members forget they used to be doctrine). Most nevermo videos I've seen either bug me with small errors mixed in, stuff from mispronunciations that just annoy me to small misconceptions or half-truths that usually come from fundie evangelical christians trying to discredit mormons. It always bugs me because like, there's obviously plenty of legitimate criticism!! I think they just can't criticize from the obvious channels very well because their faith has similar, if less extreme, problems. Anyway, as far as I can tell you nailed basically everything and weren't trying to misconstrue any of the weirdness, just took it as it was. I even learned something, which I don't very often from nevermos after a while deconstructing and going down rabbit holes, I didn't know that they used to teach Jesus was polygamist. Side note: I typed a super long response to the one mormon who tried to criticize the video in a comment but they deleted it and now I'm sad.

@Morstorpod 7 месяцев назад

He deleted it? Bummer, that must mean that my comment is gone now too! Sucks when somebody confronts you with factual information you don't like.

@knightsimmer 6 месяцев назад

Turn to Christ ✝️

@Decision_Justice 5 месяцев назад

@@Morstorpod Don't responses to Main comments, after the Main comment is deleted, just end up as stand-alone comments?

@Morstorpod 5 месяцев назад

@@Decision_Justice @user-cjl3bjc0cms8 No idea. I have only recently begun to comment on RU-vid videos, so I am unaware of the procedures involved. Never went to check if it was deleted or if it became a standalone comment (did not know that may have been an option).

@sophialouisa2232 Месяц назад

my reaction throughout the video 9:23

@XenoChron2 9 дней назад

Yes!

@richlisola1 7 месяцев назад

At least JWs attempt to use the Bible to justify their beliefs. Mormons are even flakier. I studied with two eighteen year old elders. The only proof they could offer me was to “pray on it.”

@rogerandre7775 7 месяцев назад

Les TJ n'utilisent pas la bible mais la T M N rien a voir

@heathyenna5345 6 месяцев назад

What beliefs are so weird with the Bible as source material? As compared to other Christian sects, what is weird?

@gilnopvariko 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, and, before asking you to pray, they show you the book of Alma chapter 32

@stmp4160 6 месяцев назад

@@heathyenna5345hm idk, God is not eternal as the Bible teaches So many times? How there are other gods ignoring a Ton of the OT and God's word in doing so and also We becoming gods? Again ignoring a Ton of the OT and what God said.

@numberbirb7728 6 месяцев назад

18 year old elders? 👀

@sundiefortner2245 7 месяцев назад

Thanks so much for this! I am an ex-mo and I love that you are sharing our craziness with your followers. I feel like ex-jw are our cousins and I watch your channel religiously. (Pun intended). Keep up the good work!

@theblackpearl3880 5 месяцев назад

What's the explanation for the Asian race? Angels who did mathematics?

@nick_dizzle 6 месяцев назад

South park told it better lol

@sudosuga 7 месяцев назад

Exmo here. @19:30 Regarding "Castration". That doctrine is affectionately referred to as the TK smoothie. I.E. Telestial Kingdom (Bottom tier heaven), Smoothie (Barbie and Ken style genitalia). The Celestial Kingdom (Top tier Heaven) is for the polygamists and their servants (the monogamist Mormons) and uh... the Curse of Ham people who were also good Mormons.

@bendyrland7213 7 месяцев назад

Didn't one of the more modern prophets coin this term? TK Smoothie.

@EmberEvermore 7 месяцев назад

Haha I was searching the comments for another ex-mo to mention the TK Smoothie ~ Yep! Another lovely addition by one of our geriatric prophets

@fordan_gamsy3521 7 месяцев назад

@@bendyrland7213I think the tk smoothie as a concept is fairly old, at least as old as the 70s or 80s. I think that recent mention you may have heard was ol' creationist heart surgeon Russel Nelson (aka skeletor or mr burns) sometime last year gave a talk "think celestial" where he alludes to "telestial bodies" as a unsavory outcome for the afterlife. The whole point of the talk was more "don't look outside, don't think how you want, think how we want. Don't worry about this life, give it to us in hopes of heaven" Truly horrifying stuff if you pay enough attention to the doublespeak.

@Decision_Justice 5 месяцев назад

@@fordan_gamsy3521 "Mr. Burns"

@devostarfield4244 4 месяца назад

Yup… it’s true… if you don’t make it to the top kingdom, the celestial kingdom, you will not be allowed to procreate in the eternities and thus you lose your balls and get a nice tk smoothie. Here’s the quote from Joseph Fielding Smith "In both of these kingdoms there will be changes in the bodies and limitations. Some of the functions in the celestial body will not appear in the terrestrial body, neither in the telestial body, and the power of procreation will be removed. I take it that men and women will, in these kingdoms, be...neither man nor woman, merely immortal beings having received the resurrection." -Doctrines of salvation, vol 2.

@noirxl2532 6 месяцев назад

18:47 I lost the challenge im mormon now

@Phantasmarae 7 месяцев назад

Celestial Sex? This religion is a little strange.

@BerryBoyXD 6 месяцев назад

I'm mormon and have never heard of it

@surrealpsalms 6 месяцев назад

@@BerryBoyXDMaybe that was for a reason.

@Dfthg-bz3hp 6 месяцев назад

Sounds alot like PIgslam

@Dfthg-bz3hp 6 месяцев назад

Islam*

@ropatiatuaia 6 месяцев назад

@@BerryBoyXD same

@RinkuStars 7 месяцев назад

It’s always so odd to me seeing people who were never Mormon experience Mormon doctrine from an outside perspective. I grew up very Mormon and currently can’t leave (I want to though)

@OperaGhost-5 7 месяцев назад

What makes you want to leave?

@RinkuStars 7 месяцев назад

@@OperaGhost-5 why wouldn't I want to leave?? I'm going to assume you are LDS. I HIGHLY recommend reading the CES letter. You'll probably see it as "anti", but genuinely, it brings up real points and questions about doctrine and church history that no real loving god would ever allow. The Mormon church is a church that tells its members to ask questions, but discourages real answers. Not to mention the very clear sexist and raciest teachings. Women are not equal to men in the Mormon church. God's real church would not belittle and discriminate against any of his children. Not to mention that the LDS church is very anti LGBTQ+ and I cannot support an organization that instills guilt, shame and fears into its members for being who they are. It's like telling people that we let red heads into our church, but only if they dye their hair blond. It's discriminatory and gross. The LDS church likes to perpetuate the idea that it gives you freedom from guilt and remission for you sins, but in reality it fosters those feeling in the first place. You should not have to feel guilty about who you love, who you are, or what you look like. Not to mention that the Book of Mormon is provably false and a work of fiction made up by Joseph Smith. Genuinely, if you do even 10 minutes of research you can find PROOF that the BOM is not a literal work. That is more proof than we will ever have of it being true. I recommend looking into the origins of the book of Abraham in the pearl of great price and the actual literal translation of the original papyri (as was kind of mentioned in this video). That was not an inspired translation. And if Joseph Smith got it wrong that time whose to say he ever had it correct in the first place? I hope this inspires some self discovery and deep reflection in you. Deconstruction of Mormonism is difficult but will ultimately be for you're benefit. I was once a true believer like you... I genuinely wish you well.

@RinkuStars 7 месяцев назад

@@OperaGhost-5 why would I want to stay in a church that is founded on homophobic, sexist, racist doctrines? if you literally do more than 10 minutes of research (beyond just LDS sources) it is pretty easy to prove the Book of Mormon to be a work of fiction. Jospeh smith was a con man and even 200 years later he continues to fool millions of people. If you are actually interested in learning more about the lies that the Mormon church continues to perpetuate, I recommend you read the CES letter, or at the very least look into the origin of the book of Abraham. If it's easy to prove that one of Joseph smith's translations was false, how are we supposed to believe in any of his others?

@doubleedgedfist1535 6 месяцев назад

I hope you get the opportunity to move away from these animals.

@doms5755 6 месяцев назад

Currently can’t leave. That’s when you know it’s an cult

@oneghost1257 7 месяцев назад

Sorry Panda, they got to me a long time ago. Ever since the MC Hammer Mormon Jesus remix. My favorite cute thing Joseph Smith did was translate all of his texts in KJV English using a lot of stuff we know was mistranslated now

@skyemecham9392 5 месяцев назад

I was raised mormon, and as a child I used to fantasize about what my planet would look like. I hadn't quite figured out yet that as a woman, I was there to make babies, not planets. So glad I left.

@randylplampin1326 6 месяцев назад

I remind all of you that Jesus said there was no marriage in heaven (Matthew 22:30), not anything about sex. We can all complain bitterly about this but this is fact. And do not accuse me of saying that there is sex in heaven. That is not what I said.

@numberbirb7728 6 месяцев назад

This man has a point 👀

@Decision_Justice 5 месяцев назад

Mormons interpret that verse differently

@NathanKnight-kc7yj 4 месяца назад

I’m a member and you are correct, there is no marriage in heaven in the sense you cant have the ceremony in heaven. If your marry on earth and are sealed to that person, then you are forever sealed to that person unless something happens where you choose to separate

@randylplampin1326 4 месяца назад

Mormon theology is pure junk as far as I am concerned.

@Decision_Justice 4 месяца назад

@@NathanKnight-kc7yj Why can't you have the Ceremony in Heaven? Seems to me that if God wants us to be happy and we are in Heaven and fall in love with a dear person, we should be allowed to be married. Eternity is a long time, so why can't we have a Ceremony in Heaven?

@gringoisdead 6 месяцев назад

Former mormon here. I clicked on this video waiting to hear a lot of BS because this cartoon is full of twisted facts but I'm impressed with your research because you got almost everything right. i don't care to correct the few mistakes that you made, but the only thing I think is critical to correct is that they believe Jospeh Smith did more than any other men to the salvation of men EXCEPT Jesus, not including Jesus. And the other mistakes I don't think changes a lot on the overall view on the religion that you presented here. Good job!

@Decision_Justice 5 месяцев назад

Yes, it should say "except." The writer of this sentence was probably using Joseph Smith's famous boast he made in an 1844 Sunday Sermon: “I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, NOR JESUS ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.” (Proclaimed by Joseph Smith, Jr., History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409

@dreibel 5 месяцев назад

@@Decision_Justicethe irony of that statement: a few months after making it, Ol’ Joe was chased out of Kirtland, Ohio, by angry members after a banking scheme he cooked up went awry and they lost their shirts. The members then tried him, declared him a false prophet and excommunicated him. Now in Missouri, Joe retaliated and excommunicated them.

@kingkat8080 6 месяцев назад

12:53 You don't say.

@voxveritas333 6 месяцев назад

It all boils down to money, money,money. Endless celestial sex sounds like something a teenager would dream up, which Joseph Smith was when he started this cult. Keep those tithes coming, folks.

@TheArtis4n 5 месяцев назад

Endless Carnal Sex can be attained with..... wait for it.... Money. The money you get from your congregation, where a select few are polygamous. Crazy huh 😂

@melorca1962 5 месяцев назад

money, and honeys. In Joseph Smith's case especially. When you are The Prophet Of God, you can get any honey in your cult to obey you.

@GenesisSurovov 5 месяцев назад

I think with cult leaders like this Their cult of personality in the being the leader of god chosen group with themselves being looked up to by many as special and above others ends up becoming the motivating factor

@jeb6314 4 месяца назад

Joe had no less than 42 wives.

@sarahr1269 6 месяцев назад

Ok, but why does the Mormon Elohim story sound like Zeus from Greek mythology? I mean think about it: Zeus has multiple goddess-like wives and impregnates human women. Elohim has Heavenly Mother and other "divine wives" but also comes down to earth to impregnate Mary? I know there's probably no direct relation but the resemblance is uncanny.

@dominikdurkovsky8318 4 месяца назад

Greek mythology: I I Greek mythology if zeus kept it in his pants: I I

@fordan_gamsy3521 7 месяцев назад

Growing up mormon, i always hated that their "heavenly mother" was off limits for prayer or worship. I have writings from female ancestors musing about her. It almost felt like the leadership was carefully avoiding her to fit in with evangelical types and avoid giving women their due. It felt very cynical and was one of many reasons i left.

@ovp3606 6 месяцев назад

Did these writings contain any info about worshipping her? I’m currently looking into paganism and Asherah was one of the goddesses I was interested in (besides Freyja)

@fordan_gamsy3521 6 месяцев назад

@@ovp3606 not really, there is little to no official info from the church, Joseph Smith made heavenly mother up to manipulate women. Some of the writings I have are more questions than info about her. Others assert things about her through reading extra info out of other Mormon materials that do not mention her. Unfortunately searching for the Mormon mother goddess is pretty fruitless even when you have some proximity to church history. May I suggest if you are looking for a cool "mother goddess" figure, turn to the Atrahasis flood myth for "Nintu"/"Mami" who weeps for humanity on the steps of the sky god's palace during the flood, very moving story, was everything I would want from that kind of "mother goddess" character.

@fordan_gamsy3521 6 месяцев назад

@@ovp3606 unfortunately I do not think Joseph Smith was aware of asherah, thus mormon heavenly mother could not be a syncretization of asherah. I believe his logic was "if we have sky daddy, why no sky mommy?" And then he failed to incorporate anything beyond "doctrine and covenants 132" to canonize her. So the writings I have are mostly poetry or speculation pulled out of scriptures that have nothing to do with a heavenly mother. I too am deeply interested in goddesses, one I would suggest that I am somewhat moved by is "Nintu"/"Mami" from the Mesopotamian "Atrahasis" flood myth. She weeps for humanity on the steps of the sky god's palace as the flood rages.

@professorhaystacks6606 6 месяцев назад

@@fordan_gamsy3521 Ashera is in the OT, so there's no way he could not have been aware. Ashera is made a false god in the OT, though, and the Caananite notions of her as the wife of the king of the gods (which is why her poles were put up next to the 'high places' of the israelite god) were not so widely known back then.

@fordan_gamsy3521 6 месяцев назад

@@professorhaystacks6606 It's how Joseph Smith talks about her that tips me off that Joseph wasn't thinking of asherah. He never says her name, he incorporates "eternal polygamy" which would necessitate multiple (likely infinite) wives for God, there are musings from subsequent prophets that God "married" jesus' mother Mary to legitimize that interaction. Mormons look down on Canaanite culture as a symbol of depravity. I think if anything, joe may have heard the words "god had a wife" then he stopped listening and just ran with that idea.

@dreibel 6 месяцев назад

Exmo here. You should be aware that this is from a movie called The God Makers, which was shown at many Christian churches in the late eighties, as a warning about how EEEEEEVIL the Mormons were. It did have enough of an impact that the Mormon Church went and changed the temple ceremonies in the 1990s to remove some of the more odious aspects of it - and are still changing to this day. Be aware that the maker of this film, Ed Decker, is considered by many to be a charlatan - even exMormons have nothing good to say about him. He did a second movie, God Makers 2, in which he and the film makers made unfounded claims that the then President of the Church, Gordon Hinckley, was involved in gay drug orgies - for which they were sued by Hinckley. If you want to have a great chuckle, check out the three part interview Decker did on the Mormon Stories podcast - the guy comes across all big I and little you, makes all sorts of suspect claims (he claims that the Church sent agents to poison his diet Coke! He denies that he committed adultery, despite what his first wife and a court of law proved. He claims that B'Nai Brith putting out a statement condemning his film as being hateful, was rigged, claiming that their board was actually packed with Mormons! Uh Huh.)

@visaman 6 месяцев назад

Oh yes Ed Decker. I remember the interview he did with Bob Larson back in the day. I confronted a pair of Mormons who came to door one day with what Decker and Larson were saying. I am so embarrassed by that.

@enigma9971 6 месяцев назад

Isn't the entire Mormon religion a charlatan religion though?

@mistermagoo8685 5 месяцев назад

No man Ed Decker was right though. Notice how he also made a movie about the JWs and they still seem normal compared to your crazy people. The Mormon religion is nuts and disgusting.

@sirblue5586 4 месяца назад

Yeah as a member of the LDS church all this is bullshit. Thank you for clearing light on this

@alomaalber6514 Месяц назад

Orson Scott Card has a box set of his fiction, great writer. I think he is LDS. They had education for their members.

@joestar6194 6 месяцев назад

"The crazy shit i believe in is true because it's what I was taught as a child. But the crazy shit others believe in are lies" Almost every human being

@enigma9971 6 месяцев назад

I've seen so much evidence that shows Christianity is legit. Look into it on your own and draw your own conclusions

@joestar6194 6 месяцев назад

@@enigma9971 I've studying Christian Mythology for many years.

@BookAndLace 5 месяцев назад

THIS! I've studied comparative religions and find the Catholic church to be the craziest. All the "miracles", visions, self-abuse in the name of God, and countless centuries of justified killing. **shakes head** most faiths are full of WTF.

@joestar6194 5 месяцев назад

@@BookAndLace Indeed 🙏

@AmbyJeans 5 месяцев назад

That’s why i love that my parents raised us without religion and watched us form our own beliefs. My brother is a staunch atheist, I’m agnostic and my sister is Unitarian

@chaucernerd1690 6 месяцев назад

Dude, I’m impressed. I used to be mormon and have come across so many videos like this that are full of mistakes that could be easily identified with a google search. You did a great job, as always.

@Joshe1967 6 месяцев назад

@@robertashcraft2859 When the original of this video came out and when I was a missionary about 40 years ago, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had approx. 5 to 6+ million members worldwide. It also had approx. 35,000 full-time missionaries. Today, in 2024, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has 17+ million members throughout the world and 100,000+ missionaries (Full-time, Senior (Older Adults), and Service). Approx half of the Church are people of color. In Fact, Africa is the fasting growing area of the Church today. All that this type of films and other ANTI LDS propaganda have done is pique the interest of those that are truly seeking for truth. The humble and the sincere seekers of truth will wonder why (which many have done) is this The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints the most persecuted Christian Church by other Christian Churches today. Why are so many films, movies, plays, news reports, RU-vid channels, and other social media platforms portraying The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in a mostly negative way. One has to think. Wait, I’ve worked or gone to school, or been associated with many active members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka Mormons). They (for the most part) were very nice, helpful, friendly, genuine people. They don’t drink (Alcohol), don’t smoke, don’t swear, etc. They are industrious, they work hard, they are (for the most part) happy people. They believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior. They believe in loving God and Jesus Christ by servicing others and striving to live their lives as a believer in Jesus Christ, keeping His commandments, serving others, and being doers of the word and not hearers only. Of course, in the Church there are a few (active) that do not live by what they are taught. My family has been in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for 7 generations (this includes my grandchildren) in Hawaii since the 1870s. The Church 1st sent missionaries to the Hawaiian Islands in 1850, 3 years after they went to Utah having to flee into Indian/Mexican territory due to so much persecution (slander, bigotry, tarred and feathered, rape, killing, driven out at gun point, etc.). Many of my ancestors were darker then some of the Blacks today. The Church grew quickly in the Polynesian Islands (Hawaii, Tahiti, Tonga, Samoa, Fiji, etc.).

@Joshe1967 6 месяцев назад

@@robertashcraft2859 The internet and secularism have definitely ruined many Christian Churches (Catholic, Orthodox, Mainline Protestant Churches). A new Gallup Poll came out yesterday that shows the overall religious service weekly attendance has gone down from 42% in the early 2000s to 30% today (2023). The Catholic church has seen the largest decline at -12%, followed by the Orthodox at -9%. The Protestants have seen a decline of -4%. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has seen a decline of -1%. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has the highest weekly attendance at 67%, followed by Protestants at 44%. Catholic weekly attendances stands at 33%. Source: Gallup WELLBEING MARCH 25, 2024 Church Attendance Has Declined in Most U.S. Religious Groups Three in 10 U.S. adults attend religious services regularly, led by Mormons at 67% BY JEFFREY M. JONES Other Surveys on LDS Show: - "Are Latter-day Saint Marriages More Stable?" Times and Seasons, October 19, 2021 9% of Latter-day Saints identified as divorced. Catholics (15%), Buddhists (16%), Evangelical Protestants (17%), Historically Black Protestants (30%), Jehovah’s Witnesses (15%), Jews (12%), Mainline Protestants (15%), Muslims (15%), Orthodox Christians (13%), and Unaffiliated (17%). - Most Churches are Losing Members Fast - But Not the Mormons. Here’s Why. In an era of declining faith, Mormon membership is holding steady. Daniel A. Cox March 6, 2019 While the structure of the LDS Church, which relies on volunteer leadership at the local level, requires an active membership, there is an upside to the obligations of religious community. In an era marked by unprecedented religious decline, Mormons appear to be holding their own. more than the rules, rituals, and rigorous theology, the success of the Mormon Church may have to do with their unrelenting focus on the family. A 2015 Pew Research report shows that Mormons are more likely to be married and to have larger families than other Christians. Roughly two-thirds (66%) of Mormons are married, compared to only about half (52 percent) of Christians overall. Mormons are more likely to marry within their faith than members of most other religious traditions: 82 percent of married Mormons report that their spouse is also Mormon. And Mormon families are large even compared to other Christian traditions, averaging 3.4 children compared to 2.2. children for all Christian households. Among the 350 families he studied, no religious group was more effective in passing on their religious identity and beliefs to their children than Mormons. - Survey: Latter-day Saints are everywhere in media, but Americans still know little about them Published: Nov 5, 2022, 9:00 p.m. MDT The quiz about church beliefs and practices included polygamy. Missing two or more answers was considered a failing score. Here is the quiz: Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) ... Can live with more than one wife (false) Can’t eat chocolate (false) Can’t drink alcohol (true) Can’t have blood transfusions (false) Believe Christ is the Son of God (true) The survey found that those who said they like Latter-day Saints scored three times higher on the quiz than those who said they disliked church members. Those with a college degree scored 78% higher than those without a college degree.

@melorca1962 5 месяцев назад

@@robertashcraft2859 the LDS church has taken a more aggressive tactics in an attempt to plausibly deny "uncomfortable accusations". The Mormon Stories Podcast has discusses some of these from time to time. It's really crazy.

@darkphoenixreborn1154 5 месяцев назад

@@melorca1962 Mormon stories Podcast is very Anti-Mormon. a lot of the information they give is a misleading, twisted version of the truth, much like this video.

@kdaviper 5 месяцев назад

The series Joseph's Myth is a nice dissection of the book of Mormon and history of the LDS.

@domj.2406 6 месяцев назад

0:49 if Jesus is gonna look at me like that I'll become anything 🥵

@goodthinkmqn1234 Месяц назад

Gyatt

@Jones-pj2jk 6 месяцев назад

8:15 that knock on the door and seeing the rizz in Elohim's eyes converted me to Mormonism. How do i get the special underwear?

@brushwolf 5 месяцев назад

6:36; I fell out of my chair! I fell out of MY CHAIR! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@niccovisconti1712 5 месяцев назад

"If you believe a 19th century man found some golden tablets then translated them into 17th century english then conveniently lost them. Your barking mad"! Richard Dawkins

@LostArchivist 4 месяца назад

Never thought I would agree with Dr Dawkins on something, I don't even consider his Selfish Gene theory accurate since it requires genes to act in a way as though they have agency or at least imitates that with no real reason that is not better explained by ordinary biological, biochemical and mathematical factors. And just seems edgy honestly. But I do rather agree with his assessment of Joseph Smith's account even if I would be more charitable about it.