One point which is always missed in such discussions is that China's super growth was driven by State controlled capitalism. No protests, no dissensions, land simply acquired where required and the fear in the contractors to complete projects in time. India is a functioning democracy with a humongous population. Political agendas, activism, dissent at the drop of a hat, pushback of all kinds. Our growth will be gradual or at best on track. Those who celebrate the China growth story always miss out on this single, critical dimension which made much of the difference.
Whatever you said are 100% true, but maybe why we are feel its missed is because its a missed opportunity of India even when China started to outpace us starting 1950's we never realized until we opened up in 1990's. So even if we are a democracy we saw enormous growth that happened in last decade that if it had happened post independence, we might already be an India of 2047 that we imagine today. Jain hind!
@@SriramNarasimhan90 China's growth story started in 1979 under Deng Xiao Ping. Our economic liberalisation started in 1992-93. One critical component of China's Ultra fast growth was that the Communist Government dictated the path to State Capitalism. Nothing stood in the way of say infrastructure projects. And for the first 20-25 years they became Factory to the world with cheap labour. All big MNC companies set up factories in China. The CCP being the only political party controlled everything.
This question was asked to Shri Arun Shouri, disinvestment minister in Vajpeyi government comparing China's growth as against Bharat's. And he answered in the same way as mentioned here! and I am also of the same opinion!
@@SriramNarasimhan90jai hind jai hind... Chnai don't politics, no praise but China rise is not incremental so fast i dint know hie to say but india is incremental.. How can we compare with China that is exponential.. Wake up
In the past 30 years in China When the government acquires your land, for 99% of the people it's THE once in a life time opportunity you climb up to the higher level of economic social ladder, because the government pays several times more money than the land or property is sold in regular way.
I have been following ANI podcast with Smita Prakash ji for quite some time now and I think that the whole discussion, its length and its pace, its gravitas and its levity, are simply on point. I simply prefer these podcasts over all others. Kudos!!
I wholeheartedly concur with Mr. Saran's viewpoint that Bush Jr. was undoubtedly the best American President for India. His policies and initiatives towards strengthening India-US relations were exemplary and unparalleled, which has benefited India in numerous ways.
God, I dont know how I have missed listening to this person in so much time. Absolute gem. The Talk Shop banter and the 5th Beatle banter were the best😂😂😂 Lots of luck for Raisina and this time I will follow it.
This guy is a very irritating fellow. He is so rude that during this year's Raisina Dialogue he was interrupting the guests so rudely, he has no manners. An idi-ot masquerading as an intellectual.
@@Xyz.xyz.xyz.xyzzzzzz totally agree, he is extremely annoying, very uncouth. The way he treated his guests at Raisina Dialogue was revolting. He is an uncouth idi-ot.
India has to emerge as a civilization state which functions as a Continental economy where different parts are moving in Coordination with Speed and accuracy towards the same goal.
Why you are keep on interrupting 1. It breaks the flow of conversation 2. It change or switch the subject in its entirety I understand u want to ask and have opinion about 1000 things but please let a topic get over or atleast conclude before giving new que
The Raisana Dialogue programme is of a very high standard, we are privileged to watch it in RU-vid. Mr Saran is very smart, sharp and articulative. He was seen in commanding position as a curator. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
On a side note, i feel it would be better if you could in the least acknowledge the person serving your refreshments during the taping with a basic "Thanks" or in the least a "smile with a nod" if you feel the flow of conversation will be interrupted. Ignoring that person completely while you have your grandstanding conversations on where India is now shows that we as a society still have a long way to go to fully embrace "Dignity of Labour" at even the top rungs of society. And this is coming from a person who completely agrees with the nature and scope of this podcast. No offence intended to either Smita or Samir. Fully support Raisina Dialogues to become a global phenomenon that eclipses even Davos.
Smitaji, you should invite General Syed Ata Hasnain for a podcast. He was a GOC of Corps in Srinagar and has extensive knowledge and experience to talk about the excellent work done by our government at Pakistani and Chinese fronts.
Actually it is this guy Saran who is an abject idi-ot. This guy is very irritating. He was so rude that during this year's Raisina Dialogue he was interrupting the guests so rudely, he has no manners. An idi-ot masquerading as an intellectual.
Although the Observer Research Foundation (ORF) may seem to be a mere foreign policy think-tank, actually it's far more than that. In the last ten years it has emerged as the sole agency that is behind India's foreign policymaking, similar to the Council on Foreign Relations in the US. As a result of that India's foreign policy is now consistent and is unlikely to be effected by changes in ruling parties at the centre. Which has its own benefits as well as drawbacks.
@@GuzzarAwan Like they've “decided” the fate of Russia? But last time I checked, Russia was doing well and it was the US-proxy Ukraine which was in a disaster, its entire young generation is now likely gone.
This is not only think tank. There are many. One started by son of ajit doval. Then there IDSA (institute of defence studies and analysis) now named as manohar parrikar IDSA after his death.
@@sangramraje5667ORF is a western puppet agency to keep Indian minds colonised through their puppets like this Saran guy. His entire group is full of western puppets.
When Dr Jaishankar retires, Samir should get the top job in the Foreign Ministry. Clearly, PM Modi is fond of him & vice versa. He’s a smart smart man & can fill Dr J’s shoes 🇮🇳
Samir may know a lot about the world but Dr. Jayshankar is a class apart. The later knows geopolitics about specific countries that matters the most to Bharat. Also Samir talks a lot which makes him a very bad candidate to replace Dr Jayshankar. You only answer what is asked and also know what and how much u need to disclose.
Outstanding podcast with the brilliant Samir Saran. I thought I knew ‘something’ but this podcast showed me I know nothing and there is so much to learn! 🙏🏾
An excellent conversation (bravo) and have inspired me to attend Raisina dialogues next year. I am pharma data scientist and interested in cooperation between India and Switzerland in this area. Hope to have more talks in Pharmaceutical and health equity sector for the Raisina dialogues 2025.
Could listen forever to these deep insights by someone who knows😂😂and has dealt practically and operationally.... Brilliantly compared by Smita... Well done😊😊😊
This guy is super ultra optimist with barely few bases..Seems like he was desperately waiting for India's growth to start so that he could shine himself on its sidelines..
Grease is where the Principes of Democracy evolved. The separation of Powers into 1. Legislative 2. Administrative and 3. Judicial Powers of Government was propounded. Sabay
Please stop interrupting the guest everytime. This has become the norm now in ANI podcasts. Please don't break the chain of thoughts of these guests. Mr Saran was interrupted multiple times when he was about to share some juicy info!
This is was a Mutton biriyani with deserts and a large Tamil Thali meal on Foreign policy and global leaders and thinkers look at it .... superb podcast...on the content and what i could learn and understand. I saw this podcast after I had seen the Munich dialogue where Samir was discussing Viswamitra- Ex-PM Canada, KSA Foreign Min, EU , Havard think Tank and our very own Dr Jai Shankar. One small concern, Smita ji ..you seemed to have put on weight or seems little unwell. Pls take care . I love all your podcasts and enjoy them , share them.
Amita, Your podcast interview with Dr.Samir Saran is very invigorating and enjoyable. I think your proficiencies in English made me think why the Indian Politicians are still hesitant to adopt English as the Magical Language that binds the diverse States of India and the World 🌎. Sabay
Mr Saran, I think you are reading China's presence at MSC wrong. Chinese foreign minister was given the prime slot without having to share the stage with a panel. India's FM had to share the stage with others. That shows where China is placed on world affairs. Time to put the head in the sand is past, wake up Mr. Saran.
There is another way to look at it. China stands alone today, or with the countries who are also isolated (Read Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea etc). Whereas Indian foreign minister shared the stage with US and German counterparts - the most powerful country, the most oowycountry in Europe and the largest democracy in the world. It is just point of view.
US was also given the same treatment. VP Harris had a solo presentation. Does it mean US is isolated? Not in the least. Germany and EU countries lick US like they are pet dogs.
What an engaging discussion! Sameer's grasp of geopolitics is truly impressive. He articulates India's perspective with remarkable ease and eloquence, consistently leaving me in awe. Sameer, your insights are truly commendable and greatly appreciated. Keep up the fantastic work! Regards and Love - Anil
स्मिता जी.. कोशिश करिए की आपके सारे podcast हिंदी में हों.. जिससे की ये बातचीत और इनका महत्व अधिक से अधिक लोगों तक पहुंचे... सिर्फ अंग्रेजी में इसे बनाकर आप इसकी अधिकतम जनता तक होने वाली पहुंच को संकीर्ण कर देती हैं।
Dr Samir made a very valid & brilliant point that - India is a continental economy and should have its own FTA. I fully agree with him. All the states should immediately jettison the narrow, parochial तु,तु, और मै, मे attitude and come together as a nation and promote the economy in a wholesome manner. 👋👋👍
Let the guest speak. It’s annoying to the listener to have the two host competing to disrupt the conversation. This is not a family evening competing to put one another down.
I appreciate the gentleman guest...a future EMA perhaps as he had d best approach which is to give a response/answer at individual level...ie d reply must to human 2 human level to hit the message home!
It's all interesting to listen and imbibe real-time flight of indian Diospora over indospecific to asean shore with every clarity and oratory excellence by Rilesima Dialogue exponent Dr Saran with Prakash team
Yes Samir, Europe is on the ropes. Germany and U. K. are in recession, Ukraine is mired in war, and the Russian economy is doing well. Samir makes a good point about the European anxiety expressed in throwing out the incumbents in power and, may I add, the growth of the rightwing nationalism.
How many can hear the actor Farhan Akhtar talk , when Dr.Samir Saran talks .. Mr Saran seems to have the same tone and voice or even spoken mannerisms ( not sure how to put the similarity .. ) it feels quite similar !
The internal security dialogue should be hosted in Kolkatta or a place in WB. It would not only bring economic benefit to the population but also offer a healing touch to the population.
So easy way out viewers want to see differences. Question is “why difference get more viewers?” Answer is “When you have agreement no further discussion needed. When there is difference discussion carries on and coverage continues and viewers see different opinions. Hence, viewership is more.”
Smita Ma'am😭 Recently a Jizya tax only on the Hindu temples was imposed by Congress in Karnataka. Please make a video and spread awareness of this biggg issue please please i beg youu 🙏🙏🙏🙏 And because of this reason some Hindus think of not donating to temples... But that's a worse case where Hindus stop donations to temples... How will our culture and temples be strong and survive if people stop donations 😖😖😖 So please do something and do podcasts on this important matter so that government removes such tax impositions on Hindus temples and if it still imposes then it should be charged from other religious places as well!! Please i beg u do something about it 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🙏
I think they spoke about nuclear deal with US, Indian relation with previous US governments etc. the thing is Raisina dialogue as he said in the podcast started sometime in 2013. So the talk about Raisina is largely post that
Hello team, Thoroughly enjoy these conversations. However the host must consider toning down on interruptions as the guests get cut out on their thought flow. I understand that when someone is as senior in the profession as Smita it is a hard ask as they are already polished but please consider this as a feedback with good intent. Cheers.
I am glad that the question of the green card was brought up. It's becoming frustrating as someone called out, just getting laid off can potentially disrupt your whole life and you can never plan long term as well.
I don’t think the world thinks the way India thinks of itself as a power to reckon with. Even if the world does think so, I wonder if we have been given the due importance that we deserve. Have we been made part of the G7 even though we are more qualified than most members there? Are we given countenance in the world security meeting in Germany? We are being courted the west as a bulwark against the Chinese so that we will fight their war, with their equipments, at our cost, for their benefit. This is because they have understood the futility of war after so many wars and want to prey on our ego to manipulate us. Does the UN with all its security council members, barring China, support India’s addition to the security council? The answer is a vociferous no. We are gloating over a little leeway they have given us to bring us around their mindset misreading it as our growing importance. Wake up and smell the coffee India! You are useful but not important as you think you are, as yet.
We are useful and want to become powerful. We know when nations try to play a smart one on us. It's the global and our national. Capability which will keep China at bay but only for some time. We need to run marathon and become a strong country. Opportunity is there, play all sides and secure your rise avoid conflicts and block politics. Look inwards and protect your interests. Keep eyes awake and feet on ground.
No need of coffee for Krishna. We need to learn, understand and navigate through current world and make our people prosperous. Arrogance has no use in dharma
We are doing what we think is good for us and we are doing good for everyone and it will return multifold. So we haven't arrived yet but we are in the right direction. No West hasn't given us anything willingly but we are snatching our rightful place. You wake up and smell the Coffee and see that India has got a place on the table.
Nirbhaya Case, very unfortunate and sad, and being stationed in Dhaka then, all expat friends were convinced that INDIA is not just unsafe for women but any woman venturing out was bound to be easy fodder.....So much was the amplification of an unfortunate and sad event.
Samir says that many in the Raisina Dialogue Conference 2024 realize that the NAMO Government is poised to come back, and some don't relish the idea. But, the West should get used to the idea of Bharat is what it is, and the much admired EAM Jaishanker's are in your eye type with no apologies.
@Ishaan Prakash brought an important point about H1B and green card and he needs to know that it’s much more than the 60 days issue. Even for green card India born people face a discriminatory 100+ years where some one born in Pakistan or Iran gets it in couple of years
