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Enemy Dynamics in The Battle Cats 

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A video on the archetypes, roles, and interactions between enemies in silly cat game. Nothing special, but just a topic I thought could be fun to talk about.
Next video is gonna be a ranking one, and boy, it's been a while since I've made one of those.
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Black Souls 2 OST: Opening Theme
Black Souls 2 OST: Rabbit Hole
Black Souls 2 OST: Garden of Hearts
Black Souls 2 OST: Smouldering Forest
Black Souls 2 OST: Pond of Bloody Tears
Black Souls 2 OST: Oyster's Dead Sea
Black Souls 2 OST: Sea Turtle Restaurant

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25 апр 2024

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@Enter_a_name69
@Enter_a_name69 Месяц назад
Hey looks its the cat game dude who suspiciously sounds like souptasta
@abdul-warisalao
@abdul-warisalao Месяц назад
TRUE
@Haha_yes_im_real
@Haha_yes_im_real Месяц назад
Never realized that but yeah
@Chaos_knight553
@Chaos_knight553 Месяц назад
Wait, they have the same voice, they talk the same way in their videos, they have similar videos(one of souptasta’s last video is a video essay about the worst stage in BC), canned juice started uploading a lot of BC videos 3 months after souptasta’s ITF 1 slot only vid(his last one) and their channel’s names are related to food. I think you’re onto something
@what_the_actual_fuck
@what_the_actual_fuck Месяц назад
HES ONTO SOMETHING GET THIS TO THE TOP COMMENT
@ramaicatseye
@ramaicatseye Месяц назад
Hmm...
@Sad_hampter_
@Sad_hampter_ Месяц назад
he finally found his youtube password
@Gatorboy5678
@Gatorboy5678 Месяц назад
It’s only been a month chill.
@Sad_hampter_
@Sad_hampter_ Месяц назад
@@Gatorboy5678 it was not a roast, just a joke. Sorry if it came out mean
@seal7855
@seal7855 Месяц назад
@@Sad_hampter_ I didn't see it as a roast. I do find it a bit weird though because this joke only works if the youtuber has an unusually long gap between videos and a month is normal for this channel.
@Sad_hampter_
@Sad_hampter_ Месяц назад
@@seal7855thats true
@eg_Fishlord
@eg_Fishlord Месяц назад
bot comment
@LucasIVYT
@LucasIVYT Месяц назад
Amazing video! I think my personal favorite enemy is actually Mini Angel Cyclone, it's also an extremely powerful enemy that actually has a negative dynamic with tankier melee enemies (as you can stack wave/surges on them) but can still pose a threat with a lot of basic mid-range enemies. One topic that I'd also love to touch on are some enemies that are just so badly balanced that it's hard to make good dynamics for them. Two that comes to mind are Winged Pigge and St Dober. You did mention St Dober and how he can destroy backliners, but he also destroys frontliners the same. This makes him such a difficult enemy to counter as the only reliable way to stall him is using Ramen, which can easily melt if there's any sort of non-angel enemies in the stage with him. Winged Pigge suffers a somewhat similar problem, where the only reliable way to stall him is using Ramen. Any combination of enemies that aren't angels instantly makes W.Pigge an insanely powerful threat. These are I think why their debut stages (Bare Fangs at the Throne & Heaven's Oasis) are the hardest stages they're ever in. I think PONOS realized how terribly hard it is to make stages with them, and so any other stages they're in now either have them alone with barely any enemy supports or just other angels so Ramen can carry everything. It's either too hard or too easy, and finding that actually good dynamic is really difficult with these enemies.
@user-nl1sc7lf1o
@user-nl1sc7lf1o Месяц назад
I love how complicated cat game has become 😂
@adri3939
@adri3939 Месяц назад
I honestly agree with these. Both Winged Pigge and St. Dober are insanely overtuned and disable way too many strategies to make a fulfilling stage with either of them in it. They pretty much suffer from oppressive boss syndrome, where you literally only have one strategy to beat them whenever you fight them, or else they become frustratingly difficult to deal with. With Winged Pigge, you're forced to spam the hell out of Ramens, spam everything that outranges her omni, and pray. You can't use rushers against her, you can't use tankers against her, you can't use (most) cc against her, you can only use midrangers and backliners, paired with Ramen. With St. Dober, his stats are far too high to allow any strategy other than surge immune spam or permafreezing him. Like with Winged Pigge, you can't use rushers against him, you can't use tankers against him, you can't use midrangers against him, you can't use backliners against him, you can only use surge immune and pray, which really limits the variety in facing him, because your pool of non uber units so limited unless you avoid taking him head on entirely and use Li'l Dark or Juliet to permafreeze him. It makes both of these enemies so annoying to fight for me (and many others) because you can't express your playstyle. My playstyle is very centric around rushers, so when I encounter enemies like these, I groan and get annoyed, because I don't want to do the same song and dance of Ramen & Cyborg. I want to play the game how I want to play it. I want to make my own strategies, not be shackled or handcuffed into what the specific enemy demands. Adding any other threatening enemy just worsens this problem, as the only way to beat them becomes much more difficult. Like in Bare Fangs at the Throne, Othom curses your CC, so you can't use them to take care of St. Dober. PONOS probably realized this combination was annoying as hell and never did anything like it again. Most other St. Dober stages, he's supported minimally, or even just outright left alone like in Hall of the Four Kings. Or in Kosamin Ruins, Winged Pigge is literally only supported by Gabriels, since anything else as simple as a Tackey would piss everyone who plays the stage off, with Tackey murdering your Ramens & Cyborgs. This isn't a problem exclusive to those two either obvious, with many more oppressive enemies existing like Pickle, Socrates, Omens, etc. They're all exclusive to only one or two stages, and it's definitely for the best.
@nectarinna
@nectarinna Месяц назад
I feel like Doremi also fits in that group of poorly balanced enemies, but with the exact opposite scenario Where the stage it appears in is the WORST it's in, due to having no actual support If you've tried to make a custom stage with Doremi you'd know it's MISERABLE without just having it die to a single Bahamut chain
@Flont40
@Flont40 Месяц назад
St Dober is just way too linear. The overtuned level 3 surge and stages St Dober usually appears in forces you to either ramen spam to take it on, or isolate it and burst it down freezing it with Juilet cat to not allow St Dober to surge your units. It's just the same gameplay just with different supporting enemies that you isolate from St Dober.
@PotentialDevGcimOgism.
@PotentialDevGcimOgism. Месяц назад
Winged pigge is hated because of its decent dps but luckily li'l dark cat can make the process of fighting it easier as long as it's only 100% or 150% and alone
@UltimacraftedArmy
@UltimacraftedArmy Месяц назад
Aaah, nothing like a new Canned Juice video
@appalacha7278
@appalacha7278 Месяц назад
Meth
@halfcompetent4882
@halfcompetent4882 Месяц назад
When you have nothing to watch but then see a Canned Juice video:
@Pudding404
@Pudding404 Месяц назад
There's something to be said about most zombie enemies (the ones that burrow). Aside from Zamelle and event enemies like Z-onel, they're completely up in your face frontliner threats, or have a high enough range that they qualify as a midranger, but not in the same way as literally every metal. The balancing of the trait is that they rely on the stage layout like the length between both bases, and the careful cashflow throughout the stage since they burrow and *will* take over portions of the field like in Defaced tombstone. I think Miss Haka is a genius enemy, monsterous hp but high knockback, it makes her a looming threat that has unlimited burrows until she decimates your base. But when she does pop up, she has a slight animation like rock cat where she stalls and puts holes in your defense and gives her teammates an opportunity to reach your midrangers and catch up to her.
@thanksfeanor9988
@thanksfeanor9988 Месяц назад
One of very few battle cats channels to get my seal of approval for quality analysis, well thought out and not just repeating basic/common takes or losing accuracy to simplification or entertainment value. You have good ideas and good explanations with qualities that I'd compare to great talents like pannenkoek or summoningsalt, albeit less developed and honed at this stage. I look forward to what you produce in future.
@peachdevils3893
@peachdevils3893 Месяц назад
I specifically remember them pairing bun bun and Kory variants together notably in labyrinth of hades, docking massacre, boiling spring and some other stages
@Aura_BCP
@Aura_BCP Месяц назад
There is one very interesting enemy interaction It revolves around Deonil and literally anything LoL
@PotentialDevGcimOgism.
@PotentialDevGcimOgism. Месяц назад
1% buffed One Horn: i am going to end this man's whole career
@filippvarelis1999
@filippvarelis1999 Месяц назад
Trash cat profile picture appreciation
@quesm203
@quesm203 Месяц назад
Maybe the real enemies were the ones we double bounty can canned along the way...
@Sleepdeprivedkitty
@Sleepdeprivedkitty Месяц назад
Zapy+Cadaver Bear is one of the most painful things I have ever dealt with. The combination of two enemies that attack relatively quickly, with one of them dealing insane damage and basically mandating cheap, spammable meatshields, and a backliner that can easily infiltrate your defense with its burrow, kill the meatshields you need for Zapy, and overall being a complete nuisance is awful to deal with.
@umcaraaleatorioeggs3339
@umcaraaleatorioeggs3339 Месяц назад
I like the constrast between the tidy, informative style of your videos and your channel's absolutely chaos of a banner
@FrosTeeBee
@FrosTeeBee Месяц назад
So glad you’re back 🥹
@2krab4u
@2krab4u Месяц назад
ur actually goated bro, you make the best battle cats youtube videos
@midtisel4222
@midtisel4222 Месяц назад
yknow... This would have been extremely useful back when i got into stage design and playtesting, but now that ive been playtesting for more than 6 months this video is useful for explaining this kind of difficult concept to newer BCU users. This video explains pretty much everything there is about enemy dynamics (except the specifics) in a simple way.
@IIIGietasIII
@IIIGietasIII Месяц назад
YOOO I WAITED FOR YOUR VIDEO WITH A NOTIFY LETS GOOO!
@skeletonjanitor
@skeletonjanitor Месяц назад
I was jumpscared by the black souls music
@Tankozilla12
@Tankozilla12 Месяц назад
every 1-2 months a cool video of Canned Juice appears in my notifaction
@friedcheese3421
@friedcheese3421 Месяц назад
GOATED analysis of the game!
@sh_aspking
@sh_aspking Месяц назад
finally u uploaded, now i can subscribe
@kruncher_
@kruncher_ Месяц назад
Absolutely fascinating
@hyppoh1731
@hyppoh1731 Месяц назад
No gacha games have the sheer maliciousness of battle cats enemy combinations
@rasvossthefunne
@rasvossthefunne Месяц назад
Hi juice of the canned variety, good video!
@mistermiahboy4695
@mistermiahboy4695 Месяц назад
I'm going to Alice
@vashx.o2447
@vashx.o2447 Месяц назад
I’m going to Alice
@Trimpy_boi09
@Trimpy_boi09 Месяц назад
I'm going to Alice
@tintedcottonbuds
@tintedcottonbuds Месяц назад
you scared me with the relic squire rel at the start
@saifmohamed2967
@saifmohamed2967 Месяц назад
Interesting how this came out only a few hours before markiquad made his 1 year anniversary event
@Terrified_Dartanyan
@Terrified_Dartanyan Месяц назад
The Tackey family (including Loris too because hes just relic tackey) has to be my favorite despite it being an absolute pain in the ass to play against, it forces players to step out of the comfortable and reliable [Strong backline Uber/Legend] and makes them think of a different way to tackle the stage, sometimes you rush like with Thorny dialogue, where otherwise you can't use a good backliner to kill the Alpackies or you just... Outrange the LD with Cyberpunk (looking at you Horrorpotamus) Either way, not very fun enemy to play against, but really good ideas to force change into a player's lineup
@Hydromint
@Hydromint Месяц назад
Quality content
@zemufinman1639
@zemufinman1639 18 дней назад
my favorite instance of an enemy is the insane doge on the econd stage of ninja cat awakens
@thellamadj283
@thellamadj283 Месяц назад
I'm all into Battle Cats enemies (guide and relevant event ones only). Indeed so focused that I tend to panik when a mixed stage with hard pushers comes into the scene. I find enemy designs incredibly satisfying (dont ask me why, idk) and love everything about them, including them being annoying. That's why I have a top 5 most annoying enemies of each trait, excluding story bosses, advents, cyclones (not Li'ls), baron gauntlet bosses, event and misc (I dont have a baron/behemoth/sage ranking, they appear in normal trait lists)
@SilumanTomcatReborn
@SilumanTomcatReborn Месяц назад
The enemy synergy is probably the primary reason why PONOS doesn't upgrade Advent Boss on Floor 41++ to their Merciless counterpart. The upgraded boss has completely different behavior. If they just swap the boss without care, it will create some stupid enemy combination. Like what are you going to do against Pappu and King WanWan combo?
@JacobChouinard-fn1cl
@JacobChouinard-fn1cl Месяц назад
And what would you do against 3 doremi's and relic b
@Meme_guy_17809
@Meme_guy_17809 Месяц назад
I love souptasta and canned juice
@GoofyGoober-uf4pg
@GoofyGoober-uf4pg Месяц назад
It’s a hard battle to fight but it is worth it in the end
@flaps_acd
@flaps_acd Месяц назад
They sound so similar, almost like the same person
@qlex26
@qlex26 Месяц назад
loved the vid
@marwanamad4210
@marwanamad4210 Месяц назад
Whenever you post you make me remember how complicated this game is and I just don’t realize how deeply I think about this game until it’s pointed out as always 10/10 content
@user-ij9ur3pb7i
@user-ij9ur3pb7i Месяц назад
How did you not talk about birth of true man when talking about enemy interactions and synergies
@fishe148
@fishe148 Месяц назад
Blacksouls music jumpscare
@skeletonjanitor
@skeletonjanitor Месяц назад
I got whiplash
@yeamelol
@yeamelol Месяц назад
YES FINALLY
@Ads_and_Info
@Ads_and_Info Месяц назад
Bro henry and relic b would be a great revenge stage combo
@PotentialDevGcimOgism.
@PotentialDevGcimOgism. Месяц назад
Literally just spawn courier cat and soap cat and the stage does by itself
@Ads_and_Info
@Ads_and_Info Месяц назад
@PotentialDevGcimOgism. I meant like the main enemys Henry freezes the cats and relic b curses them
@Ads_and_Info
@Ads_and_Info Месяц назад
@PotentialDevGcimOgism. I meant like the main enemys Henry freezes the cats and relic b curses them
@thellamadj283
@thellamadj283 Месяц назад
I mean give the duo some buffed Bore Jrs. and some Gabriels too sure
@PotentialDevGcimOgism.
@PotentialDevGcimOgism. Месяц назад
I also love chickful a, he's so cute...
@Lukkundant
@Lukkundant 20 дней назад
Holy.. black souls bgm jumpscare
@petscopstan
@petscopstan Месяц назад
BABE WAKE UP, NEW CANNED JUICE VIDEO
@ThatBoraInBCMedia
@ThatBoraInBCMedia Месяц назад
jagandeez nuts - canned juice in r/bc a couple days ago
@Enter_a_name69
@Enter_a_name69 Месяц назад
Real
@fuggycolor
@fuggycolor Месяц назад
“this makes the battle cats a game with constantly innovative and fresh gameplay” me when i lie (hi canned)
@moomooguy
@moomooguy Месяц назад
Also the alien kangaroos in the kappy jr stage
@Parrity358
@Parrity358 Месяц назад
new canned videoooo pog
@daniel19465
@daniel19465 Месяц назад
watch ponos drop cosmos 3 outbreak like 2 updates in the future from this video just to prove his numbers wrong
@danmanproking2179
@danmanproking2179 Месяц назад
Anyone going to talk about how smooth the editing is at 2:05 ? That switching between each pair of enemies is so satisfying to watch
@boxcart4533
@boxcart4533 Месяц назад
Best part of battle cats
@janselclydesureta9305
@janselclydesureta9305 26 дней назад
Can you make a video how to earn cat food easilywith out clearing stages
@muhmaya
@muhmaya Месяц назад
babe wake up new canned juice video just dropped
@georgeelliott6877
@georgeelliott6877 4 часа назад
It’s hoot hoot from Pokèmon!
@cod33rorr_real
@cod33rorr_real Месяц назад
finaly
@adri3939
@adri3939 Месяц назад
i think socrates could be combined well with almost every enemy to change his dynamic and create fun and interesting stages, he's just that versatile! 🐇
@Flont40
@Flont40 Месяц назад
Ehh not really. Sorcates is just way too hard of a pusher that only has one non uber strategy found (aka Octo and Cyberpunk). He definitely fits more as a standalone boss with minimal support, but pair him with any other high pusher and he becomes overtuned.
@thellamadj283
@thellamadj283 Месяц назад
@@Flont40 Not even talking about mixing him with a somewhat competent pusher that is another different trait
@adri3939
@adri3939 Месяц назад
@@Flont40 yes that is the joke
@DefinetlyHres
@DefinetlyHres Месяц назад
What type of enemy would you classify filibuster as?
@R-PTCbruh.io777
@R-PTCbruh.io777 Месяц назад
Probably a nuker and a sniper
@ITInikitronITI
@ITInikitronITI Месяц назад
Timer.
@DefinetlyHres
@DefinetlyHres Месяц назад
@@ITInikitronITI yeah lol
@ahpla7195
@ahpla7195 Месяц назад
if your enemy is the enemy that the enemies enemy are the enemy's enemy enemy?
@victornusrat
@victornusrat Месяц назад
Why is your voice so similar to soupasta and juice and soup are similar and soupasta hasn't uploaded in a while soupasta is that you
@Jonathan-gn8uu
@Jonathan-gn8uu Месяц назад
Lezgooo! its our man canned juice! (also 69th comment?)
@rxcecxrx
@rxcecxrx Месяц назад
Soupasta uploaded
@diaamooond
@diaamooond Месяц назад
hey canned remember what you said about if u got tmod :)))
@Elongatedmetalpipe
@Elongatedmetalpipe Месяц назад
100% convinced he’s soupasta
@LanturnsPannies
@LanturnsPannies Месяц назад
I need more, canned juice
@andyzapata3090
@andyzapata3090 Месяц назад
Here's an example of enemy dynamics, relic enemies and nonreilic enemies, relic enemy can benefit non relic enemies by cursing crowd controllers that don't have curse immune.
@themagicalcat9017
@themagicalcat9017 Месяц назад
Hello Souptasta (very real)
@sisayisback
@sisayisback Месяц назад
how did you keep saying "Chickful A" with a straight face
@IIScarletKingII
@IIScarletKingII Месяц назад
YOOOOOOOOOO
@triplevrapid
@triplevrapid Месяц назад
15:04 i have never heard someone pronounce squirrel like that 😭
@Enter_a_name69
@Enter_a_name69 Месяц назад
The name of the enemy is literally “squi rel”
@Hydromint
@Hydromint Месяц назад
Yeah lol
@triplevrapid
@triplevrapid Месяц назад
@@Enter_a_name69 squire rel**, still only psychopaths pronounce it that way
@Enter_a_name69
@Enter_a_name69 Месяц назад
⁠@@triplevrapidguess im now a psychopath
@QWERTY708100
@QWERTY708100 Месяц назад
uice anned
@2ItalianCats
@2ItalianCats Месяц назад
🧀
@NickMarques-fr3qx
@NickMarques-fr3qx Месяц назад
FAZ O L AGORAAAAAAAAA
@logan8361
@logan8361 Месяц назад
"I love dogs" Quoted by me
@Silver1Chloride
@Silver1Chloride Месяц назад
767 views in 1 hours? Canned Juice fell off
@Tonjit41
@Tonjit41 Месяц назад
it's crazy that you act like there is good game design present anywhere in the battle cats.
@Tonjit41
@Tonjit41 Месяц назад
literally 99% of the enemies have the exact same dynamic. they're all high health high range high damage high attack speed. there zero nuance to that design and it's essentially every impactful enemy. for example master a, bunbun, boar, dark otter, r ost, etc etc etc
@Tonjit41
@Tonjit41 Месяц назад
an interaction existing doesn't mean the interaction is good game design
@es5424
@es5424 Месяц назад
The yapping is insane
@R-PTCbruh.io777
@R-PTCbruh.io777 Месяц назад
Bruh, he has Pandora and Madoka
@djwooenfnsnwlrke
@djwooenfnsnwlrke Месяц назад
anotyr4 csnne djuice viek HELP MY TYPING😊
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