EOTECH EFLX Mini Reflex Sight 

I’m interested to watch his review too! but if it passes his tests all it tells us is it’s as good as an RMR and 507c… it’ll need more than that to be competitive I feel

This was my first thought when I saw it!

Agreed! I'm really stoked and want it to live up to the hype

@Jesse Robinson terrible opinion.

@@JakeCamo So, if it’s as good as the top industry standard, then people wont buy it? I don’t think it works like that lol.

People in the know claim there is a new Reflex Optic sight in the works for rifles but it's still in the design stages. Maybe next year. Current XPS line up has bad battery life, which is why I have it on my Range only fun.

When they were on the Live Q or Die podcast, they claimed it was impossible to build a holographic in any smaller of a package than current EOTech offerings.. but we can still hope

@@mitchellturk1077 history's full of "it can't be done". One day, someone will figure it out.

Me too. My eyes no longer work with red dots. Holographic only for me.

@teebles Yet Kevin has full custody of his kids. I love how the online hive mind hates kevin so much they make up fake info or just leave out important info. When it comes to the podcast, The info about Eotech came from Aaron Hampton, who works at eotech (if I recall correctly hes the head product manger) so I would hold his info to a high standard. Check out the podcast a lot of industry legends are on it. Next season Trey knight is gonna be on it. You might actually learn something

i just want a micro exps series

@@zexnynex777 Same. That would be amazing if they could cram a legit holographic optic into something the size of an ACRO/509T with an ACRO footprint.

@@zexnynex777 Also, one of my biggest complaints about the Holosun line is that their circle dot reticle’s outer 32 MOA ring is too small for their center 2 MOA dot. It gets way too crowded. EoTech could’ve fixed this problem with this release, but decided not to for some reason.

@@WheelchairOperator if they are just dipping their toes into the pistol optics all those others could be on the way🤞

Holosun already beat them at their own game with the 509t

Definitely feels like a missed opportunity

It’s all in the plan… they’ve gotta launch/start somewhere first… 😂 I guess? There’s better stuff ahead I presume

@eotech should’ve done closed emitter with donut of death

@@civilian0005 yeah I mean theyre only 15 years behind

I think it's because this is meant for a military contract. Which is why the deltapoint footprint. An they also may have requested no mounting plates. Which basically all enclosed emitter optics need by design. Now if they could figure out how to enclose it and make it a direct M17-M18 mount they'd be set.

This seems welcoming. It just reminds me of the venom but sig romeo...

But made America 🇺🇸 👌

It's ok Aaron Cowan will tell us lmao

I'd rather replace my battery more often in an American optic than support China and their junk.

@tacticaltoolbox I love your channel tactical tool box but I gotta say I really disagree with you and a lot of other RU-vidrs on the Holosuns. They aren’t bad optics but please for the love of god stop supporting company’s that manufacture in China. You are supporting communism and forced labor when you buy a holosun. Support America

Ah, a fellow man of culture 👌

Literally my reaction

Hahah. Same here man.

I’m already negative in the bank 😏😏

I get that reference. Hahahaha

1 nobody gives a shit about a teen site like Reddit. 2 2015 wasn’t that long ago. Fact.

@@CB-ux5xc 2015 was 7 years ago, and there's been a lot of changes in pistol red dots since then. Introducing something that would have been run of the mill nearly a decade ago, at a not particularly competitive price point is not a winning move. Especially in a market where the move is currently to enclosed optics

@@CB-ux5xc hehe reddit bad

What’s wrong with it?

there's nothing "wrong" with the sight, but there's nothing that stands out about it either. the question eotech should've sought to answer is "why should i buy the eflx sight rather than an rmr, sro, acro, etc?"

@@osiria391 yeah I like a lot of the other name brand sights and a few off brand (as far as reading and RU-vid, haven’t had optics, thinking about trying some) and I can’t understand the reason for their price.

Price point of $389 is pretty good

@@cvshav seems high to me but I’ve never had optics on a handgun just looking into trying it out.

Excellent point. I won’t use one on my home defense gun for that exact reason.

@@ParrotTactical same here.

@@ParrotTactical Same. Switched to holosun for the shake awake.

That's why I was never a fan of EOTech. I do not want any of my defensive guns to not have a shake awake feature.

@@BezmenovDisciple All that paint you been sniffing getting to your head boy?

Stepped up? By releasing an open emitter optic design that’s been around forever?

😂

They did a long time ago, the old model was called the MRD or MRDS

@@s4official344 Yep, this was back in the Insight Technologies days and it was called the MRDS (Miniature Red Dot Sight). Like the Docter, they weren’t very popular on the commercial market at the time because they were largely overshadowed by the RMR and Insight was focused on fulfilling their military contacts instead of marketing towards said commercial market.

That’s an instant buy from most of the gun community.

@@MrMann-gt1eh Maybe. A true laser based hologram as opposed to an LED eats batteries for lunch. Probably not possible with current battery tech.

@mig1nc exactly. I wish it were possible because I'm light sensitive and color blind. So no LED based red dots get bright enough for me. (An yes I've tried Aimpoins and Green/Gold Dots) But an Eotech does get bright enough. So it's basically etched reticles and eotechs or nothing for me.

@@mig1nc I don’t mind holos. I prefer them. Batteries are cheap and easy to find. I prefer the best combat optic. Rocket fuel is expensive but if they want the right tool to get that shuttle into space, you gotta choose the right fuel. There’s a reason SF guys use their T2 for the range and the EXPS for real work. Being able to drive a sight without parallax can keep your brain in your skull in one piece. Range/3 gun comps have different recommended sights than combat sights. Like people don’t use Vortex Razors in combat even as gorgeous as they are.

@@mig1nc It's not the battery tech... I forgot which RU-vid channel, but someone asked the Eotech rep, and he basically said there are too many mirrors involved to get something much smaller than the XPS/EXPS line.

This isn't innovation, it's stagnation. Just like with micro compact pistols, EOtech isn't trying to win the market, they're just trying to join the market. The next big fad will hit in a year or so and every manufacturer will jump to that, not trying to make the best one, but just trying to make one to put in the market.

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them.

bold of them to make tech from 5 years ago

It will suffice for 95% of casual civilian shooters, including you. Fact.

@@CB-ux5xc Cool story. Iron sights are sufficient for 95% of shooters, so why bother improving on them? They're putting out something that would have been run of the mill 5 years ago. Coming into a saturated market with an optic that brings nothing new to the table as far as features or price is not a winning strategy.

Ahaha XD

I think it's because this is meant for a military contract. Which is why the deltapoint footprint. An they also may have requested no mounting plates. Which basically all enclosed emitter optics need by design. Now if they could figure out how to enclose it and make it a direct M17-M18 mount they'd be set.

This is an SRO with a square window, less reticle options, and less brightness settings, although they got the footprint right 🤷🏽‍♂️

If you want the ring, why not a holosun? HE-508t is about the same price, with exceptional durability, similar battery accessibility, and multiple reticle options including a 32 MOA ring & dot (not quite the 68 MOA ring on EOTech Holographic sights, but still provides a similar benefit)

..... Because loosening two screws to change a battery is so hard.....

@@leadsled213 no, but it's a PITA having to do that and then re-zero to change a battery.

Trijicon RMR $450 and coupons are available.

@@literallynobody1515 And holosun with shake awake, donut of death reticle, and 50k battery life for $100 less. This optic is baller for 2015. But a huge miss for 2022.

@@Kycirion And made in 🇨🇳

Becuase its in the dpp footprint it has a way to change the battery to take it off alot of guns have the DPP footprint not everything should be rmr

It should have been Rmr lol it’s much more popular

@@boomee78 you can use a side loading battery on an RMR footprint, as Holosun does

@@boomee78 Holosun uses a RMR mount but doesn’t need to be roved to replace a battery. RMR is the most popular and most commonly seen optic mount.

@@Murphy82nd yes holson does it but u cant xopy that design

Yeah, I'm amused by some of the other posts complaining about the DPP footprint. Eotech wants some of those sweet, sweet DoD and LE contracts, and at least in my neck of the woods, departments not already in the Glock or M&P ecosystem or moving to the P320.

@@BezmenovDisciple You know what, I had to look that one up... M&P 2.0 optic ready slides do, in fact, accept the DPP natively. They're cut for both DPP and RMR from the looks of it. So if you're going to buy one of the three striker guns most popular with LE right now with an optic ready slide, all of them would accept the DPP footprint natively.

According to EoTech the technology just isn't there yet but they are working on it

Most holosights have a fixed eye relief that would be hard for a pistol dot. You’d have to accommodate people with super short arms and long arms

@62jape an eotech is a holographic sight and it has not fixed eye relief. In fact it has infinite eye relief. It's not a prism. It's a red dot that uses lazers instead of an led. Which is why the other comments mention the tech not being there yet. Lazer emitters eat batteries for lunch.

The problem is that true holographics, like the OG EOTech XPS line, use a laser to project the reticle, while traditional red dots like Aimpoints and Holosuns use an LED. The laser on the holographic requires a far greater power draw than an LED, more than a coin-style battery or even AA's can provide, hence why the EOTech uses a CR123. The parts needed for the laser are bulkier than what you need for an LED. Making a true laser-based holographic that's slightly smaller than an XPS is actually exceptionally difficult, let alone one small enough to put on a pistol. They'll come out with a donut-and-dot reticle at some point. Probably also an enclosed emitter some time after that. But a true laser-based holographic sight that's anywhere near small enough for handguns is still at least decades away, I think.

The eotech is complex inside, my bet is that what they need to work on is miniaturization of such complex system. The laser is there to illuminate the hologram, maybe this system needs more light than a reflex.

$369 apparently, so not bad from them

I noticed that, too. I pray it’s as good as an RMR as that could be directly mounted on the M17 & M18 and it will sit PROPERLY as opposed to how optics sit on top of those pistols’ slides.

I wish it had a rear notch like the Romeo Pro so you can use it as a rear sight if need be.

Dude... same... WTF didnt they do the 68 moa ring??? Would have actually set them apart. This is just more of the same.

@@Weaponized_Autism Those may be on their way in the future. The enclosed emitter may be a hard one while still staying within the same general dimensions and would also probably require a different mounting footprint (footprints that involve screws near the middle of the optic, like RMR and DPP, interfere with having an enclosed emitter). But the ring and dot may be doable.

Problem is that at full extension a micro dot like that would have the ring be bigger than actual window.

You’re not getting holographic + 20k hours of battery life.

@@borkwoof696 Exactly. I don’t get why people don’t understand this. True Holographic sights use hi tech lasers. Not simple efficient LEDs. I always hear “But Holosun does it”. I keep telling them Holosun doesn’t make a single holographic sight. Why Holo is in the name I don’t know but reflexsun doesn’t sound too good lol. I am disappointed they didn’t do the donut of death though. It helps find your dot if it gets lost.

It's hilarious because you know these guys aren't running any kind of real admin program on their kit. They'll talk about an optic not having 5 years of battery life and how they won't trust their life to it while having no actual idea when the battery in their Holosun is due. Sure enough they'll show up to the flat range one day and it'll be dead. They'll wonder why, and not even have a replacement in the range bag. An ounce of preparation is worth a pound of cure.

@@macfolkers1774 except most holosuns have solar panels so they'd still run even if the battery is low.

@@Brett710 Solar panels don't provide on demand power they charge batteries. Otherwise you wouldn't need a battery at all. I'm guessing you don't leave your holosun in the window to charge. If you're on an op where your optic is exposed to enough sunlight to actually matter, the odds are you're running something substantially better than a holosun. It's a gimmick.

It has an EOTECH Symbol on the side?

Was asking myself these same questions.

Competitive price🤣

Yeah. It looks okayish, but not as impressive as exps

supposedly price is around 370

That's what i would like to see from next gen model as well. Motion tech and auto shutoff in DPP was pretty sweet

This is why your pfp is an NPC.

@@kristjonpedersen9342 TDS is real

@@cody8217 you're the one who mentioned him. It was more a play on the npc meme and a generic comment about a product that's half assed being good.

@@kristjonpedersen9342 I guess it’s half assed. Only time will tell and those that get them first. I said what I said because I have never heard Eotech mention “civilian” use of their products, until now. It reminds me a lot of where Surefire is going as well. It’s nice to see that. That’s all. No reason to get all negative about it or towards others/me. lol.

They ain’t though..

we are all just as disappointed

That's what the high brightness setting is for, for the light doesn't wash out your dot

@@qwe304 lol you still have to see what you're shooting at.

Holosun is complete garbage. You can have your Chinese crap.

@@CB-ux5xc while I don’t like supporting the Chinese their products have proven themselves not only with incredible torture tests that have crushed many of their more pricey US competitors but they have a much wider array of features rather than just riding on the laurels of their fame from some bought-off military contract from 20 years ago. I’m not gonna lie, I love EOTECHS but oh their battery life sucks comparatively, their glass isn’t super crisp and they had that huge thermal zero shift drama a few years ago and most of their products have made extremely small changes to their designs over the years with very few new features added and the prices staying relatively the same or increasing.Trijicon is outdated, overweight and clunky with their scopes the RMR is decent but has a small window with a blue tint and a lot of distortion as compared to some other reflex sights and the MRO was a flop, Leupold is ok but not a durable, lacks features, is overpriced and has a proprietary footprint. Vortex, well US company with a good warranty but nothing special and the products are imports too. Aimpoint and Zeiss are golden children of the optics world and TBH I’m own several Aimpoints and while the quality and construction are there they too haven’t added many features they’ve just made optics smaller and they are both imports. Elcans have nice glass and are durable and I have one of them too but they are extremely heavy and expensive and oh wait, also imports. You do what you want but for me with some things it’s more important that you get a good product with the features that you want than to just buy American when they are overpriced and not being competitive. Im just curious, and please be honest. Where was your phone made? Where was your car made? (And if it’s a USA Mfg. have you have you ever looked in the door jamb to see where the components where really made?) Computer? Clothes you’re wearing right now? I try to buy American whenever possible especially if the company is actually producing goods here but I can’t in good conscience support them on that alone. They need to bring something else to the table like innovation or cost savings, or a damn good warranty (which means less to me on something that I may have to rely on to defend my life with).

@@CB-ux5xc I'm sure you can't even give a reason why you think that.

@@operator1192 agreed 100 percent

Hey friend, a lot of optics fixed that a while ago. Trijicon and a small number of clones are the only ones still doing that.

$369

Take it easy Bird Person, you don't have to flex so much. And I noticed they didn't say Shake Awake.

@@almostontimehero5415 that is definitely a downside of the eotech platform. I have an EXPS3-0 on an 11.5 and hate that it’s not constant on or at least shake awake. Either way, it’s one of the best in the game.

$420.69 is the proposed MSRP.

@@bibifromsenegal3617 🤣

I forgot which RU-vid channel I saw it on, but the asked the Eotech rep, and he said "they were investigating other reticle options".

@@mikeharvey9184 lol so they're answer is a simple dot?

What does this do that the DPP doesn’t?

DPP does more. Only thing I like about the eotech vs DPP is the dot intensity settings. The eotech is like the RMR where the DPP you have to scroll through the settings. Can't just go up or down. But my DPP has 3 NV settings which is good for indoors and outside use. Which is just somwthing you have to get used to and train for. NBD

Lol of course not, don't need to make an effort, because idiots will buy this for the brand alone.

Most people complaining about the "LoW bAtTeRy LiFe" prolly will never use the optic more than a few times at the range. 20k hours OR roughly 833 days of continuous running sounds fine by me.

@Ghost yeah. Have the same issue with my 3.25 moa rmr as this will have. It's either too bright or too dim. My buddy has a holosun 507c and it has an in between setting which puts it where I need it for my nods. Now the 1moa rmr is a different story. Works great..

@Ghost under night vision the 3.25 rmr is not better than the 507c. The 1moa rmr is, but the 3.25 on the lowest setting it's too dim for passive aiming and the next setting up is so bright it blooms out the image through the lense.

@Ghost and I have RNVG's on a super bright night like last night it's not as huge an issue. Di it with limited to no moon.

@Ghost cool thing about clouds and a full moon/waxing gibbous is it reflects moonlight like a big ass florescent lights. On top of that you had snow which also reflects moonlight. So you are comparing to pretty ideal conditions. Check again when there's no moonlight or snow and get back to me.

@Ghost I'm not a holosun fan girl. I don't even own one. 😂 only optics I have are an Aimpoint T2 an Eotech Xps3 Leupold Mk4 Trijicon rmr and a Nightforce Atacr. So try again.

But ur paying for the name! And we will give u half the features of our competitor holosun.

First thing I noticed!

Lol just make excuses for them man, Eotech is putting out an antiquated product and everyone knows it.

But with only one reticle option, less battery life and no "shake awake". I think people expected more from a brand like eotech.

Lol yeah sold at a holosun price point with less features, I'll just stick to holosun.

Right. I was super disappointed. This looks exactly like a RMR with a battery where it’s supposed to be. The price point will probably be around $600. I’ll stick to DPP if that’s the case. Shit, even Holoson is gaining on the field.

@@cerebralfirearms MSRP will be $369

If it was holographic everyone would bitch about the size, weight, price and battery life.

There is one that was leaked. It's got a slanted top, looks kinda weird too. Hopefully they announce it at shot show

Euro optic has this listed for $369

@@petercristiano4068 Nice find! Didn't see that - everywhere I looked (two places lol) it was 500+

$410-$490 for Trijicon RMR. …Tried and tested. (On opticsplanet rn)

@@MrMann-gt1eh Does that include tax/shipping? Maybe even cheaper on BDU if a member. I didn't want to wait for shipping so after tax in my state, it was 530 at the local shop

The cheapest I’ve seen it is $479. If it can hold up with the rmr why not save the scratch and put it towards Ammo or a good pistol light. And for the record I have a rmr. Not bashing at all

Finally someone gets it. For the people shouting it needs shake awake, that’s a civilian minded convenience feature and not for the people who will be carrying daily. If you’re walking around or driving in the car, the dot is already on. It’s easier to track the hours on a battery if it’s always on and then change it out yearly. A key point to the 20,000 hours is at what setting? If it’s 6 or 7, that’s actually good run time. What i’m looking to see in person is will the dot be clear, and will the glass have any fish bowling like the RMR and Holosun’s do?

@@travisboles2646 on their website, the 20,000 hour figure is for the 6MOA dot at level 5. The 3MOA dot is 25,000 hours at level five. While shake-awake is a cool feature, when you get into battery life measured in *years* for a duty optic that uses a common $3 battery, it’s something I really don’t care about. I do care about getting near the durability of my RMR for half the cost… with a better layout and larger window.

I thought I was the only one lol

Yeah? Can't hit a target without a light or a dot?

@@thefrogking481 Being able to identify your target is a good thing, so yeah, flashlights are important.

@@thefrogking481 Yes because shooting at something that you can't see in the dark is a great idea.

At least you'd know you're not sending your dollars to F'n China! Or does that not matter to you?

@@thefrogking481 Bruh it doesn't matter lol a good product is a good product no matter where it comes from .

2019 is extremely generous.

Yes, for a proper mil-spec experience 😆

But it's made in USA

Euro optic has it listed for $369

@@justiceforallthepeople2642 BuT iTs MadE iN tHE Us

@@justiceforallthepeople2642 all those surface mount electrial components made in the USA are they ?

@@justiceforallthepeople2642 it’s *assembled

Where's your better design and technology?

@@Havoc_762 Holosun makes optics that mops the floor with this one as far as features, especially the 508t X2

Considering it has less functionality than optics half the price, that better be one hell of a durable optic.

It's called you keep it on

agreed

$369

How do you know it's not as rugged?

@@Justin-rq6kf lets be honest this is eotechs first optic for a pistol. I'm pretty sure it we'll have some problems at first but they will fix it. Look at trijicons pistol red dot line. Almost everyone will pick a rmr or sro over anything else if they have the money. Because it is more trusted. Ya eotech makes good optics but for there first red dot for a pistol there's going to be some issues. That's just my opinion.

I want a green circle for a pistol sight. Imma use it within 10-20’ at most. I want to see it well and fast. I don’t care where I hit inside a circle when I dump 6+ rounds (accounting for some misses) into a torso sized target with 2.5 seconds.