Ep. 66: The Greatest Heavyweight Boxers Tier List! 

To have wladmir the longest reigning champ in c tier And to have wilder with him is crazy

You guys are nuts. Holmes beat Weaver, Cooney, Norton, Shavers (twice), Witherspoon, Mercer... He held the title longer and defended it more times than anyone except for Joe Louis. Definitely top three of all time. Possibly top two. Also, you seem to be downgrading Frazier. There is NOBODY Marciano beat who Frazier could not have beaten (when they fought Marciano... Louis, Walcott, and Charles were all on the down side of their careers when they faced Marciano) and Marciano was small. Frazier would have owned him. People criticize Frazier because he had four losses on his record, but those losses were against Ali and Foreman. There is no shame in that.

My man is underrated

I don't agree wit all there list but I just love how they bring up history

I'm with Tre on Holmes. I'd give The Easton Assassin an A.

My list would be: S tier: Larry Holmes Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Muhammad Ali and Sonny Liston. A tier: Floyd Patterson, Joe Frazier, George Foreman and Ken Norton. B tier: Riddick Bowe and Evander Holyfield. C tier: Wladimir Klitschko, Lennox Lewis, Michael Moorer, David Tua, Mike Tyson (prime or post jail) and Tyson Fury. D tier: Eric butterbean and Deontay Wilder

great format tre, sam i wholeheartly agree whit your rating of the heavyweights in the tier. however to me you guys contradict yourselfs about rocky marciano he a c" tier.

You have split Tyson in to 2 parts, that is so bad. That makes the List unserios. Lewis didn't fight prime Holyfield (far away from prime!), prime Tyson (far away from prime!) or Bowe (for whatever reason). His career lacks the big fights and he is the only (maybe even Marciano) one where this is the case. 2 Fighs against Holyfield witch was a old (!) and smaller man and he couldn't hurt him really. The second Fight was close by the way. I still like what you guys do. 😀 Thank you and keep going!

This is fun. I like most of your explanations. This was hard to just give a letter grade without adding a + or - . My biggest disagreements, first, I think Moorer is a C because of the Foreman loss, he did beat Holyfield but Evander had a heart condition in which Teddy Atlas knew and even told Moorer to take advantage. Also Tua KOd Double M and Moorer just looks like the odd man at the B Class. Second...Sam....Sam...Sam..... LARRY HOLMES IS A C 😅! Holmes is so underrated and disrespected. He is arguably a top 4 greatest heavyweight of all time. His jab, his record, his boxing lesson for Mericiless Ray Mercer. He beat Shavers twice, Cooney, Norton, Berbick. He was kind of robbed by Michael Spinks. Larry is a solid A bro. But as always, you two make great content.

Triggered by that thumbnail 😂

Norton was given the WBC belt when Leon Spinks chose to grant Ali a rematch rather than fight him as the No. 1 contender.

Bowe is a B in my opinion fair list tho

Only S tier heavyweights in my opinion are Joe Louis Rocky Marciano Ali Lennox and The Night Train Sonny Liston

People Really don't know shit about Boxing Mike Tyson turned people in 1985 Cus died in 1985 so basically Mike became historic after Cus

Holmes in S and Norton in B, Marciano shouldn't be on the list, the man was a light-heavyweight.