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Ep. 161 | Sightmark Wraith HD vs. Wraith 4K Max

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On this episode of The Late Night Vision Show, Hans and Jason compare the specs and real world hunting abilities of the Sightmark Wraith HD models and the Wraith 4K Max. These two affordable scopes are by far the most popular and best selling night vision scopes to ever hit the market. While the HD’s and 4K Max are all in the Wraith family, there are major differences and strong points for each of the three models. On this episode we discuss these differences and offer up our opinion on which model might suit your hunting style best.
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@fowllab 3 года назад

Good show again, you guys hit on a lot of good points with the differences and are spot on. I will agree on the HD being very easy to use and to setup, the 4K does have a lot more options to choose from in the menu, and can seem overwhelming at first, but after taking some time and playing with the controls it is not that difficult. I have had the 4X HD since shortly after they were released and have really enjoyed it. I mainly use it for nighttime coyote hunting, bought the 2X HD and it works well for daytime woodchuck hunting. Just got the 4K MAX maybe 6 weeks ago. And I will say the picture image is amazing, not that the HD is bad but the 4K is clearer. A couple things I have noticed between the HD and the 4K while using at night, is if you zoom the HD it can get grainy/ pixelated really quick compared to daytime mode and the 4K will let you zoom more before getting grainy/pixelated. I believe that is partly because the 4K seems to gather more light or is more sensitive to the IR light along with having better resolution. I will agree with the statement about budget when choosing between the HD and 4K. I really like the 4X HD and can honestly say, you can not go wrong if you choose the HD model along with the base magnification that suits your style. One last comment about the mounts. The American Defense mount is very nice and seems to be holding zero with no issues. I was lucky enough to have won one thanks to Outdoor Legacy , The Late Night Vision Show and of course American Defense. Sorry for being long winded Jason.

@tripledfarmsmaple 3 месяца назад

Should have known you all had a video comparing the 2. Google landed me here anyhow. Thanks for another good video!

@TheLateNightVisionShow 3 месяца назад

Thanks for watching! We appreciate you

@tonybennett4922 3 года назад

Great honest views guys . I'm currently in the market for one of these Wraiths , the more I learn I think the HD suits me best . Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪👌👌

@PineknotterJim 8 месяцев назад

Great video gents! I’m new to this thing in the 50’s crowd and appreciate your perspective and knowledge sharing! Well done!! 🤜💥🤛

@cm927477 3 года назад

Got the HD 2X from yall with the SHL 66 and love it. Coyotes don’t stand a chance. I hunt with a guy that has a $5k thermal and I can complete just fine with the sight mark night vision.

@tuomasholo 2 года назад

This is high praise. Thanks

@chadlajoice3852 3 года назад

Great show guys! I have the hd 4 power that I use the sniper hog 66 on. I was lucky and won one of the American defense mounts you guys gave away and it is a really nice mount. I also have the bolt action mount. I love the setup. If anyone has questions call these guys. They will take the time to talk and answer anything you want to know.

@anewzack78 Год назад

This is a great discussion. I was REALLY in between them as they're about $200 difference. I think I'll up the ante for the 4k :) not bad for $600 imo

@TheLateNightVisionShow Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@PiperX1X 2 года назад

Really great informative video fellas and found it really helpful and just ordered the 2-16x 28 today as it is on offer at £298!! yeh that’s what I thought they’ve got the prices wrong but ordered one rather quickly, anywhere else they are around the £600 mark over here in the U.K. but just wanted to say thanks for your video helped me along to decide.

@Sertao2013 2 года назад

On the 2x HD the specs show the mildot reticle as the long dashes as 1 mil but to make it correct you have to figure your distances as a 5x magnification regular scope . To make it the same as a 10x magnification you have to make each long dash as 2 mil spacing . It seems they changed this on the 4x specs on the sfp setting of the reticles they list it as the long dashes as 2 mil spacing . So with the 4k 2x scope when its set on 2x the mildot reticle is a 2 mil spacing .

@freedomfamily1358 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for what yall do i will continue to buy from yall

@TheLateNightVisionShow 7 месяцев назад

Thank you so much! We really applewood it. 😎

@kevinroberson1985 4 месяца назад

I run 4 / 2000 mah batteries in my wraith 4x32 and my IR has a 18650 that has a 5000 mah battery in it. It works very good and I have never had any problems with it. I have quick detach clamp levers and so far they hold zero . and I have a battery bank just for back up if I my need it.

@kevinroberson1985 4 месяца назад

P.s I have better clarity on black and white mode or phosphorus because I can see clearer this way instead of everything green all around .

@TheLateNightVisionShow 4 месяца назад

Good deal! Glad to hear you have a setup that works well for you. Good luck and keep up the good work. Oh and we agree about that back and white mode!

@bluerebel3186 3 года назад

Great show guys! Thanks for the information! I have an original Wraith and I am gonna upgrade to the 4k for better quality!

@outdoorlegacy 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the show. When you get ready to make the upgrade we’d love to have your business.😎👊🏼

@j.r.w6623 3 года назад

Awsome video maybe someday I'll go to the 4k but I love my 2-16 HD great video guys

@raymonshores4257 2 года назад

How far can u see and shoot. I have the 4x32 but up close it sucks. Im thinking about 4k or the x2 hd

@wagstag89 3 года назад

Great info. I just ordered an AMG TM15 thermal monocular and I'm considering pairing it with the Sightmark HD 2x for night time hog hunting in Louisiana. My shots will likely be 150 yards max with 7.62x39. Thick woods and swamps here but I'm baiting them into some fields that border the wooded areas.

@raymonshores4257 2 года назад

How do like the tm15? How far can u see and identify?

@wagstag89 2 года назад

@@raymonshores4257 I love it. It was better than expected. I would say for a being able to make a quick ID between a deer and hog, 200-250 yards but it's useable at much farther distances. I watched my neighbor walk across one of his fields one night and I could clearly see him at 600 yards or so. Even at those longer ranges you'll know whether it's a small animal or something larger worth taking a look at but you'll probably need to get closer that 250 yard range or so to make a positive ID. Where I hunt the TM15 is perfect and I've located, stalked, and shot 11 hogs so far

@streeval841 8 месяцев назад

I know this is an older video but I recently took your guys recommendations and I bought the max and then I came across this video later and saw that there was a Wi-Fi capability on the scope itself and I was wondering if they finally did make a app for that and also wanted to thank you guys for being very thorough andthoughtful of all aspects of all the products you guys talk about

@TheLateNightVisionShow 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! We hope you made your purchase from Outdoor Legacy and supported Hans and Jason for all their hard work on the reviews! There is no wifi streaming app available for any Wraith model and Sightmark disabled the wifi option via a firmware update in the 4K max. Enjoy the scope!

@chuckratliff2474 3 года назад

great show guys

@mathewt767 7 месяцев назад

I bought the mount for a bolt action

@InWithBothFeet 2 года назад

I'm looking for a night scope to put on a 22lr for shooting mice at 50-60yds.. The magnification will be mostly maxed. The 4k looks like what I need.

@TheLateNightVisionShow 2 года назад

There is also a new Wraith 4K Mini 4x model that we just got in a week ago. Give us a call and we can tell you about it as well.

@InWithBothFeet 2 года назад

@@TheLateNightVisionShow Thanks, looks like the mini takes a pretty good hit on sensor resolution, which I assume will have a negative effect when I'm looking at mice on 24x. I'm still on the fence. Worth the cost... or not. We shall see.

@ngaoutdoors4157 3 года назад

Very informative videos as always!!🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍

@andrewdisney8475 2 года назад

Great show! How do I find a tripod setup for my KS-47? I have the Wraith 2-16 x 28 and it's SWEET! A 100+ yards is plenty for the 7.62x39 round and I need more stability?

@TheLateNightVisionShow 2 года назад

Here is what we use….. outdoorlegacygear.com/products/kopfjager-k700-amt-tripod-reaper-grip?variant=29213129572426

@freedomfamily1358 7 месяцев назад

Hell do like me get a 2 and a 3 😂

@TheLateNightVisionShow 7 месяцев назад

That’s a great option.lol

@shanecapser9679 3 года назад

I might give you guys a call sometime. But I know im gonna buy the wraith HD. But what light would work best for me/how do I decide will do best for me. Im progressing more into coyote hunting. Im from the midwest. Im using a brand new custom AR chambered in 223/5.56. And maybe the furthest shot id take at night in 200 yards. But I can spot em from 800-900 yards with normal led green light in the few spots i hunt. Id like to be able to see them come in from that distance if possible with my ir light/wraith.

@rafestephens1852 3 года назад

Same here. I bought the coyote cannon from sniper hog lights. I haven’t fully gotten it mounted how I want but just playing around with it it’s a TON better than the one that comes with the scope.

@blizte3 2 года назад

Is it first or secondary focal point scope?

@Longshothawk 3 года назад

With this type of digital night vision how does a full moon affect how far you can see? Will it provide enough light to see farther than an ir illuminator?

@outdoorlegacy 3 года назад

These scopes don’t draw much ambient night time light. It might help some on a really bright moon night but you’ll still want a good IR with it.

@catherinefarr3140 Год назад

I"m sorry gents but why not just bluetooth the thing and forget wifi? Where I hunt in Australia, there is no wifi.

@TheLateNightVisionShow Год назад

No night vision or thermal scope manufacturer uses Bluetooth. They use wifi but I think the confusion is that it’s just using wifi from the scope to your phone as a connection technology. There is no internet access on the wifi, it’s just a connection method between the two devices. You can be in the middle of the Sarah desert and it still works. It’s using the wifi technology like Bluetooth because very large video files transfer much easier and quicker over wifi. So you don’t need wifi where you’re hunting. It’s confusing to many. I’d suggest talking to your scope dealer and they will be able to show you how it works.

@catherinefarr3140 Год назад

@@TheLateNightVisionShow Ok, thanks very much for that. I will definitely backtrack the manual and look into it.

@macq1980 3 года назад

The only thing i dont like is the tiny screen.

@mikecross2435 3 года назад

Are you guys those weirdo's that boil the craw fish and add the seasoning after they come out? If so, and you want to learn how to do it properly, a good old boy from Louisiana would by happy to teach you. Great show as usual.

@outdoorlegacy 3 года назад

You will have to take this up with my father in law from Franklin and my brother in law from Eunice. I just boil them the way they taught me 20+ years ago….seasoning them in the water AND when they come out. 😎

@ashleyrowe6087 3 года назад

@@outdoorlegacy 🤔.

@SR8CReliant 3 года назад

I've heard the Wraith gets grainy with age exposure to daytime light use. Is there a way to prevent this? Is the graininess repairable?

@TheLateNightVisionShow 3 года назад

I believe you’ve been given some incorrect information. The Wraith uses what is essentially a high end digital camera. The Wraith image will not degrade over time any more than you’d expect any digital camera or video camera or even your cell phone camera to degrade. It sounds like someone might have been confused and somehow mixed up the Wraith with traditional tube based night vision (Gen 1, 2 or 3). Traditional NV does get darker over long periods of time but even this takes many years to happen.

@SR8CReliant 3 года назад

@@TheLateNightVisionShow Well that's just awesome as hip pockets on a hedgehog! I'm gonna start saving for one. You never know what you're reading in blogs anymore. Thanks, fellas!

@TheLateNightVisionShow 3 года назад

Thank you!!

@rickysmith2248 Год назад

These batteries are lithium batteries correct?

@TheLateNightVisionShow Год назад

correct!

@jjfore0921 10 месяцев назад

I shouldn’t be watching this video… I just bought the hd version…

@TheLateNightVisionShow 10 месяцев назад

Yes sir you should have watched it BEFORE you bought. Or called us first.haha

@jjfore0921 10 месяцев назад

@@TheLateNightVisionShow it’s Amazon… I’ll just return it. Do you sell them? If so send me a link.

@TheLateNightVisionShow 10 месяцев назад

Hey the Wraith HD is a great model. We don’t like returns so we don’t want to push that on any other retailer….even our sworn enemy Amazon.lol The HD will likely do all you need it to and more. Next time you’re looking for something give us a look first, heck give us a call. We’re happy to help and we’d love to have your business. outdoorlegacygear.com

@mathewt767 7 месяцев назад

The hd is the way to go

@suburbanprepper 3 года назад

What are your thoughts on traditional I2 nightvision scopes like a gen 3 AGM Wolverine?

@suburbanprepper 3 года назад

I own the older Wraith, but thinking of getting a rifle nv scope like the Wolverine

@Woodpusherpro 3 года назад

Completely different systems. I think if you know how to use and care for a generational NV setup, especially 3+, it will far outperform these digital NV.

@suburbanprepper 3 года назад

@@Woodpusherpro yes, I have 3 pvs 14s and a pvs7. I'm not interested in recording shots and use for other reasons

@Woodpusherpro 3 года назад

@@suburbanprepper I looked up the Wolverine and it is only Gen 2+