I am happy to see B tier Chinese manufacturers producing serious competition for the Europe market finally! Impressive commuter solution. Belt drive Bafang is top notch, Tektro is fine and battery is easily replaceable. Rack looks good as well. This 3 speed "automatic" gearing seems like a NO GO for trekking- but i guess you have to cut corners somewhere to get to this price point. Hopefully there will be more competition in the belt drive solutions. Very exciting stuff!!!!
It's good to see them really step up with this P275 Pro and the ST model if people want step-thru and gears. The 3 speed hub is different I would prefer manual control of the 3 gears but it's certainly better than the single speed and belt every other brand seems to use. Both climbing and top speed is better with those 3 gears.
Yes, but the BIG problem for many is the lack of support & warranty, which explains why they were cheaper. Doesn't make any sense to introduce more expensive models TILL they get those issues sorted.
Did you try it on unpaved roads? Curious how it feels when there's no suspension. I don't mean off-road or forest paths, but countryside roads I like to take.
Mid drive makes so much more sense with a wide range derailleur gear set. Belts are fine, but i can live with oiling and cleaning a chain if it means i can climb very steep hills easier.
Can't decide between this Engwe P275 Pro or Fiido C21. I'm tall (195cm) and want a daily commuter (7km round trip) for flat and MAYBE the occasional weekend longer trip (mainly flat with the odd hill). Both of your reviews made me want them! I like the rocket mode of C21 (for when I can sneakily use it) but the battery seems a bit on the small side and scared it will be useless in a year or 2. Decent samsung battery, plus belt on Engwe very tempting. Which would you recommend for me? Or anyone else who has actually bought one? Thanks to Chris for all the great reviews!!
Oh I seems I accidently left that one. But it brakes really well before the other pillar in my test so above average brakes and yes it did set the dogs off!
@@N0N0111 Sorry abouit that it wasn't intentionally left out I messed up the edit. But I can confirm that it breaks better than more as as expected for Tektro brand of brakes it's very good.
@@MrManningata Hi. Ebikes don't have regenerative braking. It's technically possible to have it, like on electric forklift trucks, but with the relatively light weight of an Ebike it would introduce too much drag on the motor for unassisted pedalling, and your legs wouldn't appreciate it 🙂
Both are good it depends on your budget if you wan the self locking and GPS the Lemmo has it. But this bike for around 500 euros less covers all bases and yes that seat post is really great to have.
@@Techtablets Many prefer mid-drive, but can you comment from your experience on the drives systems? Since you are riding them all. I thought a rear drive retains more of that original bicycle feeling.
The more expensive the models of these non mainstream brands become, the less plausible they are because of the lack of support & warranty, one would get from the known brands at their local bike shop. Best to stick with the budget end below E1000/$1000/£1000 I'd have thought.
Very true that's what made them attractive the lower pricing but then they didn't have the know brand components which in the end also hurts them. I think if it was priced a little lower they should hit that sweet spot of price and then quality. I'm sure many would pay a little more for Samsung cell batteries than non branded ones. So goes for the motor etc. As for support I've not had to test them out yet, but you get the standard 12 months for frame and then it varies for the parts.
@@Techtablets Warranty means nothing though, if there's no support within a reasonable distance from the customer. They simply don't have the service network to fix these things, instead they rely on customers fitting the parts themselves, as most local bike shops won't touch them...not good.
Bike shops here will, expect the motors or controllers of these "other" brand ebikes. But typical stuff like gears and brakes etc they do. But less a local warranty support and service center is a must.
It's really the only thing I don't like about it being like a CVT hub gearbox. Would be nice to hold it in first gear or any gear. Manual control is always good to have.
