CRAZIEST TURNAROUND? Dragons savage entrepreneur and then back him!!!! | Dragons' Den - BBC 

Entreprenur: I'm willing to give you 3% of the business Dragons: We want 45% Entrepreneur: Okay

Touker: "develop and we sell"... "and if you need extra space in London let me know "

The look on Peter's face when he realises he may be missing out!! Haha priceless

“this is a patented-“ Camera flicks to Deborah

I love Tej man, he is so humble, doesn't shout, and explains patiently.

Nimble is a range of award-winning child-friendly household cleaning products powered by plants. Sold in Boots, Ocado and launching in 375 Sainsbury’s stores in December 2019, it has a granted patent in the UK and EU for its Milk Buster technology and won the BBC’s 'The Customer is Always Right' award. In you face Peter Jones!!

What's messed up is when they get multiple offers, if they try to negotiate with one, the others get in a snit. WTF? I can't negotiate with 3 separate offers at the same time. SOMEONE has to wait.

I don’t think he even wanted to accept that. He just didn’t have the balls to say no to them

Love Sarah- she is amazing, what she did was bringing other two dragons is the perfect thing to do.

Hate when they have a tantrum when the entrepeneur starts talking to a particular dragon. "Well if you're talking to Tej i might just say I'm out!" He's not asked him to go the cinema instead of you, this is a bloody business pitch

Sarah's smile is more than enough to have faith in life!

Love it when Touker gets out of his seat with excitement and hype.

"I'm the elder statesmen here, need some respect." "Well pardon me I'm off to play the grand piano" - Graham Chapman

He should said "30% I don't care if we spilt it 3 wayse, 2 ways, or 1 way but 30% is my max" if they bulk, say I will walk, if they don't budge...walk.

"Come on uncle T, you know we're good" 😂😂

Thanks for spoiling the ending in the title lol

When he mentioned 70k units, the look on Debra and Peter's face. They must have regretted it

He could have got lower than 45% if he didn't nod his head so much in agreement with them for literal minutes.

So a lot of comments are calling this man greedy. He studied and worked his whole life to develop the skills to create this, got very nice branding and graphic design and a patent. Getting into boots stores isn't a small deal, and IP alone is valuable. The brand name alone is pretty solid and everything combined is very valuable.

Damn are they being really rude this season? It isn't cute.

It's about time that Peter (in particular) learned to ask questions and stop arrogantly pre-judging people and ideas *BEFORE* rudely declaring himself out on the grounds of 'being insulted'. I'm actually quite surprised that Deborah, too, didn't even try to discern the potential in this entrepreneur (who even had the magic patent which she - quite rightly - always values so highly) - OK, so the company valuation was high, and yes, there are also other 'eco-brands' in the marketplace, but the patent's very existence must indicate that either the others *_aren't_* patented (if using the same ingredients), or that this chemist's version is, at the very least, different enough to earn official protection. Surely that alone is worth more than insta-dismissal? Mind you: perhaps the reason for such a scathing attitude was more due to my strong suspicion that, no matter how many children they have, Peter and/or Deborah leave/left the grunt-work to nannies and cleaners, and thus have so little experience (if any?) of the more messy and less fun side of child-rearing that they don't even know how damned hard it is cleaning up after babies and toddlers...?! From personal experience, I know that even the best-known 'eco-brands' are disappointing in performance (to say the least), especially where the more labour-intensive child-related cleaning tasks are concerned, so what if this apparently very bright (and very modest) chemist *HAS* come up with a formula that isn't only green, but actually *_efficient,_* too? Yes, he valued his company too highly (although did he, if he has a deal to supply 700,000 units *x 10* in hand...?), but even so, Peter and/or Deborah could easily have calmed down a bit from being 'insulted' by the valuation (always an old story in the Den, anyway!), and enquired further about future orders and/or additional ideas/inventions, as Sara Davies wisely did. Incidentally, I find Sara to be a *GREAT* addition to the Den, all round: as usual, she was not only savvy and tolerant, but also kind and encouraging, and she took time to *_explain_* her response to the valuation *AND* her rationale for investing, as well as helping to secure the three-way split investment - which, once more, was good to see after Peter's (and, again, Deborah's - although she does this far more rarely) summary and, frankly, rude dismissal of what may well turn out to be an excellent new brand and a very profitable enterprise, with an inventive and promising owner who seems to have a *LOT* to offer. And finally, it was great to see the entrepreneur get a deal, at a price which I think probably *DOES* reflect the fact that he really doesn't seem at all the type to fiercely market and sell a brand, which is, after all, what the Dragons do best. A genuine team effort, I would say: he'll be able to quietly research, improve, and invent products, which is *_his_* forte, while they use *_their_* very different (but equally important, compatible, and complementary) skills fighting to establish his inventions in the scary fray of inter-business competition. I bet - and I hope! - that he will be happy with his decision in the long term. Much success to him :)

Sarah Davies is a wonderful, lovely human being seeing how she handled this. And for that reason, I'm out.

8:31 Tej "and that's a good offer" Entrepreneur thinks, "I'll be the judge of that".

Sara Davies is the best addition to Dragon’s Den since the elevator.

I watched this episode when it was aired on Sunday. I thought the Dragons were so mean, borderline aggressive, towards this man. It really made the whole episode uncomfortable and awkward to watch. I am happy the man got investment in the end. Personally, I would have rejected their offers on the basis on how poorly they treated me in this situation.

Ah there's Sarah kicking butt again. I was delighted to see how happy she was for him right after the pitch, smiling and congratulating him.

11:53. Someone’s got a huge ego...

The Jenny jokes are gone and I’m out

A dreadful outcome for the entrepreneur. Because the precious dragons felt "insulted" by his business valuation, they basically knifed him. Utter greed and manipulation. My respect for these dragons has really gone down! 👎

They should get Jenny in as a guest Dragon for every single deal, just to say that she's out

Sarah “I’m up for a three way split” 😂🤭

This was terrible and predatory. They did nothing short of rob an honest man, feign insult, belittle him, didn’t let him speak. A terrible group of people.

I can't see any evidence of this deal going through. Company still trades, website looks ok, customers seem happy but there just isn't enough of them. Since this show was aired in 2018, their turnover hasn't increased significantly, well at least until 2019, accounts data for 2020 wasn't filled yet. Don't know why I checked but you are welcome anyway...

Touker: “I’m old, so show me some damn extra respect... or I’m out!!!”

This poor guy got robbed by millionaires in broad daylight, just because he couldn't defend his valuation when pressurized.

I felt sorry for him because he was so squeezed and he knew he would not be able to make it...huge sale without their help:( Wish him all the best:)

If he had just gone in a few months later when the licensing deal was confirmed he could have walked out with an amazing valuation

Bloody hell, have the dragons aged 10 years since the last video?

"The problem is you don't have a marketing plan" ... well he does, he is going to use the money you invest to employ somebody to help him market the business, thats a pretty reasonable plan for somebody who doesn't understand marketing but sure Tej, lets give the guy some money and then make him go out and learn how to do marketing

Glad to read the company is doing well, PJ and DM were too quick to judge and excluded him to fast! Normally they are forgiving

Yep Peter face was like "you little prick why didn't you tell me about those order right away".

I was so impressed when he cleaned that baby milk bottle with just 2 sprays of his stuff and a bit of water in a few seconds!! I remember I had to sterilise all the bottles for hours before reusing them for my baby girl- his invention is outstanding 👏 I am investing 😺

They were literally bullying him

0:18 the face you make when someone shuts your car door too hard

Hope he declined the offer after this, 45% is pure madness.

i had a friend go on this and she said it was the most nerve racking time of her life. she got the deal she wanted but it all fell through, thats normal apparently?

They used his lack of negotiation skills and desperation against him..

Touker is a real underrated powerhouse in the den. No childsplay

Personally, I don't care how ridiculous a valuation is, they should say "here is the value we see" and logically come to a decent number instead of pillaging the poor soul. This show just shows how scummy investors are.

Sarah Davies' smile to the Entrepreneurs are always warm

At 1:54 just before the camera pans round you can see Jenny's reflection in the bottle miming "I'm outtttt"

6:39 - Deborah regretting her "im out" and wishing she let him say what he wanted to say. Which probably was just what he said to Sara about the letter of intent. She Petered out and it backfired. She will remember that. If this was Shark Tank AUS, she would however quite possibly declare herself "in again".

Jenny: “hi i’m jenny and... Von: “i know already, ur out”

I'm out!

I love this episode. They devoured his soul based off the valuation (understandable at first). Then they hear he has a letter of intent for 700,000 units.... Per Sku ... And he has 10 sku's.... LOL.... Then they all want in... Maybe if they would of given him the opportunity to get to that point.... He's obviously not a salesman so he didn't think to mention that as the first point. He was getting there, but because he wasn't as much of a salesman as they all are they just immediately wrote him off at first without letting him explain. Then he gets there and they are like, "woah, shit just got serious, we're very very interested now" 😂😂😂

Love how touka always giving people a chance 🙏🏻😎👌

I hope the deal didn't go through after the show. 39% is unacceptable

The amount of rudeness and sheer arrogance displayed by the investors was jaw dropping.

Nice change seeing the other dragons get a shot at talking rather than just Debra and Peter.

11:26 Did Tej just basically admit they are giving him unfair offers to be spiteful?

This new revamp of The Real Hustle is getting really out of hand. So realistic!

1:36 me when I walk into Costco.

Peter's face though when Tez made an offer 😅

Von's big deal was with Tesco's. And he has developed the other products he mentioned eg. fabric softener and bottle brush. Pretty sure he's worth that valuation now two years after this aired, probably more.

10:28 That was adorable.

I loved the Mr.Tej offer. How he sense the potential in the business. Very exciting was that

Peter: im out Von: oh........

Touker doesn't get out of bed for 3%

3:02 Peter was going to drop the f-bomb

He got right taken advantaged of there like.

Tuka- I’m the elder statesman and deserve respect! Man- shut the hell up pops, I’ll get to you when I’m ready. Have a nap while you wait.

I bet they felt threatened when they heard he had a big offer waiting from another huge company. 😂 But lately, the dragons have been acting like total W A N K E R S. I sometimes wonder WTF more do they expect from these entrepreneurs? Bloody ball breakers. I look at the dragons differently now with their arrogance & rudeness.

I like the way Touker says " Teevers and Bot-tles " 9:04 reminds me of my Bermondsy roots ..

This was daylight robbery

Touker throws his head forward on Tej’s offer. Actually hilarious.

8:02 This is the funniest sequence in the den ever

1:30 Touker is willing to get out of bed look and hand over office space keys. Now I'll watch on.

7:10 I don't think he understood her then and just agreed 😂 Tbh I had to play it back!

I be watching this show for years and still don't understand it 😊

This sentence make sense " Develop and we will sell it"

Jenny didn't even bother coming to this one. She was out right from the get-go of waking up.

Wow it’s funny how fuming they get when someone tries to play them at their own game 😂😂

Sarah is so polite

He accepted under duress and you could see he didn’t welcome it in his heart. Hopefully he slept on it and cancelled offer

So he walks in valuing the company at 83x its current annual turnover (not even profit which is likely much lower). Gets three Dragons on board for a valuation at 5.5x current annual turnover, two of which have a lot to offer domestically and the other offering international presence. And people here are outraged that he didn't try to negotiate them to 8.3x annual turnover, or think that the Dragons are vultures who only consider money back in one year? If there wasn't 100x growth post-investment, that initial valuation may have taken a CENTURY to see ANY return on investment! Nevermind inflation in the meantime.

Touker, "where's the freebies" 🤣

If I was him I would've asked them to drop down to 10% each once the money is repayed

He should rebrand it and sell it as a product for neutralizing the dairy smell in protein shakers or coffee mugs instead of making it a niche product for baby bottles

I feel this guy was robbed, obviously he had large deals pending that he wasn’t legally at this stage was allowed to expose so that’s why the valuation was so high- 39 percent, poor guy

Would of said 10% each or nothing.

Everything about this pitch was savage, truly savage ...

If he came in with a more sensible offer, he cold have negotiated it down to 30% instead of 39%.

'Sorry to hear this Deborah'

They were incredibly mean to him

WHY THE HELL DID HE ACCEPT?!? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ He didn’t/wasn't able to give a fair presentation of how much his business could bring which is why they asked for so much. If he can really see it’s going to grow big and he’s got buyers then he should’ve said no, or at least tried convincing them to a lower amount.

Never a good idea at 1:14 to describe a cleaning product as Good. Clean. Fun.

Uncle T 🤣🤣🤣

He has to be the best uncle in the world.

"I'm not on this show and for that reason I"m out" - Barbara

Wow. I spray milk all over the place and my owner has a hell of a job removing the residue😸😸