Mormon Afterlife Explained (A Flowchart for your Soul)

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An afterlife so complex you have to rely on a flowchart to explain it? Polygamy in heaven? A veil of forgetfulness? Getting your own planet? I cover it all and more in this episode all about the Mormon afterlife.
My research for today’s episode has also inspired me to start a band called “Sons of Perdition.” Our first album will be titled “Outer Darkness” and the hit single off the album will be “Lucifer’s Groupies.” I am searching for a drummer, bassist, and clarinet player. DM with inquiries.
*Mormon doctrine on becoming like God: (www.churchofjesuschrist.org/s...)
*Mormon doctrine on the plan of salvation, also known as the plan of happiness:
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*Wikipedia about the Celestial Kingdom: (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celesti...)
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*CES Letter, a common tool used to deconstruct Mormonism: (cesletter.org/CES-Letter.pdf)
*My book, How to Leave the Mormon Church: An Exmormon's Guide for Rebuilding After Religion: (www.amazon.com/How-Leave-Morm...)
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@alyssadgrenfell Месяц назад

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@chrismartinez8393 Месяц назад

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@juliawirch2454 Месяц назад

They only help if you have over $10,000 in debt. I found this out after giving out all my info of course...😒. Yay more junk mail and solicitor calls!

@ShonIzAmeriki Месяц назад

I heard a member say her parents told her that babies cry at birth because their pre mortal body is being crushed and compressed to fit into such a small earthly vessel. Mormon lore really is wild.

@alyssadgrenfell Месяц назад

Can confirm I have also heard stories like this haha

@desertels5119 Месяц назад

That's really f*cked up

@schmidtcs Месяц назад

😮

@itsROMPERS... Месяц назад

Well, it doesn't make any less sense than the rest of it.

@shermannorton8723 Месяц назад

At least that explanation invalidates the Mormon stance on abortion 😂

@aloesecretinc Месяц назад

This is where multi level marketing came from.

@kratino Месяц назад

EXACTLY what I was thinking!

@Ganondorfdude11 Месяц назад

Why do you think so many Mormons are involved in Herbalife and Lularoe?

@hellmind1304 Месяц назад

🔥

@PrincessDiana1220 Месяц назад

Omg you’re right!

@songbird1307 Месяц назад

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@ritchiemx7391 Месяц назад

You know, I’m beginning to think this was all just made up.

@trishgreydanus7004 Месяц назад

You made me laugh out loud

@chaldus87 29 дней назад

No, seems legit, like all other religions.

@apolloskyfacer5842 28 дней назад

You think ?

@Twan420 20 дней назад

The ONLY way to the Father is through Jesus. False prophets will lead u astray. God bless

@anthonymonge7815 19 дней назад

@@Twan420you believe that with all your might. Just like Mormons believe this wild stuff. Been there. Done that. Religion is a poison.

@miknrene Месяц назад

"God decided that Jesus Christ was going to be his favorite child ... and so he told Satan to go pound sand. Satan was a little butt-hurt." OMFG, I'm choking LOL here.

@miknrene Месяц назад

Describing cremation as a "Humpty Dumpty situation" LOLOLOLOL

@yvettejones5323 Месяц назад

Right? I was dying of laughter lol

@paulpinecone2464 Месяц назад

Look, those are the words that God instructed the profit to write down. We don't question it.

@timriehl1500 Месяц назад

Continuing in the After Life to serve a man who believes he is a god sounds like another type of hell, lol.

@amberinthemist7912 Месяц назад

It would be the worst sex ever. The more arrogant and full of himself he is out of bed the worse he is in bed.

@douglasyoung927 Месяц назад

@@amberinthemist7912 😂😂 I can't stop thinking about it now. I'm just imagining this guy: He's a self proclaimed * capital 'A' * architect accountant that genuinely believes he can make animals and trees better than the last god did so that his vast progeny can be tested and 20 percent of them can return with their heads held high. "Come forth, my proud and beautiful sons and share in my eternal glory.. (no homo)"

@marjoriegarner5369 Месяц назад

@@amberinthemist7912I can testify to the truth of your comment. Selfish Mormon man, selfish sex.

@mimimaitri1 Месяц назад

@@amberinthemist7912I mean just look at the Heavenly Mother(s). Untold amounts of God sex, then giving birth to billions of babies. All so the babies can worship the husband.

@AntonioTheTurtle Месяц назад

And just the husband

@tmc4642 Месяц назад

I’m thankful my born-Mormon Grandma flipped this bonkers board game off our family’s proverbial table.

@stephengnb Месяц назад

I thoroughly enjoy the imagery you use. 🔥

@LadyMcMasternap Месяц назад

Mine too 🎉 my Gma said nope when she turned 18

@jimgreen242 Месяц назад

Well done Grandma!

@chrismiller5198 Месяц назад

And, growing up Protestant, I thought Catholicism was weird.

@phillipsnichole2857 Месяц назад

But don't you want to be a super creative sci-fi writer?🛸🔮

@afr11235 Месяц назад

So, basically, the Mormon church is an MLM. If you tithed enough to get to our super-platinum level, not only do you get to go to heaven, but you have a chance at a lucky drawing for your own planet! I mean, I thought scientology came up with some wackadoodle beliefs, but this stuff is really up there! The real question: will Xenu be sent to outer darkness or the telestial kingdom?

@oliviawolcott8351 Месяц назад

it may be the original MLM. but it also explains why so many mormons are a part of MLMs.

@tinygardentomato 10 дней назад

As a member of the church, this is a satirical video. Not even all the information is accurate. When I go to learn about Budishm or Islam, I don't look up videos making fun of them. I like to be respected, so I try to respect others. Simple as that.

@0dhowel 6 дней назад

Christian churches also believe in tithing...its not a mormon thing

@justkiddin84 6 дней назад

⁠@@0dhowel Not good churches. God does not need money. I have been to a number of churches, and most of them pass the plate and you give a bit to help upkeep the building and pay the minister, secretary, and organ player. If you have no money to give, you are still welcome, and will be fed. Tithing is different, and is very wrong. If you don’t pay, not only are you not welcome, you are destined for Hell, and shunned. Cults tithe. Churches do not. Christ tore down the money lenders at the temple because money is evil. The LDS has hundreds of billions of dollars invested in corporations. The tithes are not used for what the folks giving are told it will be used for. Huge Temples, political and corporate power are the aim. It is blasphemous.

@justkiddin84 6 дней назад

@@tinygardentomatoYou should actually look into main stream Christianity. At bibles not printed by the LDS. At the actual history of the LDS-because you do not understand your own ‘church.’ This is not disrespect to you, but to leaders who lie to you and all the members about, oh, Joseph Smith being polygamous (he was), about what they do with your money, about why you need special underwear. Joseph Smith was a blasphemer of the worst kind. He twisted the Bible and the words of Christ to create a cult and have people worship him, rather than God. He took the wives of other men. He lied. A lot of the symbols and wording is from various sources, including Gnostic texts, Enochian magic, the Kabbalah, and other non-Christian sources. Really. It is a cult.

@TheCripeCrew Месяц назад

I had my own experience with the sci-fi/fantasy and Mormon connection. I was an adult convert and when the missionaries learned I also played D&D they were quite excited. They said being Mormon was like playing D&D with my life. Instead of leveling up my gaming character I could level up my soul. 😂 I really fell for the whole “families are forever” thing. After I was baptized there was immense pressure put on me to get my husband and children to convert. I was told that they would go to the Terrestrial Kingdom and that I would be assigned a new husband and new children in the Celestial Kingdom. How is that families are forever?

@MossyMozart Месяц назад

When I was in the church, missionaries were taught that it was perfectly acceptable to _"lie for the lord"_ , that if a -mark- ......uh... _potential new member_ asked a question you did not want to answer (like about these more bizarre beliefs), redirect and answer a question you wished they asked. Telling me that it was okay to lie infuriated me! Manipulative hypocrites.

@nilus2k Месяц назад

Honestly that was way more enlightened about D&D than my Catholic upbringing. But that was also the late 80s and the Satanic Panic was still a big deal. My parents were fine with D&D but I got in trouble if I brought D&D books to CCD

@klowen7778 28 дней назад

Yeah, always wondered why there's apparently so many Mormon Sci-Fi & Fantasy writers... and BTW, wasn't Glen Larson, the creator of Battlestar Galactica (with its lost home planet of Kobol, aka, Kolob), also a Mormon?

@shapeshifter1825 26 дней назад

@@MossyMozart excuse me, WHAT? It is okay to lie and manipulate? Isn't that the devil's way of obtaining what he wants from you??

@tinygardentomato 10 дней назад

I'm a member of the church, and I also served a mission. I, personally, have never been taught that's it's ok to "lie for the Lord." I'm sorry that that is what you ran into, however. Also, while this video is correct on some things, on others, it isn't. Also, it is a very comical video. When I want to learn about Islam, Buddhism, or any other belief, I don't look to comical videos making fun of their beliefs. Sure, you can make fun of us, but please, actually read up on the religion before you decide you know what it's about. Also, I sure as hell am not going to worship my husband. Pardon ny language. 😂

@brittanysabia6317 Месяц назад

The lore is so good. I totally get why people stay in the church just to play the the game of “Who Wants to Have Their Own Planet” 😅

@snowdroog1 Месяц назад

Old Joe Smith really knew how to work it. Being steeped in freemasonry helped.

@monkut Месяц назад

So you get to be with your family, but can have your own planet? What if your other family members have thier own planet, too? Do you get a spaceship to visit your family on other planets? Or maybe they get teleportation, that would be cool.

@MossyMozart Месяц назад

AND, _bonus points_ , you *also* get to be a God as you work your way up the heavenly ladder!! So, instead of a mere 72 virgins for Islamic martyrs, the LDS guy has "bill-yons and bill-yons" in a Carl Sagan voice.

@arneedlund8512 Месяц назад

@@monkutmake no seans. Only if you don't want to think. And who want to be the new Jesus and have to be torture to death? Not me 😊 Mormons gods are all evil then.

@orisonorchards4251 Месяц назад

Unless you're a woman. Only men get to create planets and HAVE harems. Women just get to be the harem, eternally pregnant to populate the planets her husband (her God) is making. Many GC talks have TOLD women their husbands are their Gods.

@mimimaitri1 Месяц назад

I can’t imagine how much psychological pressure this puts on people. The stakes are so high and it sounds so competitive.

@milesbrown2261 Месяц назад

It was insane. When my cousins left the church I weeped because I loved my cousin he was my best friend and I wanted to be able to see him in the afterlife and be gods together and shit. Now I know better and that it’s silly but there was a time where I genuinely hoped he and his family would come back and would beg god to let them join me in the “””celestial kingdom”””

@Skank_and_Gutterboy Месяц назад

No doubt, I can almost forgive some of the grief that they put me through in college. They sure worry about a lot of CRAP.

@juliawestwood7025 Месяц назад

It’s honestly a hell within itself. Every decision you make, you’ll think about how it effects not only you, but your entire family too. It’s bonkers and I’m so glad to have that burden off of my shoulders

@katholicmom Месяц назад

It’s very crazy. Growing up I was told that even though I descended from the laminates (I’m Cherokee aka Native American) and my skin is olive that as I grew up the more righteous I was the whiter my skin would become. True story. I’m from a very white very Mormon family in Utah and I became Catholic. None of my family will “visit” me in heaven

@bunnybgood411 Месяц назад

Utah is Prozac Nation. Depression runs deep; no one can live up to the pressure to be perfect. Pharmaceuticals use is big in the Beehive State.

@sambonnett6451 Месяц назад

i never knew just how far removed mormonism truly is from christianity 😭😭 love the vids alyssa, although i’ve never been mormon i grew up southern baptist and your videos very much help me feel less alone in my deconstruction!

@johnl2727 28 дней назад

I agree!!!

@TheGallicWitch Месяц назад

hey! I worked as a sound engineer, that buzzing sound around the 26-min mark is usually caused by nearby electronics turning on and/or receiving a network transmission. So for ex, when I would be on set for documentaries in people's homes, the first thing we would do when coming in is turn off the wi-fi, unplug the television, radio, electronic clock, whatever, and either turn off every single phone in the room or at least put them on airplane mode. If anyone gets a text, if the wi-fi has a fluctuation, if the tv is on stand-by, pretty much any electronic that's in the same room as your mic, has the very real potential of causing this very specific kind of buzzing. So if you don't want it to happen in the future, make sure you turn off everything before starting to film!

@MossyMozart Месяц назад

@TheGallicWitch - thank you for the lesson. I appreciate it.

@benthomas9776 24 дня назад

That's a lot less fun of an explanation than demonic interference 😂

@yikes4501 13 дней назад

the more you know ⭐️🌈

@barislovescats Месяц назад

I urgently need a board game for mormon afterlife. As an atheist, this is great entertainment 😭

@kratino Месяц назад

Similar to Chutes and Ladders. . .

@Mess_of_a_Maniac Месяц назад

So true bro

@Seanyexwest Месяц назад

Go to spirit prison card, do not pass go, do not collect magic underwear

@sandyrice3559 Месяц назад

@@Seanyexwest😂

@humboldthammer Месяц назад

Consider this: There is no hell for the man-beast who never knows God. But if you choose the ascension journey, you should know, that way, there be hell. Hell was not made for men and women. Hell was made for those immortal beings -- either created immortal or who attain immortality -- who then turn against God -- and for whom the only known method of death, is the judgement of the Ancients of Days. And because Eternity has neither beginning nor end -- in the outworking of Eternity -- it will be as if one never was. Final judgement for the devil and dragon (Revelation 12: 12-13) is set for 10/10/26. Daniel 7: 9-14. As for the rest of us beasts, our lives shall be prolonged while the saints share Jesus' gospel of the brotherhood of all men and women with all the nations. And when two-thirds of the people UNDERSTAND with their hearts, THEN Jesus will return in GLORY -- as He promised -- and not to destroy. About 2160. But first, the devil intends to absolve himself by proving mankind unfit for God's kingdom with a worldwide war: God vs God vs Not God vs no god, in the Name of GAUD -- Grand Architect of Ur Destruction -- Abraham's Ur. It began in Israel on Oct. 7, 2023.

@paularodriguez726 Месяц назад

A flowchart for my soul??? I'm in

@alyssadgrenfell Месяц назад

Nerds everywhere are celebrating the Mormon afterlife 🤓

@fosterseth Месяц назад

it's like those choose your own adventure books. Turn to page 666 to enter the Outer Darkness

@STho205 Месяц назад

You could also be a Hindu or a Buddhist or a Mohammedist then as they also have a complex flowchart. The first two are a Do Loop with an eventual escape limit value.

@marlenezarah6501 Месяц назад

I really don't want to be ungayified or look like Barbie! I'll also probably get cremated and I doubt that Jesus will remember what I look like. I don't even want to imagine what he would make me look like 😂 All of the kingdoms sound like Hell to me. Can I just refuse being resurrected and stop existing when my time on earth is over, or float around as a spirit without a body somewhere in nothingness? Honestly outer darkness sounds so much cooler than the three kingdoms.

@STho205 Месяц назад

@@marlenezarah6501 a trinitarian Christian has faith in the eternal nature of the Triune God and the Father/Creator aspect created all of the Heavens and the Earth. They believe through faith and acceptance in The Way the Truth and the Light that they will unite with that after they die and are reborn as purified spirit. You likely believe nothing created the universe...it was just spontaneous and random and there is no providential order to it, just observable mathematical patterns. When you die your reason or consciousness will become nothing. So you both get exactly what you want. So next time you pass a Christian top your hat in a gesture of Free Will and choice. TomAto TOmato

@SarahAnnJohnson Месяц назад

I’m Southern Baptist and this blows my mind! I can’t imagine trying to keep up with all of this.

@anthonydelfino6171 Месяц назад

honestly it's the one bit of mormonism I thought was actually pleasant... there is no hell, just the question of do you want the good afterlife, the better afterlife, or the best afterlife

@forest_green Месяц назад

Imagine hearing about Christianity the first time lol

@conductorsearle Месяц назад

They just pay up and don't ask questions.

@merrygrammarian1591 26 дней назад

I live in a place where people hear about Christ for the first time quite frequently. One man said, "we don't want to live the way our ancestors lived, killing our wives and daughters for (presumed) witchcraft." As Christianity spreads, tribal wars have stopped, life expectancy is up, maternal mortality is down, women's literacy rates are up (that one holds a positive correlation with protestant missions on a global and historical level as far back as the early church), and tribal cannibalism is unheard of anymore. People hearing about Jesus for the first time do not respond how you think they would. They're typically overjoyed that they don't have to suffer for their gods to earn favor.

@bunnybgood411 Месяц назад

Alyssa, you are so entertaining! As an ex-mo myself, I just can't get enough of your channel. I was a Mormon from age 8 (in 1963) until I lost my faith at around 12-13 and stopped going to church at 14. Luckily, I wasn't forced to attend Mutual and I never went to Seminary. Once again, I am SO GLAD that I missed out on most of these crazy teachings. Good lord, as an artist/writer/ creative, a supercomputer could not have designed a religion more antithetical to my very being. Mormon heaven, with all the levels and mundane stuff, sounds like it was invented by bean counters. I can understand why mainstream Christians view Mormonism as blasphemous. So God is just some nice boy, maybe an accountant, from the planet Pflorg who made good and is only in charge of of our own universe. And we can become gods ourselves! Or rather, the men can. Note: that suited up, rapturous guy in the AI illustration looks like an in-the-closet young man straight out of the musical The Book Of Mormon. Keep up the good work, Alyssa!

@traciethomas3234 Месяц назад

Reminds me of the saying, ‘You can’t make this shit up!” Yes, you can!

@humboldthammer Месяц назад

I know that I can. Abraham was an El-ite -- not a Jew. He traced his ancestry to Seth, Adam's and Eve's son, who first taught men about god, EL. By faith, you are an El-ite, too. And WE (you too) have been tasked with the progressive perfection of Mankind -- God's composite of unique individuals with ascension promise -- even if it takes us all 6,488 years remaining in Abraham's 10,000-year Covenant, after Moses renegotiated face-to-face as friend, and 553 years were not counted against us. Man kind includes ALL OF US; from the first human pair, unto the last man or woman, and -- for those who pass the faith test -- onto the afterlife, we are ONE Creation, potentially, everlasting. For the individual, self-mastery is a worthy goal, especially, with an expanding sense of self as an everlasting child of God.

@thelexicon7294 13 дней назад

@@humboldthammerOut of all the wild beliefs out there, the notion that we’ve been around for a few thousand years is by far the wildest to me. 😅

@humboldthammer 13 дней назад

@@thelexicon7294 500,000 years ago they came to teach Neanderthal Man herding and husbandry. And all went well for about 300,000 years (cro magnon man) until Lucifer -- sovereign of over 600 evolutionary worlds -- declared Liberty from rule by a non-existent grand-father god, and ordered the Planetary Princes, like the one who remains on Earth, to do as they Willed.

@Danielle-zq7kb 9 дней назад

But not everyone can end up with millions who believe it!

@ArielaStrombeck Месяц назад

As someone who never wants kids, I'd rather be smooth down there than be expected to continually (and eternally) pump out children 🤣

@alyssadgrenfell Месяц назад

Yeah this is definitely an afterlife invented by a man who ended up secretly marrying 30+ women. What woman is going to come up with the concept of eternal pregnancy?

@bewitched3912 Месяц назад

After seeing my poor mama make 13 babies, I support anyone who doesn't choose to procreate. I hated being asked "how many children are you going to have?" as a very young child.. it was icky then (50+ years ago) and now

@kratino Месяц назад

@@alyssadgrenfell They see this as a motivational BONUS? LOL Definitely pulled from a man's fevered brain. . . or fevered penis.

@songbird1307 Месяц назад

@@bewitched3912I am from TX but currently live in UT to be closer to my husband's family. For various reasons we didn't end up having any children & I am perfectly fine w/ that. I was never 100% confident that I even wanted kids. I am very content w/ our furbabies. Since being in UT every time I meet someone new where "small talk" is required the very 1st thing that I get asked is "So...how many children do you have?". They don't even ask IF I have children. I know they are just trying to be friendly but I hate the assumption. Having children is not the only thing that defines an adult woman. I have an education & an accomplished career but in UT a husband plus children is the #1 achievement I guess. 🤷‍♀️

@bewitched3912 Месяц назад

@@songbird1307 You sound like an interesting person. I bet you have some talents and cool hobbies too!! After my exodus, I participated in every aspect of the arts; film production, fine arts, music, screenwriting, professional photography and 3 D mold making. I even published a book on art technique. If I tried any of this as a "mormon wife" it would never happen. I do have adult kids who supports my art and even creates art with me. I couldn't be happier!!

@JoeBLOWFHB Месяц назад

The Sons of Perdition's debut album "Outer Darkness" with their #1 hit "I Drink Coffee"... not coming to an LDS bookstore near you.

@gillianperry8965 Месяц назад

Totally unrelated but ALYSSA DUDE you’re just so cool. Like genuinely one of the only internet influencers that I have respect for. I saw your reel about your David Bowie Halloween costumes and I’m just so impressed at your ability to reject all the insane brainwashing and do whatever anachronistic thing you weren’t allowed to do while your very personality was being controlled. Slay!

@chairthrower Месяц назад

Feel like we should also mention Glen A. Larson, who created the original "Battlestar Galactica", which borrowed heavily from Mormon theology for its world building.

@acatnamedm4529 Месяц назад

And the Twilight author

@chairthrower Месяц назад

@@acatnamedm4529 She mentioned her in the graphic

@STho205 Месяц назад

He also borrowed from Scientology which was a big Hollywood fad in the late 70s. Scientology share a some of these concepts as well...as does Islam. Most of these are Arian heresies that split off from Orthodox Trinity Christianity after the 3rd century. Mormonism is a reworked Jehovas Witness theology, mixed with Masonry Mythology (which masons don't really believe or worship by...it is a retro ceremony like military colors), with the 1830s pondering of how did complex pyramid mounds get in America, and the revelation is very similar to what Mohammed said he had.

@oriolesfan61 Месяц назад

I don't think so 🤔

@STho205 Месяц назад

@@oriolesfan61 well you'd be wrong, but that's OK

@MadMadMandy Месяц назад

Joking to your mormon devout wife that you refuse to ressurrect her because of laundry sounds vile to me tbh 😬 Maybe I'm sensitive as f*ck, but if my partner told me they would bury me - a witch - in a catholic graveyard, I'd be deeply hurt.

@Cor6196 Месяц назад

I think that being buried in a Catholic graveyard guarantees you a slot in Catholic heaven. Now whether you consider this a plus or a minus is up to you. 😂

@cathuff5802 Месяц назад

Fellow witch watching this channel!!

@cescamarie Месяц назад

Make that 3 of us! Hello fellow witches! 💜✨

@kaylynnirvinesthetics Месяц назад

Right? I have questioned mormonism forever and was FORCED to attend until I was 18. One of the main things that I started questioning was all the sexism. It is disgusting and infuriates me. I would also be upset if I am buried in a mormon graveyard, as a witch myself, as well.

@mimimaitri1 Месяц назад

The amount of sexism and obsession with sex and birth in the afterlife are so extreme.

@user-qg8mo5qc5s Месяц назад

Ex-temple recommend holder here. “Born again Christian” Presbyterian flavor who feels sorrow for my LDS family and friends who must strive for perfection when the triune Godhead has already done what no mortal sinner could do - paid for our sins and opened the door for eternal life with God; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

@sparklingslimeASMR Месяц назад

This was SO helpful to have all of this information presented this way. I was a convert so I still struggle to understand what all I agreed to when I was baptized. This channel is helping me to deconstruct for good! I would love to see a video on the hierarchy of authorities in the church and some insight into how they’re chosen. That part is still very confusing to me and I’d love an expert analysis! Thank you Alyssa for sharing your knowledge🙂

@TheAlastairBrown 3 дня назад

You could probably have guessed, but the TLDR is that it's a bunch of rich, old, white men, choosing which rich, old white man is the leader for everyone else.

@markferguson3365 Месяц назад

The one thing that has stood out to me most about Mormons, is the need to know a secret hand shake. Sounds more like a fraternal lodge, not a religion.

@HighDesNurse Месяц назад

Religions have well known practices that are freely shared or preached. Cults have secrets.

@lucied7291 Месяц назад

Joseph was a high-ranking mason with a wild imagination, hence the mormon religion

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Месяц назад

@@HighDesNurse This is not the only definition of a cult.

@Skank_and_Gutterboy Месяц назад

They also purposely mispronounce certain words so that they can recognize each other on the sly.

@jerrimenard3092 Месяц назад

It's sort of both a lodge and a church. The big difference is Freemasons don't worship. Mormons do and so that makes the handshake part of the rituals. The OTO has something similar. Crowley was a huge fanboy of Joseph Smith.

@josephmoya5098 Месяц назад

It blows me that the Mormons believe in a second coming of Christ. He already came twice. He ascended, and then came back to Jackson County Missouri to proclaim the Gospel to all those white Native Americans. So we are now awaiting his third coming. Maybe he'll visit Australia next.

@Hijabi_Habibi Месяц назад

Jesus, please come to Indiana! 😂

@snowflakesue3986 Месяц назад

Nooooo! We don't want that liar down our way, nor his lazy father! Please, let America keep them!

@Skank_and_Gutterboy Месяц назад

It cracks me up when they talk about their relationship with Jesus and tell me that I need to get one, too. They don't think it's funny when I tell them, "If he wants a relationship, he knows where to find me."

@janmeyer3129 Месяц назад

Australia is not fertile ground

@sarahlongstaff5101 Месяц назад

Swedenborgians--my family's religion--also believe that the second coming already happened.... But only Emmanuel Swedenborg was told about it. You gotta read his impenetrable books to find the "truth."

@patriciastikeleather5689 Месяц назад

I read "No Man Knows My History, the life of Joseph Smith" So I started watching you as a follow up. I am really enjoying your explanations and the extra touch of humor.

@crisdekker8223 Месяц назад

The first thing you see after you pass is an interactive screen with a cursor that blinks "You are Here".

@aroundtheworldaly Месяц назад

Compared to “mainstream” Christianity, Judaism & Islam, the very last part of your video is WILD! To imply that God is just one of many potential Gods who used to be a person on some other planet, approaches Scientology levels of crazy 😆

@amaravazquez8591 Месяц назад

Joseph Smith would have for sure been a sci-fi/fantasy writer had he been born in the 20th century. Probably would have met up with L.Ron Hubbard lol.

@patriciag6030 Месяц назад

And that Jesus was just appointed Saviour of Earth implying that there are other Saviours appointed to other planets. I am a lapsed Catholic and I haven’t practised in many years but even I gasped at the blasphemy of it.

@sarahlongstaff5101 Месяц назад

I love it! No more “I am the one and only god.”

@jerrimenard3092 Месяц назад

I grew up Mormon and I still believe in many Gods and worlds. I still believe we will become Gods and also that our intelligences or energy is made of Chaos Matter. No, I am not a Christian. I am a traditional Thiestic Satanists. I didn't really have to convert. I just reframed what I learned growing up. Mormonism is Left Hand Path with a thin veneer of Jesus.

@EspiritoDeDafne Месяц назад

Evillious kind of lore

@marialauraverso Месяц назад

ok im so fucking intrigued?? WHAT IF YOU JUST WANTED TO REST IN PEACE????? what happened to resting in peace. imagine dying and still having to do so much work what seems never ending? cause like if you get a planet does this happen all over again?? IM SO SO CONFUSED????? after life pyramid scheme. I'm sorry heavenly father i think i just want to chill.

@mimimaitri1 Месяц назад

Seems such a let down to have the afterlife be so much like real life.

@SteveSmith-os5bs Месяц назад

They used to call it one eternal round.

@edwardboe7290 Месяц назад

You ask too many questions. You're going to hell. Wait, that doesn't matter, you're going to be proxy baptized.

@chickadeeacres3864 Месяц назад

The sheer feeling of bliss and no more of that negative chatter going on in your former brain , it will be very peaceful. Go check out a bunch of near death experiences and you’ll understand. Most NDE’s are quite upset and being sent back as it wasn’t their time, or this was a wake up call.

@paulpinecone2464 Месяц назад

Well then, you shouldn't have been so pious! Now lie back and think of Utah!

@KellyS_77 Месяц назад

This video was both far more hilarious and far more interesting than I expected.

@kaylynnirvinesthetics Месяц назад

I cannot tell you how many times my mom has cried, since I left the church, about how I can't come visit her in the Celestial Kingdom, for eternity, and how we can't be together because I am a sinner.

@mimimaitri1 Месяц назад

I’m so sorry.

@dandelion1239 Месяц назад

She won’t be there either since it’s a made-up place. You can be with Jesus for eternity if you’ll put your trust in Him ALONE for your salvation. He’s not Lucifer’s brother! We all need Him. We don’t need a religion! We need truth. Not a cult!!

@user-qg8mo5qc5s Месяц назад

All of us, according Saint Paul are born sinners. That is my experiencefor 74 years.

@alalalala57 Месяц назад

@@dandelion1239 Sounds like a made up guy lol.

@jboreal7982 27 дней назад

@@dandelion1239 Precisely.

@unfurlinglotusflower6939 Месяц назад

I have ancestors who converted to Mormonism in Nauvoo. They traveled to Utah with Brigham Young. For some reason, they left the church several years later, converted back to their original denomination, and moved just over the Colorado border, becoming the first white settlers in that area. We have no idea why they left but your channel has given me some fairly good ideas why they did. We have no record of polygamy either.

@barb0za0 Месяц назад

cool to know this family history! i wish i had records like this but my family is from places without crazy record keeping standards

@han9488 Месяц назад

that’s so interesting! would be so cool to get to have a conversation with them and figure it all out!😂

@unfurlinglotusflower6939 Месяц назад

@@barb0za0 a family member wrote a book about the history of the town they founded that I own. It helped my FIL when he did the genealogy of my family.

@unfurlinglotusflower6939 Месяц назад

@@han9488 it’s only one of my family’s mysteries. DNA testing and genealogy bring up answers for sure but it also brings more questions. I’d love to have answers to a lot more.

@juliahaney9001 Месяц назад

Your channel is interesting!

@kenburwood Месяц назад

On the surface the Mormon plan seems to give a reason for life. Claims to answer the age old questions: Why are we here? Why does life exist? Is there a purpose? "As we are, god once was, and as god is, we can become." But it doesn't offer any actual reason for that cycle or how any of it started, etc. It's simply the life cycle shifted to a cosmic spiritual scale, repeated ad infinitum, for the "answer." All the "why's" that it claims to answer actually remain unaswered, just deflected out level after level.

@AJX-2 Месяц назад

Mormonism seems to take pride in its lack of metaphysical rigor. Just look at the lyrics of the hymn "If You Could Hie To Kolob". The whole cascade of gods and matter has no beginning or end. It's turtles all the way down.

@jerrimenard3092 Месяц назад

What the church leaves out can very easily be filled in with outside sources. I recommend reading or watching videos on the Left Hand Path. Exaltation/Godhood is the goal and you get a lot more of the backstory. For more reading on the Left Hand Path I recommend S. Connelly "The Complete Book of Demonolatry" and " Mastering Witchcraft" by Paul Huson.

@mimimaitri1 Месяц назад

It’s an impossible question to answer, yet all religions try.

@Scarlett.loves.Loki2 Месяц назад

I had this same question, where did the very first God come from?

@humboldthammer Месяц назад

500,000 years ago, they came to Earth to teach Neanderthal Man herding and husbandry. And all went well for about 300,000 years (cro magnon man) until Lucifer -- sovereign of over 600 evolutionary worlds -- declared liberty from Rule by a non-existent grandfather god, and ordered the Planetary Princes, under his authority, to Do as They WILLED. Fast forward: Lucifer and Satan were detained in 30 AD, just after Pentecost, and were judged by the Ancients of Days, far from Earth in 1985. The devil and dragon (Revelation 12: 12-13) remain on Earth. Their judgement is set for 10/10/26. They intend to absolve themselves by proving mankind unfit for God's kingdom with a worldwide war: God vs God vs Not God vs no god, in the Name of GAUD. Grand Architect of Ur Destruction -- Abraham's Ur. It began in Israel on 10/7/23. "After all," the devil argues, "Jesus, Himself, tried to teach these beasts to love one another, 1,994 years ago -- almost two full days in Heaven. Surely, the Ancient of Days will judge Man at fault. Or Jesus. Not Me." 2 Peter 3: 8 Matthew 5: 44-48. The devil is delusional -- Daniel 7: 9-14 -- but over 93% of men and women are nearly deaf and blind spiritually. They "see" and "hear" nothing. As in the days of Noah.

@carolynholody9281 Месяц назад

Wow! I had no idea that the Mormon beliefs were so nutty! Thanks for sharing this video with us.

@tarajh 14 дней назад

It's B O N K E R S !!

@tracygittins6343 Месяц назад

Drawing the plan of salvation flowchart in countless pamphlets gave me pause, even as a believing missionary

@kikiciesielski5824 Месяц назад

What do you mean drawing it? They didn’t have it printed out for you.

@dandelion1239 Месяц назад

Praying you keep pausing & really start thinking for yourself. There’s one huge red flag (among many red flags) and it’s the belief that Jesus is lucifer’s brother. That one should let you know your organization is a lie. The Bible never says that. Your book of mormon was written by someone who was into the occult. Run. As. Fast. As. You. Can!!!

@bagofholding Месяц назад

Ah the veil of forgetfulness. I assume that works similar to books I was assigned to read in high school that I hated reading. As soon as that cover closed and I walked back into that classroom for the quiz *poof* gone.

@Skank_and_Gutterboy Месяц назад

No doubt. Good ole high school, being forced to read crap that does you zero amount of good in life.

@bewitched3912 Месяц назад

Alyssa, invite your readers to request their local library to obtain a copy to check out, there's many many libraries that need your literature!! Just a fun idea!!

@bewitched3912 Месяц назад

It costs nothing and you are helping those who are struggling with religion and helping Alyssa, financially!! 😊

@PCAKnight Месяц назад

Good advice!!!!

@Ladybird41 Месяц назад

Oh! I will do that!

@bewitched3912 Месяц назад

@@Ladybird41 thank you!! 😊

@MikeA15206 Месяц назад

Just don’t read it during Drag Queen Story time, they will indoctrinate your kids. Lol.

@revgurley Месяц назад

As an independent non-denominational theologian, this is all so fascinating to me. Not that I believe it, but Mormonism wasn't taught at all in my seminary. Judaism and Islam, yes. But not other Christian denominations. What I've learned has been from my own study and experiences. So thank you for showing us this theology. Learn something new every day, right?

@davidjanbaz7728 Месяц назад

Mormonism isn't a Christian denomination : you R ignorant if you think it is : r u even passing your classes???

@k9leadstheway531 17 дней назад

Morminism isn't a christian denomination? They completely reject the triune nature of the Godhead according to christians.

@nottiredofwinning3736 Месяц назад

From a Christian perspective these beliefs are not only pretty wild, but they're sinful and blasphemous. It's kind of crazy most Mormons and some non-Mormons think this is a form of Christianity, it's not, it's a perversion of it.

@HistoryGeek4U Месяц назад

Those beliefs are blasphemous; getting saved in Mormonism doesn't involve God's grace.

@SandyV-cg4xd 16 дней назад

I basically do not belong to any church or temple but I read many religious books inclooding Old and New Testament, good chunk of Quran , Book of Tanya (Hasidic) , etc., and the FIRST thing that popped in my mind when I started reading Mormon book were those words : “Beware of the false prophets " and was wondering how on earth this is "christian" book !?

@sansoucie1969 16 дней назад

@nottiredofwinning3736 From an Athiest perspective, I wouldn't characterize christianity as a perversion of reality; maybe just a bastardization. But you're right about the mormons. You guys are weird, but those people are bizarre.

@nottiredofwinning3736 16 дней назад

@@sansoucie1969 Have fun with your Godlessness, you're actually the "weird" minority. today, and especially all through history.

@justkiddin84 6 дней назад

Very much so. The Blood Atonement was the thing that stopped me from being polite and calling it a church. Joe Smith literally said that murder was just fine with Jesus. Nope. And the more I learn, the worse it gets.

@curiouskitten85 Месяц назад

All I could think was "yikes that would be a lot of responsibility" and then remembered how bad I was at sims... can you be at the upper level and just have like a really nice uninhabited rock?

@jedoilar2937 Месяц назад

Why do you think shit sucks so bad here? God‘s just a really awful Sims player lol

@igamarurbytes Месяц назад

'Can't I just oversee primordial ooze on my planet?'

@curiouskitten85 Месяц назад

@igamarurbytes , Mormons don't believe in evolution, so I'm not sure if that would be an option...

@carolhoughton9159 Месяц назад

My 1st marriage was that way. He started with polygamy while we were still married. Free from all of that now. I’ve been living with my boyfriend for 15 years. We choose each other every day, free from religion and free from having to register our situation with the state government.

@Trustbutverify2651 Месяц назад

There are downsides, though - esp if one of you gets very ill and is in the ICU. Then only married spouses can visit and many who are not married have not been able to be with their loved ones in their last moments. There are many other benefits to marriage. I hope you've thought of all the angles and protected yourselves if you choose not to be married.

@MossyMozart Месяц назад

@@Trustbutverify2651 - Inheritance is another sphere where marriage helps. Alan Rickman married his long time love shortly before his death for this reason, I believe.

@chrisc3571 Месяц назад

@@Trustbutverify2651when my sister nearly died, the hospital let all sorts of people visit - childhood acquaintances she hadn't seen in decades, old neighbors, people from church, relatives, my ex-husband. Anybody who wanted to see her. When my time comes, my sons and my friends will ensure that my boyfriend never has to leave my side. Granted, since he is a veteran and might be in a military hospital, they might exclude me for not being married to him - some locations are like that. But on the whole, I think this is no longer a valid concern for most couples.

@sherisellars5129 Месяц назад

I converted very briefly as a very young adult. I can honestly say I didn't meet one single Mormon married man who wasn't caught having affairs, quite a few with underaged girls. What did the church do about it? Not much.

@catspencer1378 28 дней назад

Wow! Just Wow!! As a young girl I went to church with my Mormon friend. So glad I wasn't baptized as a Mormon!!

@grahamthom8597 Месяц назад

Alyssa, your an incredibly intelligent person. I can't fathom how difficult it was for you living with Mormonism and finally breaking free.. Good on you. 👍

@SamSeth Месяц назад

I'm impressed that you're able to do these videos in a serious and respectful way, given the silliness of a lot of what you discuss. A lot of Joseph Smith's doctrine reads like something you'd dream up after one too many bong hits

@cypriennezed5640 Месяц назад

Awww yeah, it's planet time ❤❤❤ ETA: LOVE THE CERTIFICATE SO MUCH

@alyssadgrenfell Месяц назад

Get ready to be ETERNALLY PREGNANT! 🎉 Those spirit babies aren't going to make themselves!

@Porco_Utah Месяц назад

when I lived in Utah, most people I met they all say they believe in all of Mormon theology, but I always wonder how many of them really believe it without a doubt.

@jboreal7982 27 дней назад

I would gather an overwhelming majority of them do.

@velvetrooster5569 Месяц назад

I’ve seen a lot of Mormons say this that animated movie is completely false but all my research over the last 10 years tells me that it’s all 100% accurate to the teachings of the church. As a former Mormon that was converted when I was 10 years old and decided to leave the church after many years of being inactive at 27 years old I find it wild how many things taught by the church are denied when it makes the church look bad. I was arguing with a guy on instagram when a clip from that animated movie came across and it was about god punishing people with black skin. This guy in the comments said the church does not and has never taught that. He tried to back up his claims by saying that the church has had black members sense the mid 1800s and went on to say that the church started in the mid 1800s so that means a lot. That’s not true at all. I know for a fact that the Mormon church was exclusively white only for many years into the late 1900s. As someone who has done much more research and has much more knowledge about the church, what are your thoughts on the history of people of color in the church and the history of people of color being punished by god with dark skin?

@mayalynn Месяц назад

Party in the Telestial Kingdom, fellow aces and gays! I'll bring garlic bread and tiramisu!

@gamergirl24 Месяц назад

I'm ace, but I also have social phobia. Can I just grab a piece of garlic bread and hide in the corner?

@kikiciesielski5824 Месяц назад

I want to be one of those Barbies, where you push the button in her tummy and her hair grows long. I wonder if they have a special section in the telestial kingdom for that.

@mayalynn Месяц назад

@@gamergirl24 Heck yes! I bet there will be tons of non-mormon pets for the social anxiety corner. 💕

@Uf7f7d6cufihud6dgco 23 дня назад

Hell yeah, as an Ace person, I am down to be smoothified.

@slave2apup279 7 дней назад

We will get to see Jesus there too, he always hung around the sinners in life.

@Cor6196 Месяц назад

The whole scenario reminds me of L Ron Hubbard’s cosmology, like a long fable written in spurts of inspiration by the town drunk..

@calicoquilter4472 Месяц назад

I kept expecting Xenu to pop up somewhere.

@bewitched3912 Месяц назад

😂

@okiejammer2736 Месяц назад

LOL.. but not really. You're onto something here.

@jerrimenard3092 Месяц назад

The reason for the resemblance is that L Ron Hubbard use to be part of Crowley's OTO. Crowley was into Joseph Smith's teachings and even made him an OTO saint! Joseph got a lot of his material from older sources. If you can get ahold of D Michael Quinn 's book "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View" it will give more context to the similarities.

@kikiciesielski5824 Месяц назад

@@calicoquilter4472 makes a lot of sense because if I recall correctly, all of Xenu people got in spaceships and came here and got into a volcano or something like that so really we are all Mormon Xenu children or something like that

@mooglily Месяц назад

As someone with ADHD, this process sounds way too damn long. First I gotta die, then I have to wait in pre-hell to be baptized. Then once in paradise I still have to wait for God to come back *someday* & after that he’ll reign on earth for *1000 years* before I can finally get the heaven??? If this is what the afterlife is like, I don’t want it. I feel like they also must have a housing crisis because all the beings that have ever lived on planet earth for all of time are hanging out in the limbo planet right now.

@meaganmalone2511 25 дней назад

Obsessed with your energy in this vid. It's the most fun I've seen you in all of these videos, and you're a natural. Congrats on finding humor and levity in this wild life you were born into.

@amberinthemist7912 Месяц назад

The idea that I would be forced into polygamy against my will after I was dead made me not mormon. I said I would find a good mormon man who didn't want polygamy and be a good wife to him. I was told the nature of ALL men is that they would enjoy going from woman to woman and back again even if it crushes their wives hearts because those are just silly women feelings. I was also told that any good mormon man would be given more wives after death by god and I guess I'd be libotomized or something and not care about sharing ny husband, which honestly is an idea that makes me want to puke. Anyway I was 12 it was 1989. After months of arguing these points I said I'd rather live in hell as the devil's wife and left the church. I never thought it wasn't true or didn't plan to live mormon before I left. I enjoyed the time demands because I'm very social. I didn't mind the rules. But the idea of sharing a husband physically has always been like a knife in my heart but I was told those feelings were silly and there was no other choices in the after life. It was either be a good woman do everything right and then spend all of eternity getting cheated on or be non mormon. It so incredibly strange how much the mormon god and satan seem to share the same exact views on women's feelings and consent to sex.

@intignia Месяц назад

Not everything this lady says is accurate. Heavenly Father said one man and one woman. Adam only had one wife.

@amberinthemist7912 Месяц назад

@@intignia you are calling me a liar? About my own experiences?

@intignia Месяц назад

@@amberinthemist7912 No! I was saying that not everything Alyssa is telling us is accurate. I too would be devastated and heart-broken if when I got to the other side I found out that after all I sacrificed to live the Gospel truths and take care of my sweet hubby he was to have another wife besides me. I was trying to offer comfort because in the scriptures it clearly says one man one wife. Adam and Eve were the first to be married on Earth and they set the example of what a marriage is.

@margaretkinnaman8585 Месяц назад

@@intigniabut according to some theologies Adam had a wife BEFORE Eve. Her name was Lilith and she demanded equal rights (she wouldn't submit to Adam, the example being she wanted to be on top during sex) so God damned Lilith and cast her out and then created Eve for Adam

@amiesparkle00 28 дней назад

@@intigniaif it’s not true why do Alyssa and this commenter say the same thing?

@stevemorris270 Месяц назад

Mormon baptism after I die is the only hope I have.

@kerenhaiweha6257 Месяц назад

😂😂😂😂😂

@gwengold8154 Месяц назад

The only hope I have is the Lord Jesus Christ.

@hyacinth4368 Месяц назад

No, it isn't.

@samsampier7147 Месяц назад

Oof. I saw Mormon Heaven on South Park: baking, putting on plays, and doing arts and crafts. I grew up in Utah. I had enough of that stuff in public school. Hell looks more fun.

@dman7668 Месяц назад

You must be baptized to enter heaven. Unless a man be born again of water and spirit he cannot enter it.

@anon3746 Месяц назад

This is how an egomaniac would imagine Heaven. "I will be in the VIP section surrounded by my followers, everyone else will be my servant and then God will step aside for me."

@wickjezek5093 Месяц назад

I commented yesterday about the ad on your live from 4 weeks ago with panda. Today's delivery was so sleek! Awesome job.

@Iwanttoobelieve Месяц назад

My grandchildren are being raised LDS. They don't talk about any specifics. Thank you very much for this very interesting information.

@gwengold8154 Месяц назад

Your grandchildren are very blessed.

@aubreyw659 Месяц назад

Im quite literally not even joking, just yesterday a friend and i were discussing mormon heaven and i shared one of your videos. And then you go and post this! Haha the coincidence is very good. Keep up spreading awareness of what mormons actually believe

@alyssadgrenfell Месяц назад

The spirit prompted me to make this because God knew you needed this video 😌 It's so amazing to see how the Lord moves in our lives. 🙏

@theboathaaa7654 Месяц назад

@@alyssadgrenfellheavenly Father outchea making money moves through you, his vessel on earth 🌍 lol

@aubreyw659 Месяц назад

@@alyssadgrenfell hahahaha yeah. Not a Mormon, more of a regular Christian but I love all your work

@carolyearsley 17 дней назад

You are one of the best ExMo pod casters. All of you younger ones have really energized the movement. Thanks for all of your hard work putting the information together.

@WatchingwaitingG2D 7 дней назад

You really are one clueless puppet.

@davidzundel2059 Месяц назад

Something I got taught different was that If you left the church, you went to outer darkness. Although that was in seminary and I was taught more extreme teachings there.

@ericseamons9982 Месяц назад

That is not accurate to Mormon doctrine. You can only go to outer darkness if you have a perfect knowledge of God, meaning you have seen and spoken with him, then reject him. Only a select few would qualify. You would most likely go to the terrestrial Kingdom according to Mormon doctrine.

@northfrost4018 Месяц назад

My father's side of the family was a part of the Mormon church from the wagon trains to my grandmother's youth, I'm glad the family got out before I was in the picture.

@positivevibes1760 Месяц назад

It does sound like a board game lol. As a 9 year old before my baptism ( that I didn't want) I was scared of the plan of salvation and the atonement didn't really sound like a great gift that I would be grateful for. Particularly if you don't believe in the doctrine of the mormon church ( not Jesus) you are damned for falling away from the church. That I really didn't want to be apart of as a kid. As an ex mormon I read the New Testament without mormon doctrine and I believe in Christ more and when You read the New Testament without Mormon doctrine... Paul mentions it's ok to be single, don't work to boast, the Apostles were poor and homeless then it dawned on me.... Mormon faith is working for power not because they are kind and gentle in Christ, they are working towards godhood. I remember, giving my Bishop a call in 2019 for one final attempt to go back to church, he took me to lunch and talked nothing but how blessed he was and that he got a good job, family and kids, it wasn't about my problems and that I was struggling with. It felt boastful and I finally got my answer to never go back.

@parker_chess Месяц назад

I got the same with my Bishop a few weeks ago. I'm leaving the Church for Eastern Orthodoxy and began taking classes. I'd encourage you to not give up on Christianity and look at apostolic Christianity. 😊

@positivevibes1760 Месяц назад

@@parker_chess thanks for the encouragement. I will check it out. When I started reading the Bible, it truly amazed me how wrong the Mormon doctrine is. We were taught the verses but not the context. I recently learnt how we got Manuscripts and Papyrus that have been unchanged as early as late 1st to 2nd century. I Read the Didache etc and I was amazed as a returned missionary, how little I knew. I recently visited the Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Alexandrinus in London. 🤯 It's not as corrupted as we are told.

@oliviawolcott8351 Месяц назад

interesting how the more you look at it, the more its a lot like satans plan.

@parker_chess Месяц назад

@@positivevibes1760 for sure! I was reading letters from St. Ignatius he's an early Christian Patriarch who wrote letters at the turn of the 2 century and studied under the apostle John in Antioch. His theology and teachings perfectly match the church today. He talks about Christ being fully human and fully divine, the bread and wine being the true body and blood of Christ during the Eucharist, and also Church structure with Bishops, Priests, and Deacons. Christ promised us the "Gates of Hell would not prevail against his church". Smith came 1800 years later and innovated ye didn't restore anything. He used polygamy as an excuse to take teenage girls and other mens wives as his own. You should read about Fanny Alger his first plural wife. She was literally living with him and Emma as his adopted daughter and one day Emma comes home and catches them doing the nasty in the barn. 😔 Not a prophet!

@QuentinPlant Месяц назад

@@positivevibes1760 In Catholicism, the Council of Toulouse 1219: "We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old and New Testaments" (Psalter + Breviary were permitted) and till Martin Luther's time translating the bible from Latin into other languages was a big no-no (sometimes combined with "only the clergy should know Latin) . Like "Where will we end up if the people read the Bible themselves and don't believe exactly what and how we tell them to?"

@lucasbergey Месяц назад

Your humor is so great.

@lauraiglesias2660 22 дня назад

I ABSOLUTELY love your sense of humor 😂😂❤

@judahmoar2533 Месяц назад

It seems to me that the baptisms for the dead are inconsistent with the belief that life on earth is a test of our free will, because the dead don't get to choose to be baptized

@MossyMozart Месяц назад

@judahmoar2533 - In the "spiritual waiting room" they choose whether or not to accept the proxy baptism. Supposedly. As if any of this is real. And if there really was a "spiritual waiting room". Say, I wonder if they could use a good interior designer....?

@margaretkinnaman8585 Месяц назад

@@MossyMozart Probably but only if they aren't gay...🤣🤣🤣

@adamprovencher2069 3 дня назад

@@margaretkinnaman8585would you trust hiring an interior designer who wasn’t gay?

@robyn00xx Месяц назад

Religion has been my special interest for the last 5 years, love your channel and being able to learn more about mormonism (mom grew up hardcore catholic but left the church around 18 and my dad wasn’t raised religious)

@user-ts8sn5ts2z Месяц назад

I love you Alyssa. Yes I am a Christian. I love critical thinkers who ASK questions and embrace ( fearlessly) their truth

@ahwell9984 Месяц назад

I'm with you. I think God is thrilled when women THINK, call things what they ARE, find COURAGE, and become FREE!!❤

@humboldthammer Месяц назад

In the Bible, we witness the history -- albeit revised, perhaps even fabricated, like all histories -- of a small, closed group of people, who make mistake after mistake after mistake, until finally, their promised messiah arrives, teaches them that all men are brothers and to love one another, and we (they?) crucify Him. And then, beginning with a few thousand followers, 1,994 years later, they (we?) number well over 1 billion -- but there are just 20 million Jews. Truly, their house was left desolate.

@wildstingray4463 Месяц назад

every week i look forward to your videos alyssa!! you're informative and very well spoken and i like to hear your pov. thanks for your hard work on these videos!

@JosephSaltal Месяц назад

I saw part of your old Mission video talking about safety for Sister Missionaries.

@alyssadgrenfell Месяц назад

Yeah, it's confusing because they say "the lord protects you" AND "always carry pepper spray" 😭

@oliviawolcott8351 Месяц назад

@@alyssadgrenfell I guess god created the pepper spray to protect you.,,

@madeleinebright2590 Месяц назад

This stuff is wild. A part of me yearns for an answer to the question, "What happens after we die?" But then i learn about this insanity and it puts me off religion so much.

@McQuizzical Месяц назад

Unfortunately mankind takes God's message and twists it into their own shape, it's the whole idolitary problem, which misses the point that we're called to walk in a relationship with Him and learn to respect others. The greatest commandment 34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ 37 Jesus replied: ‘“Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.”[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: “Love your neighbour as yourself.”[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.’ Matthew 22:34-40 NIV

@theboathaaa7654 Месяц назад

Yearning for an answer is natural, but you should always be skeptical when someone claims to have one. This is even more true when they claim you should give 10% of your income to my organization, or else be eternally damned in their version of the afterlife. Seems most likely to me that death will be exactly like it was before I was born, and that's fine with me

@GuyRegular Месяц назад

What happens after we die?, you want to live in reality. Our brain dies. We don't exist anymore in our body begins to decompose. We're either buried in the ground and turn into a dried out pile of bones and skin or cremated and what's left of our Bodies are turned into ashes in a blender-like device and put into an urn and hand it to our relatives and that's all there is folks.

@coolm3th Месяц назад

I love your videos so much bc they are so informative and interesting, but this one was both of those qualities and also really funny. Thank you for the sprinkle of humor!!

@TylerNickAllen.Design Месяц назад

I am obsessed with your content!

@firstnamelastname7244 Месяц назад

Despite Mormonism's problems, I do at least like the idea of the three kingdoms. It's nice to see a religion that doesn't believe that all non-members are automatically dammed.

@amberinthemist7912 Месяц назад

Lower mormon heaven is the same as hell and there's outer darkness. Don't be fooled.

@anthonydelfino6171 Месяц назад

it's all a matter of perspective. while there's no outright "hell" in Mormonism, and they do teach that even the lowest kingdom is an existence which far surpasses the quality of life on earth, they to also teach that if you're not in the celestial kingdom, you'll be wracked with guilt for the rest of eternity for blowing it on earth and never being able to be with god again. so they just believe in a more psyschologial torture than a physical one

@MossyMozart Месяц назад

@firstnamelastname7244 - I am a very happy Former Mormon. However, in Buddhism, one has an infinite number of chances to "get it right". Much more humane, as religions go. Their main concern is the alleviation of human suffering, not the imposition of it if you've been "wicked".

@dandelion1239 Месяц назад

But just because someone believes something doesn’t make it true. We can’t pick & choose which one is true to fit what we might want. There’s only one truth & that’s God’s word. It’s been proven right every time. No religion is right. It’s about having a relationship with Jesus…fully trusting & believing in Him alone for salvation. Religions just mess things up & make up their own rules.

@jboreal7982 27 дней назад

Perhaps Alyssa can confirm this but I’ve heard Mormon hell/outer darkness is only reserved for apostate Mormons. I’ve never been Mormon and I’m a nice person, so I’ll just be at the Terrestrial level. No getting my freak on for eternity with my Celestial harem for me I guess…

@dustinDraig Месяц назад

Imma just going to live my life, save the tithe money for myself, wear comfortable underwear and then wait in Spirit prison until someone else gets baptised for me. Win-win!

@alyssadgrenfell Месяц назад

This is the Mormon afterlife cheat code.

@lisboay8086 Месяц назад

your videos are so informative and engaging!

@mariafromoverthepond Месяц назад

This has got me thinking of that Monty Python movie: The Meaning of Life and the song “Every Sperm is Sacred”. It definitely slaps for non-practicing catholics 😂

@gracesweet9302 Месяц назад

The certificate is AMAZING 😂 Thank you so much for this explanation!

@sinisterhug1394 Месяц назад

“Shout out to my boy, Joseph Smith!” 🤣🤣🤣 I can’t!!! When I discovered that old cartoon, I didn’t think much of it as a TBM, but now, it’s SOOOO WILD! I look forward to being TK smoothied, at least I’ll have a good Frappuccino with me

@Green4CloveR Месяц назад

I already live like a god now! No kids, free time, eat and drink whatever and whenever I want. I can also harness the power of electricity! Also being loved and kind to others and have that in return is the celestial kingdom that can be achieved.

@AtlanticGiantPumpkin Месяц назад

I got LIED TO!! My Mormon friend told me that in the telestial and terrestrial realms we’ll learn what we missed and then slowly ascend up to the celestial realm

@SENSEF Месяц назад

Well, she misunderstood. But you'll be okay anyway. 😉

@codename495 Месяц назад

Yeah, I got told that by missionaries and in seminary.

@oliviawolcott8351 Месяц назад

oh people lie all the time about the theology.

@MossyMozart Месяц назад

@@codename495 - During missionary lessons, we were _told_ that it is fine to "lie for the lord". Hissed me off big time.

@ayellowpapercrown6750 Месяц назад

I was watching one of your videos just now and actually thought "wait, i need a more detailed explanation of mormon afterlife because what?" and there you are haha! I’m in tune with heavenly father’s plans apparently.

@weird-history-and-odd-news Месяц назад

I love your channel, Alyssa..... it's just mind-boggling how crushingly convoluted Mormonism is... thank you for your brilliant series, shining a bright light onto this nonsensical belief system.

@marlaynay Месяц назад

Hahahahaha the certificate, love it! As always, thanks for the video + explanations and hi from Austria 😊

@Amyebredfeldt Месяц назад

This explains so much about Brandon Sanderson’s books, thank you! I’ll be reading them differently now…

@Seafairy93 Месяц назад

this helps me understand the Daybell-Vallow trial, why they got remarried so quickly. Thank you for this insighy

@snowflakesue3986 Месяц назад

They had the raging 'loin fire'

@PrincessDiana1220 Месяц назад

@@snowflakesue3986lol

@Gracula Месяц назад

Telestial kingdom gang

@alyssadgrenfell Месяц назад

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@beepwrld Месяц назад

I have been loving and learning so much from all your videos, but I especially loved seeing more of your sense of humor in this one!! This was so informative & also so funny thank u

@gwengold8154 Месяц назад

Why do you love mockery?

@llw1361 28 дней назад

Thank you for this clearer explanation!

@allenmatlick9041 Месяц назад

The Space Odyssey movies: 2001 & 2010, certainly have Mormon elements. Dave, the sole surviving astronaut of 2001 ends up living in some sort of holding area until he dies of old age. He is then is transformed into some sort of super being. In 2010 he becomes the god-equivalent of Europa, one of the moons of Jupiter. Jupiter changes into a sort of mini-star to illuminate Europa. Everything is wonderful.

@auctionmusic Месяц назад

never use those "fix your bills" companies. They charge way too much, and you payback way too much. Deal with your creditors directly, call them, offer to settle, they will settle everytime, and for much better terms.

@QuentinPlant Месяц назад

Though there are non-profit organisations that help with debt counseling that are helpful. But yes, companies that want their share of the ‘saved’ money should be avoided

@auctionmusic Месяц назад

@@QuentinPlant I didn't find non profit helpful at all. All they said to me was that I was "too far gone" meaning it was time for bankrupty. I was back working again so only could go chapter 13 which is terrible don't do that. Instead called the collectors one or two at a tme, offered to settle, we agreed on the amount and payment, and that is how it went. One debt collector told me in his 25 plus years a debtor had never called him before. You are not dealing with bubonic plague, you will not be put in front of a firing sqaud, its just debt, face up to it, get it negotiated and paid off, and don't be so stupid in the future. If you are going to lose your house then lose it, start over, much better than trying to hang on. Get out of debt and stay out.

@highdesertsunbeam Месяц назад

Thank you for your book, great work!

@ZTanMURReneRs Месяц назад

As an atheist, baptism of the dead is one of those things I have the least issue with. If you really believe that I totally get the logic of trying to save everyone in history. Much better than saying they're all doomed forever and nothing to do about it.

@codename495 Месяц назад

Yeah….but there’s also the blatant disregard for the actual beliefs of the person who is dead.

@QuentinPlant Месяц назад

@@codename495 I see both views - but it's like this "I pray for you" from other people and my "erm... nope, please don't"

@ZTanMURReneRs Месяц назад

@@codename495 Ok sure but the weird thing to me is that if I am "respecting someone's beliefs" this way I am also not really taking them seriously. Like if there actually is a real afterlife, unless in some convoluted way "all religions are real", if there is a real afterlife surely that actual afterlife is what matters most to someone who is dead. If Mormon afterlife is truly real and someone's soul is stuck there like is me respecting what they believed throughout life really going to trump the actual reality of the afterlife they're in? Like I totally get the point of respecting people's belief but I feel like there you're also on some level not really taking them seriously. Like if you truly, fully, believe, say, that you have to be a certain kind of christian to go to a good afterlife and otherwise you will be tortured forever in hell, how could you, if a friend that you loved had another religion and you truly believed that meant they would go to hell, how could you not try everything to get them "on the right path"? Like what is respecting their beliefs worth if you truly know they're going to be in hell? Like surely if after you both die you are in heaven and they in hell and you could contact each other, they would tell you that they want you to save them if you could, right? I think a lot of people don't truly take others seriously in their beliefs. Otherwise I think a lot of concerns obviously trump being respectful to their beliefs.

@ZTanMURReneRs Месяц назад

@@codename495 put another way; what truly is the disrespect here? That you don't believe they're going to go to the afterlife they believe in? Surely that's a given. Otherwise you don't really believe in your religion. That is of course if your beliefs are mutually exclusive, but in a lot of cases they indeed are.