The Indie Icon That Lost It All 

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It’s kind of sad how Edmund doesn’t even have the rights to the massive indie icon that he created

The End Is Nigh is the only meat boy sequel in my mind

HOLY MOLY FOECOK IS ALIVE

Super meat boy is like that one ex that you glance at one every year and then you see them working at a sweatshop.

13:53 "going for Girl Boy and Impossible Boy changes a man" line goes so hard

I'm honestly surprised you didn't mention The End is Nigh at all. It's the true spiritual successor to Super Meat Boy by Edmund McMillen himself and came out in 2017. Ed himself thinks it's criminally overlooked and one of his best games.

The squirrel is literally just a short gag in the first game that gets reused and made into a whole damn subplot in Forever for absolutely no reason.

that one dude playing forever is singlehandedly keeping the community alive

Ed: "Makes a randomly generated game." Tommy: "Makes a randomly generated Super Meat Boy sequel." Ed: "Has Ridiculon as the main composer of same game" Tommy: "Has Ridiculon as the main composer of the sequel" Ed: "Makes a spin-off that experiments with a different genre." Tommy: "Makes a spin-off that experiments with a different genre." Something tells me Tommy has not taken Ed's departure super well.

I've got a feeling that they came up with the title for Dr Fetus's Mean Meat Machine and they made it under the pretense that "we wanna make a game with this title cause it's a funny reference" and nothing more

There's a reason "100% the game!" Is a different achievement than the boy achievements.

as someone who loved super meat boy and bought forever on launch day...im re-experiencing the heartbreak all over again. meat boy cant even have a legacy in tboi four souls anymore, because team meat refused to lend edmund the ip...it makes me sad

Remember, The End is Night is the true secuel to super meat boy

0:35 There I am Gary, there I am!

The original Super Meat Boy should genuinely be considered an absolute classic by now. I played it sooooo much on a crappy laptop with no controller as a kid, and I still get its music stuck in my head from time to time. I hope the series makes a _real_ comeback someday, because it deserves a spot on the pantheon of platformers.

33:38 one fun fact about Mewgenics is, that it originally started as a Team Meat project and may even have been responsible for Forever taking so long. McMillen eventually secured the rights in 2018 and continued development with Tyler Glaiel with whom he had previously worked on The End is Nigh.

an actual sequel with the forever artstyle and hand-made levels would go hard, but oh well, good video!

The lesson: don't add forever to your videogame sequel name

Its a real shame for super meatboy forever, if only they kept they the original mechanic from the first game and make you run around and kept the punching and sliding mechanic and the level design was like the original game, maybe it could have been at least decent

Super Meat Boy is a timeless masterpiece and it never gets old. I find myself replaying it when I’m outa games to play

only took mr foekoe 20 years

Super meat boy is great! I’m so glad that it was a single game and didn’t have any sequels!

Super meat boy forever is a spinoff and I'm tired of pretending that it's not

fun fact: before steve got his name he was called mr. minecraft they later on called him steve because of his appearance in smb!

Honestly, I think Mean Meat Machine was made because someone thought of the title and then based the game around it which tied it to Puyo Puyo and to try and make it unique they threw in obstacles.

Honestly, if you want a good sequel for Super Meat Boy just play The End Is Nigh (also created by Edmund)

Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine is such an obscure reference to make, no one under the age of 25 is even gunna get that and that's only cause they released it as part of a Sonic collection for the PS2, otherwise that age jumps up to to 35-40. They shoulda just ripped off Candy Crush instead tbh.

additional note: while meat boy forever was indeed in a timed exclusive deal with epic games, it still released on switch at the same day as it did on epic, likely because it was featured in an indie world direct. playstation, xbox, and especially steam still had to wait an entire year

love the thought process behind the sequels and spinoffs "but what if he could PUNCH?? also no controls lmfao"

I still have no clue why they invested nearly 10 years into SMBF’s development. The premise of a Meat Boy mobile auto-runner spin-off was reasonable in 2013, but to grind that concept out into the mainline sequel is bizarre. I have a bad feeling Meat Boy’s future is going to look like a bunch of spin-offs under the guise of continuity.

Super Meat Boy, VVVVVV and Shovel Knight the grandfather of 2D Platformer Indie video games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember playing the demo at pax 2014 I was so excited and when Tommy handed me that IPad,then I was so disappointed, but he was right next to be watching me play so I just said I loved it. That’s a core memory for 14 year old me.

Funniest thing is that Forever took like FOUR YEARS after its initial release before it was even available on mobile. The device it was originally designed for.

Man I only heard about the sequel once and didn’t ever hear about it ever again It’s just crazy how this game was once a phenomenon then dissipated

For some time i thought that super meatboy forever was a remake of super meatboy. Then i found out that it was an autorunner sequel.

Super Meat Boy is still one of my favorite 2D platforms ever. It’s truly sad it never got the sequel it deserved. Even though my controller and my nerves will hate if it’s similar, but in the end it would be worth it. My favorite part still is the music. Especially themes like Battle of Lil Slugger, Salt Factory or C.H.A.Ds Lullaby.

The original Super Meat Boy is legitimately one of my favorite games of all time for its precise controls, its great level design and that INCREDIBLE soundtrack. Forever has NONE of those things, it's Meat Boy in name only. It's a shame that, with Edmund and Danny B gone, we'll probably never get a real Meat Boy sequel.

The End is Nigh is really the true perfect spiritual sequel to Super Meat Boy. SMBF was a huge letdown, but honestly, TEIN is my favorite platformer *ever*, even over the original SMB- It’s criminally underrated and I hope it gets more attention in the future.

I’m so glad you’ve given more love to Forever’s art style! I have the development art book for the game and it is incredibly fun to flick through

hurts my soul to see "Outer wilds" in the list of backlog games, you should definitely platy it. Also love the vid :)

I remember seeing this game called “Bird Tapper” that’s basically a good version of SMB Forever. Kinda cool.

I really like your editing, it's packed to brim yet not overedited. You're one of my most favourite fast-paced channels to watch

30:15 Showing 100% achievement in that game not instantly uninstalled after it unlike Pizza Tower showing 100% achievement with BLUE Install button is very beyond absord for me.

Forkoe's Schedule is so strange

So.... basically Sonic 4?

The funniest part of when you were comparing Puyo Puyo to Tetris was the fact that you were playing Puyo Puyo in PuyoPuyo Tetris, a game that comes with Tetris, but you use Tetris footage from a flash game

Battle block theatre mentioned🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯🗣🗣🗣🗣

Now do Iron God in The End is Nigh :D

3:25 "He isn't a sentient meat cube. He is literally just a skinless boy" 🤓

21:23 Im glad you mentioned the difficulty because the deathless achievements in Forever are just not fun. The last worlds especially are clunky and confusing lol. SMB deathless is much more rewarding of skill and determination

what if super meat boy was called super freaky boy, and instead of doing platforming gameplay it was replaced with getting freaky ‼‼

Never trust a long-awaited sequel that went through years of development hell and has "Forever" at the end of its name.

Meat boy still has potential to be popular again grahhhhh!!!!! Hopefully they lock in gameplay wise in a next one cause forever did the warp zones and animations perfectly!!!!

In short: *_Meatboy has joined RayMan on the "Lost Icons" bench_*

6:43 whats the joke here? Uterus? Or is it a reference to something im unaware of

6:43 Yes you do need to explain, what hell is this

I forgot this guy exist

NO, That is NOT Solid Snake! (scene is 24:48-24:29)

As someone who has participated in the community since 2018 and been creating custom levels for Super Meat Boy, I agree with some points. The one thing that I usually hear when talking to other people about Super Meat Boy is that nobody has made a proper sequel or at least a proper spiritual successor to the actual game (I mean this in gameplay). I know that TEIN exists, but we're talking 1:1 or pretty close to 1:1. The closest I've been able to suggest in terms of more Super Meat Boy is custom levels, but that only goes so far and usually can't improve on core mechanics to provide a better experience. There is a mod that's being worked on called "Super Meat Boy: Revamped", which I hope will bring more people into the game and hopefully into the modding/level editing scene. While Super Meat Boy is an excellent game, it has some issues that need fixing. The game can be very buggy at times and some levels like in Dark Cotton Alley aren't very fun to play. However, in terms of Super Meat Boy Forever. Super Meat Boy Forever isn't exactly the sequel I would like from a Super Meat Boy game. While yes, they can technically do whatever they want with it, it's such a stark difference from its predecessor that if it were to actually improve on anything, that it still wouldn't matter very much. The fact that it's so divergent will alienate people who played the original. I wouldn't say that Super Meat Boy Forever is exactly a bad game, in fact, I'd say it's okay. There's some things that I didn't like about it, but somethings that I did. I'll list off some of things that weren't already said in the video or that I disagree with. But most of it is positive stuff. Some of the references in the level names are cool, "Didn't Wet The Sponge" or "V Will Come" are very cool, even if it's something very minor. Some of the gimmicks can be very interesting if used correctly. I haven't played the game in ages, but I'm sure there was a level where if you jumped, you'd be running on the ceiling instead. Kind of like VVVVVV. Dark Tetanus was one of the best chapters in the entire game, it was probably the only thing I played more than once that wasn't required for completion. The crates are super satisfying to use too. Something that I did notice is that you never actually mentioned Tofu Boy in Meat Boy Forever. While I never played as him or got that far, I do know that he's the only character in the game who has different statistics, even if they don't help you very much. While I didn't experiment with the level editor in Forever as much as the Super Meat Boy one, I appreciate that everything is available to use instead of having it restricted to a certain palette. The Dark World levels are visually interesting. Instead of having a silhouette every two levels, you can now have a noir level or a gradient level. While you could technically go and do this kind of stuff in the original Super Meat Boy, it was never done officially in game and it wasn't to this scale. Mean Meat Machine though, is pretty bad in my opinion, and is something I wouldn't want to play again. The fact that you are punished really hard for something that would've been better if you just lost that puyo is actually infuriating. I only went up to the Hospital before calling it quits. I got bored and it was just... not very good. I love Puyo Puyo, I like puzzle games, but Mean Meat Machine isn't it. IMO, this is my least favorite Meat Boy game, excluding Tofu Boy. I probably screwed up somewhere along these lines, maybe I said something that I shouldn't have or have messed up what I should've said. I just wanted to get my thoughts out on this subject.

Hey atleast we got the end is nigh imo that game is even better than the og meatboy

Man nothing is better than having a game with amazing controls, to a game with no controls.

you can tell Foekoe loves piku niku as a fan or the game I can recognise whenever it is played

It would be honestly sick if we could see Meat Boy in 3D

i remember how the Kongregate version of Meat Boy had to remove the Hot Coffee reward with a big ole "censored" bar

I've been watching your videos since 2019, I've always wanted to see you make a video on super meat boy and finally, after nearly 5 years, you finally made a video on Super Meat Boy thank you, Foekoe

Thank you for using the Antibirth soundtrack. Such a gem of a soundtrack that it's a shame it isn't available in Isaac without mods.

SUPER MEAT BOYYYYYY 💯💯💯💯💯💯

as the biggest hater of Forever bc I grew up with the original game, I finally caved in for giggles and bought Forever at $2 bargain, and it has been *THE BEST GAME I'VE PLAYED IN YEARS!!* 30 hours went just like that in a single month last summer trying to beat the whole game bc I was _genuinely_ having so much fun. Yes the art style is a huge step down, yes the character auto-runs, but it's NOT a mobile auto-runner. The level design is TOP-tier, and I was blown away every level at how ingenious it was. There are actual worlds and levels, with human-crafted segments that are auto-rotated, so you get a random order, that's the only "auto-runner" part. And the character auto-running made the game honestly easier and much more fun, super fast-paced, and they fully embraced that aspect and designed the whole game around it leveraging it fully. To anyone on the fence, wait for the next deal at $1-2 and JUST BUY IT -- especially if you love fast-paced, quick-thinking, dopamine-inducing, witty level design games that feel super rewarding and are hard. Don't be like me and hate on Forever out of blind nostalgia and hating on everything new, especially if it looks bad. Just give it a try and I promise, you'll have the time of your life :)

Note to self: never make a game with the subtitle ‘forever’.

Will you %100 achivement Rain world? I got curious and checked your Stream profile only to realize Rain world's achivements is missing Is it grindy or somethin? I am not a achivement grinder so I have no idea how difficult/tedious that is

I played both of the meatboy games and I am really confused by the autorunner implemation in the sequal. The original was focused on your creativity with the slipery movement you got and thats just gone in the sequal. I still liked some of the boss fights,but I was lack luster in the grand scheme of things becasue the levels felt bland after a while. Since they had a lot of reused things from other levels.

Good video Foekoe really feels like your normal videos but just super duper long which is very epic thank you

Hello i was wondering what editing software youre using to edit these videos of art

What if Super Meat Boy was called Super Freak Boy.

I forgot you existed

RU-vid fed me an ad right in the middle of Dr fetus taking a dump, I'm not ever going to be able to think of Get Your Guide without seeing Dr fetus's log 😂

Edmund did The end is nigh. Now THAT is a fantastic meatboy-style game.

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i know alot of people have said this but you should really try his spiritual successor the end is nigh, its clear that you have heard of it but IMO its probably one of the best designed platformers I've ever played, admitidelty there are no alternate characters like SMB but its still really fun, the music is amazing and as simple as the story its interesting too see and try and figure out what it means... although most of the community for The end is nigh already knows...

Hey, glad you’re back Foekoe! But yeah… what happened to Super Meat Boy’s legacy is tragic… from Edmund or Danny B not being involved. The first initial game was fantastic… the ost, the gameplay, everything about it screamed personality… then he left the team and the rights and all hope was lost. So will Super Meat Boy make a come back…? It’s less likely now… but we can only hope.

I have a question so I want to make my own animation channel and I kind of wanna talk about video games. How do you make your character overlay with the video of the video game?

20:03 In the sequels defense: this game is about timing your moves thats why there was a wall near the spinning saws.

I LOVED the original Super Meat Boy and I played it to completion (as well as most of the Bandage Girl levels) but when I saw Super Meat Boy Forever it just kind of made me sad in the same way that Subnautica Below Zero made me sad because the original is so good (except it wasn’t as bad with SMB bc Subnautica is literally my favorite game ever while Super Meat Boy is just a fun indie game I enjoy)

6:41 I farted exactly as the same time as the sound effect, just letting you know

I love your long form videos so much dude

I've said this a million times to my friends: almost every single mechanic introduced in SMBF could've worked without the game being an auto-runner.

11:42 Oh cmon IWBTG is not that bad

Ngl, i kinda love the squirrel storyline just becuase it is the perfect mix of Dumb and cool

5:28 But wait, I thought band-aid became a generic term? A generic term is when a company loses the trademark because it became known to represent the entire product rather than the specific brand, in this case everyone says band-aid instead of bandage. And you would think for generic terms you don't need permission to use them? But then I googled it more, and trademarks apply differently to different countries (some countries may count it as a generic term, some may count it as trademarked), so maybe it's not possible to easily sell the game on an online storefront worldwide.

There are fates worse than death...

People need to stop shitting on the current team because "THEY STOLE MEAT BOY FROM EDMUND!!!!" Edmund chose to leave knowing he'd lose the rights to Meat Boy, this is not a Skullgirls situation. If you truly care about Edmund, you shouldn't be using him as an excuse to harass people that did nothing wrong other than making games you dislike.

It is the return of the king. Nice to see a main channel video

I grew up with Super Meat Boy, TBOI grew me up.

its kinda sad how the face of indie games the reason why we such some awesome indie games that are better than AAA games is now dead and also there's another reason why super meat boy forever failed the reason is that in the original super meat boy in the credits we could see that edmund was the artist and the MAIN level designer, tommy was the programmer and the level designer but tommy was less important because he wasn't the MAIN designer and, because edmund left team meat tommy is now alone he has less skill than edmund in level designing snd that's why the level design in super meat boy forever is kinda bare-bones edmund now is "the isaac guy" and although i like isaac more than meat boy its kinda sad how meat boy is kinda... left alone in a bad sequel...

Tbh I kinda like Forever. Yeah, it's got a ton of issues, very little soul and it's certainly no masterpiece like the original, but I still had fun playing it through and through and feel its well worth the cost considering it often goes for 90% off on steam for a couple bucks. The real SMB sequel is still truly The End is Nigh though.

I am a diehard fan of Super Meat Boy (Keep in mind I didn’t say Super Meat Boy Forever and I refuse to play the fetus Tetris game)

i need to know, during the sponsor segment, did you use music from the going under ost? PLEASE TELL ME IM GOING CRAZY

This video seems incredibly disrespectful. Super Meat Boy was itself a celebration of the first wave of indies at the time. You look at games like Runman, Mighty Jill Off, Machinarium, Braid, Super Meat Boy was less interested in referencing old NES games and more about bringing attention to the 'icons' of its era. Meanwhile, modern indies don't have that sort of camaraderie. At best you see Vampire Survivors collaborating with Among Us, or an indie publisher marketing all its characters at once. Nothing on par with SMB letting you swap out movesets entirely even if it breaks the game. I think the only exception to this would be Inti Creates and their DLC characters.