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Lol

Jenny’s always out

@@alankimachiwong6536 Bt she was right to be this time, and she read the signs quite well so didn't make an offer :o/...as usual :o)

He went in a meeting to negotiate and came out with a deal thus he still has a 100% success rate. Each "meeting" to pitch his business nets a deal.

That's it. That's the kinda comment we crave

The product was really really good with massive opportunities in the tech space. Peter didn't want to pull out. I am sure he would have pulled out if they were pitching for something else.

me too

@@AbhishekSanyalTGV no deal is worth having this sort of character involved.

@@mfoco1 I understand. Peter was weirded out for a while there. That's why he said he felt a bit strange. He was trying to think whether to abandon them or go ahead with the offer. They put him in a spot after what they did to Tej

They should have all pulled out, I've never seen so blatant racism in my life.

Amazingly arrogant.

Euan's face says it all at 3:11

Yeah, i would never invest in his company or his app. He will always be remembered by his ignorant behaviour. Glad his company earnt only £580.000 in 2018, where is his £18mln prediction? Haha. Total tool.

Short man syndrome...

N J Wishing the worst of others and celebrating in their failures only exposes weakness.

Rox Azolan what’s your mums name?

Rox Azolan GOOD! now get back to work

WildMan Frizzell thats is fantastic name sir

You are a legend

Poor old Ewan gets called urine

Shocking disrespect

Racist individuals

Bilal Sidik oh please not that old chestnut 🙄👎🏼

Tej got rich off daddy's business, he's hardly got experience in business development

Jenny Penny please don’t trivialise the matter of race

lewis morrison They knew Edgar they where doing.. The company is massive and worth MILLIONS!!

@Shaun Co different company

Shaun Co different company, they filed for bankruptcy few months back

@@lXlinfinitylXl can we get sources on this? I did some googling and found no information either way unless I"m looking in the wrong places.

Shaun Co they have definitely not increased their worth to £90 million in just a year...

Dominic Commisso think tej should give him some free vitimans That chap needs it

Not really, they wanted Peter or Deborah. So Tej offered them almost what they wanted.

I smell racism

i thought i missunderstand that, because my english isnt the best - i have rewind 3 times *and* look at the comment section. so yes *big oof*

@@maikbaumann1250 Congrats on your English. It looks great to me. :)

Yes they declined his offer in a pretty unprofessional manner.

@@Shivian124 And what about all the times the Dragon's have declined people in an unprofessional manner?

@vikvegas8593 oh whataboutism. People like you always find a way don't ya?

@@vikvegas8593 The entrepreneurs aren't in a position to be rude to the dragons since they're literally asking for their money and expertise to help their business

He made an offer, which was accepted on the exact terms he stated, and then broke the verbal contract. At that point, it does not matter how good the deal looks, Peter and Deborah should have immediately pulled out. If he'll behave that way on national TV, there's no telling what he'll do behind closed doors.

Jenny is the investor

@@A15Beats But she's usually out before ever getting the chance to be the "investor"...lol

Alastair Mercer ROFLOL good one

hahahahhahahaha

@RJ k you must be fun at parties.

Clearly very arrogant...but arrogance can go a long way in business

@@tosspot1305 arrogance will only lead to your downfall. It inspires ignorance and bad rep. What you want is confidence.

@@tosspot1305 Confidence. Arrogance is the worst thing for business. Notice how all the arrogant people always shoot themselves in the foot and don't get a deal? Confidence is not the same as arrogance. Nobody wants arrogance

@@tosspot1305 Arrogance isn't bad. The correct term you're thinking of his 'hubris'.

@@cybersechs1368 Arrogance and hubris are largely the same thing and both bad. I can't believe some people still struggle with such simple things.

He's the best dragon so he gets to do that

I wish he had bumped up the percentage for them being so disrespectful.

@@dickvandraevan1675to be fair if I had a business, I’d want nobody else other than Peter in on it

@@dxncerr1233 Even if it was Vitamins, or baby products?

Fr tho like 'I have more potential so I'm offering all thr money for 25% of yr business (10 times more than u asked for)

He got four offers. Aim for the stars, you might reach the moon.

that shows poor decision making for that reason i m out

Yeh but Jenny is so fit... seriously.

Wdym fit with the double chin 😭​@@schwantzrossi1266

:D

Looooool

Haha. Take your supplements Tej.

*dismissing Touker to his office space in London

That was nothing funny. In fact, i wouldnt want to invest any penny in this guy's company or his app.

@fyoukim12 the guy is bit weird looking himself.

14:30 "How to deal with this now". No dude, you effed up. You shat on Tej's offer. Go forth and don't multiply.

Maryam Kim will laugh at your broke ass

that's mean and you sound racist.

It was also just dumb. To say you want deborah and Peter you are giving them leverage over you. Immediately after he asks them to move on equity, why would they though? you just told them you want them!

Yeah, they told him the offer that they would accept, then Tej made it and they turned him down. What does that say to the other dragons? That even if they give the offer and lower what they are asking for then these guys won't really appreciate the sacrifice and investment.

@@eleanorcooke7136 that was so...Im at a loss for words when it comes to these entrepreneurs.

*palpatine voice* it’s ironic

He’s Scottish. They’re never smiling.

Maybe it can be the company's logo.

he did though

The other guy was called McGrith and he didn't even McGrith himself off.

He clearly knows nothing about Art if he's actually collecting Banksy.

Banksy would have a fit if he found out some tosser sold a bunch of his art to start some white collar tech company that uses words like "disrupt" It's like the opposite of what Banksy stands for

You don't get as rich as them by having morals

@@Don-Carillo you're both right. If I was in their position, I would have demanded an apology for the other Dragons.

I agree. When Peter said "On the basis of the way you've handled this" ... I expected him to say he was out. Instead he says "I'm feeling a little bit strange about it". After the guy said if anyone could offer £125,000 for 5%, he'd do the deal, Tej offers that & gets rejected. They should have taught him a lesson.

@@gaysy1st why? none of them are there to stand on some moral highground, they're all there to make themselves more money in businesses, if you think this is bad then i hate to tell you its pretty standard

Yes but the other 2 were the soulless ones, so what do u expect

No it wasn’t... what he did was actually very clever and ballsy, he knew he didn’t come in to get Tej on board and he wasn’t the type of dragon he was looking for so for him to straight up decline the offer is actually very respectable not wanting to waste his or Tej’s time. It also put pressure on the other dragon’s as he showed he was going to be ruthless with his own decision making and was prepared to walk away in a second if the deal didn’t suit him. Shrewd business.

@@jimbean1371 no, he was just a dick

@@jimbean1371 so why did he say he would do the deal for 5% knowing peter wouldnt budge?!

SirLink you don’t understand business psychology. But that’s fine not everyone does.

@@jimbean1371 and you do? lmao give me a break

The deal never went through tho

If this isn’t the gospel truth

Amen 😆 everybody knows Jens dead broke 😆

hahahaha

i actually like that she's on the show, if she ever does invest it's a real shock and it's funny af counting the times she doesn't invest

Nailed it

It’s no different to saving a web page to your home screen; it works in the same way.

Nicky Johnson it’s very different.

@@syc8066 Im sorry but you're wrong. Web technology doesn't have access to mobile hardware in the same way native web app does. This is basic web development knowledge 101

@@syc8066 So actually, it is quite insecure to be able to download native apps onto your phone which have not been approved in any way.

@@JaySiggz Because they aren't formulated as a native web app, it is literally just saving a template mobile friendly website, it would not work without internet connection, its basically a fancy link. basic computer knowledge 101

Right?? They could have had 4 dragons, which would have been a huge gain for them! But no, they rudely and arrogantly spat right in their faces.

I know right it was trump card, if the card could flip the table and shoot the other players they gave a bad play and lost big

Ooopsy poopsy *Touker

Hahahaha

Jenny?

Looool

LMFAO!!

OK Grandad, that's so last year.

Gregory's Goals sorry ‘gregory’

you play fortnite calm down

Not Comfy if the only thing you can insult me on is that i like a video game, you must feel really proud of yourself lmao

The Jenny comments aren't even funny....are they?, Seriously, They've all been the same.....

So it's out now?

It’s always been out 😂😂😂😂

Its a cool app and for that reason im out

She has developed copywrites on the word "out" anywhere it's being used.

iMout

Most apps are being built this way today. Research cordova.

@@JaySiggz only around 7 percent of apps on the app store use this. It's quite limiting compared to the norm.

@@rendogsbiggestfan Sure but I said most apps are built this way. I'm not talking about what already exists. There are millions of apps on app stores, many built years ago. This technology is new so it would be ridiculous to think that most apps use it. You don't even need to research to disprove that. The technology is incredibly limiting but most apps do not require the benefits of native hardware. Most apps don't do heavy duty computation on the client side, rather, most operations are done via some sort of rest API and servers do the heavy lifting. It is easier to hire people to build apps this way as there are plenty of full web stack devs and it can be built once for all platforms. Businesses want to minimize costs so they will gladly take an insignificant performance cost.

@@JaySiggz yeah, but if you're already building a responsive website then it's pretty trivial to package it as an app. I fall to see what problem this solves.

I totally agree, I thought the exact same thing until I saw this episode!

I agree in majority of cases, but this one shouldn't be used as an example. She's competing with 4 other dragons who by themselves are way more competitive, let alone the offers they presented. She just was not going to win a deal on this episode, and rather than devalue her name by competing, she decided to save face (which is very valuable for a brand,) and declare herself out.

@@al5612 Accrington Stanley probably won't beat Liverpool. Should they just stop playing?

I would love to reply to this comment, but i'm out

The guy basically crowed about winning a bet before letting her speak. I'd opt out myself just to make him lose and teach him a lesson. Frankly a part of me is disappointed he reached an agreement at all in the end. He was a bit of an arse.

Yeah let's feel bad for the man who's worth £300 million, poor Taj didn't get to invest

@Tom Goldenheart I didn't say anything about being rude,I just said I don't feel sorry for him

David Mellish I don’t care if he is worth 300m but man being rejected like that even after he accepted his terms is painful man

*Tej

Tej is always nice and a class act, so I also felt bad for him.

Mason Johnson I will give the full amount ...but I want 101% of the company, I did money boxes, did I say,

Nothing scary about that inherently.

Nothing scary. Only keyloggers, Trojans and viruses.

It's not an APK, it's basically a bookmark to a website on your home screen. Their platform looks like an app and they're easy to build, but it's just a fancy website wrapper.

Harry Banda wtf is a apks?

@@crapitoutjim it's an android app file. Sort of like an exe on windows (more like an msi installer but let's make this easy)

She does ... The EXIT sign.

I think that Matter may have been discuused here....

Jenny worked for a big bank that ended up in government hands and walked away with a big pay off. Entrepreneur she ain't.

@Mad's 01270 😅😅😑

He's a businessman. He's not going to risk losing out on a potentially successfully investment just because Deborah's feelings got hurt. lol

Alan I completely understand why he accepted that deal. I acknowledge that this approach is the school of thought that many people adopt, that “if it makes money, I’m involved no matter what” mentality. However that doesn’t negate the fact that this school of thought has an effect on ones standing on morality, honour and principles, Peter is at the stage where no matter what business venture he involves himself in, it’s not going to make him afford something which he can’t afford already, which is why many other successful entrepreneurs such as Deborah adopt the other school of thought, where she wouldn’t get involved because the sugar levels in your product were just a little too high. It wasn’t Deborah I was referring to, I was referring to the fact that the man clearly said that he’s happy to accept a deal of 5% at 125,000 if someone offered it to him. When Tej followed up on this and accepted the offer, he abruptly, rudely and arrogantly declined, he could have just waited out for the others to make the same offer. On top of that, when Jenny asked him if he’s here for a particular dragon, he mentioned he wanted offers from all of them, which was a lie, because when offers from Tej and Touker came, he declined there offers, he declined touker before touker even said anything. All these factors would put off someone who holds these principles and morals a lot more dear to their heart than money. If your colleague was insulted on national television but you still go into business with the one who insulted him, then I’m sorry, you have no backbone.

Pol Fartin I had to google what that meant. Ironic coming from a man who’s called fartin. In all honesty, if you believe that principles and characteristics such as dignity, integrity, honour, honesty and morals are of little value to you, then that says a lot about you as an individual

Pol Fartin it’s called giving someone a taste of their own medicine. Defending yourself doesn’t negate any of those qualities. It’s quite ironic and paradoxical that the one who began with the insults, is upset and questioning someone who insulted him back, that’s like slapping someone and then wondering why they slapped you back. Get your priorities right my friend, you’re clearly lost.

@@TheAbuFulaan I wouldn't consider them colleagues. They're literally competing with each other for investment opportunities.

Haha..

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By sending them free vitamins laced with polonium?

And what about all the times the dragon's disrespect people?

The dragons are not the topic, keep up.@@vikvegas8593