Ep 6.5 - Bog Oak Truss Rod Plug in Swamp Kauri Guitar Neck? | 42,000 Year Old Guitar Build!

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Welcome to Crimson Guitars (CG)HQ ru-vid.com.... In this episode, Ben is using ancient wood from a UK bog to make a truss rod plug for ancient wood from New Zealand. A match made in heaven.
This guitar is being made using a very soft wood and as such the neck is stabilised with both the usual truss rod and carbon fibre stiffening rods.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:34 Ben never does things the easy way - The Plug!
8:23 Drilling the truss rod access hole
10:18 Glueing in the plug
11:53 Carefully cutting away the excess material on the plug - very carefully!
13:33 Filing and sanding
16:05 Conclusion
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@Thebrainymonkey Год назад

Rod Plug? Man, his first solo album after leaving the seminal '70s prog /folk outfit Bog Oak Truss was a work of genius.

@anthonywilson5646 Год назад

very reminiscent of the track "Hit Single" by "Various Artists" on their album "The Greatest Hits"

@HalbeEllgr Год назад

So glad you looked better 30 seconds into the vid, looks like the anti histamine kicked in! Hope all's ok, you looked a little under the weather. Take care Mr Ben

@BLBlackDragon Год назад

*CLANG CLANG CLANG* (Ben walks into the shop) Once again, Ben defies the odds and gets it done. Very nice. Personally, I wouldn't have done it any different. That hole placement is critical to truss access.

@mercse Год назад

To solve the issue with the front of the plug lifting while gluing it in place, try using the back end of the drill bit (you used to make the hole) in the plug hole to allow you to provide the downward pressure you need without worrying about collapsing the plug itself.

@bramweinreder2346 Год назад

I've built guitars for a hobby. I know what it feels like to have good days and off days. And I can tell you right now: yes it is fun, and yes your off days are still better than my best days. I only wish you had a channel when I was still building. Might have learned a lot of good tricks.

@goonernz Год назад

Loving this build, as a UK expat in NZ. Swamp kauri can be stunningly beautiful but also hell to work with as it is so soft. With the plug, I would suggest using a lathe and pen blank piece of bog oak in pen jaws on a Nova chuck or similar. Use a jacobs chuck to drill a small pilot hole in the blank and then turn the blank down to size, insert it and then drill out to size with ever-increasing bit sizes. Using the lathe gives more of a guarantee of hole and outer diameter being centred and avoids the stress a plug cutter puts on the timber as it cuts.

@spudpud-T67 Год назад

Just drilling a series of smaller pilot holes will help if he doesn't have a lathe. A lathe as you describe would be best though. I used a lot of gummy swamp kauri, not much plain as it tends to disintegrate with time. My dad cleared our swamp in the 60's and had a fire that went for 6 weeks just burning swamp kauri. I love how they say it's so expensive when I'd just go and grab a piece out of our stop bank when I wanted some.

@jimbecker5675 Год назад

Keep in mind that a radial drill press (adjustable throat depth) inherently has the potential of flex when pressure is exerted for the cut. That and the shaking of the machine and/or table may have entered into your challenges making those hollowed plugs.

@shrimuyopa8117 Год назад

I don't know what it is but I just find it so enjoyable to watch other people wood work. I do wood working myself but seeing other people have successes and struggles along the way too is fun to watch. Thank you for sharing this journey, I am really loving this build.

@ukguitaryogi2888 Год назад

learnt something new on this one about plug cutter bits. didnt know they existed thanks man

@Slovy_ Год назад

Just from my past experiences I’ve learned to always start with a small drill bit and step it up with 3-5 drill bits. That way there’s less of a chance of tear out

@markleveson6093 Год назад

Ben, you're "simply the best", mate. You make my day every time I watch one of your videos. A better anti-depressant than St. John's Wort! 😂

@flapjack413 Год назад

Dude, I never noticed how absolutely pimp that drill press of yours is! ...The extending boom, adjustable table position... I want one!!!!

@plexibreath Год назад

I liked how it looked part way through the final filing while it was still about 1.5 mm proud, but filed flush looks fine.

@zuchtfisch Год назад

Glue some facing of thin birch plywood or acrylic onto the bog oak when your drilling/ cutting the plug perpendicularly to the grain. It will hold the fibres on top together.

@the_nondrive_side Год назад

4:54 actively watching... Plug the hole. Stabilize with CA first.. Pop the plug after second function and stabilized again.

@emochinchilla Год назад

Your patience is insane! Great video. Thank you.

@josephrogers9701 Год назад

Interested in how you cleared or will clear the bottom of the hole to expose the end of the truss rod. And I presume that the alignment of the plug and rod must be spot on to allow the hardware to index.

@Giant_Guitars Год назад

Lol I love it, move the massive pillar drill not the cameras 🤣

@alexcorona Год назад

I put a variable power supply on my drill press,that way I can control the speed with that instead of changing belts. There's probably something wrong with that method, if not manufacturers would put it as a feature, but over a year now and it's still running strong.

@Etna. Год назад

I love me some good Famag drills. They are the best! I own a set of 2-15mm in half Millimeter steps. They really make a difference. Very nice project so far! Regards, Etna.

@Cranedewd Год назад

I love watching you Ben! I’ve learned so much about guitar building from you and I appreciate what you do. That being said I just had to google what the hell is a plectrum. Lol

@fairguinevere666 Год назад

The real trick would be to find a plug cutter with the same inner and outer dimensions as a piece of pipe or something, that could be inserted in the kerf left behind to support the sides during the second centredrill operation?

@Ed_Robson_1970 Год назад

I did something similar to your plug cutting the other day when I started experimenting with making my own wooden control knobs. Best results happened when I drilled first then went in with a forstner, ,and finally I used a hole cutter that was bigger than I wanted to cut through, then I basically mounted the piece on a drill bit and used my drill like a lathe and sanded back to the diameter that I wanted.

@stresslesspropertysolution466 Год назад

Hi, I think I would have done it the same way but when glueing I would have put a drill bit in the hole for leverage and put the masking tape on the drill bit to stop the plug from squashing.

@Paul-D Год назад

You wait until someone says nice walnut truss rod plug. Youll hear bens head explode from Dorset hahaha nice job!

@davidhill5684 Год назад

More terrific work from Ben! Keep on doing it!

@billsguitargarage Год назад

Just ordered a set of the sanding sticks. Looking forward to getting them!

@SweetTGuitars Год назад

I love this guitar. You're right about the very expensive, very high quality FamAg drill bits. Maybe one day I can have a full set! For now I have a 10MM😁Peace & Love Ben. Awesome build brother.

@rogermoore2798 Год назад

I'd have used a much larger diameter 'tube cutter'...then drilled the hole in the centre, but not all the way through. Remove from pillar drill.....cut it off. Clamp the end of the 'tube' in the lathe....then reduced the diameter with emery cloth as it spins. Hope you understand my methodology.

@matthewkabat4633 Год назад

Good afternoon Crimson guitars

@caseymclane1972 Год назад

Ben: "Let's use a more basic drill bit!" *pulls out the 2 foot long steel scepter of hadean justice*

@CrimsonCustomGuitars Год назад

That's my new band name! 😆

@mattomon1045 Год назад

It looks great Ben

@DominusFeles Год назад

1. Stabilise that brittle wood 2. Chuck it in the lathe 😋 That’s how I would have done it 🙃

@bradwiebelhaus7065 Год назад

Well done.

@sinocte Год назад

Instead of fully drilling the hole on the pillar drill, I would have probably just drilled a tiny pilot, so you could go back and finish it straight, and still have an easier time of it.

@1066wastrel Год назад

Ben, I feel you`re wiping/blowing away far to much dust (which can be carcinogenic for those who don`t know) some of which will be going into the air. I got a wee hand held cordless vacuum cleaner & modified it using some gaffa tape & a hose, just for the small amounts of fine dust. I did this for working in peoples homes, drilling into brick walls especially & it reduces dust (landing on a dust sheet mind you) by a huge amount, filters need cleaning & washing regularly mind!

@rossfudd256 Год назад

Hey Ben, looks like you're going to need arm extenders soon. You are almost at max extension when you were reading the diameter of that drill bit.😅😅

@jonahguitarguy Год назад

How about a rod or drill bit in the center hole of the plug to give downward pressure for gluing?

@Hotrodheb Год назад

I'm thinking it would have been easier to put a chunk of the bog oak into the lathe to make the plug!

@omegaflameZ Год назад

You know that whole 'don't hit metal with your relatively expensive and nice drill bit' thing? Yea... did that once with the tip of a screw (because I was impatient and an idiot). Knocked the spurs right off my nice 3/8" bit. Not sure I've ever burnt $15 quite so fast. Least the centerpoint wasn't trashed.

@timcoombe7880 Год назад

Our ideas of a 'normal' drill bit vary wildly!

@tonisiret5557 Год назад

I put your channel on in front of my step-dad, who nearly passes out with workshop/tool envy.

@dismafuggerhere2753 Год назад

you could friction fit a sacrifiial piece of dowel into the hole before cutting and rasping, then pull it out with a screw when done. jobs a goodun though!

@worlddivinglembongan Год назад

Did you consider using a lathe? Bore out the same but then turn using fine cuts on an engineer lathe

@Michaelgroberts Год назад

I don’t blow at my phone screen when I see sawdust, you do.

@garyhardman8369 Год назад

I would have cut a hexagonal section on the table saw. Then drill and turn to size on the lathe.

@eklypse69 Год назад

Where did you get that plug cutter set?! That's beautiful!

@Fernos005 Год назад

It's called a drill press bud👍

@Online_Lawyer_UK Год назад

Why isnt the hole for the truss rod access not drilled into the cavity prior to popping the rod in and fretboard on?

@clinthughes6121 Год назад

Did I sense maybe some anger or frustration when you were cutting through the bog oak????😂Haha

@SatanSupimpa Год назад

Not gonna lie, I'm might be even more curious about what you're going to do with the shavings you're saving from this project.

@adamdutton9922 Год назад

This series reminds be of videos of people walking along cliff edges and standing on top of sky scrapers. Doing stuff you would never normally think twice about like standing up - only with TERRIFYING POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES!

@erickuehne4194 Год назад

It seems to me that it would have been much easier to make the plug in a lathe with a collet. The collet would have provided great support for the part while drilling. Is there some reason you didn't go that way?

@peterkitts8815 Год назад

Could the plug with hole have been cut easier on the lathe?

@danielwotton5961 Год назад

Is the headstock paddle very thick? it looks thick on video. Does the camera add 10 lbs to the thickness?

@wiltshiredoug9959 Год назад

What would I do to achieve the same thing? I’d get Crimson to do it for me!

@paulneeds Год назад

What is the the ultimate purpose of this guitar Ben? Is is a ‘playable display piece’? Or is ‘more’ expected from it?

@CrimsonCustomGuitars Год назад

This is a custom Master Build. Ben is working closely with the client. That's all she wrote. DC

@Araye Год назад

is this for GGBO '25?

@Ed_Robson_1970 Год назад

Question - given that you've built the whole thing from Kauri so far, why did you not use an offcut for this job, instead of putting in another species?

@PaulCooksStuff Год назад

Simple. Use a spoke wheel truss rod at the other end. 🤪

@thesamaffliction1572 Год назад

Excuse mydumb questions. I'm an enthusiast that can't afford to start learning to build guitars yet. BUt would this method be easier if using more common, harder woods? It seems much cleaner of an outcome as you can trust your centre line

@timconway2810 Год назад

This entire built is based around the timber chosen, not the other way around.

@thesamaffliction1572 Год назад

@@timconway2810 Oh ofcourse I under stand that. I meant using this technique in future builds that were with harder/newer materials

@TheCrissCastle Год назад

I can't hear anything in this whole video on my mobile device... :(

@bentemchine Год назад

why make the plug into end grain? is it a design choice? seems like anything into end grain makes life harder.

@K1W1fly Год назад

I'd use a lathe....

@moogoomoogoo5990 Год назад

Oh let me see if I happen to have any big oak samples just laying around. Nope 😂

@philwild5279 Год назад

If only you owned some sort of rotary wood turning machine 😆Overcomplication - I would be disappointed if you did anything else Ben.

@thenoisesimake Год назад

Run out of sunscreen?

@karlalton3170 Год назад

Ben my old mate why are you messing about with a drill press when i know you have a Lathe ? Much easier and more accurate 😁😁🤘🤘🤘

@SmartAlec77 Год назад

At last your using a pillar drill, so often you drill free hand..... but that drill is wobbly in the extreme no wonder you couldn't drill that oak!!! bolt it to a level floor and lock it down!!!! ugh!!!

@AndrewSmith-pc8eq Год назад

Like #666! ........Hail Satan!

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Год назад

Ben: It is rather useful to have an X in the workshop. Me: Yeah, you just rub it in. Also: unpopular opinion, but that Kauri wood just does not look appealing. Not worth the money IMHO.