MechWarrior 4: Vengeance - A Mixed Bag of Metal Mayhem 

Its my least favorite Mechwarrior game so far. Which sucks because I love the setting and the story. Many of my favorite Battletech stories are part of the larger Fedcom civil war. Plus the late 3050s through the 3060s are my favorite era because that period is when Mech designs I adore became fairly common instead of a few royal or limited production variants in the Star League era or a handful of rare designs in the Succession Wars. (All of which weren't introduced IRL until long after this game came out) I'm ok with the idea of weapon type hardpoints. But you need enough variety in Mech designs that players can create whatever they want as long as its remotely reasonable without leaving tons of empty hardpoints. And restricting adding things like Jump Jets was foolish. My favorite Mech type is pretty simple. Heavy class all anti-energy weapons, and jump jet equipped. There are no Mechs meeting those criteria in the base game even though multiple Mechs that meet those criteria were regularly used by both sides of the Fedcom civil war, which this conflict is a section of. The Mech selection in this game seems like the developers are trying to shove using multiple weapon types down the player's throat even if we really don't want to because there are no Inner Sphere Mechs in the base game without hardpoints for at at least two weapon types. And the developers missed the whole point of an Omnimech because most Omnimechs rarely have weapon mounts that wouldn't be omni slots in this system much less the non-omnislots outnumbering the omni mounts like in every Omnimech the game has. In fact if memory serves none of the game's Clan Mechs would include any none omni slots because the whole advantage of an Omnimech is being able to switch out the weapons and extra equipment quickly and easily as needed. Its like rather then letting the players pilot what we desired the developers were trying to make us pick from their favorite design concepts. And if we didn't really like those well it sucked to be us because the developers didn't care.

At the time, I was slightly disappointed. I'd started with Mechwarrior 3, and 4 felt like it was a step back in terms of realism. The mechs looked too bright and cartoony. However, with time I grew to appreciate 4 more (along with its follow-ups). Having a more restricted Mechlab was better for the reasons you've said - each Mech now has a reason to exist, rather than just picking the one with the best hitboxes. It's also utterly awesome when played with a Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 joystick, which I'd newly acquired at the time (and still works!) - never has a game felt so... stompy!s)

@@Zierlerpin But they need Mechs filling a wider variety of roles for the limits to work without leaving players frustrated. Especially those of us who know the setting and know Mechs we would like to use are available in the region the game but the developers decided not to include them. And the whole point of Omnimechs is they can easily be equipped with anything the pilot wants as long as the weapons and gear are available. How the Mechlab worked in 2 and 3 is exactly how Omnimechs are supposed to work. Its what made their development and in the early days before they spread among all the Clans possession of them such a significant advantage.

My dad *seemed* to play a lot of videogames right around the time I was born and shortly after (born '95). So I was fortunate enough to grow up in a house with a PS1 and a PC that could run games like MW. Our XP machine had titles like Quake 3/4, arcade cabinet emulators, Unreal Tournament, etc. I remember finding the box for Vengeance and asking his permission to play, as it was a "T" rated title! Even had a Microsoft Sidewinder to control everything. Took ages to download and install, but the install music was thrilling, and the information provided in the slides in the installer really pumped me up. I would also thumb through the manual to see the artwork / descriptions of different chassis. It was a different experience, for sure. Was too young to really understand the space opera storyline so I never really cared, and the "bad" acting kind of made them fun to watch. Distinctly remember sneaking into my parent's room around 5am MANY mornings before school so I could play a mission or two before I had to get ready for school. So Vengeance does hold a special place in my "gaming journey" or whatever, and it will always be my favorite. Mercs is buy and large a better experience in that engine. Black Knight could probably be argued to be better too (LOL) but a lot of my first mechwarrior experiences were with Vengeance, so its very special to me. Oh! Maybe its personal pref, but solely using the joystick, no keyboard, to control everything always provided me with the best control. Could always make finer adjustments when I can "stabilize" the base with my other hand.

@@roguerifter9724 I can appreciate that. I've still never played tabletop, and I think a better balance of customisability has subsequently been reached in MWO and MW5 with modding. My point about stompyness still stands though 😀

100% agree. The mechlab in other games felt clunky and it always felt weird in the other games firing lasers out of missile racks because the games weren't advanced enough to have models that updated for different weapons being installed. My ideal Mechwarrior game would be the 3025 setting from Mechwarrior. The music and atmosphere from Mechwarrior 2. The more realistic / simulation combat of Mechwarrior 3. The Mechlab from Mechwarrior 4 (well, ideally the mechlab from HBS Battletech) and the modern graphics of Mechwarrior 5...

I agree as well. I think it was a welcome change. As others have said it helps make chassis more unique instead of more tonnage = better. It isn't perfect. It does mean some chassis are left behind if they can't be made to work with the meta (seems to be gauss or LBX with LG Pulse lasers if I remember right), but it was a step in the right direction.

Totally agree. Technically you can put any weapons anywhere in universe but thoose chnges takes months according to batteltech rules not couple of days between missions.

Glad you enjoyed it friend

I was one of the only ones that wished it were more limited.

It started to grow on me, like I said it leant to a more unique feel for Mechs. However, it was frustrating just because I was so used to my own playstyle and I had to change. Go figure! I was being a brat.

Agreed with this. Not gonna lie- until I played MW5 in 2019 on Xbox One, I truly didn't appreciate how far ahead Clan technology was compared to Inner Sphere tech.

Ya, those changes actually made the mechs more lore accurate, that was what made clan mechs so special was because they had better weapons and more versatile, that eventually brought the inner sphere to build omnimechs

Mercs is great

Oh, it will. I would have done Pirates Moon but it fell to pieces due to some issues. I just bought MW5, and have all the DLC up to Dragons Gambit.

@@KeiNova nani? some bug? :( Still hoping to release though?

I have a new PC, and a different method of install so hopefully yes.@@Sp3ctre18Gaming

@@KeiNova \o/

Thank you, you're always posting these very informative comments that help me understand why things are the way they are and the universe. I just wanted to personally say, I appreciate it!

​@@KeiNovaYou're welcome. BTW, when I keep explaining some of these decisions I'm not necessarily saying it's a better choice gameplay wise. Just trying to explain where the decision likely came from. To be honest, PGI could probably make a better mech sim game if they made one from the ground up to be a mech sim game, but that would require a monumental amount of work, as the fiction, setting, and theme are what really give a game that connective tissue to make what you're doing engaging. Without it you're just doing a bunch of random activities and it gets boring very fast. It's why no one really spends all their time in Instant Action even though all of the game play is in there. As it is now they make some tweaks and concessions to take advantage of the change in medium but they largely try to stay withing the game framework. Though personally, and I know this may sound controversial, I kind of wish they'd adopt the firing circle mechanic like world of tanks uses. (Basically, the more you are moving the more spread there is.) It feels a bit like shots cluster too much into one location so survivability suffers a lot. But the current game is also tweaked to work with how things currently are so I guess it's ok. In the online version though it makes mechs like the Atlas laughably weak as they've been given a massive center torso section.

Great comment

@@michaelkelsey219 @Furluge always posts the best comments.

Absolutely, in competetive it really stood out, ecm, narc, beagle, jump jets...all the gadgets made for a good counterplay to each other. An example: we were going against some known "pop-tarts" (guys who load out the timberwolf mkII with gauss and jj's, then hide behind cover, jump up fire a shot and drop down behind cover again. Being the attackers we got to choose the map and settings...so we took a fairly open map with almost no buildings and pea soup fog. The high fog dropped visibility to about 100m, the natural terrain meant there was no sharp/square buildings they could hug up against for cover....then we loaded up with ecm(reduces enemy radar by like 200m or something),beagle(increases your own radar by 200m) and long range missiles...then in that pocket of 400 meters where they couldn't see us but we could see them we stayed and rained missiles from the fog...they really couldn't do anything. Also at the time the biggest mech we could take that had ecm, beagle and enough missiles slots for this was a hellbringer which meant we under-tonned them by about ....what 30t per player(cant remember the weights of a mkII and loki/hellbringer) The community was also great since before the match there was a couple of comments how the pea soup fog wont help by the other team but at the end they took their L and gave us props for good tactics.

I really wish I could have experienced it, honestly.

I remember running around in a Raven on that little Cityscape map on unlimited ammo servers with artillery beacons, on all the others, my rocket jenner with one artillery beacon, the target would shake so much they couldn't shoot and wouldn't notice when i'd throw down the beacon. People raged pretty hard at how I played on UA servers... hehe. Mechwarrior 4 was the very first time I did an game design work- that led to 15 Years of game Dev.

The story, I think, it mainly trying to cater to a new audience but also old MW fans, and Battletech fans. It throws a lot of characters and concepts out that are beyond just gamers. Yet, it was designed more for them. It's confusing in that way. I'm glad you liked it though, hearing other people's opinions are certainly always great for me. The whole fanbase is divided and my opinion is not end-all.

That's a great experience. I never had the chance to play MW4 online for this, so it's just a retro-review of what is playable. Your opinion is valid, and certainly welcome here.

mw2's mechs WERE all omnimechs, you played as clan vs clans.

Weren't all the Mechs in MW2 Omnimechs?

I really need to play that one. This was just Vanilla MW4 before the stand-alone Mercs, sadly. I just haven't had the time!

@@KeiNova Some of the magic would be lost without the online. MW3 was when I had 56k and people literally had guides on shooting in lag. MW4 it was less of an issue. Also you start to appreciate things like sensors active/passive. I once did a city fight where everyone went passive to ambush each other for example. The slot limits also stop people from just putting everything in the left and right torso with the exact same builds each time. I hated it at first, but it gave me reasons to do diverse mech setups

Are you referring to the BattlePods? Those were totally different games! I'd loved to have tested them, myself. I might be doing so in the next year or so, hoping I can get out to Texas for it. They still exist!

For me, I think it was just the sort of 'Mechs they used. And, if you think AC has crazy lore - MW literally has lore that extends past the games and over 80+ novels and sourcebooks over 40ish years. It is nuts. I walked into the fire doing this!

I believe they still called it the Madcat MKII in this one.

It sadly seems like this is the case with most of these games. Something ambitious is always cut out, and we get what is left. It's sad, but a big part of the history it seems.

It sounds like you had an amazingly immersive experience. I think I'd have tuned into that more if I'd have played these games less back-to-back. My constant playing of the games sort of lead to a very technical look at the series. I didn't mind the designs, honestly. I didn't find them cartoony, at all. Clean yeah, and a little bouncy - but that didn't bother me. Still felt like I was in a Mech, just a little faster.

It wasn't half bad, but you are right - I was hitting chest areas more than anything. I just didn't really notice how much.

I've heard MW4 Mercs is the best aspect of this subseries. I can't wait to actually get to it, I've heard the Lance Mate system was insane.

I play MWO but I'm excited and a little worried to try MW5. I own it, its just got some features I'm a little iffy about.

MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries was a standalone game. It was made by a completely different development studio and, after MekTek brought it back from ruin - it was given such a major overhaul that it didn't even resemble MechWarrior 4 anymore. It is, aside from name, a completely different game. I'll be getting to it. But saying Vengeance is good because that game is good is a reach. It isn't bad either, it's just middling is all. Music is about taste, so if that is how you feel - that is perfectly valid. If you watch further into the video, I do state that it led to some feeling of individuality. However, only MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries and MechWarrior 3 got it 'lore' wrong. Everything else was OmniMechs (aside from Mech1 which was all presets). That being said, assigning a Mech certain role is still up to choice - as no matter how much customization is controlled - it still leads to wacky combinations. Even here. You can strap all sorts of mismatched crap to a Mech and tweak it to move in just about any way you want as long as you have the tonnage. There are just limitations as to what weapon type goes where - not what specific weapon goes where. Ultimately, it's really great it's your favorite. But not everyone shares that opinion. I look at things as objectively as I can. MechWarrior 4: Vengeance, NOT Mercenaries, is a middling game that flickered in and out of gaming history.

They were too easy to me. I just ran ahead and took out everything and boringly waited for units to cross the map.

Thanks for the extra information, I appreciate it

I'm really up for that, I just didn't have money since I had to get a new PC. So, I wanted to demo the experience with something cheaper. In the end, it had me doing a lot of fiddling anyhow, so I might as well have just gotten the double setup I wanted to originally...

I bought a joystick for MW5 to relive the MW4 experience (had a Sidewinder Pro Force Feedback). turns out that after 20 years of keyboard and mouse gaming I hated playing with stick, even though it felt cooler.

You definitely hit on a core problem. Customization sounds great, but it often ends up making 'Mechs feel less distinct. It's tempting to optimize loadouts into the same few patterns, erasing that feeling of each 'Mech having a special role. Honestly, I'm not sure there's a perfect solution. Without customization, designs feel more unique but less flexible. With it, you gain freedom but lose some of that specialness. Most 'Mechs end up feeling superficially different, modified to play the same way. It's a frustrating trade-off, and I've grappled with it a lot.

I really want to do a video on the 3 MechAssault titles (the one being on DS). So, it'll probably happen sooner than later. Need to do those MechCommander titles as well.

I didn't say it was a misstep, I said it was hobbled. I said not including other Mechs and releasing iconic ones as Mech-Packs was a misstep. I did say later that it leant to a more unique feeling for each chassis. MW2 Mechs were supposed to be like that, they are Omni-Mechs. And water does not cool off your Mech in this game, I tested it repeatedly and even showed footage. It does not. It does in MW3, and it was one of my favorite tactics in some missions. It is cheesy, it was just plain and odd. I'm treating it like a MechWarrior game, like the rest of them I cover. It's based on the elements at hand, I don't do handholding or base anything on nostalgia. Just what it is, purely. If you like it, that is fine. I don't give special points for something being meaningful to certain individuals or time periods.

So, it does have Procedural Generation? Yikes. I wonder what that'll be like... random? Oye.

I was rocking a Microsoft Sidewinder on my dad's XP machine! The gameplay / art style really cemented my love or BT. The acting was great when the player is.. six y.o LOL

That's the Joystick I used to play this! I had to rig it a little to get it working on Windows 11 though.

Thank you so much, I'm trying my best to get better at this. I had to rewrite this script twice, due to data loss - so this one was very hard. I was worried it would show. I'm glad I've inspired you to try these out! They are certainly a journey; I'd say they all have some really big strengths and weaknesses depending on the game. Heavy Gear is something I'm getting to, I just don't have a way to get it running. It gives me a black screen sadly!

Oh, and well over 120 community made maps, where the moderate difficulty bar to reach in learning how to make them meant that the map quality was usually good.

Thanks for the long and detailed comment, it's given me a lot to think on.

Many say that, but I didn't feel it. It wasn't too different then the previous games at all, lots of tactics and whatnot still.

@@KeiNova there is still tactics and what not in a FPS. MW1-3 game play was just different

Oh, you must have gone to one of the Tesla Pods when they were touring back in the day! Those still actually exist, in two locations. One in Texas and the other, I forgot. If you want to relive it, might be worth checking out if you are close.

I suppose that exploit going out the window was great! But I'm sorry your friends weren't too happy about it.

Thanks for letting me know! I guess they just rent it out, or something.

I really wish I could have experienced it.

Oh it was so fun for it's time. PPC's were still good but they math-balanced them hard with heat and weight. ERLL were just better with their synergy with guass rifles and range at the visible limit. The only real chasis that could run a PPC effectively was the UZIEL but that thing was way too easy to kill, sooo...

Nice to see you too, haha. Thanks for watching!

I can't wait to get to it.

That was because of the lore. They were OmniMechs in most of the games. It still was more versatile, but I get what you mean.

I'd actually meant to do it earlier. However, I have to use an emulated environment to run my CD. I'm trying to use 86Box, now that I have a new and more powerful PC. So, hopefully soon. Honesty, I might ASAP as I'm getting a little burnt out on main-line MechWarrior.

@@KeiNova Good change of pace while staying in Battletech/mech games. Speaking of, you should check out Starsiege. Atmospheric as hell, S-tier world building, plus Mark Hamill voice acting 👍

I'm sorry to hear that. If I had a way to help, I'd certainly try to get you these titles.

I think I was simply confused, as I didn't understand the lore yet - or the fact that OmniMechs are supposed to be able to have anything on them, that is why they were like that in the MechWarrior 2 games. When I went to MW3, I just thought it was normal and that MW4 made a mistake - but it was actually MW3 that did.

Sadly, our goodwills suck. I really wish there was one with some of the crazy stuff I see people find online. Ours is the worst. I just grabbed what I could, because I don't have a lot of money sadly, YT isn't paying... anything. Or I'd buy a HOTAS just for some videos!

I was the same way. You have to change them in the settings, they weirdly made it have zero mouse support by default. I don't get what that is about.

I have still yet to get Earth Siege to a comfortable place with the controls. As it stands, by default the keyboard sucks badly and my Joystick won't work :/ Black Knight was mostly a story expansion, rather than anything substantial. I did a video on that, and I'd expected a lot more. Mercs is almost an entirely new game! I wish that these games all had a happy medium, rather than being tradeoffs at times. Thanks for the comment!

For MW2 it made sense, and Ghost Bear. Those were Omni-Mechs and could do that. MW2: Mercs and beyond it should have been dependent on the Mech. I liked playing it with a Joystick, I just wasn't great at it! It made it feel like a vehicle - but, I was also a terrible MechWarrior with those controls haha

In this one, you weren't really able to put anything on legs. I do sort of miss it from MW2 - but that was a feature of OmniMechs. So, I suppose it didn't fit here. I wish I'd been able to try that legendary mutliplayer - but it didn't really happen. I have MW5 - but I just haven't had a chance to play it yet!

@@KeiNova just try the 5. no weapons on legs if it isnt there from the vanilla. limited slots. a quite good lab. sadly there are mods to take this away an builf quite freely. but also mods to change engine, internals and so on.

While I don't believe that is wholly true, as simulation gaming was seen as an adult form of 'gaming' - and those who played the original games were likely well into their adult years - you are right, it really is just a game and it didn't really matter. Things weren't so serious back then.

I'll see if I can dig them up. Are they old downloads?

@@KeiNova the situaton on those has changed a lot, I might as well say they "keep changing." You may have to do some serious reseach or check out relevant MW discords, maybe including MekTek's own, of course. I guess I could try to check if you're not in them.

​@@KeiNovaThere are old downloads floating around and I'll give some info on it's history as much as I understand it and condensed so it's not a wall of text. The MekTek team made packs that over time added a lot of mechs and weapons. In 2010 they got permission from Microsoft itself to release MW4:Mercs with the MekPak, at this point it would be MekPak 3, for free which also includeded the mechs from the Clan and Inner Sphere add-ons, that lasted for three years. Some of those mechs like the Deimos would become canon. In 2013, MekTek shutdown and free distribution stopped so you technically can't legally get it or the mod but if you download it Microsoft isn't going to come knocking at your door because all it would accomplish would be bad press. People consider it abandonware at this point, although there are rumors in 2020 that the MekTek team was back together and we're making MekPak 4. The whole history of it is longer than I summerized but I believe you can find more info about the whole thing. I know some of the info is on sarna but what I mentioned is all I know off the top of my head.

Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!

Sadly, those were for the standalone expansion MW4: Mercenaries and not this branch of the game. They are practically completely different games made by different studios on the same engine.

I might be streaming it. Would it be worth a review, you think?

Man, I'd be doomed. I think I only made one joke, and it is actually IN the game. I just added the Price is Right fail music. I kid you not.

You are right, sort of a 'Rob Liefield' or Image Comics sort of look. I've probably seen Liquids work and don't even know it. And yes, I will. I might soon because I'm really getting burnt out on back-to-back MW games.

I still haven't got to Mercs yet. This is just a video about the basic game.

@@KeiNova understood. I'd like to watch that review whenever you get around to making it.

Still good. Just a little bland and boiled down in comparison to the other games and their more ambitious routes to visualization and gameplay. At this point though, I don't think anyone was going to be blown away by a MW game.

I've never heard of it. Now I'm curious! Thank you so much!

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The unlicensed MechWarrior 2 soundtrack, of course.

Seems like the 'Merc' versions of everything are usually the most beloved.

Thank you! I think!

He did, I didn't even notice it!

It's great that you enjoyed it so much.

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I noticed all the mainline entries have some sort of thing that forced them to rethink and prioritize certain elements - it always benefitted in the end, because the right focus was applied. Honestly, I think that MW5 was way too focused on graphics. I tried it and it was... something.

That was because they were Clan Mechs, Omni-Mechs. That is what they are capable of. It's cannon, I've learned.

Virtual-On... hmmm. Maybe I can give myself a brain break and work on that.

I'm 35 too and played MW2 on the PSX first as well! I wasn't aware of a wider series though, only MechCommander. I don't really agree with the social/political things going on either, so I stay FAR away from mentioning stuff like that on my channel. It doesn't have a place here at all.

Same controls, but thanks for pointing that out

Nah, they are the same. Just upscaled. Just look up any video and compare. It depends on the paint selection too, but this is a common complaint by many.

​​​@@KeiNovaWrong, I worked on the HD pack for mech4 and I've seen the size of the textures, they're the same size (512×512) just cleaned up with a more fancy newish metalic look to make it seem like its of higher quality, on the base game mechs look really rusty and old. Try reinstalling the game without the HD mech textures addon and see for yourself

Well, the Mech lab change was very divisive. It wasn't really balanced at all and you could still do ridiculous things, it was just more in line with Inner Sphere lore for the time period. I mean, look at the comments here and you'll see how divisive it is. MW3 wasn't accurate, no. But it was fun as hell. Not only that, you still faced consequences for having a completely insane load out. You would fire 4 PPCs and blow up - it was hilarious. MWO is way WAY better then this with balance and customization. Like EONS ahead of kiddy-colorded puzzle blocks for people to understand what should go where. Water does not cool, not at all. I've tested it here and in Black Knight. It was a tactic I used in MW3 to use energy weapons and keep cool in bodies of water. It does not cool here. I think I literally showed a clip of it too, which baffles me why people argue this. And, PPCs blow in this game in comparison to other games. They suck so hard, it isn't even funny.

@@KeiNova I think your game version is botched then. Water certainly does enhance cooling. I've played these games way more times than sane. However maybe you were expecting MW3 levels of cooling? Which it's not, mw4s water cooling is far more muted. I mean, I quite literally ran hot AF builds in Mercs Solaris and planted myself in water and I could alpha for days, if I step outside of the water, it's basically game over. I would recommend finding the latest patches of the game; yours might be bugged because I can certainly replicate it on my end that water does indeed cool you down faster. You are the only person who has that opinion for ppcs in this game. Clan erppcs are quite literally ton for ton the best damage and ranged weapon you can get. The specs don't lie and neither does gameplay. If you feel they are weak then you are doing something wrong. The weakest they have been is in MWO and secondarily in mw5 with inflated armour and structure values and pretty poor velocity for ppc weapons overall.

Mercs is a stand-alone game that has so many differences, it is practically a new game. This was just a review of the base game, not Mercs with all it's awesome improvements and patches. Mercs and this game are like night and day, I can tell you that much. Again, if you're comparing to MW4 Mercs, then you're talking about something that is an entirely new game. It's not even made by the same developers, this was FASA and that was Cyberlore.

I own it, but I've yet to actually play it. I heard recently it has procedural generation?

Yeah, the game is a mostly a sandbox game where you travel the inner sphere and take on contracts. This means that it needs a procedural mission, and by extention, terrain generation. The story missions and several of the quest chains are hand crafted, but the way the terrain works put some restrictions on what can be done even for those. Piranha games actually stated that one of the reasons MW5 Clans is a separate game, is so they can get rid of many of MW5 Mercs technical limitations, such as the ones on level design. I still love MW5 very much, with a couple of mods, such as YAML, Von Bioms and Coyote Missions, and a nice HOTAS the game becomes an amazing Mechwarrior sandbox and simulator experience.

Originally there were two main mission line in Mechwarrior 4 according to the design document. One Steiner one Davion. The davion one got made. My guess it was time constrains. Steiner was supposed to have completely different music too.

I think the problem was that every game assumes the player knows the Battletech IP. That was never the case, some people didn't even know what Battletech was. So, it's always like the complete story is out of reach. It took me a long time to even get what they were talking about when it came to the Lyran Alliance and the way they threw around words like Archon and whatnot. It wasn't easy to understand at all - even with this being the easiest game to understand.

It could be fun and worth checking out. Consider it bookmarked. Very smart way to post a link, I might add.

Hope you enjoy the experience!@@KeiNova And thanks, but this was pretty normal when RU-vid didn't allow links at all, haha. I'm not even sure it's necessary now but I just stick to the habit.

I never put PPCs on legs and that, it never clicked to me that that could be done. But the presence of customization leads to chaos no matter what, even if it's with color coded bays. Mech 2 and Ghost Bear though were lore accurate, as they were OmniMechs.

@@KeiNova Sounds good. Cheers!

In a lot of ways, yes. Also, nice profile pic! I have the picture disc 2XLP of Mars to Sirus.