EP 29: How To Tell The Truth (Ft. Preston Perry) 

If it involves the Perry’s I’m watching 🙌🏾🙌🏾

Wow. He 888888 when he said “asking God to destroy all evil is asking God to destroy us” wow.

I loved the part where Preston said: "Boldness is not doing what men are afraid to do, boldness is about obedience. Boldness is about being obedient to God more than it is about being fearless before men." Like WOW!! That is so true 💯 Obedience is truly better than sacrifice

I just wanna say, I like how you switched up those icebreaker questions after Jackie’s feedback 😂😂😂

Books recommended: This Momentary Marriage by John Piper What Jesus Demands from the World by John Piper The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel

As an occupational therapist who loves God and work with kids with disabilities, I had the same questions about salvation for people with disabilities. The more I get to know God and work with these children, I see there is hope here on earth and in eternity for people with disabilities. They just need us to meet them and love them where they are at right now🤍 Psalms 139:13-14

Megan is a good interviewer. She asks really good questions.

Preston be TEACHING!!! 🔥 I learn something new about the Father every time he is on record. ✋🏽🤚🏽 God bless him!

"If you think GOD🤍-BEING A GOD🤍OF LOVE, WON'T DESTROY EVERY thing HE HATES, you don't know what LOVE IS." 🔥 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🙌🏽

The Perry’s out here literally doing the Lord’s work 🙌🏾🙌🏾

Also the Bible says that God is a just God. God would not be just in sending mentally delayed individuals to hell just because they don’t maneuver & respond the way we do. There are seeds sown in them just like us. His mercies renew every day and he is a good God!! Dope pod ❤

Him revealing to you that you are an enemy is MERCY, Hallelujah, My God that statement sent chills down my spine🙌🏾

Hey sis! As a believer with a deaf aunt, I’ve seen so many deaf people accept Jesus Christ as their savior with their hands, with their eyes when they couldn’t with their words out their mouth. I share this for additional encouragement and hope.

This man does not water down the Word. I am absolutely shaken to the core by how this teaching has fed my soul. Thank you ❤

1:06:43 ya’ll done messed around and got me crying. My 5 year old is autistic and delayed. But I see glimmers of hope in him that confirm my hope. He struggles to speak but I can see him looking and trying. He sings some worship songs that he enjoys. He welcomes the nightly prayers and Bible stories. I have hope, but most importantly I look for every little win and am grateful when they come. And I’ve learned to praise and worship even when he’s having his meltdowns. He’s taught me to trust that God will make a way when I don’t even see one because he is a good Father and an awesome God. Thank you for sharing your experience because it builds the community of parents that have children with special needs. ❤

Thank you for touching on the subject of special needs children and families. Thank you for showing me hope in Christ. We have 2 special needs children.

Preston is soooo smart! Love him! Jim and Jackie are just the perfect union. Thank God for them

I love what he said we are so busy trying to win arguments but not win ❤️ hearts that was powerful

Your sons question about his brothers salvation hit me, once again it shows regardless of the age children and their relationship with Jesus Christ is thee most important value a parent can create in their child's life

I just listened to Preston's book on audio books (so I'm sure that's why this is in my recommended; not complaining!) and LET ME TELL YOU! y'all need to read it or listen to it! it's very practical, it gives the contexts that we could witness in (i.e. family that know you & your past / flaws, strangers), ways to start conversations about God, the heart in which we witness, what NOT to do... it's all there. I especially love the part about being okay with watering. We don't always see the full result of our witness, but it's a seed planted. Check out his book, "How to win hearts and not arguments". It's FIRE. God really did His big one with giving us (the Body of Christ) a Preston Perry.

LIVING WITH AN ETERNITY MINDSET!

I’m barely 30 minutes in and I love how you guys touch on the topic of “looking in the Bible to find God and not ourselves”. I’m seeing more pastors and people of faith talk about this and it really opened my eyes and made me think differently when I read the Bible.

Cannot wait to read his book! I really enjoyed this podcast.

I love how you always advocate for your son and those with special needs and include that in your conversations. We don’t talk about that much so it’s nice too think about what role they play as believers and how they can build a relationship with God as well☺️

Not me over here crying because like Megan my son is on the spectrum and I am perpetually concerned about my son's salvation. But I know that while I believe God is helping my unbelief. PLUS talk about purpose - my son has made me learn the Bible more. He knows so many bible verses. God is Sovereign

The Perry’s have helped me in many ways using God’s truth and their boldness and gifts are such a blessing to so many they’ll never know❤ but God knows❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

I got his book as a gift around 4pm a couple months ago and by midnight I was finished with the book. I always hated reading, but this book unlocked something that God helped me see. Thank you Preston for having these type of conversations that many should be having, but aren’t! Super dope!

This conversation has so much depth and purpose. I love it!

Wow amazing conversation! Thank you Megan and Preston for opening up about your special needs son and brother. My nephew is non verbal autistic and it’s such a great reminder to have an eternity mindset. God bless you and your platform. Can’t wait to read Preston’s book!

This episode was so good literally in awe thank you for this episode Megan and Preston! The wisdoming is wisdoming and the Holy Spirit is SPIRITING in you both your tongue and this episode!!! wow incredible ALSO Megan is so confident! Her confidence is glowing and growing in God! Love that for you Megan! God is soooo goood and sooo faithful Amen!

Baby this man had me looking up salvific lol i said now i know he made that up lol and HE DID NOT. You better expand our vocab lol

The part about Preston and John going at it to prove whether Jesus is God or not remind me of Nabeel Quereshi and David Wood. Nabeel, a devout Muslim lived to devour Christians intentionally seeking to prove we don't worship God. He eventually converted and became a leading apologist for Christianity David was able to defend his faith accurately. His story is very inspiring.

I love this interview. It was so different than all the other interviews Preston has been on about the book. I love how you approach this.

You can tell Megan is excited! She keeps cutting him off 😂😂 He and Jackie are so chill! Love them ❤

I clicked to see Preston Perry talk about his book, but what blessed me personally was the conversation about autistic people and people with disabilities and their salvation. I'm also a mother of a child who is neurodiverse.

Megan this episode was so spirit led God bless you for this I teared up. Preston !!! God bless you for this!! And congratulations on your book!!! Thank you both for being so obedient!!

Whewww Preston hit me upside my head when he said “if you want to know if you’re not worshipping something then give it up” I never thought I worshipped money or my job but def see now cause I def struggle giving up those things and letting God to have full range in those areas. I cannot know that God is truly Jireh if I can’t trust that he will provide my monetary needs…wheww Preston just made me self reflect! Got some work to do!

What a phenomenal episode ! I had to go back a couple times just to hear some of that wisdom he dropped again ! 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨 first Jackie and now Preston ! Gods people ♥️

That: He would kill us. Thank you God for mercy, grace, forgiveness and love.

The dirtier the restaurant, the sweeter the food🤣🤣🤣

Can we get the book recommendation list you all discussed? As someone who also was raised in the church, things have changed so much. I can say, if you go to a church and you are not convicted to change your life, you probably shouldn't be there. Meaning, you should be uncomfortable living in sin when you go there, the word of God is powerful and when it's taught properly, it convicts your heart and you have to change.

Fellow Chicagoan: Harold’s Chicken at home is BOMB!!!! He ain’t lyin either, dirty hole in the wall restaurant, you know the food is gon bang. 😂

i love how he said that the real question is, is God sovereign over all evil. & that part about if God were to get rid of evil there would be no mankind! oh Lord, thank you for your mercy!!! This was very good.

“Be okay with being a seed planter.” 🥹🛖 Another good episode!

Thank you. I needed this episode.

Saw Preston Perry and clicked like in advance! 😅I look forward to now watching. 😆

Megan in Purpose, Megan on Purpose!

This was so good!! Loved the part where you guys shared about family members with disabilities and how you cope. Man that was so powerful and I cried. There is so much hope to gain from this conversation.

Preston really makes apologetics look cool! Love how he evangelizes

First Jackie, now Preston.. 😮‍💨 Bless the Lord! 🙌🏾😍✨ God bless you and keep using you, MegX

When Megan spoke about her son Caleb. He hat hit home for me. I’m kind of experiencing similar things with my daughter. To hear Preston speak about his older brother. I already have faith but nervous but I know God makes no mistakes. My daughter will be fine and when God is ready for my daughter to progress by his will , it will be done. Thank you for this episode! ❤

This is so good 🔥 The lack of discipleship is something that is truly needed.

This is my first time I’ve been able to see Preston as Preston and not Jackie’s husband. By default (because I came to know of her first, a her testimony helped me a lot), I always tied him with her. But man, this really opened my eyes to recognise the wonderful difference between them. This was so divine. Man oh, is God always on time. And Megan knew just the right questions to ask. Bless your heart. ❤ I hope everyone who comes across this comment just remember that God loves you.

Preston is such a good teacher!

amen to small groups … shoutout to the Perry’s & Megan Ashley this is a good podcast I love the Jesus in you guys !! 🤍 you can see God’s glory in you and how God using you guys especially for me! May God continue to bless you guys and use you as His vessels !!

Who knows if Caleb can speak in his dreams. The Lord may visit him there and Caleb can confess. Idk…that came to me as I was listening to the tail end of this. Thank y’all for sharing

I absolutely love the Perry’s! What a dope couple, may God continue to cover their union! 💕

This entire conversation is 🔥. Ya'll are putting words to what we are REALLY experiencing out here in these streets. There are several Christians who are waiting for God to point them in the right direction to a Christ centered disciple making church, where His presence is priority.

the convo about nonverbal people & salvation... WHEW. it's a topic I don't hear many (read: anyone else until today) talk about but God put on my heart. in 2023 He had me take this job with a non-verbal person and taught me soooo much. I know my role was to just plant a seed because there's no way I can see the fruit of my labour (yet; I left the job when God said my time was up). The person in care loved music, like Megan's son Caleb. So I would just play worship music and music with Scripture that was calming, and the person loved it; their whole demeanor changed. I went in with the mindset I think most Christians have: I need to cast this mute spirit out, see complete physical healing in this person NOW. And God said no, this person will be autistic & will need help for their whole life FOR HIS GLORY. How? I talk about that in a vid on my channel so I won't type it all here. I'll just say, it humbled me and changed my entire approach lol. Not seeing people as "xyz needs to be fixed" but seeing them with compassion & reaching them where they're at. But another thing God said was that my role was to plant the seed. No one else had ever bothered giving the gospel to this person because of their conditions. Yet the enemy was still wreaking havoc on that person's life, as he does with all of us because satan doesn't play fair. I saw demons manifesting and telling me that the person was theirs "rightfully" and that I could never share the gospel with him because he couldn't verbally consent. It was a battle ground for spiritual warfare. BUT VICTORY BELONGS TO JESUS! God showed me some specific things to set the atmosphere to be one of worship, praise, thanksgiving, and inviting His presence. I prayed with and for the person. I played worship music. I tried playing the audio Bible of the gospel of Luke but the person wasn't into it, which is okay. God has ways of reaching EVERYBODY. It could be through music, a sermon, discipleship, reading the Bible, hearing the Bible, and so many ways we can't even think of. What matters is that when He gives us an assignment to plant or water a seed, we can't rush the process or feel like we failed just because we didn't see the result. I still pray for that person to this day, and I believe I always will. God showed me a vision of the person thanking me in heaven for not giving up on introducing them to Jesus, which humbled me as I worked. And like Megan said, this person in care was so patient. People in public would always compliment me and say "you're so patient to work with this person" but I was like "nah, this person is patient with ME!" because for real, this person was patient as I learned what their sounds meant and we learned to communicate with each other. And the person was joyful... yes they had their tantrums and rough moments, I'm not gonna lie, but ultimately they were a cool person, all things considered. Don't give up on non-verbal & autistic people! They need Jesus too, and they can understand / encounter Him in their own ways.

This one really blessed me! Thank you both, and praise God! Particularly the parts about how God saved us to reach our cultures not save us from it, how He reaches out to people in ways the western mind isn't necessarily used to, and about how boldness is obedience more than doing what man is afraid of. I needed to hear this today. God bless

The way Preston help me better understand and explain about allowing evil to exist for it to essentially lead us to God! This episode was everything. I can’t wait for June 15 in Detroit !

This is such a good episode! Important and timely conversations, and also very great questions asked! I was watching this while working out and literally kept stopping and saying “wow, this is a great question” lol

Preston breaks down the word so well !

That statement about boldness was so on point!!! Wonderful podcast❤

My book arrived yesterday and I can't wait to read it!!

Meg you would love Lisa Fields. She's a black woman who does apologetics and she's NICE with it. She has a platform called the Jude 3 Project.

Preston is that ninja! 🙌🏽 he be spitting for real, I always step away inspired and educated. I’ve personally never purchased any book but his was my first!

This is so good!!! Thank you, Preston for always teaching and speaking with godly wisdom, practicality, and truth. May the Lord bless you more. 💗

Sooo blessed to be at a Bible teaching church ! It definitely changed my life within a year !

Megan is definitely a preacher 😅❤ Seeing it brings me so much peace!

BLESSED!! BLESSED!! BLESSED!!! So truly blessed from this Podcast😊 Thank you!!!!

Boldness is not doing what men are afraid to do. Boldness is about obedience!! Whewww!!!

Thank you Lord.. for this broadcast... HOPE IN CHRIST. WHEN WE SUFFER HERE.. PRESTON, AND MEGAN THANK YOU HOLY SOIRIT FIR USING THEM.. AMEN.

Preston is sooooo intelligent! Jesus good lord!❤🔥

“we worship what we have an affection for”

After the man mentioned “Harold’s over Uncle Remus”, I was ready to pause it. J/k!!! Glad I stayed , because the seed planting blessed me tremendously. I’m excited about the book and tour 💛

Love me some Megan Ashley

“God does not save people on islands, he saves people to a body”. I needed the reminder of why it’s important to be in the Lord’s house and not exclusively online.

That break down if God created evil was so good 🙌🏾🙌🏾 Thank you Jesus !!

This was soooo good!! I learned so much in this video. Wow, he was teaching!

Love it here!!! Praise God! Also, the Bible says that we are to receive His discipline as one of the many forms of His love. So God being mad at you (and whatever else that may entail) much like how our earthly/natural fathers discipline us in times of need is His love showing up in the form of Mercy. In regard to evil: we also have to remember that God did destroy all of humanity at one point in time, but then he also promised to never do that again (the rainbow). In regard to Caleb: God also gives us the Holy Spirit who intercedes for us. Who prays the things we know not even to pray. So I’d be willing to also believe Caleb experiences the same thing.

this was amazing.

I'm thankful for this conversation it was an encouragement.

I'm reading Preston's book, now. It's powerful and helps me understand me and how to witness.

Love that she said..."Look for GOD and not you when reading the Word". I felt the same way when GOD would bring up bible characters.....so her saying that has changed my view on how to read the bible.

I had to watch this back to back and will likely come back to reingest. This was SO GOOD! And very edifying! I’m excited about his book and how God is working on His children’s hearts thru this podcast 🫶🏾

Such a great conversation! Megan you are standing in your purpose man! I know are use to being behind the scenes but God has you shining so bright. Love that God glow 🙏🏾🙌🏾

Thought-provoking. Convicting. Such a blessing, Preston

Another awesome 👏 pod‼️ with love please change the color of the logo “in totality so it blends with the different camera shifts “ and not blend into the sofa 🛋️ white on white - we going for we always moving with a spirit of excellence 😌 Ashley continue being a star / light 🌟 for the body of Christ

I’m just getting around to this and man oh man I would love to be in yall presence (including Jackie)! Man!

Yet another great episode!!!

Megan, you should make a whole episode on what you talked about with your example of David and you realizing it’s not about David but about God. That was really good and changed my whole perspective.

Preston, God bless you Man!! Five Heartbeats!!!!! My all time fav movie.

When the restaurant is dirty the food is better…. FACTS!!!

I absolutely love this. One thing I do want to hear about is why no one keeps the Sabbath, which is one of the commandments.

Preston is super dope. I love the Perry’s. I can’t wait to read his book. I am currently reading “Defending the Faith.” Trying to get more into apologetics. I love my brothers and sisters in Christ. Love you Megan!!

1:10:18 Preston dropping this in last 2mins of the pod is wild!! 🔥 I think this is what I needed to hear.

Emotionally Healthy Spirituality has a great daily office that honestly has me in a spiritual chokehold. It is challenging me to be mature and see myself and others deeply in a way that makes me want to crawl under a rock. Chyle, if you want to grown, mature, and love well get the book.

This was amazing. I sat and watched the entire episode glued. I also have some tips of how to evangelize when people talk about their being evil in the world. It was got real at the point where both Megan and Preston opened up about their lives.Thank you both for being transparent and vulnerable. This video made my day better. Thank you both

This was so powerful I just love Megan ❤ I love the Perry’s his teaching is profound I love this podcast my best one to watch I look forward to Wednesday to watch I get the book