Ep. 18 How to Install Snare Wires

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We've all fidgeted with our snare wires, whether after purchasing new ones or replacing a snare side head or maybe just in pursuit of a better sound. Getting snare wires installed properly can sometimes be a challenge and if it's not done right, getting a good, consistent sound from your snare drum is incredibly difficult.
In this episode, we demonstrate our mounting methods for a set snare wires with a strap on a modern Tama Starclassic snare drum vs. mounting wires with string on a vintage 1960's Ludwig Acrolite with a Ludwig P83 snare strainer in order to maximize the usable tension range so you can adjust your batter and snare side tension without needing to do more than dial in the snare strainer tension. This isn’t the only way to install wires but it’s what’s worked well consistently for us and is the approach we’ve taken with all previous videos showcasing snare drums.
Hosted by: Cody Rahn
Production: Ben O'Brien Smith @ Cadence Independent Media
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@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

What's your preferred snare mounting method (straps or strings)?

@LevinL 6 лет назад

Straps, since 1. I find they're a lot easier to install 2. They won't dig into the edge of a drum (only really a concern on wooden drums) nearly as much since they disperse the pressure over a much larger are. Just my 2 cents :)

@Tyler_Wilson 6 лет назад

Whatever the drum originally comes with, I usually just stick with that method. The manufacturer must have shipped it that way for a reason..? That’s my thinking! Cheers

@DreamyBongos 6 лет назад

Strings. I am unable to line up straps for some reason.

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Always worth experimenting though. You'd be surprised to know how often drums ship with certain OEM gear that doesn't allow the drum to function at it's best. Heads and wires are at the top of the list for that. Thanks for watching!

@vaquilina 6 лет назад

Strings have always been my preferred method as I've had trouble seating (plastic) straps in the past. Once they've got a good kink in them, it becomes difficult to adjust them without replacing them. Those nylon straps appear to be much more functional though. There's also something cool about using string, I guess since it's sort of old school. Great channel with excellent, knowledgeable and articulate hosts and top notch information. Thank you!

@CFChristian 6 лет назад

Went on RU-vid to watch videos of Norm MacDonald, stayed here instead.

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Hahahah, I mean Norm is great too, would hate to cut into his viewership :) I'll go watch some and even it out.

@CFChristian 6 лет назад

Sounds Like A Drum 😂 Good man.

@victor_wang_1 Год назад

Gosh I wish these videos were available when I was a kid. So so educational. Thank you for your hard work.

@DumireDrDrum 3 года назад

heating the end of the string will make it like an anglet.The way shoe strings are.

@gmoney1592 6 лет назад

Great video. Snare wire installation and adjustments can b tricky sometimes . This was a good review and demo. Thx .

@tmaddrummer 6 лет назад

How timely, as earlier today I was struggling with a 69 Sonor D424 with strings... but I won that battle! That's a "square" knot that you tied, and is very strong and reliable too! Another great video Y'all!!!

@j3llyman7 4 года назад

I’ve been playing guitar for 8 years and recently decided to learn the drums, needless to say I have no idea what I’m doing and these videos of yours are extremely useful! Thanks so much

@catfishmudflap 6 лет назад

Wow! I have an Acrolite. This really helped

@hkippOH 7 дней назад

Cody, first let me say thank you for all you and the Crew do,... much appreciated. I have a question about mounting wires with string on a vintage 1960's Ludwig Acrolite with a Ludwig P83 snare strainer like in this Video. What string are you using and where can I get some of it at ???? It looks like it ties easily with an even PULL on the wires. Most of the string / cord I find is a little on the "thick" side and when I tie it, it becomes unbalanced or un-even on the PULL of the wires. (very annoying to deal with). Thanks in advance for any help. GOD Bless

@monzprod 4 года назад

Hi guys, I'm a lucky owner of an Hayman Metasonic, but I have a problem. Can you recommend an effective way to tie the strings to the butt end and also to the strainer with a self-locking knot?

@HGH44309 6 лет назад

Another really good video. You’re channel is gold! I never had too much trouble with adjusting snare wires though. Even if I mostly play an acrolite from the 70s. But the George Way “beer tab” throw off really is a pain in the butt, imho ;)

@RA2Music 6 лет назад

Jimmy Jazz I concur, I use a Way beer tap on a vintage Kent I fixed up and that drum is, in general, my most difficult drums to tune up to my liking. The six lugs also play a big part in that as well.

@chrisostomosargerakis8662 2 года назад

Wonderful content, thank you for sharing!. Do you have any thoughts/opinions of pro's/con's of using a Puresound 30 Strand snare Wire?

@Michael127gerard 6 лет назад

Thanks for the video, Another expertly presented and put together video. I've noticed different brands and types of wires have different endplate designs. For example Fatcat wires have 2 basic endplate models, pitched for snares with shallow or no beds, and a non-pitched models for snares with deeper beds. Yamaha endplates appear to be pitched as well. Have you found any general guidelines when choosing a set of wires and mounting options for a given drum with a particular style of beds ? Obviously the width of the snare bed dictates how many strands it will accommodate.

@TimBuell 5 лет назад

This is a great video. I make a living playing drums and this process is still the most confusing process ever. Haha

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

Thanks Tim!

@zackharp7648 5 лет назад

Man, I wish would have watched this vid yesterday! I played a gig where I just COULD NOT get those snares engaged and was forced to play the gig with what was essentially a garbage can haha. I thought it was a tuning issue, but just turned out my snares werent applied properly to the drum (it was my first time applying snares on my own)!! But now I know, so thanks for saving me from future trash can gigs.

@Gazuka 6 лет назад

When I have my snare wires installed (puresound custom so they have cords), the snares rattle even when the throw off is off. The snares aren't overly tight as well, so does that mean that it's an issue with assembly of the wires, or is it the throw off?

@PerfectIn3anity 5 лет назад

Thank you so much literally the only person that made sense when taking about putting snare straps on I thought my heads were out of tune and kept on taking my heads of and returning over and over but your method now I can finally here the snare when my drum is right side up

@nez1703 6 месяцев назад

Hey guys, I have a question! I have a steel Yamaha snare with the same pure sound wires. An Evans technician in my local shop helped me set it up last weekend with new wires, batter and resonant head. Sounded gorgeous. I keep my drums in the garage where the temperature fluctuates (UK Winter/Spring). I went to play last night and the noticed immediately snare wires had lost a lot of the tension and didn't sound as clean when trying to add tension to the strainer so I ended up loosening them off and trying to re-fit them. My question: Can the strap ribbons stretch with temperature/moisture or is it more likely that they've slipped through the tension mechnism? Love your channel.

@DadRockAndGuitars 4 года назад

Very recently bought a new Pearl Export kit (I'm not a drummer) and the snare sounded terrible no matter how I tuned it. Weird resonant buzzy sound. I removed the snares to see if reseting them would help and this video was very helpful in showing me how to put them back on. Pretty straight forward, but it's always nice to watch someone else do it that knows more about it. Snare is sounding better! 😁

@conorm9575 3 года назад

thats why i just buy shells then buy my own heads... the heads they put in stock kits always sound so bad to me

@tmsdrums 5 лет назад

Thanks loads for this and the many other videos. I was struggling with, of all things, the type of knot to use when tying off nylon strings. Your solution worked simply and perfectly.

@jjfloyd618 Год назад

Excellently informative video, thank you guys. I have to wonder now about the design element of all those holes in that throw off mechanism though. Was it Ludwig’s intent to drive drummers mad trying to figure out which of those holes they should be using and why? Imagine all the different ways one could experiment with (or obsessively waste time with) to tie the snares off with that thing.

@jeffreywegener8841 2 месяца назад

Ok . I’m looking for stuff because I bought a mint condition early big R Rodger’s cob .

@craigcollison7448 4 года назад

I have a drum with a P-83 strainer on a Ludwig snare drum. The stainer locks up when you release the snare from the head. Is there a way to fix this and what causes this problem ?

@iLikePhilly 2 года назад

this video sucked... all of my worries away! thanks man!

@michaelchen4324 Год назад

hey, i just got the exact same snare wires and when i hit my drum the snare wire buzz is terrible. its only really when i hit the snare. it goes away if i put on moongel or a big fat snare drum donut cover. why could this be

@Catinthehackmatrix 6 месяцев назад

The string on pet food or even cat litter looks thick enough for a snare wire strap rig up. Also old blinds have strings, but are thicker.

2 года назад

Is it just me or... I happened to adjust everything perfectly and then decided to tighten the reso head even more. I had to readjust the snare wires again since they were not at the equal distance from the snare bed after that.

@rhythmista7707 4 года назад

Nylon or plastic straps are best. Nylon string is unreliable and can deteriorate over time with tuning and constant disengaging of the snares on and off ..

@theopinson3851 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for this! Just picked up a vintage Acrolite and it needed new snares but I had no idea what to do with those holes lol

@tracktuary 5 лет назад

Do you have a preferred model of snare wires for jazz? I currently have Canopus Vintage Dry wires on my Yamaha MCA snare based on some recommendations, but I don't really dig the sound. It's a little too bitey (mids high?) for me. I'm not sure if it's the wires, but it consistently sounds like when using different tuning approaches as per your videos. I want articulation, tone, and warmth.

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

Yeah those particular wires are suuuper articulate and can be a little sharp-sounding for my taste (i've had two sets over the years). I personally only really use two kinds of wires (apart from if i'm just using whatever came with the drum) I use Puresound Custom Pro 24 steel for a wider/softer sound and Puresound Blasters for everything else. Don't be scared by the name, the Blasters are way versatile and much closer to older steel snappy snares that i've found on vintage gretsch or ludwig drums in terms of the thickness/stiffness of the wire. There are also 20 strand Custom Pro's if you want less wire sound, but with any of the sets I mentioned you should be able to get a great jazz sound with proper snare side tuning. Good luck! - Cody

@paulgeorgmusic 4 года назад

I have a question. Do you guys have any experience with modern Gretsch drums? I have a gretsch brooklyn snare drum I find the throwoff is hard to fixate which makes it really wonky when it comes to installing and positioning the snares. Do you have any advise in regards to this? Thanks for the wonderful work!

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Yes! I’ve actually encountered more than a few issues with the Brooklyn series when they were released. I don’t recall working with the snare drums. However, if the snare mechanism is working as as intended but still is providing issues, I’d recommend replacing it. We’re big fans of the throw-offs from INDe. -Ben

@MrStayPufffft 4 месяца назад

I don’t even need to change my stuff and yet here I am.

@BryceChristopherHodge 6 лет назад

Just like when I was first introduced to the playing of guys like Vinnie Colaiuta and Virgil Donati, the more I learn the more I realize I don't know. Thanks, dudes!

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

It's certainly an ongoing process. Cheers to you for embracing the journey!

@glytch5 4 года назад

wait a minute... are you not supposed to tighten and loosen your snare tension with the strainer open? I always took the tension off with the strainger, and then adjusted tension, then closed it up.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

There's no hard and fast rule with that. In some cases (often depending on the strainer) it's difficult to do it with the tension engaged. Still, I've yet to see any damage or other negative effects from adjusting tension while the strainer is still on and then you can hear the subtle changes smoothly as you alter the tension. -Ben

@Pawsey66 6 лет назад

Awesome video guys! It would be cool to see one about hoops and how different hoop configurations voice the drum differently. Cheers!

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Thanks so much! Hoop comparison videos coming soon. Cheers!

@gbirdo4718 5 лет назад

Where should I put the snare adjustment if they’re a one on the butt plate side AND on the snare switch side. I have a Tama SLP Bubinga and there’s snare adjustments on both sides. I changed the stock snares but I’m still having buzzing issues and it’s really discouraging and frustrating. I don’t know what I’m doing and I watched this video 100 times. I really can’t get the sound I want and I’ve literally been messing with it all day. I jut want a good metal crack but it’s soo ringy and buzzy.

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

I hear ya, yeah those can be trick. Honestly if I had one of those I'd probably just tighten the butt plate side up all the way and pretend like it's the non-adjustable kind. I'm not 100% sure what the need is for adjustment on the butt plate side as well (other than maybe to have some wiggle room for making sure the wires are centered on the head after installation). Based on the sound issues you're describing it's probably more of a snare-side head tuning/leveling issues than the wires or that mechanism but hard to say without seeing it in person. FWIW, i've also purchased snare wires that turned out to be defective right out of the box once or twice. It's uncommon but it can happen (damage in shipping etc), might be worth taking them off the drum and laying them on a table to make sure they're not twisted or anything. Good luck! - Cody

@davegink9222 4 месяца назад

What is your favorite snare wires to use on your Acrolite?

@bacobill 6 лет назад

Great video thank you so much :)

@testabeatdrums 6 лет назад

I love doing exactly what you guys mentioned. It really give the drum the ability to perform at its best. A problem I run into just with other people is using string or nylon. I had someone rip on me for using nylon because they said how bad it was for the bearing edge and drum head. Also in some ways this may be true I have never had a problem with it when setting snare wires correctly onto the drum. Could you guys give some insight into this. Thanks as always keep killing it see guys!

@gibrandogg 5 лет назад

Hi. I have the same acrolite and have been struggling with the strainer . i believe that is the ps 83. I was wondering if a newer strainer would fit my snare drum without having to drill a hole in it...

@BuckAugust 6 лет назад

Good tips, especially on starting loose and then adding tension. I typically prefer grosgrain ribbon. Very inexpensive and effective. I was surprised you didn’t hold up the drum to check to see if the wires were level. Do you find that necessary at times? Thank you for sharing!

@elijahfaith7480 Год назад

thank you so much for this tutorial..I just bought some 1963 ludwig snare wires 18-strand...and I remember seeing this video 5 yrs ago..so I went back to this tutorial to help me put this on my 1966 acrolite the correct way..and the sound is so amazing, clear, bright, crisp sound! I LOVE IT! THANK YOU SO MUCH ..SOUNDS LIKE A DRUM😁👍🏻..WITHOUT YALL US DRUMMER S WOULD BE COMPLETELY LOST ON ALOT OF THINGS😂😁👍🏻🤟🥁🥁

@Eurodrummer666 6 лет назад

I am currently experiencing wire problems I never had before on my Sonor Protean and my Pearl Ian Paice. I get a really high pitched nasty feedback from the wires, and I don´t know what to do. It is partly resolved on the Sonor, because its wires are less (8 strands) and shorter (31,50 cm instead of the usual 33 cm). Any advice you could give?

@smokeybeardco 3 года назад

Perfect!! Just what I was looking for. I have a vintage Ludwig set and the wires need replacing. Thanks for the info 👌

@adamkeay2388 6 лет назад

How does the number of strands of wire affect what sound you get? As well as what material they're made of? Phosphor bronze vs steel?

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Hey! In theory, more wires = more snare wires sound and less = more articulation. Depending on your snare beds, you may be able to use 42 strand wires with great articulation, or get a fat pillowy sound with 16 strands so it's not exactly a law or anything, more something to be experimented with a little to see what your drum likes. Regarding material, I've found that the gauge (thickness) of the wire used to make the snares has a much larger effect on the sound than the actual material. Thicker = louder/aggressive, thinner = warmer and more sizzly.

@adamkeay2388 6 лет назад

Cool! Thank you! You're doing great with this new channel by the way, appreciate the videos and the reply!

@Dekutard 3 года назад

followed ep.1, the snare problems video and this video... STILL my snare sounds like crap 😭 m beginning to think i damaged it by fussing so much with it.

@arnylanda 5 лет назад

Hey Sounds Like A Drum, great video, great channel!! For many years I used a strap, but I think it's useful to know both methods. What about a Dual Glide? The Sonor snare strainer system, it uses string and have two adjustment knobs: in the mechanism and another in the butt: I must also loosen that other (how much?) or I must leave it as is and simply install the string...? Thanks a lot!!

@jebmcgovern3744 6 лет назад

I have found I could be most creative with the ludwig p86 millennium throw compared to the P83. Because the arm of the P86 sits perpendicular to the drum, as opposed to parallel like the P83, mounting my snare with the throw at my 6:30 (or right between my legs) allows me to engage and disengage as I drum. Whats more, engaging sounds like a ghost note or a predelay on a loud crack. While improving I am able to use my snare as a shallow tom for long sections and just drop in two cracks at random then release the throw again as i bring my arm down. You know the sound the snare makes as the wires are engaged. Just imagine using that as a note before a snare crack at about the speed/tempo of cocking a shotgun. I need to do a video cause I cant find anyone else doing this and I think folks would like it. It's fun and it makes the missus roll her eyes at me which means she loves it..... I think.

@1920sman 5 лет назад

The vintage snares such as your Ludwig, were made for wire wound silk snares - rather than a snappy snare (although they work as well). For that authentic sound try this company who still make the old style wires www.ak-drums.com/Snare-Drums/Snare-Wires-Accessory.html. For a really vintage sound use gut or cord snares, but I think you a drum built for those.

@jkanusky 6 лет назад

Is there any drum throne out there that doesn’t make creaking noise? Great video 👍👍

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Not sure but if you find one, let them know they should send it our way 😉

@RA2Music 6 лет назад

I use a Gibraltar 9608SFT Softy Drum Throne and it has never squeaked on me in almost 5 years of rigorous usage. It is a pretty heavyweight throne so the fittings are really well made really helps. It has a plush 5 x 14” top (yes, the same size as your snare perhaps) and nice, wide rubber feet. Both provide a super stable platform for playing. The piano screw adjustment let’s you dial in the height precisely. One concern, though not for me, in its lowest possible position, the seat is a bit high. I am 6’ tall, so not an issue but shorter players may encounter some problems. Hope this helps you out Josh, good playing.

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Ha! Thanks for the recommendation. I love my trusty Roc 'n Soc though it could probably use some love as I've had it for 15+ years and it's been all over. Cheers! -Ben

@korolev-musictodriveby6583 5 лет назад

A new one !

@user-br2sx6lf5d 4 года назад

Thanks for this video. You guys are the best!! Just finished resetting my snare wires and also used the video on reducing snare buzz. Finally my drums sound good!!! Keep up the great work!! Thanks again! :)

@The_Other_Ghost 2 года назад

Next do it with a Nobel and Cooly strainer.

@sergedurand6519 6 лет назад

For some reason my ludwig supraphonic's P85 throw off uses cross-head screws plus I've nylon strings on that drum, boy is it hard to change those snare wires.

@lmarkarth9090 2 года назад

Do you put the soldered side against the bottom head? (The side with the prickly bits)?

@SoundsLikeADrum 2 года назад

Yes! But always double check to make sure that there aren’t any sharp points (anything that could pierce the snare reso) protruding. If you discover something, you can file it down with a metal file.

@U2WB 2 года назад

This (as with all of your other videos) is very helpful and informative. I’ve been struggling with a vintage Premier steel shell snare that uses holes on the strainer, and my biggest issue has been that the leading brands of snare cord seem to be laquered. This makes it very difficult to tie a knot that stays put - it doesn’t settle as a string would.

@TsunamiBeefPies 3 года назад

I have an early 70s Ludwig Super Sensitive Snare. The one with the bar running through the center, that raises and lowers the wires, rather than pulling them tight. I would absolutely be over the moon to see a video addressing working with that mechanism.

@Josh-fu3mf 4 года назад

Thank you for this video. I was dumb and overtightened a reso head on my spare snare drum and it ripped. I ran out and bought a new head and had to remove the snares for the first time ever. This video helped me get it back on quickly and have the snare drum back in action. Much appreciated!

@todds6048 4 года назад

Those Puresound straps with the clips are TERRIBLE!!! The clips never stay put. As soon as you cycle the snare on and off a couple of times... the clips slip through the holes in the snare wire end plates, and either ruin or dent your reso head. They also prevent the end plates from seating on the head properly. Really poor design. Neat quick release concept, but terrible in practice. Just my opinion.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

We've strongly disagree but this is dependent on them being installed correctly. The majority of the time that I've heard of issues with these (and I use to receive the customer service inquiries when I worked for D'Addario) the issues came from improper installation. The clips will not slip through the end plates if they're properly positioned to sit within the beveled portion of the plates. The clips shouldn't come in contact with the head at all and, as a result, shouldn't prevent the plates from properly contacting the head at all. -Ben

@todds6048 4 года назад

@@SoundsLikeADrum ... Thanks for responding, Ben. I sincerely gave these the old college try, and actually had them on my snare for almost a year. However... my snare started to sound wonky, and flipped it over to discover that one had slipped through the end plate hole. I loved the concept of these, but after installing them a few different ways... I still could not prevent them from coming through the endplate holes. Maybe an installation video on this would be cool???

@kevinaman8266 3 года назад

I have a question. A couple of months ago I bought a 24 Strands snare wires, but by watching a previous video on your channel it seems like this wires are for a snare with no snare bed (Like the Tama Starclassic on your video) but my snare is a Mapex Armory Tomahawk and a Ludwig Epic and both have snare beds. Do you think that if I put this on any of my snares it would affect the sound in a dramatic way due the fact that both have a snare beds but this snare wires are designed to snares with no snare beds? I really need your help

@SoundsLikeADrum 3 года назад

Hey there! I think you’re gonna be fine, 24 isn’t that wide of a wire set. Once you cross 30 strands and especially at 42 you start to have the snare bed design really affect the behavior of the wires. Give them a try! - Cody

@kevinaman8266 3 года назад

@@SoundsLikeADrum thank you so much!!!

@merlin704 5 лет назад

I gotta say, I've watched a few of your videos and i find them extremely informative. Subbed. :)

@LevinL 6 лет назад

Very informative as always! Although I found that starting with the throw-off side allows me to perfectly position the snare wires in the center of the drum before tightening down the butt plate side, by slightly tightening/loosening the throw off

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Thanks! That's the best part- if you've found something that works for you, then that's great. We both choose to mount from the opposite end first since that side will remain static with regards to the distance from the shell, allowing us to focus on the tension on the strainer side. Regardless, what matters most is making sure that the wires are centered once tension is applied. Cheers!

@Jake-NerdyUpNorth 5 лет назад

Thanks for the video, I’ve never really learned how to do any of the set up stuff properly. They should teach that in drum lessons.

@eekitsniek 6 лет назад

Quick tip: If you wind the knot on the throw off one more time around the wire, the knot won't loosen again.

@SpittinSquirell 5 лет назад

Great great video. I think this is the scariest thing for a lot of drummers, especially new ones.

@robroymacgregor7279 5 месяцев назад

My Pearl flotation free snare is really confusing to adjust the strainer, please help

@alanlydiarddrums6049 2 года назад

Best snare-replacement video I’ve found!. Thank you!

@linebum2112 5 лет назад

It's called a square knot! Your channel is very helpful and informative. You're very easy to pay attention to. I never drift off when I'm watching. I can sense the passion and love for these instruments.....appreciate it greatly.

@glennvelarde9033 5 лет назад

Would it be too much of a bother if you show us a video installing and tuning a Rogers Dynasonic Snare drum? I find it a little complicated with the presence of a snare frame to hold the snare wires.

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

Neither of us have a Rogers Dynasonic but if Rogers is interested in having us do a snare spotlight video one the reissued drums, we would certainly dive into the snare wire mounting and fine-tuning. -Ben

@glennvelarde9033 5 лет назад

@@SoundsLikeADrum Thanks

@raymondebert8552 6 лет назад

Great video as always. How about a video on the different types of wood used for drums and the tones they produce.

@lamanonegra8380 3 года назад

Another amazing episode! What are the dimensions of the Starclassic?

@TweezerBleezer123 4 года назад

Man this helped sooo much! Thank you!!

@hondacivic7793 3 года назад

These videos are so easy to understand and they always work! Thank you for making them!

@markbader4942 2 года назад

That be a square/reef knot, Boy Scout, good job!

@SoundsLikeADrum 2 года назад

😂

@ClaxtonDrums 6 лет назад

Awesome video as usual guys! My question to you is if you have a tension knob on the butt plate as well, would you recommend making that as loose as it can go too? 2 of my snares have this and I would love to hear your feedback. Thanks!

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Oh, like there are tension adjustment knobs on both ends? Hmm, I think I’d probably put the secondary one at the midpoint and just treat it like a normal passive butt plate. The thing you want is some room on the mechanism to adjust tighter or loose and for the wires to be centered on the head when engaged, so I think that’d be the way to go. Plus with that kind of mechanism, you can adjust the centering of the wires by loosening one end and tightening the other incrementally. Pretty cool :) - Cody

@ClaxtonDrums 6 лет назад

Good point! Thanks for giving me your feedback, Cody! Cheers!

@nilangasudeshweerasinghe7479 5 лет назад

Please tell me witch note we should tune the snare drum? I mean the standed tune Thanks

@samopaik8695 4 года назад

Can you guys do a segment on super sensitive type strainers?

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

We don’t have any drums with super sensitive strainers so it’s going to be a little while but we’d love to address this topic at some point.

@CaptainsOrders 5 лет назад

great video, thanks for the info. i am re-doing my snare wires and heads after years of neglect and needed a refresher course lol. your thoughts on the Noble & Cooley strainer, with classic rope as opposed to straps? I have a 4x14 N&C and replaced the recently snapped string wchich resulted in a broken strainer after 20 years of loyal service.

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

Hey there! I’m pretty into strings for most of my snares including my N&C, but have had some good luck with straps at times. Currently I have 20 strand Puresound Blasters on mine, attached with strings. Works great :) - Cody

@Dekamate 6 лет назад

Great video, super helpful. Do you need less wire strands the thinner the snare bed? My Vintage COS snare has a very narrow snare bed, 20 strands seem to buzz a lot. Should I try 16’s?

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

I'd say yes, definitely worth a try. Maybe even 12's or perhaps a narrow 'orchestral' set. If the contour of the head (because of those narrow snare beds) forces any of the wires away from the surface or makes the outer wires feel loose compared to those in the center, i'd look into something more narrow. I've seen some modern drums that are going for the vintage feel and vibe, Joyful Noise for instance, that at times use very narrow crimped snare beds and I saw first hand how much changing the wires can change the drum in this regard. Good luck!

@nairbas392 6 лет назад

5:16 Is that a WFL Buddy Rich Snare Drum in the background there?

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Nope, that's a 60's Ludwig Pioneer. We'll feature it in an upcoming Snare Spotlight episode.

@joerico9461 5 лет назад

Excellent video thank you for your time

@Eurodrummer666 5 лет назад

The annoying thing with those Puresound pins is they can move, so you can´t really have the same wire position beneath the drum...

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

I've never had a problem as long as they're installed properly but I know people who have had issues. I'd like to see a revision to the design that removes the need for the cotter pins, which can still be fussy. -Ben

@ralphbenites1312 5 лет назад

Straps. I do have string on my Ludwig sometimes it’s difficult to see the small holes on the throw offs I also use shoe string dress shoes 👞

@rushxanthemtcg5607 4 года назад

You should look at replacing the throw off and butt plate to the p88. Drums on sale makes a version with the butt plate tapped so it adapts to the p32 butt plate.

@Sudoyle 6 лет назад

What about strategies for centering the snare wires once on the head and engaged? I find that to be pretty important to get a good snare sound/response and its always a struggle.

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Absolutely - it’s super important. I don’t have any specific tricks, I just pull on the wires or strap that’s on the mechanism side after the butt plate side is mounted and cinched down and look at where that end of the wires lands on the head when it’s under tension. Cheers! -Cody

@Hercules_Mavromatis 5 лет назад

When I set the wires they sit flat on the snare head, but when I tighten up the straps at some point the right side of the snare wire bed is a little bit in the air and that causes them to rattle even if the rest of the are super choked, what's the solution to that ?

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

Sounds like the straps might not be straight. Check to make sure that they're evenly mounted on both the butt and strainer side. -Ben

@paulmietty7643 2 года назад

Great tutorial!

@jimorlando5700 6 лет назад

Great video, consider adding an overhead camera to allow us to better see what you’re doing.

@michaelclement5255 5 лет назад

Is there a different technique if you also have a snare that the butt plate also has a tension adjustment?

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

Not really, you just want to make sure that when the wires are installed and under tension, you still have some adjustability on both sides (neither side tightened all the way) -Cody

@CharlieSteinerDrums 3 года назад

Thank you!!

@DoeTheJane 6 лет назад

Aw, man did I struggle with this when I changed the snare side head for the first time. I wish I had great videos like this back then! Great video as always, guys :)

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Cheers!

@ToddTheJoker 5 лет назад

thanks guys...would love a episode of you guys or gals playing a bit

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

There's much more in the way of performance demonstrations in our latest season. Cheers! -Ben

@extramile734 6 лет назад

nobody seems to mention what side of the snare wire is up.

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

It’s shown in this video but generally speaking you want the side with the wires soldered to the end plates facing towards the snare side head. -Ben

@extramile734 6 лет назад

Thank you

@Eurodrummer666 5 лет назад

Just a funny midnight thought: what about using strings AND straps? It might be difficult to have an even tension of the 3 devices, but it could be interesting to have a "perfect" tension of the wire strand from its centre (with the strap) and the edges (the 2 strings). Alright, maybe I´ll feel ashamed tomorrow morning about this comment.

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

Hmmm, interesting concept though there tends to be one option that has the best angle for tensioning (this is something we’ll cover in a future vid).

@Eurodrummer666 5 лет назад

@@SoundsLikeADrum mmm I guess this is going to be the strings as it seems to be the preferred method in your videos. Personally, I struggle to get get equal tension on both sides, and it is rumored to damage wooden shells...

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

@@Eurodrummer666 It's a little tricky but we've got a method that works. Also, strings are always the way to go- this really depends on the design of the wires as well as the snare strainer. As far as strings damaging wooden shells, the blue wire that Puresound used to sell was definitely capable of this but the woven brown cord doesn't seem to produce any problems: www.puresoundpercussion.com/PSPProductDetails.Page?ActiveID=4896&productid=3&productname=Dark_Brown_Braided_Line

@Eurodrummer666 5 лет назад

@@SoundsLikeADrum Nice alternative, i wish this brown cord will be imported in European shops soon! About this method to attach cords, have you mentioned it in an earlier video?

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 лет назад

@@Eurodrummer666 It was buried in a video we did previously on snare wires and/or snare side tuning but we'll cover it in a real-time setup video coming soon.

@ericmeader9171 5 лет назад

Thanks for the help it worked great

@ricosalomar 6 лет назад

I'm surprised to hear that you like P83s so much. I never cared for them. On my recently acquired cherry 1970 Acrolite, I replaced the throwoff with a Dunnett, though I kept the P83 and the original heads and snares.

@gibrandogg 5 лет назад

Does the dunnett fit that snare? I don't care for the ps-83 either...maybe ps 86?...

@rushxanthemtcg5607 4 года назад

@@gibrandogg he's confusing the p83 with the equally bad p85.

@federicozanoni817 6 лет назад

Thanks a lot for this video, Cody and Ben! I just went back again to watch your first tutorial and decided to tune and set up my snare from zero. This helped a lot, I had so much fun tuning and installing snare wires, and my snare sounds so much better now!!! The only thing I still found a bit tricky is listening to the overtones to get the pitch of the drum even, but I guess it's just a matter of practice...

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Glad to hear it! The best thing that you can do is practice tuning and ear training in order to identify the pitches at various lugs, the interaction between batter, reso, and snare wires, and the overall sound of the drum. You'll definitely find yourself improving with time. Cheers! -Ben

@federicozanoni817 6 лет назад

Thanks for the reply, I'll keep studying and exploring! Is there any specific ear training exercise that you think could be beneficial for this purpose?

@pedroahets 6 лет назад

Very usefull information as allways, thanks!!!

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

Thanks for watching, Pedro!

@stanpiecuch7432 5 лет назад

Very helpful...thank you!

@henrysherman8848 6 лет назад

What is your preferred snare wire to eliminate snare and tom buzz?

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 лет назад

We touch on this a bit here in Ep. 11: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l7Hkk3YID9M.html A lesser quantity of snare wires will cut down on the snare presence to a certain degree but controlling the buzz has a lot more to do with experimenting with pitch relationships between the snare and toms as well as the setup for the snare drum. To a certain degree, there will almost always be a bit of crosstalk, and that's okay.