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EPA Forces Devastating Update to COBB AccessPORT 

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Today, we discuss a critical issue concerning the COBB AccessPORT which arose this past Monday. It seems that the EPA has been pressuring COBB to comply with CARB restrictions and apply limitations to their AccessPORT tuning software which may render some of your modifications useless going forward.
#CobbAcessPORT #ProjectGreenSpeed #EPA

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4 окт 2024

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@2slofouru
@2slofouru 2 года назад
There should be a company that's permitted by the epa to test vehicles after the tune, to prove it's not dumping more nasties than allowed. Seems that could be a compromise and prove tuners aren't contributing to increased pollution levels. A well tuned built car doesn't have to pollute more.
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
That's a valid point. Treat it like an inspection station, but just make it for specialty modified cars.
@zcivicef
@zcivicef 2 года назад
Thank you!!! I’ve been using Cobb for about 2 years and have expanded to using on 3 vehicles all Subarus 02, 04, 2010. I think Cobb totally dropped a bomb on everyone. They are a business but they could have given its customers a heads up. They are a business and trying to keep EPA happy but I have a feeling that the EPA will change regulations again, it’s a big money game. Cobb I’m sure has spent a ton on CARB compliance what is going to happen when something changes and it’s no longer compliant. I’m glad you mentioned about the antique or gas guzzler luxury tax like fine Italian vehicles have to pay but I’m open for a one time fee but not yearly. I think all of these cars that are running in limp mode are more damaging then a fully/correctly tuned vehicle. I’ve been wanting to see a comparison of 2 identical vehicles. One EPA friendly other can have normal deletes and proper tune who sniffs cleaner. Thanks for being supportive of the modded community and not saying what we’ve all been hearing this week.
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
A modern comparison would be interesting. I had a friend about 20 years ago who had a turbocharged impresa rs (gc8) with a standalone, and was able to tune it well enough to pass a sniffer test. The issue with the way things are done now is that any car that has certain modifications is assumed to be guilty of generating extra pollution. It would be nice to be able to prove otherwise. It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, right?
@zcivicef
@zcivicef 2 года назад
This is the America we live in unfortunately. We’ve been told what and what we can’t do. It’s been ongoing with firearms since the 80s, freedom of speech is going that way, difference of option or you’re cancelled. If you can sniff clean that’s all that should matter. They make the rules we figure ways to meet them and they change them again. It’s just a money game unfortunately for them. They want everyone going electric which they have big contracts and stock interest in (they’re making money) Progress is awesome and I’m all for it but for me in my town we have 1 charger, most of the vehicles cost price of most houses and I drive 80 miles a day for work. I could go on about everything for hours a positive and negatives for both. Everything has some consequences.
@rustyshackleford81
@rustyshackleford81 2 года назад
Back in December I bought Cobb 1300cc injectors, cobbs full flexfuel kit, top feed fuelrail conversion, afpr and Stainless reinforced PTFE fuel lines for equal length feed to the rails.... Conservatively $2,500, not counting the ethanol rated pump. I am a salty salty Subaru owner.
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
I BELIEVE they are accepting returns for those.
@nemos1218
@nemos1218 2 года назад
I haven't updated my Accesport in months lol my AP is going nowhere near my computer lol
@diecast118scale7
@diecast118scale7 2 года назад
Welcome to what the EPA has done to the Diesel world and tuners.
@havelandkhuong1973
@havelandkhuong1973 2 года назад
I believe EPA will change regulations again , but I am very disappointed in cobb bc I just bought a j pipe and the same day it arrived to my house is the same day they no longer provide the stage 2 tune so now I can’t even put the j pipe on my car .. smh 🤦‍♂️
@jfjhtfghgfhgf
@jfjhtfghgfhgf 2 года назад
I feel ya. I have a catless dp, uppipe with ewg sitting in my garage because of this garbage
@SaturnFrost
@SaturnFrost 2 года назад
We can't have shit man. Discontinued cars, aftermarket parts no longer working. 1 states regulations affects all of us, smh.
@TheE3R
@TheE3R 2 года назад
I'm in the build process of my 15 STi for a solid street setup (550-600whp+) going closed deck, head works, rotated turbo, already have the tgv deletes, im planning to do air pump deletes, etc. and all of the sudden this BS with the EPA just blast us away, spoke with my tuner he told me to standby on buying parts and wait until they can come up with a solution.
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
Yeah it really throws a wrench into a lot of builds on short notice.
@RicondaRacing
@RicondaRacing 2 года назад
Look into open source. I'm going to look into that when I get cams.
@spideym35i
@spideym35i 2 года назад
What I want to know is what happens to people in non emissions counties, or even countries that don’t have these types of emissions laws? Doesn’t seem fair to me
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
That's a good point
@ivnpnz8184
@ivnpnz8184 2 года назад
They’re just virtue signaling…
@jamesg8246
@jamesg8246 2 года назад
I'm thinking the same thing, I don't live in California, why am I being held to their standards? Then I found out a bunch of states are in the process of voluntarily adopting "CA-like" emissions standards by 2025 and the rest I'm sure falling in line soon after. This actually makes a lot of sense as to why an ICE powered STi could not be. 2-3 years isn't a long enough production run to get their investment back on a model that sells so few per year and with supply constraints they'd never even meet production goals anyways.
@spideym35i
@spideym35i 2 года назад
@@jamesg8246 it makes me genuinely scared for the tuning community. If it’s just the tuner asking where the car to be tuned is registered, and going off of that location‘s laws about emissions, I’d actually be cool with that. But banning it in general isn’t fair imo. And I do agree about the STI sadly. We might be enthusiasts, but end of the day the manufacturer has to make money to keep going
@jamesg8246
@jamesg8246 2 года назад
@@spideym35i Wait until every state has emissions and if they plug in and your software doesn't match the copies they have from the manufacturer, it fails for "modified software". Despite burning clean and all emissions related items being in place.
@aakburns
@aakburns 2 года назад
The only issue with the change is you cannot get around emissions in a tune map file. That's it. There's nothing else to complain about.
@MacDaddy
@MacDaddy 2 года назад
This is huge in the industry
@2slofouru
@2slofouru 2 года назад
On my xt and previous impreza, if the cel is on, the cruise control is disabled. The cel is annoying but could just be covered. I like cruise though and that would suck having to constantly clear a cel to take a road trip...
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
Yes, that's common for other cars as well. So now you're losing features due to a relatively innocuous CEL. I feel like we're going to revert back to 2006 tuning technology in some ways with these updates. Realistically, I think Cobb is going to lose a lot of the market share in the short term until they can convince the EPA that things like Flex Fuel aren't necessarily causing harm. I don't envy what they must be dealing with right now.
@alorrick7546
@alorrick7546 2 года назад
Sucks... as modifying mine has started... and now its back to square one as only visual mods can continue to be done with out clear line of sight
@rustyshackleford81
@rustyshackleford81 2 года назад
As far as the Subaru TGV's are concerned... Those are literally TPS sensors just like the one on your throttle body. I'm going to order some spares and see how it goes just plugging them in sans OEM TGVs because my 06 STI can't run top feed injectors with OEM TGVs
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
Let us know your results!
@joshuahendricks7280
@joshuahendricks7280 2 года назад
The Newer sunarus are not that way and they have a motor in them... I'm sure the ECU has some algorithm that can tell if they are functioning properly like air flow.
@dgaz3057
@dgaz3057 Год назад
will the old off the shelf tunes work?
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit Год назад
Only if they are already installed on an accessport.
@dgaz3057
@dgaz3057 Год назад
@@speedcircuit including 2+?
@coreywhite5573
@coreywhite5573 2 года назад
I don’t care I’m still running my Subaru as is with my mods I’m not changing nothing I still get my car inspected regardless
@zokusharuuku1091
@zokusharuuku1091 2 года назад
Just imagine if you waited over a year to have your Subaru fixed like I did and had your car scheduled to be tuned on Monday and you’d get to finally drive your subi home that night for the first time after you spent every dollar you had to fix it which I’ve done… Annnnndd you no longer can tune it with the acessport you spent $700 on.
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
Yeah, that's frustrating. They really should have given more than two weeks notice on this.
@RicondaRacing
@RicondaRacing 2 года назад
Yeah, COBB should get boycotted
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
@@RicondaRacing I wouldn't say that. They're still a good company and the ap is still a good product. Even with these limitations, they will still work for most people.
@aakburns
@aakburns 2 года назад
@@RicondaRacing It's not Cobbs fault. Can't blame them.
@masterskater256
@masterskater256 2 года назад
I have a dc5 rsx/integra type s with hondata kpro if they come after them I will just get a haltech not worried not one bit
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with hondata, you don't need to connect to a server when you open the software, correct?
@dc5_pinoy246
@dc5_pinoy246 2 года назад
@@speedcircuit That is correct.
@Dad-mode-locked-on
@Dad-mode-locked-on 2 года назад
Romraider OpenECU tactrix. Full stand alone. Hardware emulation circuits via FGPA devices. Motec.
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
The problem is that the barrier of entry for standalones is high. I think many folks will move to open source, but unfortunately they likely won't have the support that Cobb offers.
@zcivicef
@zcivicef 2 года назад
Several developers/contributors of romraider went to Cobb. The knowledge is out there it’s just os isn’t a paying gig and don’t have access to everything like a large company/budgets. They have 32bit dbw sd and some have e85 capabilities. It’s kind of needs basis. I have this car and I want this. Cobb made that available to everyone not a platform one person who knew how to do it.
@gioderas9916
@gioderas9916 Год назад
I just got an ecoboost, should I still buy a Cobb access port or should I look into alternatives for tuning at this point
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit Год назад
What modifications do you have or plan on doing?
@Kush2020
@Kush2020 10 месяцев назад
I know this is an old post but it seems things have evolved for the better?
@tdogjenkins5349
@tdogjenkins5349 2 года назад
Subaru guys put your vape down lol
@jb6574
@jb6574 2 года назад
Lol..sucks to be a subaru owner right now
@g1llifer
@g1llifer 2 года назад
@@jb6574 no shitt
@franciss8870
@franciss8870 2 года назад
So its safe to use the old software and use the old one rather than updating it? I bought my cobb last year and haven’t have time to install it meaning it has an old software. Im planning to install it now. Im running catless and my engine light turns on and off. Its been doing that for years and my car is perfectly fine.
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
I don't think it will work, it will probably force an update.
@RalphsGarage
@RalphsGarage Год назад
Hey its Dino
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit Год назад
Hey it's Ralph!
@timl420
@timl420 2 года назад
not to mention the way they marketed flex fuel discontinuing and sold out of them
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
I heard a rumor that they may find a way to incorporate them again, but it would have to work over the CAN bus rather than hijacking / replacing an OEM sensor.
@smudgeyarksha3514
@smudgeyarksha3514 10 месяцев назад
So is it possible to get the Subarus tuned without a Cobb access port
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 10 месяцев назад
Yes, however the Cobb AcessPORT has been the standard for a long time, and is arguably the most well developed tuning platform for Subaru.
@jb6574
@jb6574 2 года назад
This sucks for the subaru community..it has no effect on mazdaspeeds and some other platforms
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
Maybe not yet
@andrewmcewan8081
@andrewmcewan8081 Год назад
what else comes with the polititions who r anti epa
@RicondaRacing
@RicondaRacing 2 года назад
I got my final remap tune thank God. I will no longer be supporting this company as a result of their changes. Time to go open source.
@jemonda
@jemonda 2 года назад
Go woke go broke!
@independentassesor2630
@independentassesor2630 2 года назад
Can I still run a catless dump pipe for my 2012 subaru wrx with the cobb software?
@speedcircuit
@speedcircuit 2 года назад
I don't think so
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