Entire TRAIN CARS full of WINE? | Railroad 101 

Definitely excited about seeing this special car, considering I’ve worked in the industry, so can talk about bulk wine transport without sounding like I’m bloviating lol. Wine tankers are definitely still in use for some of the big time bull wineries, although most of the bulk wine is usually transported in 6600 gallon stainless tank trailers around (for the most part. (A large winery I worked for has four 60,100 gallon tanks outside just for receiving truck shipments of juice and fresh wine during crush season.) Sometimes bulk wine for international shipments is pumped into 4-500 gallon totes that are basically a giant “bag in box” bladder, and are stackable. Smaller domestic shipments are shipped in ≈400 gal stainless “porta tanks” that can be skidded off and used as their own storage or fermentation vessel. And to Leighton’s point, a vineyard I used to live/work at has a block of pre-prohibition dryfarmed vines whose fruit was picked into wood 50lb lug boxes and shipped via SP in unrefrigerated box cars back to Chicago for “home winemakers for ‘sacramental wines’.” Lol

I love the unique perspective: 'Brett's Eye View' that makes both Mark and Leighton look smaller than they actually are....

3:45 "Why would you even bother [putting wine in a tankcar]?" - Well, wine ot?

Now what you've gotta do is you got gotta an entire tank car worth of wine for the sequel video! lol, had no idea there were even wine cars. This video is great

As an ex-railroader and an ancient history junky: Wine was one of the first commodities transported in bulk over, for the time, long distances. Large ceramic jugs and amphorae were packed in racks on ships for transport across the Mediterranean and on the rivers and canals of the ancient world. Wine was most often consumed mixed with water as a purification agent as well as for it's nutritional value. And the ancients greatly valued some of it's other effects as well. Olive oil was another bulk commodity from ancient times. As a clerk for the B&O, 1970-74 I would mark olive oil tankers as well as box cars with empty tins in and loaded tins out of the Pompeian Olive Oil facility in Baltimore, Md. The ancients were not that different than us.

"People love their grape juice" Greatest quote in the video

Not too surprised about this, Crown Royal used to ship from Canada into the US in tank cars as well, apparently the import taxes on bulk ethanol is cheaper than packaged whiskey.

In Europe the giant wooden wine barrels were loadet on flatcars and later on they were rebuilt as Boxcars, because of people making holes in the barrels to steal the wine,

We've got milk tanks in DV. Now we need wine tanks.

Gives a whole new meaning to the Napa Valley Wine Train

I was like why is the camera so high then I realized it was Brett holding the camera 😂

This is like the only thing the ES&DT would be hauling, and it would explain quite a lot about the safety record.

We have them here in South Africa too of course (ours are stainless steel interestingly). One story told to me by an Oomie (Uncle or rather Old Head for you the US 🙂), the one night they were shunting and one of the wagons were not in the clear. Well, as you can imagine, they managed to nick it and it tore open a gash in the side of the tank. He says the shunters went running for 2 liter Coke bottles to capture the "juice". He says that evening they were shunting very "nicely" and wagons were flying here, there and everywhere! No further incidents luckily!

Brett is really good at filming and Mark seems so confident and happy, this channel is awesome and is inspiring me to go in to railroading, so thank you for being you man! Also absolutely can't wait for century of steam.

Imagine just finding a train car full of wine in the middle of nowhere that’s been fermenting since 1942

Now your trip out there is technically a business expense 🤣🤣

We used to ship milk by the railcar too here in Northeast. I'm not sure how popular it was everywhere else but at one point we had what were essentially reefer cars with two steel tanks inside of the commodity area that went along the line and were loaded at designated collection points and were shipped to the nearby cities to be bottled and distributed.

I'm a truck driver and you might be surprised by how many tank trailers are full of alcohol, if you wanna find one keep an eye out for tankers marked "food grade" with flammable hazmat placards. They're super common in Kentucky and Tennessee.

Congrats, Leighton!!

You made it to PERRIS!!! That is my favorite railroad museum. I practically grew up there!!

I have heard of these before-- I designed and resin printed a model of my own 6-dome wine tank car last year. It was a fun project to research!

Wine tank cars with the 3/4 Idiots. Love it. Thanks fellas!! (and congrats Leighton!)

My first experience with a live steam locomotive was Knott’s Berry Farm and RGS 41. My first experience with trains at all, including riding on one, was at this very museum in 1994 or 1995, riding that very trolly you showed running at the start. I was only 3-4 years old, and I remember it crystal clear. I remember one of those wine cars was not as rusty as it is now (assuming it’s the same multi-dome tank car I remember / was in the poster my grandma bought back since it was the trolly running past there).

Ahhh! You were at my childhood museum. I volunteer there all the way to my senior year in high school my great friend/teacher name Ken Swartz volunteer at one of the barn, which is the grizzly Flats

Just found out Colorado railway museum is getting a major expansion within the coming years🎉

Now do one on the Napa Valley Wine Train, the OTHER train full of wine... Congrats Leighton!

Thats really neat! Also, Congrats Leighton!

Congrats again to Leighton btw. (I foresee our wedding reception probably needing two tank cars.)

@Hyce, between 1943 and 2005 the McWilliams Brothers wine company here in Australia used a fleet of eleven 10,500 gallon tank cars to move wine and fortified products like Tawny Port from its processing plant at Yenda (near Griffith) in the New South Wales Riverina to its bottling plant in Sydney. They had no obvious identifying heralds except the wagon code and a large Roman numeral I to XI. They were also always secured locked while in transit. Most alcohols and spirits transported by rail in Australia tended to be stored in wooden barrels or steel kegs and carried in open 4 wheel wagons. Stories abound of shunters and wagon-fitters who learned to identify the precious cargo in yards and steal small(ish) quantities by drilling thru wooden floor decking and barrel alike, draining a portion into their billycans and then stoppering both holes again. In the late 70s, my parents described the joy of a wine-bottling party they threw with some friends who lived on a farm in the tiny NSW wheatbelt town of Condobolin. The wine arrived in a plastic bulk container on one of those aforementioned 4-wheel open trucks, and they collected it themselves from the yard. They most vividly remember the red stains virgin wine tends to leave on one's face and lips. And that precious little wine actually got bottled in the end...

I feel like you guys should do an Episode at the Western Pacific Museum in Portola CA.

OK... that guy... he's pretty darn good. I want him to be a regular host here

My grand father started a winery here in north Georgia, bought all the equipment he needed did it for a couple years after that he got bored with it and then decided to use the space in the winery to build a HO model train layout.

The SCRM is fantastic! It's had several name changes over the years, and I had the nice privilege of living down the road from it for about 15 years. If you didn't, you all need to talk to Ken and the folks working in the Grizzly Flats barn! Super stoked to see a video! I saw the thumbnail and went "hey the placard on that car looks just like the ones at OERM. This is a real pleasant surprise, especially being so far from home right now. Thanks, y'all

How interesting. Speaking of alcohol, I remember Coors in Golden used to ship entire tank car loads (CORX) of Coors light out east for bottling. BNSF ran a daily Coors beer train between Denver and KC. But beer choo choo is no more sadly.

Loved the member video with some neat train facts attached to it! JK great video Hyce!

In Germany we had similar rolling stock but in they where wooden barrels wagons like the marklin 4432 model. So fare I know they where used to transport wine to large bottling plants or large distilleries.

Like the fact that 1/3 of the video is: Special thank to the ES&D employees!

the local, so called local, the only railway museum in belgium is pretty awesome. I did it a few times already and awesome, every time. well done with all the vids from past to now to future

You better have gotten a video of the things at the party!!! Awesome video!!

ES&D whiskey tanker when?

Hi Mark it’s the Three Quarter “Idiots” show on location! 😂 Learn something everyday, so fascinating! Glass lined no less like gigantic wine bottles. OMG! Thanks to Leighton for the fun history lesson. May I also extend congratulations and best wishes to Leighton and his fiancé Breia on their upcoming nuptials. As always Professor many thanks for another wonderful 101 video and cheers to you!

They also existed in italy. Some of the are also preserved.

I would love to see a video on auxiliary tenders.

Content like this is certainly nothing to wine about! Hope to see more videos about artifacts at this museum!

In toronto there’s a wooden tanker here for transporting vinegar :)

Giant Corkscrew 😂 Hyce, you need to bring back a couple of those tank cars to Golden, full of wine of course. Thanks for sharing. 👍🐾👍

One of the unique challenges of "tank car wines and spirits" is sometimes making sure they actually stay closed the whole trip. The FRA cited Jose Cuervo for improper tank securement one time on our line for 7 tank cars full of the stuff. Somewhere between Mexico and Ohio they had been *ahem* investigated by a curious pack of onlookers and several hundred gallons had magically "dissapeared" we were told.

SCRM SPOTTED SCRM SPOTTED

Makes sense. They have wine cars in Sid Meier's Railroad (game).

How common were glass linings of tank cars? Being able to open the top of one for a look (along with one heck of a flashlight) might be pretty cool.

I can just imagine a hilarious situation where a train consisting of wine tankers arrives at its destination. The yard crew check the wagons and find that they're all empty, only for the driver to come stumbling drunk out of his cab.

Never knew about a wine tank car

Hey, you guys -- are having too much fun !!

Chateau Martini was a label that added California wine to New York wine (yes, for real) for the east coast market.

Finally a drink video to go along with this madness of a channel

I volunteer at the railway museum neer me (Exporail) and would love to visit this place. Completely different environment.

Leighton dodged a bullet, but only narrowly!

Great vid, only watched a few seconds of it but so far it's hilarious

Another really good museum to check out here in California is either the Niles Canyon Railway where I'm at or the California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento

I was there a few months ago to see a switcher operating on the other side of the museum! I need to go back though, I wasn’t able to see the entire museum since I was on a bit of a time crunch.

2:37 Winery? What about a... wine-ing establishment?

Illinois railway museum is the largest east of the Mississippi River they’re operations are pretty large the have a five mile mainline you should check it out

That Museum is closer to where I grew up than where I live now!

Meanhwile here in Poland we had a guy transporting ethanol drink some vodka mixed aparently with said ethanol and derail the train. When they did a test on the guy he had 7 promils which is above the deadly dose.

Take a deep dive into the Rio grandes viniger car

A winery, don't you mean a Wining Establishment

You guys are stranded in the desert? The last thing you should be doing is filming a video! For real, this was such a fun look into some unique rolling stock. Thanks!

Hopefully there's gonna be more video's like this one, we'll ill pull the Cork on my bottle and drink to that! 😂

LAYTON! And yes we do like our wine and other exciting drinks here

3:03

Speaking of whiskey, i do believe that Crown Royal has a "whiskey train" in canada. Don't quote me

yay a 101 video

How much Wine do you want? A whole railcar please.

So basically if they is a commodity the railroad has moved at one point or another

Well, just put the Trix “Flying Scottsman” in the dirt right as the video finished. Forgot to align the loading back to the mainline

Hey congrats to Layton

Maybe a wine connoisseurs is here and can answer me this question. Wouldn't pumping the wine from it's wooden barrel into those tankers before bottling ruin it?

The Ward Kimball collection alone is worth the trip!

Another fun car were pickle cars...

Love the video, definitely wanna see more like this. Congrats Layton! Get someone else other than Brett behind the camera, we like to see all the three idiots.

I wish you could have opened thectop of one of them to take a look inside. I have never even considered a glass lining in a tank car.

Hey, you coming through vegas, i could take yall to a couple bars and model stores in town

Youre gonna need Lime Flavored wine even if its impossible. It must be done.

hope you went to the sacramento railroad mueseum best place ever specially with its cab forward

Hyce, i just wanted to let you know that i know you don’t want to play RRO again, but the K-27 has been added on the Beta Branch.

So when are we going to get a hyce kan COS play though 😊👍

Leads me to question... Beer as well? or only via reefer cars and kegs?

How does one "line" the inside of a train car with glass?

Hyce. I got married at my local train museum. It was amazing

HYCE man you have to check out these steam powered motorcycles , I saw these build about 6 months ago and maybe you could to really not that expensive or difficult to manufacture

Makes me question what the inside looks like, and what it's lined with? (yeah I have a lot of questions)

I see where Carl has been

Ok. NOW WHERE CAN I FIND ONE IN HO SCALE? I need to assemble an alcohol train.

I’m in church rn I’ll watch it in an hour.

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This is why I can't have nice things. Other than that great video mark hope to See more for many moons to come

i havent seen a comment yet, but congrats layton!

Also wish I knew you guys were down there it's like 5 miles from me

Hey hyce if that tanker was full of wine why don't you jump in there and drink it all up for the next few days 🤣🤣🤣🤣

How does one glass line a steel tank that flexes and gets dunked around without internal self destruction? I get this is the time before stainless, but still, ceramic glaze?