Ep. 111 - Choosing a PRC Cartridge 

Thanks guys for an excellent and entertaining discussion. One thing I would like to have heard you mention would be the optic/reticle choice on your personal rifles.

I had bought both the 300prc and the 6.5prc in anticipation of the 7. The 300 is definitely Thor's hammer! With a little weight and the right muzzle brake, the recoil is very manageable. Im currently working up a load for the Barnes 208gr LRX bullet but would love to try the 190CX. With that being said, the 6.5 is my baby. Its everything I want. In fact I will probably build a 2nd rifle in that caliber. The 147gr ELD-M has been devastating on everything Ive shot. Looking forward to a 7prc build for a friend very soon. Thank you for your continued work and development on these new cartridges and these high BC bullets. Its making long range shooting easier for the average person.

I bought a Fierce 7PRC and it’s shot great so far. Haven’t shot it past 300 yards yet though. I’m starting to have some serious questions about Horbady’s stated box velocities. There are a lot of people out there showing 150-200 fps lower than what Hornady says it should be shooting. Very concerning

Yeah Im on the same page with recoil. Between the 6.5 and the 7 would be My druthers. Probably the 6.5. Being that I'm getting older.

Going to swap one 7 mag to 7 PRC

I’m most impressed with the 6.5prc. I own a 6.5 and 7. The 7 would be great if it easily did what was claimed (3000fps) but I’m at 2835 with a max load of h1000 with a 175gr bullet. I’m honestly more impressed with my 280ai. 300prc I see zero advantage over a 300wm for hunting. Just my honest opinion.

Not impressed with any of them when you have to replace barrel I will stick to my 308 and 06

I still like 280 Ackley Improved....such low recoil and really gets out there

I shoot a 6,5 PRC as hunting and sporting caliber in a Ruger Precision Rifle here Germany. I dont mind the weight as my hunting is from a high stand for safety reasons (angle toward the ground) only and the walk to that is seldom more than half a Kilometer. I need a minimum of 6,5 mm bullet diameter and the 6,5 PRC compliments my 6,5 Grendel. Great Podcast as always. Greetings from Germany 🍀👋🏻.

I loved my 6.5 PRC, but then the 7 PRC got announced and yup re-barrel my 338 win to 7 PRC and man is that just sweet.

Crazy CASH!! for a BOX of AMMO 6.5 Prc should NOT be over $30 DOLLARS!! SMH

NA!! No thanks, I'll stick with 375 H and H parent case cartridges and my tried and true 30/06 😂😂

300= one ton truck, 7=3/4 ton truck, and the 6.5= a 1/2 ton truck.

25 PRC as my number 1, but 338 prc is a dang close second!

So basically moral of the podcast, if your having trouble deciding which PRC you want just go with a 30-06 😂

I have both 6.5 and 300 prc. I love them both, but I always seem to pick up the 6.5 for everything including elk. My max range is 600 yards personally

I really like the Eldx and Eldm and the the A-tip. You guys are making great bullets and great ammo. I feel like you being a little bit disingenuous about how your bullets perform. The Eldx is a great hunting bullet. It makes a big wound cavity… but it doesn’t retain weight like a bonded bullet. You have to know that? And you can’t tell the difference in the wound cavity between an X and an M. Why don’t you share your ballistic gel test info? You have a great bullet. Quit pandering to the old school guys that want retention. Just sell them your mono.

The problem isnt that hornady is optimistic on velocity, its that their box velocities are flat out overstated and unattainable. Numerous videos of YT channels shooting 24-26 inch barrels that still fall 100+ FPS short of the box. Hornady, if you read these, that's flat out unacceptable. Do better.

When are you guys coming out with the 45-70 PRC 👍🏽

I know 300 prc is 300 win mag but modernized. Now modernize 50 bmg

You help me choose the right prc cartridge for me: one of each

225 eldm out of my 300 prc going 3000 fps(26” barrel loaded with max load of lrt off hodgdon 1-8” twist) flatter than the 180 eldm going the same muzzle velocity. Checked with 4dof. With a 7 prc you just need a 30” barrel to hit box posted velocities. It’s sad to see that the 7 prc doesn’t hit advertised velocities. Will you add the 6.8 western, you mentioned the .277 prc as an option, it would just be a remake of it.

.277 ***P R C********----270***PRC******6.8 WESTERN---IS GOOD--NEED MORE RIFLES

Seth, you said it, and I agree. I "HAVE ALL THREE". working on load test/development on the 6.5 this weekend. All my PRCs have two load solutions; one for a CX and one for either the ELDX or Berger VLD.

I love 300 PRC! If you don’t own a magnum 30 cal that’s the cartridge to go with!

I am looking forward to that 338 PRC!

most dont use a ten pound rifle when hunting that is heavy so more recoil for most. a decent length with a can yes. half mile is 880 yards not 800. as for tge 300 PRC who needs it or wants the recoil? very very few for most the 6.5 is plenty who gets an elk tag? or needs something for bears or moose/bison? few need more than the 6.5 with that CX bullet. if you have a 7 rem mag maybe tune that. for many a 6.5 with a smaller calibre for varmints and similar will cover most things they do and need. the 6 creed or an old 243 with classic stock or a 222 even.

Are there more PRC calibers coming? .338 PRC? A modern .338 would be great.

A 338 PRC would be great.

If you're a one gun kinda hunter, go with the 7 PRC. You might be a little over gunned for some things and maybe a little under gunned for other things, but it'll do the job for most things. If you want 2 things, pick up the 6.5 and the 300

Make a 6mm prc 105 grain @ 3300😊

7 PRC that will run in a Short Action AICS mag.

no one i know would even consider these abortions of the gun world! whats wrong with 7mm rem mag or a 300 win mag? they have been killing big game very efficiently for years without fail! this new shit doesnt do it any better! prc loads are a joke for any serious shooters!

So they all suck compared to my .264 Win Mag, thats 70 years old. 😂😂😂 useless.

338 PRC then, 375 PRC

Per the podcast request. Please neck the 6.5 down to 6mm PRC to create the ultimate Midwest coyote/deer combo. Also neck the 7 PRC down to 25 for a Western Laser Beam and up to 338 for an All Around Alaskan Cartridge (focused on 225 CX and 230 ELD-X). Also I will use this platform to continue to plead for the reintroduction and support of the RCM cartridges 😊

My vote for the next PRC would be .338. Please!!!!! And I wont ask for anything for Christmas for the next decade…

🤣 No...My "Thor's Hammer" is The Real "Thor's Hammer" (408 Cheytac Necked Down to 30 Caliber)! 💪 Also Known As The "Lightning Lowney"! ⚡

All the PRCs not just these three lol. I would love to see .338 PRC be the middle ground between 338 win mag and 338 Lapua. Shooting a 250 grain plus CX would be awesome.

Great video, love yalls podcasts. I guess my only question, right now Hornady has a factory hot rod in the 7RM, (that I have) with the 139 gr SST at 3240 MV, any thought to adding that weight to the 7 PRC, then that would truly cover everything from groundhogs to elephants lol in the 7 PRC. Thanks again for doing these podcasts.

I'd like to suggest barrel contours and dimensions as a topic for a podcast, specifically the question of what barrel contour do you need as you move up in cartridge size? The Remington Varmint/Sendero (Proof Sendero Light) is very popular, but has a very short shank which may not be ideal for large magnum cartridges like the 300 PRC. We've seen issues in testing carbon fiber barrels with these larger and more powerful cartridges. I notice that Proof no longer offers barrels in Sendero Light contour longer than 22" for 7mm and up. What's your recommendation on barrel contours and material for larger, more powerful cartridges like the 300 PRC, 300 NM, etc?

I think a 25 PRC would be a hit.

50 prc would be great 😊

Thors hammer is the 270 win with a long throat will heavy bullets. That one is already taken boys.

Thanks for this Hornady Podcast. It was interesting to hear the perspectives from each of you. My cartridge proposal would be something along the lines of similar velocity to the 6.5 creedmoor in 7mm option. I have heard people doing a 7-6.5 PRC wildcat, but it would be nice to have a factory option. I also think it would appeal to those who don’t think 6.5 is enough, but also want something with a bit less recoil.

7prc is an awesome cartridge really is but why do u lie Hornady about muzzle velocity YOU WILL NOT GET 3K FROM A 175 ELDX PERIOD 2,870 from a 24 inch barrel for me but yet a 170 grain federal terminal ascent hit 3,040 in the same rifle so please can someone from Hornady explain this been asking on every video but still no comment from Hornady

Maybe its time for some bookends for the lineup. Id like to see a .50 PRC and a .22 PRFC ( precision rim-fire cartridge) 😂

I think Judd and I have the same issue. See if you can get a 7 mm with the recoil and ballistic similar to a 280 Ackley improved. Maybe use the 65 PRC case

Just buy them all then there’s no debate

The 300 PRC with a muzzle break is Thor's Hammer with manageable recoil. For me the 300 PRC does it all for hunting from brown bear to elk to deer. No such thing as too dead. However if I need a light rifle that I need to carry long distances and I am not concerned about dangerous game, 7mm PRC all day long. I am so glad Hornady invented the PRC line. The three PRC calibers is like to going the garage and pulling out the right modern vehicle for the job, car, SUV, pickup truck. I am having so much fun shooting the 300 PRC Begara HMR I have now. Once your scope is zeroed and your ballistics is dialed in, it is like cheating the shooting is so easy. Thank you for the PRC lineup.

I already had a 6.5 creedmore and a 300 win mag. Didn't own anything in 7mm so the choice was easy. 7PRC. It is likely I will own all three eventually.

I love my 6.5 and 7 PRC’s but man, the 7 has been just a little disappointing when it comes to performance. Accurate as can be but with a 22” barreled rifle it’s a bit weak. I’m getting almost 200fps less than advertised out of the Outfitter 160gr CX loads (yes I know they were tested/advertised with a 24” barrel)

I'd like to see a 33 prc.

I fell in love with the .300 PRC I got two of them both with brakes the HMR is a factory muzzle break the other has. Salmon River muzzle brake. It's on a wilderness Ridge about 1.5 lb lighter than the other and my grandson loves shooting it as recoil is reduced by +90%.

I am a big fan of the 300PRC.

I really think if you guys re launched 338 rcm as 338 prc it would take off today. Everyone wants a short suppressed rifle that’s plenty of medicine for elk out to 500 yards

I have a savage tactical desert in 6.5 prc and i love it. I kind of want to build a 300 prc now.

375 prc? 408 prc? 8mm prc?

I want a to buy a 300 prc I’ve been shooting a 7mm mag for the last 5 years and have no complaints but I would love to get a 30. Cal magnum. I hunt Alberta mule deer and Elk in the prairies and some of the mule bucks are easily 300+ pounds and it’s not uncommon to shoot 500+ yards so to have that extra payload of a 30. Sounds really nice

I can’t help but stare at that wrinkle in the background lol.

The factory ammo is really slow. Hand loads are slower than Hornady published. Since i don't have a 7RM I don't regret the purchase of my 7PRC. I did lose respect for everyone at Hornady that continue to lie to us.

Ok, so I should get all 3?

What about any thing with a 277 prc cartridge

Very curious to hear your guys’ perspective on the future of the WSM family now that the PRC line up is getting so much attention. Have your lab guys ever tried lengthening the throat on the 300WSM to get those longer bullets to work in it? Any chance it could give the benefits of both the 6.5 and 300 in one cartridge?

Great discussion 👍 I just bought a 6.5 prc barreled action for a precision build. I did about 3 months of arduous due diligence for making the decision. I have a 300 WinMag, 7mm Rem Mag as my "big guns". With the choices in factory loads and especially with developing hand loads, both of them will do anything I want to do, at the cost of recoil. I want to get into the LR target arena and I just didn't feel like my 25.06, 22.250, 7.08, or.308 win were capable of being competitive even with load development. There's just not a selection of really high performance projectiles and with the case limitations, I figured I should get something made for the task. Would it be fun to have a 25cal prc? Sure, but it's basically a 6mm and we've already been there and done that. A 270 also occupies an in between area plus with the 270wsm, what you don't like about the regular 270 can be achieved. It would be cool if better projectiles for some of the existing calibers were developed, that would be fun, but I get it ; for the cost of R&D you probably would never make the money back or they would be cost prohibitive for the consumer. I think you guys did exactly what should have been done, by taking 3 popular and common rounds and working them to the endth degree 🤙 Thanks again!

277 prc please

I have the aero precision solus rifle in 6.5 prc and boy oh boy does that thing hammer like none other.

375 PRC…. Hahahahahahaha! Just kidding, I actually listened to all the episodes!

All i want is cheap large rifle primers and 165gr SST.

I think the 6.5 is the best all around hunting round of the three. Short action for a light rifle, least recoil, and basically 270 (or better performance. That’s a winning combo. I also think a 7mm on the 6.5 case would be cool. And maybe a 338 on the 300 case.

338 PRC the 300 might be Thors Hammer but we want Zeus’s lightning bolt!!!

25 PRC!

25 PRC with an C.O.A.L of 2.800. So it will fit in a short action. With a 120 grain ELD X.

For my purposes here in Alberta, and I've hunted BC a lot, the 6.5 would do fine, a 7 would too, but, a either would have to be in a carefully built gun with the right stock on it. The stock makes more difference than most people would ever believe, design and material it is built in matter. Can't have suppressors here, no use for a brake, so it'll be a 24" bbl either way. I'm not running out and buying a PRC, don't need it, I have used 7-08 on everything up to moose, had 7RM's and a 338WM and 450-400NE, still have a 300H&H too. The go to now is a 30R Blaser, will test out a 6.5CM,, the 7-08 and the 300 are there, if I want to use them

I took a mighty fine elk with the 7mm prc at exactly 507 yards ran ten yards and fell

I went with the 7mm PRC with a 22" barrel. I chose it for versatility. From pronghorn to brown bear, I think this could do it. Are there better choices at those extremes? Sure. But is there a better choice for doing ALL of that? I doubt it. I haven't shot anything but paper with it yet. Shot some of the Precision Hunter but I have a box of Outfitter I want to try. I would love to see a 25 PRC! (In a true short action, rather than the almost-short action of the 6.5") Something like that might put my 25-06 out to pasture. And maybe I'll get a 375 Ruger for that brown bear.

😏 I Love Your CX Bullets, But I Have To Use Up All My GMX Bullets First! 🤪 And, That May Take A While! 🤣

I have a question about powder selection for the 6.5 PRC to keep the velocity up in the 2900 to 3000 fps range. What is your choice H1000 or RL26?

Your two guests both said they had "gotten rid" of their 7mm Rem Mag rifles. What was their reason for that?

Short action, least recoil, I live in TX, the 6.5 PRC does everything I need and then some.

I love the 6.5 PRC but struggle with the crap Hornady brass primer pockets. I have taken a break from it for awhile. Load development trying to get good velocity was killing brass in 2nd loading. If i loaded for brass life i was basically shooting my Creedmoor. Also the Hornady 140 OTM is a more accurate bullet than the eldx or m imho.

The performance that people get out of the PRC line in short barrels is impressive as well. A 6.5 PRC in a 16.5 inch is impressive considering the less than ideal barrel length.

I’m waiting for the 338 PRC😂

I have all three. 300 PRC is just magical, mine and all my buds that have one all shoot lights whether they are factory rifles or customs. The 7PRC has a ton of promise just haven’t shot it much. 300 with a brake is easy recoil but the 7 with a break is very low recoil.

I love my 300, put a can on it and it is a baby. Just purchased a 7 interested to see how it does always been a 30 cal guy. I shot the 7 through Chrono an at 6.5lbs its got plenty of recoil. Was disappointed in 2810 when its suppose to be 2975, 22 inch barrel so don't think it would have lost that much in 2 inches.

Mind blowing how many of yall are pleading for cartridges that already exist.

The 6.5 is amazing for hunting deer in the open spaces of Montana!

I shoot the 6.5 PRC. It groups the ELDX a little better than the 147 match bullet. I hunt with the match bullet-it just works near and far. Thanks Hornady where would we be without y’all!

It would be nice if Hornady would give accurate ballistic data and not deliberately mislead people. In the 7 PRC, if you have to change powders because of a supply chain issue and your original powder is unavailable for you, that is fine. But don't keep the same label on the box showing 3000fps muzzle velocity when you know it will only generate 2800-2850fps. And this was knowingly and intentionally done. Very dishonest of you Hornady.

For me the 300 PRC, as I have all reloading equipment… But a 7 would also be nice… maybe when one of those barrels are through.

the best catrige ever made for everything is the 8x57

So does anybody worry about the box ballistics? I never make any decisions off of box ballistics except BC efficacy. So spend the time to bring YOUR gun to the capability it has and enjoy showing what YOU done not any manufacturing company. If it’s disappointing sell it or give it to someone that shoots better than you in completion. Lol

338 prc would be a great dangerous game/guide gun cartridge

What if your boss told you that your check would be a certain amount, but when you got it, it was 5-8% less. Would this level of dishonesty still be ok with you then? And in the case of the 7 PRC factory ammo, people are spending their hard earned, honestly earned, money on to purchase your product, that you are knowingly selling under false pretenses. What a crying shame for an American company, in the firearms industry at that, to do such a thing. Mistakes are one thing and are understandable, but it's totally different when it was done intentionally.

Bullets wernt as good 20-30 years ago?? The nosler partition was introduced in 1948 and is still a better bullet than any bullet Hornady makes today especially the eld-x that can’t hold on the even 1/3 of it original weight on a lil whitetail deer!! Hornady makes some very accurate bullets but they only make two hunting bullets that’s worth a dang the gmx now the CX and the interlock and I’d still take a partition over both for anything bigger than a deer sheep goat size animal!! We have went backwards in the bullet world when it comes to hunting! The bullets today are not built to hold together like a bonded,partition, or interlock these high BC target type cup and core bullets are terrible for bigger game like elk moose and so on these bullets seperate core from jacket and just fall to pieces when you hit any bone at all now try to run that same bullet through a big elk or moose shoulder and you will see what I’m talking about these bullets won’t go through those big shoulders and then we got people wanting to take these same bullets and try and punch a shoulder at 1000-1500 yards all because of podcasts like this hyping up cartridges and bullets that arnt capable of what there tying to claim they are!!

Just shit! Marketing bullshit! How about making the already cartridge's out they're affordable again! These "new" rounds are nothing special and are just driving up the costs of the rounds we already have

What are the odds of a 6mm PRC getting developed? Love my 6.5 prc, but think with the types of bullets come out these days and the 6 creemoor having similar ballistics to the old 243 just being able to utilize new bullet designs better, I would love to see a 6 PRC hit the market and be able to push a couple hundred more fps out of the case.

Would love a .277 prc. I've been a huge .270 fan for years.

Great podcast once again. Its great to listen to other people's experiences , options and for sight . 22inch 7PRC could be the winner for me . ....... My 25PRC is like lighting with the 134 Hornady Eldm !!!

I wish you guys would just be honest with your customers and admit hardly nobody with the 7 prc is hitting 3000 fps, it's pretty hard to trust you guys about anything when you keep saying things we know are just not true.