Environmentalism, the Tower of Babel and the Disintegration of Culture | with Paul Kingsnorth 

Blessings to you.

i would do vespers on saturday night first. i felt better prepared.

Im intrested in you. . Im christin. Why are you intrested? 😁

Im a Christian from south USA

Yall are lost on your fake intellectulism!

Thanks for transcribing that brilliant quote! Ave Maria. Salve Christus Rex.

Amen

Such a good reply; I copied it and e-mailed it to some friends. (Left-Liberal friends...)

I really don't think I understand this...

Awesome quote. Nietzsche’s context for saying God is dead. Jordan Peterson fleshes that out some.

Indeed!

@You murdered that guy you will come around. Lindy effect is far superior than what is current. Older ideas that survive through time are superior to the new and short lived framings.

@You murdered that guy if you knew what lindy effect actually means you wouldn’t respond with such modesty.

@You murdered that guy So there, you will come around. Taleb and Pageau are similar but through different angles.

@You murdered that guy That's another way to say, fine you win

Me too

Ssaaame!

Same, times infinity.

Me too!!!! Can we start a club?

@@97kirstiann aren't we already in one? 😁

Somehow christian values cannot be enforced. If they are enforced they are not christian anymore. You cannot love your enemy by force, that's tyranny, and that's not love.

A wonderful observation. :)

Such widom...🌟

Christianity, the religion which committed genocide on six continents.

Ah, but were they really Christians?

How do you do?

Scott, when we understand, that actually nobody wants to be caught up in the machinery of modernity that does not serve them, only a few, then we see everybody as an ally. To the extent we are caught up in modernity, is to the extent we have forgotten to ancient mystery and wisdom. We have even lost our sense of humor in pursuit of order.

@@tensevo I love this

He's mistaken, though. In the beginning was the Word. All liturgy comes from the Word, or is useless at best, deceptive at worst. The Bible isn't a "moral lecture." It shows us who God is.

@@bobtaylor170 yet God's Word isn't confined to scripture, so it's a valid point to make IF the church puts the emphasis on scripture to much. There are churches that idolise the bible over God, personally I think this goes hand in hand with sola scriptura. So I'd definitely agree with you, that the bible isn't simply a "moral lecture", unfortunately in practice a lot of churches over-emphasize the "lecture" (moral or strictly theoretical).

​@@bobtaylor170 yes but it was the church which put together the bible and side by side with scripture are the mystery of the sacraments, hymns of praise, doxology, and the Holy Spirit.

And Roger Scruton who remained Anglican

Up to 20th century, it was extremely hard to be a western writer without being a christian, so obviously they were defending their religion

A good point, but technically Lewis was Irish

Thank you, Julia, for the connection with Dostoevsky. His late novels "Demons" and "Karamazov" are like two scenarios for the future. In "Demons," people have been eaten by political ideas (as we see today) and the village is in flames. In "Karamazov," the young monk and his young friends are the nucleus of a new non-monastic Christian fellowship. It really seems like it's going to have to be one or the other. But Alyosha is not a community organizer (though on a superficial level that's what he is!). He is a man of prayer who learned from the wise elder, Zosima. Too many people think Book 5 (Ivan's "Grand Inquisitor" etc.) is the heart of the book. No, it's Book 6, "The Russian Monk," the life and teaching of the elder.

Glory be to God!!

Many years!

@@pontification7891, there’s only one TINY little problem with what you wrote above, Sir.☝️ There has never been, nor will there ever be, even the SLIGHTEST shred of evidence for the existence of the Godhead, that is, a Supreme Person or Deity.‬🤓 It is high time for humanity to awaken from all INANE superstitions such as the belief in a Personal God which created the Universe, would you not agree, Slave? 😩

@@TheWorldTeacher OK Great Teacher. Thank you. Now I'm awake. Thank God, I'm not a Slave any more!

@@pontification7891, Good Girl! 👌

its a literal nothing statement. really listen to the "envro" guy. he just hates "the west" aka Whites

We talk about the west as a melting pot, but its more along the lines of a food processor. Its a soup vs sauce argument really

@@jillbrown5175 Agree. Nature worship is idolatry. He does a good job of seeming not to be an extremist anymore.

@@jillbrown5175 I disagree. He hates modernity.

@@leondbleondb Paul is a very newly baptized or chrismated Orthodox Christian. A little patience and humility is what I would suggest toward him.

Are you a THEIST? 🤔 If so, what are the reasons for your BELIEF in God? 🤓

We have just tipped over from Babylon into a Beast system. Babylon is hyper license in desire and lust, the Beast is hyper oppression and tyranny. With Babylon God calls us out of her, the Beast we overcome by the blood of the lamb and the Word of our testimony.

It's funny how I find myself being dragged, kicking and screaming right now ^^ Maybe not the same, but very clearly similar, at the same time ^^

@@elektrotehnik94 I feel for ya!

@@taranmurray7046 No worries; I welcome the change :D

Soon he will believe in superman and allah, other made-up stories.

As a side note, I think it is worth mentioning that I have always seen money (trade and commerce), as an antidote to war. As eluded to, we have an inbuilt tendency to religion, sacrifice, but we also have a built in tendency towards competition and war, and that the money game was always a better alternative to war games.

Regarding Buddhism & Hinduism, regarding receiving transforming wisdom through meditation (which is where I found the most wisdom in those traditions, likely not the only place/ way to find that wisdom there ^^); I've found their ways have some benefits & some faults: 1.) Good side --> These religions are largely experiential, not word-based; in that sense, in those traditions, what God is cannot be really corrupted in the same way as Christianity could corrupt itself. As in; words can easily be corrupted, the experience of God's Grace cannot be influenced by us. These religions are also incredibly powerful at disarming/ dissolving? ego, without needing to convince a person to believe anything, really. It is very potent for semi-stubborn atheist ego-filled Westeners such as I was ^^. 2.) Bad side --> They are largely not word-based; in that sense, it's hard/ confusing to get a good grasp of how to live your life once faced with the experience of the Glory of God. You also kind of don't have any word-based tools to convey what God is to another person... even though I don't find it clear that any religion lets you describe the essence of God to another human with words anyway. I find it that (maybe) your own transformation (caused by being in contact with God) is the only thing that can communicate the Glory of God to another human anyway. As in; it's less about the words themselves, more about what is indwelling the person saying the words while he is saying them. It also seems harder to maintain a social hierarchy with this kind of experiencing God & integrating the teachings; In most Hindu & Buddhist teachings you require a mentor of sorts to help you on your path, to help you keep your path straight & be your guide. Doing it without a mentor is not encouraged, but not forbidden. Just my 2 cents for anyone not having any grasp on the rough scaffolding of what is a part of Eastern spirituality & why people might go there.

Okay, I know it's me... But I (in the past) fit your description. But Fr. Seraphim Rose never did it for me at all. I've been Orthodox for 20 years. Perhaps if I had read him before becoming Orthodox?? I don't know...

@@MarcumDavid I read him before so that probably did make a difference. Was really into the paranormal and mysticism and didn’t know Orthodoxy was even a thing so maybe that’s why it impacted me so much.

@@TheDonovanMcCormick he shook the new-ageism out of me too.

Welcome!

This is your neighbor. Can you please stop screaming, I work a night shift.

My thoughts exactly!

@Kurapika Giovanna I mean: I live in the third world, you know. Lived on the streets for some time, myself. And I stick to my words: most corruption, violence, cynicism towards authority, poverty, and crime (the staple products of this side of the planet) can be traced back to people forgetting the ethical requirements to belong to the Christian world.

@Kurapika Giovanna sure thing, bucko (: Now go out there and live righteously - which should not be mistaken with "self-righteously". I will be cheering on you.

@Kurapika Giovanna sounds like an excuse to me, but whatever gets you going, good human.

@Kurapika Giovanna anarchism is bankrupt

If you want to be successful have the mindset of the rich spend less and invest more don't give up your dreams..

@@robertharton6237 yes that true

Impressive, I realized that the secret to making a million is saving for a better investment.. I always tell myself you don’t need that new Aston Martin or that vacation in Hawaii just yet and that mindset helps me make more money investing.

Impressive, I realized that the secret to making a million is saving for a better investment.. I always tell myself you don’t need that new Aston Martin or that vacation in Hawaii just yet and that mindset helps me make more money investing.

@@fastlinkdeliverycompany6402 yes it really true to save for a better Investment.

Are you a THEIST? 🤔 If so, what are the reasons for your BELIEF in God? 🤓

LITERALLY fantastic. 😉