I would imagine as the Krell machine was pumping out the amps into Morbius's Id monster so it could burn/melt its way through the door metal it was was making everything the other side all crispy toasted, and smokey. The house would probably be well lit.
Id (イド, Ido) is a character and antagonist in Xenogears. He is a powerful, destructive being that antagonizes the party multiple times. Id possesses a relentless drive to destroy, and like many characters, he is tied to Fei Fong Wong's forgotten past. So, probably some sick martial arts combo.
This Id scared the crap out me and my brothers when I was about 11 years old. It was on tv on a saturday as a Midday Movie about 1971 during school holidays and we didn't sleep very well that night. Absolutely loved Anne Francis, as we had seen her in other shows, but this was one of her early ones.
Monsters from the ID the subconscious mind. We are the creators from our thoughts, beliefs creating the ‘reality’ we see & think is real. An amazing film as I loved as a kid & even more so now, realising what this actually means & to a degree what we are capable of
I think this movie influenced Roddenberry. Certainly Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. In one episode you can see an alien teen with pointed ears. I think it's the one with Michael Rennie. Originally the Enterprise was to have two stages one being a detachable saucer hull which would land on the surface. However this was to expensive to do each week so the transporter FX was created instead. This first FX would have looked like the landing of the United Planets Space Cruiser. Also note how similar this sounds to United Federation of Planets.
😊 One of the best Sci-fi films, along with This Island Earth, Conquest of Space, Them, Rocketship XM, The Thing from Outer Space, to name but a few, way before CGI, I prefer these to the big budget films of today, I was born the year after this came out.
Noted by the author Kingsley Amis during his lecture series at Princeton in 1958. Also noted (perhaps independently?) by the film critic Pauline Kael. Great minds think alike.
@@chrisjennings5680 No the Leftist Socialist Democrats and their Antifa thugs are the monsters and over the past several decades they have done a fine job at destroying this country, our education sucks, and they have thrown open our borders allowing criminal scum to flood into this country.
you realize of course, that Morbius' subconscious mind could have simply materialized the monster inside the room already lol. It didn't have to get through all that Krell Metal. But maybe, his mind preferred the theater of it all 😄
Absolutely love the movie, but over time I realised one potential fallacy in this scene: The all powerful machine should have been able to materialise the ID monster inside the laboratory, without it having to burn through the door, but of course, that would have made for a far less dramatic and suspense filled sequence.
@@panagea2007 Being of a fictitious nature, it would be pure, unsubstantiated conjecture as to whether it was a force, as in "Use the Force, Morbius", or a synthetic intelligence. However, for the sake of argument, let's assume it was a mindless beast controlled by Morbius' subconscious. As such, I would argue that since Morbius' subconscious IQ had been boosted higher than his conscious self, thereby allowing it to control the machine, we are talking about one hell of an intelligent ID. Therefore, I would also suggest that his subconscious could only direct the invisible monster to Morbius' location if it knew where he and the others were hiding. If so, then it could have just as easily made the moanster materialise within the lab. Morbius' conscious self knowing what his sinister subconscious was up to, is not a prerequisite for the above stated scenario to work.
@@johndzwon1966 Except the Id was not intelligent. It operated purely on animal instinct, so it would not know to teleport itself. It had to walk and stalk its prey and physically attack. We see in each appearance of the beast that it does not reason but simply acts. The darker emotions are expressed without reasoning behind them, from the more primitive parts of the brain and not from the higher reasoning centres. A person in an all-consuming rage state lashes out and is no more capable of conscious thought than a rabid dog. The same would be true of the Id Monster. The Krell machine would manifest it, give it form and power it with its energies but once it had taken form it would only act and respond as any beast would, and it could not control the power of the machine to the extent of willing itself to materialise anywhere.
The monster becomes manifest just as Morbius accepts the basic idea that the Krell’s supreme technological achievement (becoming beings without the need of instrumentalities) was their own nemesis. At that point his ID monster is activated because his conscious mind now has some vague idea where the Captain is going with his explanation of the deaths; since the Captain landed and twenty years ago. Morbius argues that the Krell all died thousands of years ago to counter the Captains explanation. At this point he is more and more aware of the source of the monsters motivations. The Id Monster is now on a mission to destroy the Captain for three reasons. Firstly it is to kill the object of his daughters earthy love (sick i know) and secondly to prevent the bearing of his own motivations to his daughter & to some extent the Captain (who he clearly has a grudging respect for). Finally, he is terrified of learning his own true nature; he ashamed and terrified of himself. You can see the final point play out once they are in the laboratory. He is clearly ashamed with his head lowered crying into his arm on the desk. He then confronts his ID Monster and denies or/ himself even though he is terrified of it/ himself. The reason the ID Monster does not simply appear next to them in the laboratory is because a Morbius is in denial of his own nature. Therefore e Morbius puts barriers up to keep the monster away. He wants to distance himself from it (Robbie detects it outside of the house initially) and it’s dark anger and desires. He normally tries to keep it out of the house because that is where his daughter sleeps. He also uses the 26 inch thick Krell metal door as a way of protecting his conscious self and his daughter from the vile ID monster. The door is melted and holes are pushed through it as a metaphor for what it wants to do (let’s leave that metaphor unspoken). This creates a feeling of utter revulsion in Morbius and gives him the courage to renounce his ID Monster. The ID Monster attacks Morbius to try to destroy the conscious self which is preventing it from doing what it wants. As Morbius dies he effectively gives his blessing to his Daughter and the Captains union by telling to destroy the planet.
"The all powerful machine should have been able to materialise the ID monster inside the laboratory, " No I disagree. Every time the monster of the id appears it was out in the open... recall the three attacks on the spaceship. All attacks originated outdoors. The attack on the home and laboratory was no exception. It would appear the id monster was fueled by a power source that needed a direct unimpeded contact, at least initially. It might not work behind 26 inches of Krell metal... almost as bad as AM radio in a tunnel. LOL Thoughts?
I know I'll undoubtedly attract vilification by this comment (and perhaps, it's already been made), but that much heat would not have made it possible for them to have remained so close to it.
Great movie but I just couldn't stop thinking about the original Ghostbusters film and Dan Ackroyds character imagining the Stay Puft Marshmallow man. Why didnt Morbious think of something a little less monstrous..😂
It's interesting that this clip cuts out the id-monster's attack on Morbius, himself. PC editing at work! Desiring death as both restitution for the comrades he'd unknowingly murdered and to protect his daughter from himself, he stood there, deliberately making himself an obstacle to the monster. The invisible monster picked him up and slammed him against the wall. The original movie showed this in graphic detail. I guess it had to be removed for RU-vid.
I have seen the old original film shown via film projectors multiple times in movie theaters, going back 47 years, and not once did I see Morbius get thrown against a wall. If such an event was filmed, it must have been edited out a long time ago. Perhaps there is some surviving print of this (?) or documentation from old original notes on production? Have you actually seen it? I know there were some early ideas in the screenplay which were either excised or never actually filmed -- like an explanation of how Altaira's telepathic connection to her tiger kept it docile. Connection broken when she gets romantic with the Captain. They also filmed a wedding between Adams and Altaira on board the ship for the very end of the movie. Don't believe that ever made it into the final cut.
The middle school romance sub plot doesn’t hold up well and in the future I guess we don’t allow women to serve on spaceships, but everything else holds up pretty well.
