Soo, "the problem of the Russian language" is not that you can't translate English words into Russian but that Russian have many ways to translate them that are more context sensitive. Which makes Russian language more accurate. It's sounds to me that the video is mislabeled and should be called "Russian phrases that English can't deferentiate".
@@rzhanina да постоянно слышу и сам использую (27лет). Плюс вопрос стоял что это "непереводимо", хотя и в русском и в английском используется одно и тоже выражение. И буквальный перевод означает тоже самое что и английская фраза)
i wanted to say how helpful i have found your channel. started learning russian 2 years ago. this place has helped me stay motivated with easy to watch quick lessons that keep me inspired and wanting to learn more. ❤
I heard "it's impossible to have fun in Russia". I really enjoy the sentiment that you don't just leave things hanging in Russian like "let's do something" and in the end nothing gets done, you have to be active and decisive about it.
I'm russian and recently caught myself at trying to say "good for you" in russian as an answer to "I have passed my exam", and at the time I came to "рад за тебя". It's funny that I chose English feeling in my mind and couldn't express it, I stumbled.
@@Rilintar-live I'm american(not by birth) n have been learning russian for only 8 months. Immediately, браво для ты came to mind. Is that a wrong sentence?
@EddyJean-claude we usually don't say "bravo" but in this situation you do can just say "bravo" without "for you". You can say "молодéц", "рад за тебя", "неплохо", "хорошо", "прекрасно"... But literally "bravo for you" doesn't exist in Russian. "Рад за тебя" translates as "I'm glad for you". "Я" throws out. But russians are usually very tolerant to improper Russian if you are a tourist. And your "браво для ты" will understand, and help you anyway. P.S. you forgot cases. When you use "для" you should use genitive case of "ты" - "тебя".
@@EddyJean-claude just say молодчик или клёво, very close in meaning to the slightly disdainful good for you, depends on context and intonation of course. браво is also ok, but a bit sugary.
This happenes to me sometimes too, I am Czech and I wanted to say free market (volný trh) but I typed volný market, like half English, half Czech for no reason. 😀
Great video. I love topics like this. I think you did one about the saying: “ I’m excited!” Which was helpful. Because I always wondered how to express that idea
I am Russian American - grew up speaking Russian and English in California. A GREAT challenge for translation is to translate popular American rock n roll songs into Russian. For example the Stones - Ley's Spend the Night Together. I tried Billy Joel's "For the Longest Time" - I came up with "Na Vecki Vek". It's quite a challenge - ESPECIALLY to maintain the rhythm and sense of the song!!!
Na Veki Vechniye / На Веки Вечные is the Russian for "For the Longest Time" And yes, translating poetry and song lyrics is way harder than translating regular text, one must be fluent in both languages to do this. So it would sound beautiful and kept the meaning.
@@natashacollier5248 The first syllable. KISHka7. Kishka in Russian is a tube or intestine. It can also refer to a garden hose. I simply took the TUBE in RU-vid and used it. I'm always mixing Russian and English in sign-on things and passwords. makes it interesting !
Если бы ты ночью распрощалась со мной. Все равно осталась бы музыка. Делать болше нечего, я так вдохновлен тобой. Не было такого в мои века... Как-то так? Я вообще не думаю, что "На века" тут подходит. Какой-то дополнительный смысл закладывает, которого не было в оригинале и банальное "очень долго" подойдет лучше.
Думаю, что я мог бы заменить "have fun". Есть слово веселиться, но можно добавить приставку "по" ( [по]веселиться). Таким образом, если моя девушка уходит на мероприятие/вечеринку/встречу, то при прощании, я мог бы сказать "повеселитесь" или "желаю повеселиться". Что, по своей сути, полностью передает смысловую нагрузку фразы "have fun".
You forgot the 3rd meaning of "to go out". Which is dating sm1 romantically...or go on a date. Ex. I've been going out with for 3 months now. As....I've been dating her .....
The word Тусова́ться is rarely used like this lately, with time it has transformed into shorter and more common Туси́ть. Words Тусо́вка and Ту́са are used like 50/50, depending on context, because they mean both a group of people and a party. Well, this sounds funny because party is exactly a gathering of invited people (partners) in the first place. But in Russian "тусовка" is a slang word so it's not used for political parties or romantic partnership, for those there's a formal word "па́ртия" borrowed from English as is. So here we come to an important conclusion - in English "party" means any gathering whether it's for serious business or just to idle, but "тусовка" means a gathering only to idle / celebrate / have fun, for serious stuff there are different words. Some examples of the slang usage: Можно у тебя потуси́ть немного? - Can I hang out at your place for a while? Зату́сим / Тусанë́м сегодня? - Shall we hang out today? Ну, чё, погнали туси́ть? - Ok, so, let's go hang out / have some fun? Приходи, у нас тут ту́са! - Come, we're having a party here! Здесь такая стрë́мная тусо́вка собралась, что я собираюсь свали́ть... - There's such a weird crowd here that I'm gonna leave... I've highlighted it, but remember, letter Ё is always stressed. картёжник - card player платёж - payment And don't forget to use the letter, because the meaning change can be huge, like for example: передохнём - we'll take a rest передо́хнем - we'll die out
@@bshthrasher Great explanation, thanks! Also, it looks like the verbs тусить, затусить, потусить don’t have a first-person singular form (I can’t say я тусу). So, in this case you’d have to use тусовать /тусоваться? Я тусую or я тусуюсь
@@marcplanet4776, the correct form is "я тушу́", it's totally usable. But in a different context it can be also used to say "я тушу́ огонь" - "I'm putting out fire" or "я тушу́ овощи" - "I'm stewing vegetables". "Я тусуюсь" is also fine. Я тушу́ / тусу́юсь здесь уже 3-й час. - I'm hanging out here for over 2 hours now.
@@bshthrasher ok, I thought that «я тушу» referred only to the verb тушить (put out, extinguish, as you mentioned). Interesting that it can be used for the verb тусить as well.
@@marcplanet4776, the logic is similar to the pairs писа́ть - пишу́, беси́ть - бешу́. Туси́ть -> тушу́, but this form is different тусова́ться -> тусу́юсь.
Yes, “зависа́ть” is exactly the word that Russians came up with to translate "hang out" literally. But it also has other meanings. When said about computer or other device it means "to freeze", stop working from excessive load or an error, can be also said in this exact sense about a person. When said about flying object it means holding the same position in the air, like helicopter or drone or somebody in the highest point of a jump.
В своей компании мы ещё иногда говорим «давайте затусим». Правда, никто из нас не тусит по барам и дискотекам, в нашем случае это означает просто собраться вместе либо дома, либо на природе))))
@@rusinkaRus Мне кажется, но я могу ошибаться: " тусоваться" и другие производные от этого слова, пошли из уголовной "фени", тусовать колоду карт, при тусовании карты(пиплы) собирают вместе.......!
For a GREAT musical translation from English to Russian of a well known musical check out "CHICAGO". Get the sound track. Then find the Russian translated version done by Phillip Kirkorov. YOU WILL BE AMAZED!! The Russian singers he uses sound PRECISELY like the American singers. The fascinating part is many of the idioms in the words when translated into Russian ARE MORE ACCURATE and EXPRESSIVE!! When my wife found the translation online I listened to it and was TOTALLY AMAZED!!!!
Well we can say "хорошо повеселиться", I don't.. really see anything wrong with that.. When she'll come back, I could ask "повеселились?". Like, that would not be something out of the ordinary
We also have a old-fashioned translation of the phrase "to go out", - "выйти в люди". This phrase has exactly the same meaning, but now you can only hear that from older people.
"- have fun!" may be translated as "Повеселитесь там!" in informal context "- to hang out" mb as "Зависать" "take your time" is an idiom, so yeah, use an indirect translation All of these can be easily translated except one Not the level of "sibling" tho ofc
Serious Learner here: It seems that the website link in the description is not taking me to the website. (Serious Learner - started learning about 2 years ago for my fiancée (and possible professional opportunities) and I am planning to try for the TRKI soonish.)
Do you know why U in English often becomes В in Russian? Like autobus > автобус, Europe > Европа, Australia > Австралия? Is it related to the Latin root?
Unlikely. Autobus and Europe have Greek roots. And it's too easy to provide examples of words that begin with "ау" and come from Greek. Аудит (audit), аудитория (audience), аура (aura), аутентичный (authentic).
Trying to translate an exact phrase word for word is a difficult exercise when the English phrase itself doesn't DIRECTLY mean what the words suggest, which is why it's better to use the closest match of the intended message. To "hang" means to suspend something with a rope or over an edge, and "out" is basically the opposite of "inside", so trying to translate the words "Let's hang out" directly is like saying "Let's go outside to hang or suspend ourselves with ropes", which would be a head scratcher. The intended message is "let's get together just to relax and/or not do anything in particular". One could then have fun trying to explain what "hang out" alludes to, like "being a couple of full sacks hanging in storage, not going anywhere or doing anything urgent or productive".
It’s funny that sometimes figurative meanings in different languages coincide. And "hang out" is just such an example of such a phrase. "hang out" can be correctly translated literally as "зависнуть," and in the figurative sense, it will mean exactly the same in Russian as in English. "Let's hang out" translates to "Давай зависнем."
привет, видела твое видео про перевод тик токов янчика, но как насчет разбор русских мемов и шуток? я думаю, что иностранцам может быть интересно узнать больше о такой части русских
In Australia at least, "to go out" can also mean "to go on a date (with someone)" or "to be in a (romantic) relationship". I'm not sure if this meaning is used outside of Australia though.
Чёрт, приятно, когда кто-то говорит на английском, и всё абсолютно понятно, даже если это ускорено на 1,5. In English a lot of phraces, that sounds oddly in word-by-word translation. "Have a good time", "undone shirt" and et cetera, we just use another words for describing same things. You can only hold it in your mind. (Sorry my poor English, btw). Стой, а ты из России? Тогда понятно, почему твоё произношение такое чистое для моего слуха.
Nah, the phrase "Давайте вместе проведём время" isn't one that was in my social circles. It feels more natural to suggest "Давайте (вместе) сходим куда-нибудь" - how about we go somewhere nice.
There is the classic question and answer sequence, of a mother to her son: "Where did you go?" "Out." "What did you do?" "Nothing." I wonder if that would even translate to Russian.
If you want to save the joke, it will require some adaptation, so it will become: - "Где вы были?" - "Там." -"Что делали?" -"Ничего." ("Where did you go?" "There." "What did you do?" "Nothing.") You can translate it like - "Где вы были?" - "На улице." -"Что делали?" -"Ничего.", but this dialog in Russian will not be funny
@@marcplanet4776, that's right, and they borrowed it not because there wasn't a direct translation, maybe it was because they didn't understand the combination of "chill" and "out" completely or maybe just to sound cooler, maybe both, and sometimes foreign words are even getting borrowed just for fun :)
It is used sometimes. More often by parents to the kids and quite rare between peers. The reason is pretty simple, in Russian “развлекайся” sounds like a permission and not like a wish towards other person. And it is exactly because we hear it from parents when we grow up so it has this condescending tone to it like "I allow you to have fun". Of course there's nothing wrong with the word itself, it is absolutely fine in terms of meaning, literally it means "entertain yourself".
@@bshthrasher Thanks, that’s helpful. Would the meaning change if i used the perfective form of the verb: развлекись! ? I have the impression that when we use the imperative of the verb in imperfective form (развлекайся) it has more of this tone of permission like you said.
@@marcplanet4776, good thinking, that makes sense! Yeah you can use it ofc, but it doesn't sound natural as a standalone word, a native would say it like this for example: Ладно, развлекись там! - Ok, have fun there! Or like this: Развлекись по полной! - Have fun to the fullest!
@@marcplanet4776 "Развлекись" sounds unnatural, and this form is more likely to sound like a command, simply because it is rarely used. "Развлекайся" is a frequently used form, and it doesn't sound like permission, it's a wish. Perhaps someone is traumatized by their mother from childhood. But that's not your problem, guessing how someone was traumatized by their mother in childhood. Especially when learning a new language. In general usage, it is simply a wish. Similarly, "выздоравливай" is often used as a wish. Also, be careful when constructing phrases with interjections. They can change the meaning of a phrase to the opposite with different words. And I advise you to check what people tell you in dictionaries. Even native speakers sometimes misunderstand the meaning of words or phrases. The phrase "Ладно, развлекись там" is more likely to be perceived as permission than your original version. Simply because the word "ладно" is used in situations where you reluctantly agree to something.
Проблема в том, что тогда видео не запилишь, что якобы всё намного сложнее, чем буквальный перевод. Не, оно, конечно, бывает, но тут явно все примеры мимо.
translating words is not translation, and the statement that something is "untranslatable" is sheer BS. Anything that can be said in one language can be said in another. And it's not about translating words.
To be more accurate, every known concept in one language can be translated into another. There is many words that just don't have concepts or "mental images" for more tribal languages that make direct translation without showing or explaining the concept impossible and then the word to describe it concept in the language of whoever explains it is more likely to become "lended" word for this concept in the language like "hentai" or "carousel". Or some mutation of this word, like tea for chai or hanbabao for hamburger.
Nice question! You can try this construction: " через не могу" ( even though I can't ) "Я работаю через не могу." = I work even though I can't work. "Я держусь через не могу" = I'm staying strong even though I can’t staying strong. etc. This pattern is very common in spoken Russian.
@@EddyJean-claude, we don't really say it like that, but yeah, if you said "я уже на пустом баке работаю" (I'm working on empty tank already), or "у меня топливо закончилось" / "у меня горючее закончилось" (I'm out of fuel) people would get what you mean of course. Usually when we're tired we say "я без сил" = I'm exhausted, or "я валюсь с ног" = I'm falling off my feet. Drivers have an idiom "я обсох", which means "I'm dry / I've dried out", they use it when tank goes empty on the road, non-drivers would be having a hard time understanding this one properly in a different context :)
My understanding is that expressions that cannot be directly translated are called IDIOMS. For example, "I am all ears" means "I am listening carefully" and it loses its intended meaning when translated.
Can Russian's say "Our war on Ukraine is a crime against humanity for which we are all culpable" ... Maybe not though for reasons other than linguistics.
Hang out ещё и "болтаться" как в "молодняк болтается у гаражей" - "the kids are hanging out in the garage", перевод естественно с поправкой на особенности быта и жилой застройки.
