When I was a boy in England during the 1960’s, I used to go with my dad in his lorry (truck). In those days loads were roped and sheeted by the driver. The dollyknot was the first knot I could tie properly, as he used to rope his whole load (with a single rope usually) on both sides using Dolly knots on every hitching point.
all so true. back in 1950s/60s long before the Ratchet straps. if the rope`s got wet over night they got loose and we would have to tighten down before driving off, also when the hot sun dried rope out it would all go tight. sisal rope!
Excellent video mate ... you know how to do the knot properly. So many folk advising to use the slip knot which is not a trucker's hitch. Heavy tension and certain ropes will bind and you'd spend ages getting the damn thing out. No self respecting trucker would use it. Kudos and well done for showing folks how it is done properly.
Thank you sir, I get so much value out of this hitch and it blows my mind that most people in my trade don't even know how much you can do with it, much less how to tie it properly. It's one of my favourites!
I am an English Trucker.....that the very same way I have done it from when I was 17.....I am now 70. I still remember when I was first shown it by a much old truck driver.....I was amazed. All the other examples I see on youtube are poor in comparison.....and over complicated.... Great Video.
I think it was 48 years ago I was taught this on marina as a teenager where I first learnt about knots, 35 years ago I was employed to lash and sheet flatbacks for the drivers, cutting and splicing all the frays at weekend and now I have been a trucker myself for 20 years. Although there is one I learnt that is not on internet in the whole as far as I know because it adapts in three different, normal roads, bad roads,off road. I may share it one day....taught it by a poacher who worked on farms when I was a kid....its what they used to teach in the army 21 lancers (Tank regiment)....my father taught him and he taught me years later.
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I used to use this knot for roping and sheeting chemicals. I worked in the yard, and we had some chemicals which had to go in an open trailer for delivery, so we had to use sheets. We often used a double dolly, and tightened it by stepping in the loop to make it really tight. Great video, well explained.
Straight and to the point. Brilliant. I used to do these literally with my eyes shut as it was easier but I didn't need it for a while and and forgot how to do it. Many thanks Educated Climber.
THANKS PATRICK !! I USED THE TRUCKERS HITCH TODAY TO STRAIGHTEN UP A SMALL DIAMETER ASH WHICH LEANED PRETTY HARD TOWARD A BUILDING..WORKED OUT WELL.THANKS FOR MAKING THIS VID.
Hey mate greetings from Australia,just wanted to say a big thank you for all your very useful and informative easy to understand video's that you have posted, keep those great video's coming and keep up the great work
When I was taught to do it the old trucker told me when making it the loop at the top was the head then when you formed the bottom loop it was the body so I always figured that was the reason
I was taught the knot back in Yorkshire, northern England and we called it a wagoners hitch. Always been my go too knot for tying a load i can't stand those ratchet straps! Great video
This is correct, standard UK truckers knot, though if you're right handed you may find it a bit easier to do it the opposite hand. i.e. take the first 'big bite' as you call it in your left hand and not your right hand as once you've rested the first fold on top of the rope you can do the slightly trickier bit with your good hand. Works both ways just the same of course. The big bite doesn't need to be that big, less than half that size is just fine. You can do a third wrap for a bit extra grip.
I think i know about 10 to 15 different ways of doing a truckers hitch, but i always use this one because 9 out of 10 times when it comes to undoing and recoiling the rope, its pissing down.
This is the best trucker's hitch I know of - far superior to the all others and I use it daily. I have always known it to be called the 'Dolly Knot' because of its three parts - head body and legs. I delivered some timber to a farm in Wales the other week and the customer remarked that he hadn't seen a 'Harvest Knot' in years so it seemingly goes by a number of names which I guess depends upon your occupation.
I love learning different names for this knot - I just call it the English Trucker's because it was shown to me by an English tree surgeon living here in Canada. Thanks for watching!
I really like the Truckie Knot ... although I just started learning knots today (well there was that double granny knot known as the square knot and I can tie my shoes ...)
I love learning knots. Ropework and knots are one of the most timeless skills known to man, but these days it is a disappearing art. Good luck on your knot learning journey Sean!
I have seen about 30 videos, some very appealing, like the one by @CoalCrackerBushcraft, BUT, this is, indubitably The Best! Starting my practice, now! Doing it in the forest. Thanks a Gazzillion Tonnes from India! Update 2. The 550 paracord that I am using, tightens the loops and they don't hang like they do with this thick rope in the video.
Man I've been using an alpine butterfly for the loop, but this is clearly better because it unties so easily. Judging from the remarks below by truckers, this knot is evidently more robust than one would think. I wonder if it ever falls apart if the lines become loose as the load settles.
Very cool. I made up something very similar. It takes slightly longer to set up and requires an extra biner, but has a little less friction. One other thing I add to help this is instead of tying up high in the tree, I'll add a natural crotch 2-1. The rope STARTS at the tree where you had your sling, then it goes up to a solid high crotch in the tree you're pulling over, then it comes back down to the tree you have your sling on and you set up your mechanical advantage. Now you almost double your pulling power right off the hop
One thing that I didn't mention in the video that I wish I had, is that in this application, the friction of rope-on-rope actually adds to the setup, acting almost like a progress capture. So you can put all of your pull into the line, and then hold that pull easily thanks to the friction. I remember one time during my apprenticeship, we used this trucker's hitch, piggy-backed on itself like in the video, to pull the 40HP stump grinder up a hill in the rain after it had slid down sideways. So many people are negative on the friction in this hitch, but you would be amazed at just how much of a pull you can get with it. Minimalism at its finest!
Very nice. I've been using a slip knot and really hated dealing with the mess it makes. Is there any problem using the Alpine Butterfly? This seems to use less rope. Thanks for the great knots!
Count the number of ropes at the anchor point should be 3 to make a 3 to 1. I may b confused but i thought he had a 3 to 1 system at the beginning of it before he added thy other loOP s.
so instead of taking a bite through the loop and then all the back to the krab, I put a krab with a pinto onto the loop and then sent the rope through that. So no rope on rope friction. Doubled it up and it was a beast. Can anyone tell me a problem with that? all I can think of is not knowing the limits of the gear overdoing it. Im thinking of getting a couple of pinto rigs, a rig plate, and experimenting with back leaners
That certainly works, and lots of people do it that way. I actually prefer the rope on rope friction in many ways, it acts almost like a progess capture, helping to hold the tension for you. Lots of different options! If you are getting serious into playing with backleaners, I would look at getting a fiddle block setup for super-low friction 5:1 action plus built-in progress capture. - Patrick
Is it because there are actually 3 lines going to the "load"? I want to know as well. On my block and tackles you count the number of lines going to the pulley attached to the load. Also by adding another truckers hitch like he did, is it 5:1?
Though some people call all these types of hitches 'Trucker's hitches', a lot of people differentiate and call this type a 'Truckie's hitch'. Of course this is based on a half-sheepshank, meaning half-hitch around a bight. Trucker's hitches have a knot tied in the line that forms the pull-loop. Various knots can be used. Don't know why this is called an 'english' hitch lol. I've seen a couple of Aussie vids that use this same two half-hitches around the bight with the second behind the first and it weren't no 'english' hitch. Just a Truckie's hitch. Btw, for the life of me I can't see why twisting the lower bight does anything. I used to twist it but then could see no possible reason for it. Plays no part in the tensioning. Nothing.
Bixby, I made up the name and I call it 'English' because an Englishman showed it to me, combined with the fact that in 10 years of tree work I have never seen anyone else in the world of arboriculture using this variation of the knot. My interpretation of the Truckie's vs Trucker's was that the Truckie's involves a fixed anchor point, like a post or rail, and a Trucker's can involve something midline attachable, like a 'biner. I'm probably way off with that but that's just how I think about it. As far as the extra twist, I used it for years without the extra twist and it totally works, but in the process of teaching it to other people, they seem to get better results with the extra twist. The knot will untie itself without sufficient tension and the twist seems to help keep this from happening. The extra twist is not necessary, that's just how I teach it to noobs.
It's the standard load lashing hitch used by truck drivers in the UK. It was taught to me by my father back in the 1950's. He'd used it all his working life and I used all of mine, both of us driving HGV's in the UK. Odd thing though, from what I've seen on the Internet Auzzie drivers tend to try to use the hitch on the nearside of the vehicle with short lengths of rope. We favoured using much longer ropes zigzagging the same rope all along the load.
Yes, I have seen it a couple times called the Lorry hitch. Shown to me by an Englishman by the name of Andy Lake. I just don't see it being tied this way on this side of the pond, so I teach it to new tree surgeons all the time. Still one of my favourites for minimalists!
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM as a third generation English lorry driver I was taught to tie this hitch by my grandad, he called it a hay man's hitch or donkey's lug (lughole - ear); as he used a waggon and horses before he drove a lorry I'm happy continue calling it a hay man's hitch. By the way you don't need to put in the second wrap but always works better with the twist. Two's tight enough three'll break the rope. @donfink7063 Always zig-zag.
EducatedClimber.com been using it the same way for 30 years but to save time on the last dolly I use and automatic truckers hitch.. Saves tieing it for short runs
Too much rope in his hand to begin with. Half that amount would be enough. And English trucker old school would use a lot less loop when sheeting a load . Too much would be flapping about