ENNEAGRAM TYPE 9 "WINGS" | 9w8 & 9w1 | The Dreamer & The Comfort-Seeker 

it took me FOREVER to find my type... wasn’t shocked when i finally figured out i was a 9😂 super fitting with my indecisiveness

9w1 here! I definitely retreat in conflict because I don’t want to hurt others. But when I hit my limit and that 8 wing pops out .... oh boy! It’s like a volcano erupting and every judgmental thought comes out. 🌋

I listen to Suzanne Stabile’s podcast and she was saying that a 9 can tap into both of their wings their entire life. She also said they are the only number who can do that. I found that pretty interesting and accurate for me. So maybe that’s why you are having such a difficult time figuring out your number.

There is just not a lot of information out there on 9w8s, so here is an insight from my own experience, hoping it makes sense to others. One of the characteristics of a Type 9 is that they often had a domineering or unpredictable parent that they had to spend a lot of energy on trying to please. That is definitely true for me. But for me, when I was away from that parent and found something that I was good at, I took on a more confident attitude, and so the Type 8 wing came out. For me, this was academics; in class, I was confident, competitive, etc., very different from my personality elsewhere. But I could see for others this might be something else, like sports. So at least for me, being a 9w8 has meant that the Type 9 is my dominant way of facing the world, but there are certain areas of my life where I am more of an 8. But on the other hand, I also think one of the potential characteristics of a 9w8 is they give and give and give until finally they just blow up in order to protect themselves. I like Tom LaHue's description of the 9w8 as a Referee: we don't really show up to play, but when we think things have gone too far, we blow the whistle! That is definitely true for me, especially in my personal life. But that was a weird paradox I had noticed about myself way before I had ever heard of the Enneagram, that most of the time I am really chill and laid back, but then I can just really lose my temper.

Thanks for explaining!! I am definitely a 9 but I can also have a temper so the 9w8 makes sense to me. I can take a lot but then I'll eventually explode but calm back down super fast. I also relate to the 1 wing because I can be a perfectionist and withdraw into myself when I'm upset or anxious. I find the enneagrams to be so interesting!

I‘m definitely a 9w1. Most people would assume that I‘m an extrovert, since I really enjoy myself in the company of others, but I really need that time for myself. I can also be extremely perfectionistic and meticulous sometimes, not to mention my strong idealism. And I am certainly not the type to explode when I reach my limit, but I rather implode. No one has ever seen me really angry. To be honest I would like to explode sometimes, but real anger is the only emotion that‘s really hard for me to express.

Hi guys! Can anyone relate to me? Figuring out your wing can be a process LOL!

Makes so much more sense than only having one wing!

Thank you for this. I think I'm a 9w8 because I am expressive and emotional. I do sometimes get overwhelmed emotionally and explode. I was originally typed as a 4

Ooh girl. I relate so hard!!! I'm a 9w8. Thank you for this.

I am a 9 but both wings of 1 and 8 are relatable to me. Still learning about all of this. My oldest has always said that I am passive aggressive, guess he’s right. But I don’t think I am wishy washy.

As a 9 I really tend to admire 3s, probably because it’s the type 9s “growth point” or whatever. I wish I had their charm and motivation. They’re usually really funny and good looking.

I think I’m a 9! I really thought I was a 7, because I love new things, having fun and having freedom and flexibility, but I’m now thinking it’s 9!

This was great! I’m an ISFP 9w8, and your explanation really solidified my belief that I’m a 9w8. Ive thought perhaps I’m a 6w7, but I don’t crave security. Your description of seeming like a 7 at times really resonated with me and helped me come to this conclusion. Thanks!

This is so helpful. I have struggled for a long time trying to determine my type. At this point I’m seeing the clarity of the type nine. Particularly what you said about 9 wing 8.

You have beautiful eyes!! I’m a type 9 but just learning about the wings and types! Thanks for sharing!

I finally got it! I'm a 9w1 and self-pres, so maybe that's why I can see the 8 wing sometimes, thank you!

Thanks for sharing this! I do think it helps to have an Enneagram Coach work through this with you because you can feel confused without that added guidance.

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Awesome video! ISTP 9w8 female here. I was having hell trying to figure out what my enneagram type was for 5 months and I figured out I was 9w8. I do stand up for someone when they’re in an argument but, it drains me quickly though. If I do get into an argument, I explode and only get angry for like 2 minutes and I’m back to normal. It’s like the argument never existed lol. Anyways, your video was great and it explained the basics of how the enneagram type 9 works. You’ll get a trillion subscribers before ya know it!

Self-preservation 9 here. Thank you for making the video, I've been struggling with figuring out my wings after finally settling on the Type Nine and this helped a lot :3

I am a type 9 and can see both wings in myself but definitely more a wing 1 PS I miss seeing you on IG .. finally got rid of my social media accounts but SO PEACEFUL lol

I am a 9w1 (probably), but I wish to be 9w8, because I need more assertiveness in my life, and having a 1 wing is annoying because I do tend to be very judgmental especially about myself and many things I do. But I also am not completely sure because I am definitely not a perfectionist in ANY way in the physical reality. I am reallyyyyyy messy and disorganized most of the time hahaha. anyways.. thanks for the video!:)

Your devour behind me reminds me more 1 than 8. Eights are more big and bold, like my mother. She slept in a king sized bed by herself! Hahaha. Your devour looks perfect and conservative with aesthetically pretty objects! 💜🧡 I feel I am between you and my mother in my decor! I love Spring!

Good video! I'm pretty certain I'm a 9w8- but us 9's are so nebulous I can't 100% say for sure lol. I prefer peace to conflict but I won't tolerate the abuse of children or vulnerable people (8 protectiveness) and if you push me too far or attack my loved ones I can become very assertive and strong willed. I have faced down my bosses at work before, and won. I do have a temper and I don't repress it like the 1 wing does. Peace and diplomacy are ALWAYS preferable though. Always. I'm a good mediator and I like bridging the gap between conflicted people. I find solace in nature. Walking/hiking or just swinging in a hammock, looking at the vast starry sky or the magic of the sunset is what brings me joy. The ocean too. I also love to learn and gain knowledge (at one point I thought I might be a 5w4) but the problem is I can happily sit and research mythology, fantasy novels, other cultures, psychology, Enneagram etc all day and not actually DO anything. Typical 9 procrastination. On the other hand I think it saves us from the rat-race. I look at all the workaholics of the world and wonder what it's all worth in the end. Other types never stop to appreciate what they have or what's around them- always seeking more "stuff" and more external validation. I don't need that. I do struggle with taking initiate and self-starting though, but if an external deadline is set for me I will work to it with incredible determination and get it done- which is probably the 8 wing. I've got a dry/sarcastic sense of humour which could be the 8 wing or maybe a bit of the 1 wing coming through idk. I do think the 8 adds passion though, some fire behind the eyes, which I love when it flares up, but my natural state is the neutral calmness of the 9. Anyway thanks for the video. I'm interested to see if you or any other 9's related to this.

Watched this whole thing and I still can't decide, lol I have so many qualities of both I don't like conflict at all with people I don't care about, I couldn't care less to try to change their mind or to show them what I believe to be true. But with people, I care about I will not back down when questioned about a belief or idea I will meet them head-on and discuss it for hours until we decide to disagree. I also am not one to pick a fight if someone is trying to start something with me but its the opposite for a friend or partner I will stand up for them and will not back down. Most of the time I do go with the flow and people see me as laid back but as soon as a core value is threatened or you try to hurt someone I love I get angry and will push back. When in a large group of people like work I take the time to study the room and evaluate who can be trusted and who I can never be truly open with, I give my all to the people I have in my circle but those outside of it I am friendly but they never get my true self. I will say though I will speak out for strangers if I feel like there is an injustice or people are being mistreated by those in authority. Help lol

This is so me!!! Def have a temper which I think can be confusing to my kids bc I’m super chill until I’m not...ty!!!

This is AMAZING!!! I was very surprised when I did the enneagram test last week and discovered I’m a 9! The wings had me confused… same problem about wondering which one is more like me, but I’m sure I’m a Wing 1. Seeing them wings as salt and pepper kinda makes more sense too 😊

Thank you for explaining this so well! I was mistyping and struggling to understand what I was.. and hearing you explain it as salt & pepper and describing how you're different in your various areas of life (work, home, relationships). I feel so seen!

Now this makes so much sense.

Oh my!... I am sensing the 'UG' / exposure part of discovering one's real type and wing. 😲 I must be a 9 w 1 and a self- pres type. (Let me live peacefully as kinda a hermit as a 9 ...but I also want " justice and righteousness to flow down like a mighty river" as a 1 ...Doing what is right in God's sight. ) Seems a bit conflicting to me, but that is my inner life and motive spot on.

thank u so much ! this video literally helped me figured my wing. I actually just discover my enneagram type and Im a type nine. Im more introverted and quiet when Im upset and its more the type 9w1 wing as you said in this video. thank you so much this video is very very helpful. 💖💖💖

Well, w/1 helped me understand why there are times I can be somewhat introverted.

That's what I've always wondered about myself. Im very much a 9w1 at work. But When answering the enneagram test I always ask myself if it's my behavior at work or at home cuz sometimes who i am at work and who i am at home are polarizing.

Can relate. I am protective but introverted. I hate being controlled and can explode when I feel that happening. I like harmony but in stress I can be a right old perfectionistic grump. I love comfort as well. Can't beleive I thought I was a 4 broody is not in my vocab. Im an infp so that is where the I am a type 4 came from. I laughed when I heard the people think you are a 7 I have been described as a slower moving, quiter enfp basicaly the same thing.

Thanks for these videos Hillary! We’re pretty sure at this point that my partner is a 9w1. It has definitely been harder for him to figure out his type than it was for me to figure out mine. However, we both found it super easy to figure out our wings. He was for a while trying to figure out if he was a 1w9 or a 9w1, but settled on the 9w1. His 8 side only shows when he has been pushed way too far, and I can count the times I’ve seen it on one hand, and we’ve been together for almost 12 years.

I am definitely a 9w1, and one of the most slothy humans I know

I'm a 9w1. I think I'm a 9 socially, but a 1 professionally.

I’m definitely a 9 w8! Thank you this helped me.

I am most definitely a 9w1! This video was super helpful in understanding

It's so hard for me to figure out my wing. I have to say, growing up, I was definitely a wing 1, my 1 mom definitely influenced that. But since I got married nearly 10 years ago I think I've been slowly transitioning to wing 8 with my 8 husband. So now I'm in this weird mixed middle ground. I quickly go to anger at times but it doesn't go away quickly because I try to reign it in and it just festers inside. I really rely on comfort. But I am still very reserved, although I'm slowly becoming a little less so.

Most definitely 9w1

So I’ve struggled with knowing my wing so much! I think I have shifted wings, possibly. I have always been aware that I had anger inside, even as a child (if my pantyhose were twisted on the way to church ect) I would be sooooo mad and feel like there was absolutely no way out of my situation and no one could help me. I didnt want to be uncomfortable, so I would just have a temper tantrum (mostly inside but passively letting others know it was happening)because I didnt have the patience to let someone help me. As I have gotten older and having been married to an 8 for almost 19 years, I have become more of an 8 wing because I needed to learn how to Stand up for myself and not get bombarded by my 8 husband, 7 w/8 wing son and 3 son 😂 I definitely have seen my temper shining a lot! But it is usually because I am mad that there is conflict happening, and I am trying to stop it from happening. For example- if my two sons were fighting about something I would have a flash of anger because I wouldn’t want it to be happening. So yup. Am I alone in this 9’s? Anyone else as a 9 actually aware of their anger? Am I a even nine now lol!??? 😂

This was very helpful. I have had such a hard time finding my wing and it started making me question my number.

I'm 9w8 and proud of it 😊

Thru your explanation looks like I’m a 9w1. Are the any 9w1 who are INTPS? How’s life if u exsist

Thank you so much for this! I always test as a 6 because I do struggle with anxiety in some areas of my life, but I relate heavily to both descriptions of 6 and 9 so I’ve really been struggling with my true type and which was my stress/security. But I feel the core longing and fear of 9 most strongly, so I figured maybe I was a 9 who has just been living in stress for a long time (I have 2 small kids sooo lol) so that I’ve just internalized some of those 6 tendencies. I relate more to 9w1 overall but I do have a temper and can be intense occasionally, so I thought I couldn’t truly be a 9 since they’re so peaceful. But drawing from the 8 wing in some situations makes so much sense now! I occasionally explode and feel much better with the anger out, but then immediately I feel so guilty about offending whoever was in my path, so I feel like maybe that’s my 1 wing coming back, lol.

I have been so confused about my type, but I know now, that I am a 9w1

Social Nines are known to look like Sevens! I care about Fairness and Justice, but I have moment who values vengeance in prison for those who violated children in violent ways. Ones, like Eights, will stand up for others. And they both can control boundaries... See Dr Phil (8) and Judge Judy (1).

Ok so I’m definitely a 9w1 😳 got it, thanks haha.

Hmmm... thought I was a 9w1. Based on this video I am going to have to do a deeper dive.

THANK YOU I NEEDED THIS. 9w8 here

Now that I've learned about "EIPs" it really helped me understand why i kept going back and forth on wings and paths. What do you think?

Those eyes!

Great information! Thank you for sharing.

Thanks for the video! I'm a pastor and when I first took the quiz, I was confident that I was a 7. It seemed so easy (without having read anything or talked to anyone about it) but as time when on, my number seemed more elusive. I know I'm not an 8 because I work with 8's and can appreciate them when most people find them abrasive or intimidating. That said, What are your tips for misdiagnosed 7's who think they are nines but still are struggling? Is that the best indicator that you are a 9?!

Praise God I’m not alone! Watching this video helped me tremendously. I’m a 9 but struggle to know my wing. I can relate with both, but after watching this video I own know I’m more of a wing 8. Subtypes? Forget about it! LOL! The only thing I’m sure of is that I’m not a self pres. leaning more to social, but still unsure. I’m glad I found someone who is a type 9 teacher. Definitely liking and subscribing! Thanks for the video. What about astrology? It has to play a roll in the enneagram. For example, I find it hard to find a a Scorpio test as a type 2. I would think they would be a type 8. I’m definitely a 9, and a Taurus.

Thanks of your explanation like me I am confuse of my wing 8 or 1, I know wing 8 and 1 mix like salt and pepper.

i can’t figure out if i’m a 9 or a 5

This really helped, thanks! Pretty sure now I'm a 9w8.

Okay so I'm a 9, but every time I've taken the Enneagram test I've scored the lowest in 1 & 8 so would I not have a wing?

This was so interesting!! I just found your channel, I really wanted to dive into enneagram more just to understand myself a bit better since, as a nine, I find that to be a bit hard sometimes!! I am a 9 with an 8 wing as well, but sometimes, especially while working I tend to be a bit more wing 1. Totally related with this, thank you so much!

Sounds like I might be 9w1. Very introverted and I don’t really like that about me. There seems to be a lot of traits that I don’t like. So maybe that’s my next question…..How? Perhaps I need to check out your enneagram and coaching page?

Definitely a 9/1

Still can't decide if I'm wing 1 or 8. On the positive sides, I seem more like a 1 because I'm quiet and reserved and organized (mostly). But when I freak out, I definitely show that wing 8 thing where I go crazy for a minute and then I'm back to being fine. I can be judgmental in my head and a perfectionist (1). In the worst time of my life, I was seeking revenge for a good 7 months (sounds 8 to me!). So who knows I guess...

The most important question is, where did you get your sweatshirt and how can i get one?

AAA HELP well today I made the enneagram test and the result was 9w8, I saw myself but I wasn't too convinced, I did other tests and I came out as 7, on another as 2, I have jumps from introvert to extrovert and I I excluded the 7 due to the fact that I saw it too extroverted for relating it to me, even if some traits coincide :'0 the 2 is also there but I am not convinced I miss it too much, perhaps due to the fact that it seems to focus too much on someone else, it seems almost obsessive, and AHAHA, well I was a long time ago, but now, I don't think so :d. So I see myself more like a 9 tipe but due to the fact that I am both introverted and extroverted I don't recognize my wing :'D

Enfp here who is also a type 9!!!

I feel like I’m a 9 but also relate to a 7. Is that strange?

Do you think people in the instinctual triad have larger bodies? I've noticed that they are usually bigger humans, except ones. Ones seem to be smaller.

I'm an INFP... Is it possible that I can be 9w8? Cause I don't feel like 9w1... Also I scored least in 1, highest in 9 and second highest in 8... So does it means that I'm INFP with 9w8?

Hi, I'm a 9 and I think I switch between a 1 and 8 wing. I see both of them at different times. Does this make sense to you? Do other people find this to be true for them??

9w8 here. I'm confused as to why it's important to know my wing AND my subtype? (Actually, I'm having a hard time understanding why the wings are important at all!) It seems like one or the other would work and I don't hear anyone or read anything talking about wings and sub-types together. So, a 9 is a peacemaker, but a 9w1 is The Dreamer and a 9w8 is The Comfort Seeker. Are there also names for a SO, SX, or SP 9s, too?

INFJ type 9 (5 was rated second). Not sure of my wing yet but I've barely started the video lol. Edit: predominantly 9w1 occasionally 8

I'm a 9w1

Yeah I’m a quiet nine, I must be a 9w1

can an enneagram 9 have a wing of 3? I feel like that's what I am.

Just found ur channel! Love this. Im a 9 but Im so confused on which wing i am. Definitely more introverted but people love talking with me which i love too but i do not seek out social situations. I just want people to feel comfort and understood. I like to make sure everyone is ok. Im a massage therapist too which goes well with being a 9. I have ADHD but I wonder if its just cuz Im a 9? Anyways....I wish this video had helped me to see my wing more clearly but I think its just one of those things. I work with an 8 & 2 and I think it has been a great combo. Is that a good combo?

I'm 4w5 lol! It really does speak to me, but I can't tell if that's good or bad. Cause mainly the cons speak to me. ・-・ I heard 4 is the rarest, bit what is the rarest counting the wings. I want to know which is really the rarest cause I'm bored. (I really do sound like a 4 right now haha)

YOUR. EYES. THOUGH!!! 😍

I really hope I’m a nine. I feel like a 9,1,3,4,5,6, and 7 like how???

Hii!! If I’m ENFJ I can be a 9w1?? Even tho I’m kinda extroverted??

Why this 'music'?

I am a type nine, but the both wings dont really describe me..... lol in real life... I'm really shy, but I'm not critical... i enjoy everything😄

I'm 9w1 wing

My hubby is 9w8 as well my dad🤭bizarre 😅 Thanks 🙏 ps. What is your MBTI type? Just curious 😁

9 & 1 wing lol. Ugh too lol

im a 9w1

I’m a 9w8. Not a wing 1. My mom is a 9w1.

I struggled a lot with this video. I wanted to just get to the point, but the whole time was just numbers soup and I struggled to tune in when the topic was ACTUALLY about 9s and not 7s and subtypes and 3s...I guess this content just wasn't for me.

Im a 9 and have no idea whats my wing lol

Haha both wings for me is that possible 😂

i feel like all of the types are outright bad

Why u talking about u?