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Engines of SEPTA: J.G Brill Bullets 

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The long awaited 5th episode of Engines of SEPTA. This was a pain to edit due to how much info I had to research but here it is finally! All that hard work was worth it for my favorite episode of the series so far! Yes you hear classic music from the 30s because why not, thought I'd show you a genre I like you never knew.
Chapters
Intro: 0:00
A Revolutionary Design: 1:30
Horns: 3:21
Grandads of High Speed Trains: 4:04
Brief History on the P&W: 4:47
High Speed Travel: 5:40
Great Depression & Shared Service: 6:14
Change of Owners: 7:03
Smooth Ride: 8:04
60 Years of Service: 8:49
Replacement and Final Run: 10:02
Preservation: 11:00
Legacy: 12:05
Ending: 12:41

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15 авг 2024

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@TheTrainChasingPoet1999
@TheTrainChasingPoet1999 6 лет назад
"OH, FOR GOD'S SAKE! NOT ANOTHER ONE!"
@nigtcreature1837
@nigtcreature1837 6 лет назад
Trust me. I had the same reaction when I first found out about it.
@TheTrainChasingPoet1999
@TheTrainChasingPoet1999 5 лет назад
@@nigtcreature1837 Norristown must be the Pennsylvania equivalent of Chicago.
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 5 лет назад
No the Chicago of Pennsylvania is Upper Darby (Upper Dump) or Kensington. Chester is like Detroit.
@TheTrainChasingPoet1999
@TheTrainChasingPoet1999 5 лет назад
I suppose Norristown is more like Peoria, then? Peoria has a couple shootings here and there.
@JasontheFolf
@JasontheFolf 5 лет назад
I died of laughter!
@Poisson4147
@Poisson4147 5 лет назад
To fill out the 1989-93 history a bit: When the Bullets and Strafford cars started to fail SEPTA had to shut the line down for a while. They tried special shuttle buses which of course were much slower and less reliable. There was serious talk of turning the line into BRT, but that idea was scrapped due to legal issues regarding the ROW and funding that was specific to maintaining rail service. As a stopgap SEPTA acquired six pairs of castoff CTA 6000-series cars which only needed minor modifications to run on the P&W tracks. They also took 5 (?) single M3 cars from the Market-Frankford El, regauged them using trucks from scrapped PATH cars. The CTAs were used for Norristown service, while the M3s were generally restricted to 69th St - Bryn Mawr locals. That continued until the mid-90s when the N-5 fleet was large enough to take over full service. SEPTA's not normally known for innovation but they deserve props for cobbling together a fix that worked for over half a decade. I admit I was never fond of the CTAs - they were slow, noisy, drafty, and poorly-lit - but they saved the line.
@muhammadfadhiil3430
@muhammadfadhiil3430 6 лет назад
fun fact: the Wabco AA2's were used on The NJT Arrows and the indonesian locomotives cc 201 cc 203 and cc 204 which were ge u18c and u20c's were rebuilt and re classified
@stevennicholas9337
@stevennicholas9337 6 лет назад
well yeah. cause indonesian trains are from america
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 6 лет назад
The Kawasaki Subway cars on the Broad Street line use them too. They were definitely a popular horn
@muhammadfadhiil3430
@muhammadfadhiil3430 6 лет назад
they were even the nyc subways use them well few of them
@Kmaster2007
@Kmaster2007 6 лет назад
1:15 I get the reference
@michaelpham8368
@michaelpham8368 5 лет назад
Kmaster2007 T1E2H3 reference, right?
@kunjufari
@kunjufari 5 лет назад
Further evidence that it was the US, not Japan nor France, that pioneered high speed rail technology which other industrialized countries have since used to start their own rail lines. Thank you for presenting an informative and entertaining narrarive.
@paulmishler402
@paulmishler402 5 лет назад
1:15 thats what she said 9 months later
@nathanielgenthner3272
@nathanielgenthner3272 5 лет назад
1:31 we have 2 phillidelphia & western streetcars here in operation with septa equipment in them at the museum i volenteer in
@jediraptor07
@jediraptor07 5 лет назад
My very first memories are of watching the Bullets (and the CTA 6000 cars) from my bedroom window and from the Lowry's Lane Bridge as they headed in and out of Garrett Hill Station. Thanks for letting me relive a very small but very much missed part of my childhood.
@jhill590
@jhill590 6 лет назад
Thanks for adding I remember riding these when I was a kid they could fly.
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 5 лет назад
One of them is used for excursions at the Rockhill Trolley Museum.
@nyshortline
@nyshortline 5 лет назад
A few clarifications. The P&W Bullets were numbered 200-209. The 11th Bullet was the second 203, built in 1933 to replace the original 203 which was consumed by a fire. The FJ&G cars were numbered 125-129. The P&W cars weighed 26 tons. No. 204 was quietly scrapped by the National Museum of Transportation in June of 2018, and No. 206 is preserved by the ELECTRIC CITY Trolley Museum. Loved this video, VERY well done.
@jrugg338
@jrugg338 5 лет назад
Great video. So cool you included the FJ&G Baby Bullets. My great grandfather worked for FJ&G.
@SeanBodine
@SeanBodine 3 года назад
This will always be my favorite episode.
@DanknDerpyGamer
@DanknDerpyGamer 5 лет назад
8:42 If only they were steam powered, then I could call them Grandpuff. Hahaha
@emteaay2477
@emteaay2477 3 года назад
The JG bullets lasted longer than the R32 subway cars in NYC which those cars lasted 56 years from 1964-2020
@daleearnhardtjr8673
@daleearnhardtjr8673 6 лет назад
LOL I DIED WHEN SEPTA GOT MAD AT ABB FOR BEING LATE
@Maunico0809
@Maunico0809 5 лет назад
Over 60 yrs of service wow!
@RRansomSmith
@RRansomSmith 6 лет назад
No It was classified as a Class 1 as it was intended to connect to other railroads further west to create a transcontinental line that never came to be.
@RRansomSmith
@RRansomSmith 6 лет назад
They didn't lend SEPTA 2308 It was given as a reward for the late delivery.
@interstate1335
@interstate1335 3 года назад
11:49 I’ve been there! Never saw 208 though. But it was still fun.
@physetermacrocephalus9986
@physetermacrocephalus9986 5 лет назад
The Budd R32 for the MTA New York City Subway system ran from 1964 - present day, not quite there with the bullets, but getting close.
@TheMNrailfan227
@TheMNrailfan227 5 лет назад
2:06 *_SHTËÀMŁÎÑĒD_*
@nicopavvi8494
@nicopavvi8494 2 года назад
I think that, if in the 30s there were high speed rail lines like the ones of today, probably the trains would have been very similar to those railcars.
@therealawgm
@therealawgm 5 лет назад
Hey thunderbolt I like your videos even your train crash videos I still like him because you’re entertaining fun enjoyable and you make the same videos as Amtrak guy 365 but that doesn’t stop me from watching your videos keep up the good work from Andrew Gentry Mace to thunderbolt keep up the hard work
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 5 лет назад
Thank you
@therealawgm
@therealawgm 5 лет назад
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren your weckmiil
@user-vn8uu2xu9n
@user-vn8uu2xu9n 6 лет назад
1:14 Thunderbolt 1000 siren productions 2018
@RRansomSmith
@RRansomSmith 6 лет назад
LVT ended 69th St to Norristown service in 1949 and continued Allentown to Norristown until LVT was dissolved in 1951.
@Sf_sholder
@Sf_sholder 5 лет назад
I would love to ride those cars
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 5 лет назад
You can at the Rockhill Trolley Museum.
@harrisonofcolorado8886
@harrisonofcolorado8886 6 лет назад
Awesome video!
@RRansomSmith
@RRansomSmith 6 лет назад
206 is not at Rockhill Its at Electric City Trolley Museum in Scranton
@nyshortline
@nyshortline 5 лет назад
More specific and detailed info, from "P&W Bullet cars, the World's First Bullet Trains" Facebook page: facebook.com/422891974476332/posts/767234333375426/
@josephdurning656
@josephdurning656 4 года назад
The first day septa tool over the P & w a inspector for septa ask me way i was running late i knew from that day on the history of the red arrow was over. :(
@anasiacameronelijahedcpndc4324
This year I'm gonna see a septa bullet
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 5 лет назад
At what museum?
@AMT1345
@AMT1345 2 года назад
10:18 got me laughing
@Wes8761
@Wes8761 5 лет назад
Wabco aa2s are a personal favorite
@ItzBIULDmusic
@ItzBIULDmusic 5 лет назад
Poor train... It didn't deserve to be scrapped
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 5 лет назад
Agreed.
@PercyfanJamestheredcollector
@PercyfanJamestheredcollector 6 лет назад
One of the fastest trains
@TheMNrailfan227
@TheMNrailfan227 5 лет назад
Percy fan 2000 James the red collector, uhh no. Not even on septa
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 5 лет назад
They certainly were. They're the ancestors of all high speed rail
@Strasburg_Railfaner611
@Strasburg_Railfaner611 Год назад
I’ve seen 205 on September 24th at east broad top for a test run since it hasn’t ran since 2018 it was a good moment video on my channel
@dr.huskivlogs3350
@dr.huskivlogs3350 3 года назад
I’ve seen that bullet in ST. LOUIS because I live Missouri
@TheMNrailfan227
@TheMNrailfan227 5 лет назад
Could you possibly do the Septa street cars?
@himbourbanist
@himbourbanist 2 месяца назад
These are very cool looking. the NHSL is such a strange line. I'm genuinely curious what the future holds for it since speeds have been cut back, and I've heard that the current cars on the route acquired in the 90's (I think?) are starting to experience mechanical failures that regularly cause delays on the line. I'd love to one day see the line re-tooled as an extension of the L with frequent through-running service from Norristown all the way to Frankford TC. I'm kind of afraid that once the cars go, SEPTA will put the line out of service and it will sit abandoned.
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 2 месяца назад
Abandonment is certainly not gonna happen. The line is a crucial connection from Norristown, toward the "main line" suburbs of Philadelphia, all the way to the dumpster fire called 69th st. They did try a branch extension to King of Prussia but the project stalled from cost overruns and NIMBYs. The replacement cars the N5s are indeed big rolling piles of junk being top heavy, unreliable, and a pain in the ass to run. SEPTA hasn't drafted any replacement cars for the NHSL yet but abandonment? cmon now.
@TruenoD12
@TruenoD12 6 месяцев назад
The horn uses the aa2 air horn is also being used in Indonesia
@RRansomSmith
@RRansomSmith 6 лет назад
Um no, There were only 10 cars, 200-209 (displayed as 0-9 on the roof above each air scoop on each end).
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 6 лет назад
Thanks for the correction.
@Poisson4147
@Poisson4147 5 лет назад
The original order was for 10 cars. One was destroyed and Brill built a replacement. Technically 11, but only 10 ever ran at one time.
@Straffordcar
@Straffordcar 5 лет назад
Also, the 11th car, the replacement 203 had steel under frame with aluminium skin. It was heavier as a result, and the difference could be felt in the ride.
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 5 лет назад
12:01 So depressing to see.
@kyleb06
@kyleb06 5 лет назад
Sounds like a remix of Quantic's "Time is the Enemy"
@tameek1842
@tameek1842 6 лет назад
Do the market frankford line trains history
@doggerbendrailway6002
@doggerbendrailway6002 5 лет назад
Any idear when next one is or is it still on hold ?
@4bfb704
@4bfb704 6 лет назад
Good
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 5 лет назад
7 have been preserved.
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 5 лет назад
Glad because these things made the NHSL possible!
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 5 лет назад
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren Rockhill Trolley Museum has an operating bullet trolley that was modified with a pole for excursions.
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 5 лет назад
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren I believe there is also one at the Seashore Trolley Museum.
@nyshortline
@nyshortline 4 года назад
6 are preserved. 203, 207, and 208 are at the Seashore Trolley Museum; 205 is at the Rockhill Trolley Museum and runs every Member's Day which is around Memorial Day and every first Saturday of October during the Fall Spectacular; 206 is at the Steamtown National Historic Site in Scranton PA; and 209 is preserved at the PA Trolley Museum in Washington PA.
@kwydir7362
@kwydir7362 6 лет назад
didn't even remember this because of the n5s
@Lorsterthe34st
@Lorsterthe34st 3 года назад
No, noo, Nooo, gettin close, stil- *what Noah WhiteHouse said*
@EstCrossings
@EstCrossings 5 лет назад
2:18 Anoher design that the soviets ripped off. The cab on this looks very similar to the ER1 and ER2 Electric Multiple Units.
@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 2 года назад
I’ve seen the one at the NMT
@PercyfanJamestheredcollector
@PercyfanJamestheredcollector 6 лет назад
Nice
@muhammadfadhiil3430
@muhammadfadhiil3430 5 лет назад
can you re upload this with better and louder audio
@patrykplayz7
@patrykplayz7 Год назад
Wabcos are on the nyc subway work trains
@closed9446
@closed9446 5 лет назад
11:02 NOTE: septa bullet trolley 207 almost collided with bullet trolley 202 in 1/26/1987
@nyshortline
@nyshortline 4 года назад
Contrary to very popular belief the Bullets are NOT trolleys. They were never called trolleys until SEPTA took the line over in 1970. Without any more on line freight, SEPTA isolated the line and only then did it become a trolley operation. The Bullets are electric MU cars just like MP-54's only lighter and a lot faster.😊
@24_Kays_Way
@24_Kays_Way Год назад
No-O FOR GOD SAKES NOT ANOTHER ONE
@courtemanche437
@courtemanche437 5 лет назад
I was waiting for a joke about a bucket of ice at 4:33 but I guess the one picture gag per episode was wasted at the beginning with the "bullet" thing
@elicarter6508
@elicarter6508 5 лет назад
and the old broad street line cars there are still some at fern rock
@nothisispatrick6180
@nothisispatrick6180 5 лет назад
But 201 didnt get preserved makes sence :p
@nyshortline
@nyshortline 5 лет назад
200 was scrapped after a crash, 201 and 202 both scrapped due to fires. 204 scrapped by the National Museum of Transportation in St. Louis.
@Thatgamingdiary
@Thatgamingdiary Год назад
Do Kawasaki B-IV on the Broad Street Subway or Adtranz M-4 on the El
@theshortsguy8685
@theshortsguy8685 3 года назад
OH FOR GODS SAKE NOT ANOTHER ONE!!!!!!!!!!!
@bmteastern256
@bmteastern256 6 лет назад
Wait, so the NHSL ran subway style cars?
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 5 лет назад
At one point, yes.
@GoldenOne131
@GoldenOne131 5 лет назад
The Flying Hamburger now I'm hungry for one rigth now
@sonic23233
@sonic23233 4 года назад
You need to go to the Pennsylvania trolley museum
@amjkodaz
@amjkodaz 6 лет назад
Engines of SEPTA, SEPTA AEM-7s
@aydenkendlick
@aydenkendlick 6 лет назад
Hey they have 209 at the pennsylvania trolley museum
@emperorpalpatine2531
@emperorpalpatine2531 4 года назад
Video on the mp54s?
@katerinaroberts5850
@katerinaroberts5850 Год назад
Hey thunderbolt, um, I've been to the Utah state railroad museum, and the bullet is not there at all, just adding some clarification.
@number9-sk921
@number9-sk921 3 года назад
60 years of service? Pche, that is nothing at Slovakia are beeing dispatched 88 years old locos to normal service, but they are also getting out slowly out of service.
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 3 года назад
Union Pacific 844 isn't far from that. 77 years of service without an official retirement, and she's a big 1944 built steamer.
@Sf_sholder
@Sf_sholder 5 лет назад
I saw a jb bullet car on lots and lots of trains 2
@Benthetrainkid
@Benthetrainkid 4 года назад
11:22 That's Electric City Trolley Museum, not Rockhill
@elicarter6508
@elicarter6508 5 лет назад
how about the budd cars for the mkl
@Lobblobb
@Lobblobb 5 лет назад
looks like a x7 railcar / rälsbuss inswedish (railbuss)
@bmteastern256
@bmteastern256 6 лет назад
It's not Slow speed. The correct term is Low speed.
@spdaylight1
@spdaylight1 5 лет назад
he's right.
@farahismail13
@farahismail13 5 лет назад
Pffft Everybody knows theres basically *no speed*
@collinromeo641
@collinromeo641 5 лет назад
i get the opening refrence
@KaaimanProductions
@KaaimanProductions 5 лет назад
They look like mat 40 trains from the netherlands
@penkagenova7073
@penkagenova7073 5 лет назад
1:10 is that supposed to refer to Thomas1Edward2Henry3 NWR origins with Donald and Douglas? I literally watched it
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 5 лет назад
Yes. I just had to
@atsfrailfan5367
@atsfrailfan5367 4 года назад
pls make the mp54
@Boypogikami132
@Boypogikami132 3 года назад
1:10-1:20 "morristown bullets" *pic of shinkansen* "nooooo" *pic of rounds from a gun* "nooooo" *pic of silver bullet movie* "still no" *pic of Amtrak Acela* "getting close" *pic of news saying that another shooting happened* "FOR GOD SAKES NOT ANOTHER ONE" *pic of morristown bullets* "there you go thank you" me: lol
@aydenkendlick
@aydenkendlick 6 лет назад
Im a member there
@hotmomc1665
@hotmomc1665 5 лет назад
Music at the begining pls?
@nathanielgenthner3272
@nathanielgenthner3272 5 лет назад
I think we have one of those cars but its in new jersey transit paint... so is it one of them or is it not?
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 5 лет назад
I doubt it.
@nathanielgenthner3272
@nathanielgenthner3272 5 лет назад
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren go to the new york museum of transportations website there a photo of it
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 5 лет назад
I think you mixed it up with a PCC trolley
@nathanielgenthner3272
@nathanielgenthner3272 5 лет назад
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren yeah sorry about that i did mix it up with a PCC
@robloxgrbhrg2034
@robloxgrbhrg2034 6 лет назад
Flying hamburger lol
@Poisson4147
@Poisson4147 5 лет назад
It went to the city of Hamburg !
@nyshortline
@nyshortline 5 лет назад
In other words, the "Hamburg Flyer." Built some 3 years after the Bullets and borrowed heavily from their design. Holds the world speed record for diesel-powered trains at 150 MPH.
@imnothere3107
@imnothere3107 5 лет назад
It's Odakyu not Udakyu
@stockportcountyfc7272
@stockportcountyfc7272 5 лет назад
Can you focus one topic one ☝️. Because u do train crashes the funny moments
@xokyoto9045
@xokyoto9045 3 года назад
Thomas1edward2henry3 Reference
@p3n1_85
@p3n1_85 5 лет назад
intro song?
@The4905
@The4905 3 года назад
4:45 😋
@Random.Channel_
@Random.Channel_ 5 лет назад
Lol the roblox anger
@dannyh.s.1936
@dannyh.s.1936 5 лет назад
What does ABB stand for?
@stephenlaarkamp7344
@stephenlaarkamp7344 5 лет назад
Asea Brown Bovari
@Poisson4147
@Poisson4147 5 лет назад
@@stephenlaarkamp7344 *Boveri. It's a Swiss-Swedish firm.
@battleshipfan3435
@battleshipfan3435 4 года назад
Not hamburger flyer its hamburg flyer.
@joimartin4133
@joimartin4133 5 лет назад
4:16 Not trying to be a grammar nazi here, but its pronounced o-da-kyu
@pacman3279
@pacman3279 Год назад
Doo a blooper vid
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 5 лет назад
The cars that replaced them were ugly.
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 5 лет назад
Agreed.
@Sf_sholder
@Sf_sholder 5 лет назад
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