The influence from outside the country is partly the reason why we are where we are. I say it's time for independent candidates to show themselves. Political parties are rubbish
@@giselajoone9913 Partly to blame, not entirely. They will have no influence if we had leaders with integrity and a civil society willing to hold their leader accountable.
⚠️ WARNING: we will not have another election. Anarchy will take hold, the people are poor hungry, jobless and desperate. South Africa will become the next Sri Lanka, after this. A new political system will arise, Democracy has failed us, it cannot be the harbinger of terrorists in power, nor can it sustain a vast cultural and racial diversity as in South Africa. The good will that white South Africans had, will be the end once the radicals kills thousands openly on the streets of Jo’burg. Then the people will finally realize who and what the ANC and EFF truly are, murmurous thief’s, lying scumbags. Remember all the communication, dry foods that was stolen in Natal? Enough to feed a communist army. South Africas union will fall, and digress into smaller cultural and racial enclaves. Stop placing your trust in people, and prepare yourself for the violence mentally, and start putting your trust in God the almighty, to protect us for what is too come. We will not see another General Election!
we should be a republic with each province/state having their own state laws and leaders... under federal law. It makes sense along with independent cadnidates.
AGREE WITH YOU. RAMAPOSA MUST GO TO. HE NEVER OPENS UP WITH PRAYERS NEVER TALKS ABOUT OUR GREAT GOD AND DOSE NOT APPRECIATE OUR BEATIFULL S.A. LOOK OUR POTHOLES LOOK AT THE IMMUGRANTS TOWNSHIPS ITS RUBBISH PAPER'S PLASTICS ALL LAYING ON A DUMB. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY BUT RAMAPOSA LET THE IMMIGRANTS IN TO MESS UP OUR LAND. HE LET CRIME IN TO OU LAND NOW THERE IS NO JOBS FOR OUR BORN S.A PEOPLE . RAMAPOSA AND ANC IS JUST LOOKING IN OUR S.A. PEOPLES EYES AND JUST SEES DOLLARS IN EVERY S.A. PEOPLES EYES. THY ALL AFTER THE MONEY AND SO ARE SOME OF THE PARLEMENTS PEOPLE TO. WE S.A. PEOPLE KNOW WE ARE NOTHING WITHOUT OUR GREATEST GREATEST GOD. S.A. LETS ALWAYS STAY IN PRAYERS AND ALWAYS HAVE FAITH IN OUR GREAT GOD. GOD BLESS S.A.
Black South Africans really need to understand the game of politics. As black South Africans we need to start funding our politicians otherwise they will keep representing the interest of those who fund them
How will black people fund political parties when they barely have food and shelter? Funders of political parties are people who have money to spare for the use of protecting their interests.
Yes true and we have little time to a lot.mr Rob Hersov needs to make it possible for people to contact him if he wants to be a leader of this cou ntry which is not the case
I disagree look at who he is friends with they were responsible for all the oppressive systems. Why DA and ActionSA? They are in bed with unelected international terrorist organization UN agenda2030 SDG's
Absolutely brilliant interview - Both Rob and Solly have my vote for a brighter, more investable and sustainable South Africa - now is the time for change and people like Rob and Solly to lead with power , purpose and panache - I am excited to see the change coming in 2024 !!! Proudly South African as we unite together for all South Africans and the future of this amazing county we call home !!!
It is quite obvious to the people in the poor neighborhoods (and they are well aware), that there is forces behind the scenes in all of these major parties that is not really working and having the interest of their wellbeing at heart. They all there just to serve their own interest. Crime will thrive in these poor neighborhoods because keeping them drugged and their minds befogged and keep them in a state of fear of gangs that is raging havoc amongst them, suits these leaders well to stay in goverment. Subject the masses to fear and you'll stay in power. And here the race card, the handouts of pittance etc is a classical example. God save us the underdogs in this beautiful country.
A very interesting and informative discussion. Thank you. One thing for sure is that there are plenty of competent people who can be placed into Managerial posts to run this country. Maybe not the best of the best and from different parties but 100 % more capable honest and reliable than what we have currently. In actual fact with the current supposedly "Ministers" it would not be hard to replace the current Mafia at all. Coalition between the different parties to oust the current circus is an absolute must.
Solly I adore your frankness and vision about our country, I indeed agree with your proposition for opposition parties to form a framework before 2024 and push the agenda to convince public. I like the way you politely directed Rob on his Tony Leon’s like mindedness. DA would be better without Zille she is toxic and racist.
Greetings Amazing ,save South Africa indeed ,Enough is Enough , Durban used to be beautiful as port and tourism amongst other provimces God Almighty Save this Beautiful Country and All of the Citizens .
Brilliant interview. Agree that there needs to be a UNITED front from all opposition parties to create ONE party and ONE brand before the elections, with a Manifesto and names of talented, qualified, respectful, honest people who take responsibility and accountability & accept the role of running South Africa, for South Africans.
We need direct elections. We need to take responsibility for our country, by electing our leaders directly and holding them accountable. No politician will save us. The party system in itself is corrupt.
I do not agree with the view that "Mbeki - great job". A lot of the issues we sit with today are as a result of what his government did, and the government before him. Take illegal immigration - those two governments destroyed our borders. Allowed the crisis in Zim to happen. Their mining policy was a disaster, leading to joblessness and eventually the ZamaZama crisis we sit with today. Zuma and Cyril was useless, but dont forget the mistakes that happened before them. Also, Mbeki's economic "success" was partly as a result of global economic growth and the commodity boom which supported our economy greatly, and because of the sanctions being lifted in the years leading up to this. But there are a lot of economic stats that went south in this time. Also recall that in 1998 the decision was made to not privatize Eskom, and then to scrap its capex program, including the pebble bed nuclear program. These decisions were taken by the Mandela and Mbeki governments.
Mandela And Mbeki and all who followed after them were and still all are puppets of the Clause Shawb, World Economic forum , group who placed all these puppets in , As they have done in other countries that all going the same way as South Africa. Its the same pattern, destroy the borders and farmers and food .Destroy the infrastructure . We were the forerunners for the world for The New World Order to come in .. People must lift up your heads and see who these So called puppet Leaders take their orders from And The Murdochs And Rupert Families are The head of the NWO in South Africa .
If you are arguing against perfection, then you will always win. You can always find bad things or choices made by even the best leaders (Mbeki's HIV/AIDS drama is one). However, the truth is Thabo's period was the best time in South Africa's history. Pretty much all the metrics we care about were reflecting it (freedom, Ease of doing business, crime, GDP, debt levels, unemployment, etc). The economy was growing, creating 500k jobs a year (nowadays it takes 7 years to create 300k jobs). No one is able to take advantage of a commodity boom without the right systems and people in place, otherwise, commodity-rich countries like DRC and Zimbabwe would have become heaven on Earth and enjoyed the same massive growth, development, and changes during that time also. They didn't. Honestly, if we pin Mbeki's success to the commodity boom, then no country on earth can be said to do well. We can always pin their success to a steel boom or technology boom or oil boom or X-boom. Basically, nothing to do with governance and economic choices. It's all just boom based. Policies and leaders don't matter.
@@gopolanglekoto Agreed, we recently had another commodity boom during which SA continued sliding downwards, and from 2009 - 2019 the world went through a period of fast, uninterrupted global economic growth which South Africa missed out on. The Mbeki years were the best we had, while the Zuma years killed us
@@ryanstephen120 100%. The massive growth the world saw from 09 to 19 prove this point about booms. The world economy can boom to the Moon or Pluto, but without the right people and systems in place, it will not translate into growth and success domestically. Mbeki and his team deserve flowers from us. Not a perfect team, but good enough team to move the needle.
Great interview but please avoid the constant change of screens, I find it destructive and pointless. Would be far better to stick to yourself and Rob permanently on screen instead of the constant changing.
The leaders of the opposition parties should put their differences aside and start acting out of a common goal of saving South Africa .The problem is still if the ANC will accept a loss. The other big problem is the resistance in Natal that we are seeing. I think we are going to see a a border post on the Natal border very soon.
I agree with you Solly about the need for a new brand. Despite how well they do the DA just has too many negative connotations for black people and thats just the way it is. If all those very capable people seriously put their minds to it surely it could be done.
Leave identity politics alone! If the DA get things done put them in powers. Your black skin has nothing to do will good service and good governance. If they try to opress us then it's war they know we have the numbers to win so they wouldn't try shit.
My point exactly. The DA is like a dwarf that will always stay stunted in it’s growth and only grow in one area of it’s body parts which is in the Western Cape. This party is more likely to die out than to thrive. Remember this is Africa and so far South Africa as a nation has played according to the play book.
Get rid of all politicians and let the people of each town or city to elect competent people to do the job. If they don't do the job fire them. NO PARTY POLITICS
Excellent conversation, yes to seeing our sun again, yes to creating a list of talented candidates start a movement away from the superlatives and past crutches.
This interview is a true reflection of who owns South Africa. Rob can't help but give a glimpse of the level of capture that our state is in, and white monopoly capital. South Africa is doesn't belong to your average South African, but belongs to investors and outsiders with business interest in the country and my suspicion is Rob himself is one of the shareholders...
We live in a democratic county people have every right to vote who ever they like. Some vote EFF and ANC and some vote DA and FF and so on. We may not agree with their choices but let us respect it.
BRILLIANT discussiob! Let's have more of that kind of discussion and get rid of the rubbish! However we need action as well as talk SO MANY PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY IN AWARE of the enormity of corruption within the country in almost everything Bizarre I know!!! Our wonderful country is being destroyed before our very eyes because we are mostly asleep!!!! PLEASE CARRY ON WITH YOUR GREAT EFFORTS! God Bless you both
Rob, I Iost faith in you when you kept on name dropping karou charou. If you think he's the best the Indian community can offer, you are very sadly mistaken. Karou Charou is a clown at best and I'm being kind in my description. Extend your search, research principled people such as Kanthan Pillay etc and you will easily find the 100 leaders necessary, to lead our country out of the darkness or finds itself in.
Government partnered with the private sector to collectively enter into bilateral trade agreements with other countries as early as the 90s. If that doesn't set the perfect foundation for a few elites to capture the state then I don't know anymore.
Solly, I like your channel, more especially when you call educated people of this country. We are a disappointed group. We were hated to the core and still are , by the ANC government. Cadre deployment is destroying government. There is nobody to deliver. I watched government deteriorating until I resigned, seeing that I was closed in all respects, educated and smart in my area as I am in my field of study ( Maritime) BA, BProc, LLB, Masters Environment, Masters Maritime Studies, Dip Marine Surveys, Dip yachts & Small crafts, Dip Legislative Drafting and Modules in Total Quality Management ( TCM) . Guess what, I found myself managed by a Matriculant and later an Indian from Mauritius. My sin was closing corruption. I told them from day 1 that I am not employed to enrich anybody. I have a lot to say.
Although I share in the practical views, I am not very enthusiastic about the future. This country still has a long way to rock bottom before the electorate will learn. If they will learn.
Ok, finally done watching the interview. These 2 individuals are good and cordial speakers, BUT it's either they are not critical thinkers or they do not (deliberately) encourage or attract a critical thinking audience. They need to highlight that THIS current system is broken and that no alternative that enjoys the privileges of this current system is a solution. We need electoral and political system change, not mere face or allegiance modifications.
Ive been part of the DA for many years even held branch positions. The DA is the best but they have a branding problem. They need to rebrand and the only way to legitimately do that is to merge with other parties and create a new combine party.
Interesting and frank discussion. The only hope for SA is that a strong and importantly cooperative coalition form to topple the ghastly incapable ANC off it's foundations. There is no excuse for voters continue blindly supporting the ANC. SA cannot afford a continuation of rule by a class of political 'royalty' based on blind loyalty. There are pragmatic steps that must be taken for SA recover from two decades of political mismanagement. The steps that must be taken require fundamental policy shifts that the ANC refused to consider as follows: 1) placing country before party; 2) revising BEE policy; 3) removing state involvement in business - Denel, SAA, ACSA, Alexkor, Armscor, etc; 4) reducing the size of government considerably; 5) curtailing illegal immigration.
The ANC has forgotten the power of the people they used to chant when they were fighting apartheid. That power voted them into parliament and the same power can depose them if they are not careful. We are tired of corruption that has been made to look normal, and the rejection of ANC campaigners in certain areas of the country is testament to that. People have had enough. We once loved and cherised the ANC as the voice of the oppressed, now some people dont even want to be associated with it else they themselves will be seen as supporting corruption. Mention ANC the only thing that comes to mind is CORRUPTION and nothing else. Enough is enough. South Africans do not tolerate nonsense for a long time. Some of our relatives died fighting for freedom and the very ANC that's meant to give us a better life has become corrupt to the core and has caused a lot of suffering to the very people they claim to represent. We want change for the better.
If only I could get Rob to be my spokesperson. Excellent orator but don't agree with his views about the DA solely because it changed names not the mandate.
Good discussion Solly but somehow flawed! Dislodging the ANC from power is just a pipedream considering its roots within most of South African communities. The best option is to work with all those ANC cadres who have been marginalised by the present ANC leadership. That is my opinion.
When you mention those ANC cadres who have been marginalised by the present ANC leadership, are you speaking of the RET faction? I hope not, because if those guys take power then we all might as well go live in Zimbabwe. Do whatever it takes to make sure your children still have a chance and a future. If you can't immigrate, then vote for the strongest opposition. It's better to choose the lesser of two evils then to allow the greater evil to run rampant unopposed
@@ryanstephen120 Rob ,they always said that the ANC is a broad church meaning that within this movement there are people with different ideas and a variety of different political persuasions and for your information these comrades are just ignored by the present leadership because this leadership is captured by greed and they want to work and enrich themselves at the expense of the larger ANC membership. I have been with the ANC - in exile and in the camps for over 46 years and the ANC was always against corruption within its ranks! By then the ANC was a principled organisation, clear with its mission of liberating the people of South Africa, black and white. So I am still convinced that there is no other credible Party and or Organisation that can bring a difference to our political situation here in Mzansi except the ANC . The present ANC leadership is misguided and they flock together like sheep headed to the slaughter house! Very sad indeed!
Great interview.....Rob anytime i can listen to his Wisdom for like forever....But we can talk all we want South Africans especially BLACK PEOPLE all they need is non - racial South Africa and equal opportunities and be treated like HUMANS..
