Don't think just bc this is my take that I absolutely hate Epic Games or Rocket League, it's just been hard to watch some of these decisions being made, especially since its slow decline from 2020. also sorry i sound weird its hard to talk bc i just got braces, lol.
I hate seeing where this game is going the only good thing was the demo thing. That's it . . . idk what else they did cause every time I go to the item shop I see titanium white of something that used to be so rare and hard to get that I'm just like "Oh well there goes the value and excitement of that item" it used to be fun wishing to get something you know had tons of value like a titanium white octane or dominus I used to really want the dominus. But now all the joy and excitement of opening drops went away. I'm by no means a casual player either it was just fun trying to get one while taking a break. I've always wanted to trade up to a alpha cap I didn't want the boost, antenna, wheels etc. Just the cap but now I can't get one. Sure I could use bakkes mod but the real thing was way cooler to have it basically gave you aura on the field.
For what it's worth, I genuinely do believe this game is trending upwards again. Obviously there's been a decline in players since the start of Free-To-Play, since there was an unsustainable BOOM of new players, but I think they've been making changes that are good for the game (Boost meter in nameplate, demo camera, etc). Not only that, but even this last weekend on twitter I was seeing people who have never watched Rocket League in their life, talking about how they tuned in and were on the edge of their seat the entire time. With the esport announcing new format changes, alongside a 1v1 tournament that's officially part of RLCS, I think the esport is in a good place as well. And yes, I have been sponsored by Epic to make some short form videos in the past, but I do also genuinely believe in the game, and just because other creators make videos that are sponsored by Epic, that does not mean that they are selling their soul. I have talked to alot of them and some are not happy, but countless others are genuinely hopeful for the future of the game. (This comment was not sponsored by Epic Games)
I do agree that Epic isn't doing everything wrong, they're just trying to appeal to new players mostly, and the changes to the boost and demos I did appreciate. It's the fact that they are seemingly neglecting the people who have been here since day one, with taking out trading, their lazy attempts at remaking maps, and the collabs we don't really need. This sudden influx of sponsoring people came across to me as a desperate move, and was the red flag that made me make this video.
they're headed in the right direction for sure, but they have a long way to go. with the amount of resources they have, you would expect to see *significant* growth over the past few years. we haven't got that. (i probably will never be sponsored for voicing my opinions, but if it benefits the state of the game, i don't mind)
it wouldve still had the spike in players like free to play just the game would stay the same price as before(reason why i say that is because rocket league was blowing up on yt more and more same as on tiktok) another point trading would still be in play and we'd still have good trading from nothing to something vid's along with john sandman, and another point after ftp was announced the ppl mainly downloading the game once it was announced were fortnite players... which ended up stunting the ranked scene like rubberbanding on a highway, and made the toxicity spike, psyonix had perfect control of the game and wouldve most likely taken inspo from epic games ranks and implemented them into rl themselves...
Psyonix is still maintaining the game, Epic bought the company to make money (duh). If you're playing fortnite and rocket league at the same time it's the best thing a company could've done.
@@Walter_Epic saved fall guys tbh. The company who made it didn’t even expect it to become that large so they had zero ideas on new content. Over 90% of the non creator made mini games were made after epic bought fall guys.
Removing trading was the worst idea ever. Now all those duplicate black market things I have can’t be traded in for something I don’t have/something I want. They could make it up to us by adding a new dropshot map :))))))
I really hope they do something about duplicate items in inventory. My tournament black markets has like 5 stacks of the same thing for no reason at all.
Just want to note, Psyonix still owns Rocket League, they didn't sell it off to Epic. Epic took Psyonix over. They completely bought out the whole studio and made it a subsidiary of EG.
@@DriftKingSBA There's a difference between buying a game and buying a company who has a game. With the former, Psyonix could theoretically buy it back. With the latter, with reality, Psyonix is stuck unless Epic decides otherwise.
I unsubscribed from every single youtuber who lies about a product they sponsor, and they clearly know they are lying here. I can accept that sometimes people make mistakes with sponsors, but in this case, every single one of them is an expert in this product, and by lying to the audience they lost all my respect.
They are getting paid a lot of money, and aren’t being told to do something that obscure. All they are doing is talking about the good things (which are actually great) and making them sound like more than it. I’m just saying the creators are being payed a lot of money just to talk about the good things of rocket league, and the good things are actually good they just mean nothing in the long run.
Idrc if you lose respect for musty or the other creator, but cbell deserves respect. Cbell has made entire videos on and mentioned in other videos that he hasn’t given up on rocket league. Rocket league added cool things we’ve wanted for a long time. Despite that not meaning anything in the long run, rocket league did get better in the way that he cares about. Cbell isn’t just blatantly lying about rocket league
Good and the community should be against to epic games and the creators we need a boycott I been saying many time and the game too it’s my right to protest and speak the truth
Offering a different take here, but I saw these sponsored vids as a sign that things will be looking up in Rocket League. They've FINALLY made actual gameplay changes recently, with the team boost graphic and the demos, and now they're investing in the content creators to get people talking about the game again. I think it's a sign that they have big plans in place, or else they wouldn't be investing in these sponsored videos. A lot of games sponsor RU-vidrs when before they announce or release a string of big updates, so I think we just gotta hang tight and see what the go is before calling Epic desperate. Although maybe my hopes are too high. Also, I don't think people should be judging these RU-vidrs for taking the deal. Rocket League content is barren these days, there's hardly any original content and the game is dying. It must be pretty rough out there for guys like cbell, so I'm glad they were able to hit the jackpot with a big sponsor like that, they've earned it after all these years.
they dont have big plans... they released a new map and a shitty rocket pass, been weeks since new season and havent seen a update since... psyonix made consistent updates mostly weekly-monthly whereas rl makes updates every new season it seems, the thought put into the game by devs now its so dry and bland compared to the love for the community psyonix showed
@@Foil_aep I'm not saying Epic hasn't been terrible in the past, I'm saying that the game looks to finally be getting some development now. They release two pretty great gameplay changes in the past few months, I don't think it ends there.
let me put it this way, rocket league isnt a game you play for the updates and new content, its a game you play for the competitive and realistic competition and improving as a player.
Not going to lie, Rocket League right now is in an upwards trend, with good QoL updates, better communication, RLCS just got a bigger prizepool, shorter off season, crl is back, etc, along with that, there's an extremely active newer playerbase. Numbers are at the moment, comparable to what they were when trading was a thing. Almost half a million. What's really killing Rocket League is the negativity from the community. Rocket League is currently transitioning from their old playerbase to a younger newer one. And, although understandable, the old playerbase screaming that it's dead and screwed is doing more damage than epic could ever do. But yall are not ready for that conversation...
Eh. Game is definitely dying lol. I mean they started hiding the population stats in game as well as trading dropshot and snowday off every other season due to low player counts.
It's not like Psyonix was great at managing Rocket League before Epic bought it tbh. Been playing since 2015 and I feel like besides trading removal it's pretty much the same.
yeah, but Psyonix still didn't make decisions that were this widely disliked. they also had really good events about every month, now its just the same one recycled.
I agree. Aside from removing trading, Psyonix treated the game similarly. It also took them a long time to make changes and they didn't add much content in their latter years. I think it's way too easy (and ignorant) to say that everything was better under Psyonix. That doesn't excuse Epic games of course.
37 y/o dedicated rocket league player since season one. I’m absolutely garbage at the game, can get past C2. And that’s okay. I enjoy the game. But I’m about done with Rocket League at this point. All those years and hours(hours that didn’t do me any good 😂) down the drain.
Nah man the game is trending uowards. New map that’s actually good, just had an awesome worlds, announcements to rlcs for next year. Partnering with leth in the middle of rlcs is is actually huge, they’ve been pretty cautious to partner with anyone that changes their game. It’s gonna get better
good video, i like these types of videos made by small creators, it really gives you a genuine take on what the community is feeling, every new map has been [insert map] with grass!?! and of course with trading removed theres no point in the grind for loot
completely right. Psyonix was the perfect company for rocket league and rocket league was the perfect game for Psyonix. The only major changes epic games made to rocket league was removing creates (which i agree with actually) and removing trading. They just don't do anything. The player base is screaming at epic games and they pretend not to hear as rocket league dies a slow and painful death.
ur glazing bro, eg added tourneys, boost meter, demo cam, upgraded the ui(and then downgraded it sometime later), added new servers(questionable), and some other stuff i cant think of rn still annoyed they removed trading ofc but u defo dont play rl or are really low rank or champ 2/gc1 if u think they haven’t added a single major change to the game
@@dergus8833 boost meter and demo cam are massive for solo q, i think epic is dumb asl even as a fn and rl player for multiple years(they make really bad changes to fn too but not as bad as rl tbf), but like u cant pretend like if ur a fairly decent rank those arent helpful asf
@@lemon66111 I agree they are super helpful, and I reckon it should have been added ages ago, even by psyonix. But we expected that after rocket league was bought by psyonix, it would improve in quality. And... it just hasn't. Realistically, the boost metre and demo cam are super easy things to implement, I'm grateful but I'm not gonna praise epic for adding them.
One thing that I don't get at all is........... If Epic Games still wants to make money from this game, why do they mostly put terrible items in the item shop? Not to mention the fact that it hurts content creators with Epic Creator Codes, due to the fact that no one wants to buy the terrible items. Great first time vid BTW. You earned a like and a sub from me.
Buying rocket league items from fortnite is actually better since you get all the colors for low af price. They should do something about rocket league item shop aswell. Because they are just too expensive just for a single color.
There also isn't much players in online modes sometimes so the player count decreased most likely because of this, which means that matchmaking can take even 15 minutes (atleast in EU)
Only two things that could really add to the game is some new club mechanic like club tournies, club battles/ranked mode, or possibly even something like splatoon where players can choose two different sides and try to raise points for their side. The other thing be adding the option for players to play custom maps without having to setup the server stuff on their own.
Nice video homie, Yeah I noticed those sponsored videos was wondering what that was about. It sux how epic games took over and drove it into the ground. Literally.
The only good thing that came from epic owning the game is all the real car manufacturers wanting to partner and put their cars in the game. That’s it though
Maybe this is just me, but I wish we get a chance to get some credits for those who dont own the premium pass. Lets say like 200 credits per season (free pass). It would give us a chance to save up and to buy the premium pass.
No, they know how to make it better. They just choose not to do it because they are so greedy that theyre willing to risk people not liking them to take more money
If psyonix kept it it would have trading, probably a thing where you could down grade stuff like a duplicate black market for a rare item of your choice or like five rare items.
Unfortunately after almost 2,000hrs of Rocket League I'm at the point where I would like to see a refesh of the game, a change in how the ranking system works as well as a few other things. A lot of people claim that RL doesnt need much to survive because of how basic it is to play and the price for entry doesn't cost much except time to learn mechanics. I'm curious what the future holds for a game that I have invested so much time into. CALCULATED!
that’s interesting. I didn’t think people thought ranked need to be rethought and redone completely.. but i can understand why. I’m a high gc caliber player, and could push for ssl but its too lame imo especially solo queuing. Here’s what i’d do: Ranked I do believe there is room to change some things in the ranked system. From what i see, washed Gcs all chill in C3 or sometimes lower because they don’t wanna push their limits. that’s fine, but the skill discrepancy between c2 and gc is pretty damn apparent, then from there on it’s just a clash of playstyles, which imo is very boring (They air dribble bump all the time, never freestyle, and shoot boring shots because that’s what you do to win, play cringe over skill) In threes for a championship that’s understandable but yeah toxic. But that’s outside my reign of talk because most pros don’t even enjoy how the game plays at a high level. Adding a rank might do it, but i don’t believe so. Real champs are going against many gcs in c2-3, and i can see why they get upset having a real bot c2 vs two gcs.. There needs to be an identifier of if you hit gc last season, and only let you play in gc until you lose it by losing many times in a row, like 10. Then you need 10 after getting locked at c3 to solidly your gc back. Extra: Ball color for console, custom things like car parts maybe, custom decals, custom stadiums, more tournaments for $, more incentive for grinding a rank. A lot of these things would benefit but there’s not much room to make things happen in this game content wise. Game modes maybe.
pretty on character for EPIC though... I mean they're literally trying to throw money at the EGS vs Steam situation and buy their way into market share and they just do the same with RL. Instead of making a good product they just try to purchase market share.
The removing of trading was obviously a change that would only benefit Epic Games, but apart from that, I'm not really sure exactly what's so bad about Rocket League right now compared to say 2019 pre Epic Games? I'm hovering around Diamond/Champ, so I can't speak for the top 1% on how the game actually is up there. But I'm seeing less smurfs right now than I've done in years.
Yeah I'm kinda feeling the opposite a bit. After the esport team layoffs and the shortening of the season I was a bit disappointed, but the new changes and the demo cam are a good sign for the future.
>actively harms game >why is game dying? Yes I’m aware there have been some positive changes, just making fun of the amount of dumb stuff that’s been done
Dude I wish this game was community owned, we could make the game better as a whole community and work together for a better and bigger game. Or atleast a company that listens to the community and gives us opportunities to make cosmetics and stuff. We could also have trading back and keep rocket racing, (an already dead game mode of fortnite.) and instead of just updating the game for small purchases and stuff like that and just make the experience better. I’m not hating on epic in anyway at all but I just needed to get this out of my head because of epic doesn’t start turning their attention to rocket league and see other player bases that aren’t fortnite, in a few years this game could die out.
@@DeSch0ft I know. Really disappointing and sad knowing that we as a community can run this game MILES and I mean MILES better than epic does. But, it is what it is. Who knows, maybe some other company might buy this game and revive this ghost town. Or, maybe they will trash it just like epic. But, this is my opinion as a player and what I have came to conclude over the years. Very upsetting
If I am psyonix i too would have sold the game. It is what it is. It’s a better decision for them to get that bag and then dip out. Player base would’ve declined either way after like years
nah first discontinuue rocket racing nobody plays that anyways if they switch rr rocket league will gain a load more players back for trading like they are removing content not adding.. (except adding grass on a map and calling it a season)
pretty sure most of the players that play rovket racing are probably just fortnite players - so idk if rl would gain any players back, theyd probably just go back to playing normal fortnite
@@alexthesb2241 bro rocket racing barely has any players even in fortnight. If they add trading back then rl players who left might come (maybe picapixel or others)
as long as im playing rocketleague, masses of players been complaining. i remember before epic took over it was basicly same thing as now. im also not a fan of the F2P era and what it did to the game, and all changes after that. but lets not pretend the downfall is due to epic and psyonics was all that good. im a simple man, the basegame is pretty much same thing since the day i first played.
What new content do you need? Trading back is the only thing. The core gameplay loop is just fine. It's rocket league I don't understand why people complain about new content in a 10 year old game. What do you need, new extra modes? A story mode? New cosmetics....
I agree that epic should have used that money for something else, because they have made some small improvements this year, even if they were few and far between, and some creator would have made some form of video talking about rocket league improving slightly anyway, but now they’ve been forced to say it’s getting better and not continue to give constructive criticism as they’ve always done. The demo changes and recent RLCS announcement were both enough to say “good job epic/Psyonix more of this please,” but now we’ve got, “epic is so good they’re listening completely and adding new content”
The core game is fun, but epic keep dumbing everything down because of their PG approach. We don’t get new content, servers and lag is awful (especially on console) tournament items have declined and they tried to sell the free twitch drops for 1k credits in the shop. Epic don’t i believe care my feeling is that they bought Psyonix to gain the licensing so it could be added into their main focus Fortnite. I hope to be wrong but i don’t see this game improving, The rlcs scene is amazing atm but pro’s are getting older and eventually we won’t have many new ones it’s a shame because RL is unique and one of a kind.
The only thing I'd ask for is Bakkes Mod on Consoles also more freedom on console to remap more of the controller binds I play PC but when I go out I bring my switch with me. Would be nice to have the same controller scheme.
What new content do you want my man? Cosmetics and music is the content of this game, you can buy it, or get via boxes. You want a new car? (That is gonna land is some of existing hitbox categories...you could argue thats nothing new) Want a new map (thats gona have the same shape as any other map) Give me an example of new content that doesnt fit in any existing category without shaking the game to its core (and trust me, you dont want to shake the game like that, thats one of the biggest reasons why ow2 failed) And truth to be told, I don't mind that at all in a game like RL, but in ow2 for example, the lack of content that you talk about, now that is a huge problem. Oh yeah, in case someone thinks otherwise... THIS COMMENT IS NOT SPONSORED BY EPIC GAMES
They can make rocket league good again. They can return ownership back to Psyonix, its no surprise epic games isn't listening to their player base they did the same thing with Fortnite and that's why it died now RL is gonna die the same way.
the game is good there just isn’t much NEW content. doesn’t mean the game is bad though! i can’t believe they’re paying people to pretend like the game is getting new content though
It was good man, no need to be self deprecating lmao. Unfortunately I am one of the many players that Shuns Epic with all their heart at this point. Cause…..I knew…..I knew this was going to happen. It was written all over the walls of the internet, and of the history of bigass publishers/companies buying the properties for a game promising great things then promptly starting to Break that game down brick for brick until it’s a hollow shell of a hollow husk of what it once used to be…a good game with people who played the game actually being able to…have fun, and not constantly be reminded that “oh, the game I love is dying and it’s going to get worse”….so I quit. I had a 1000 hours in this game. It was a good time, but..I had to move on. Great video though. Don’t stop making content dude. I don’t know how RU-vid recommended this video considering the views and stuff, i sure am happy that they did. Just keep going and you’ll do very well, Your voice is very pleasing to listen too, much like people like Wayton Pilkin, Musty, Sunless Khan, etc.
Feels like RL is living from the eSport stuff unfortunately. I only play up my Rocket pass til im done with the 1000 to get it free next season then thats it. I still love watching RLCS however. It´s the same for me with League of Legends. I don´t really like the game anymore but im enjoying watching pro eSports a lot.
Bro, this is why epic games sucks. They only care about 1 GAME, and that’s Fortnite. They just absolutely dumped every other game that they have ever owned I swear 😭 They don’t even add any actually good new content anymore (the last time they did that was back in season 6 when they added knockout). They just put new dlc’s that nobody asked for or cares about, and it makes me want to cry 😭😭😭
Only real complaints would be server issues and ranking-system-issues on my side (its too accessible for smurfs in my opinion)...everything else is actually not that important to me and im having more and more fun with the game the longer i play it...could stay the same game content-wise for another 50 years in my opinion ^^' I mean...the fun in RL is not the variance of basic content but how ridiculously hard it is and how creative the community is. To me RL is just a basic framework that a bunch of weirdos get creative in.
I mean every game pays its top content creators by sponsering there video's nothing new. The youtuber's choose to accept the offers as well no one forced them to that's something you must've forgotten about. And Phyonix still makes the game other then trading being removed because of the Fortnite merge because of Epic. Phyonix still hasn't released any new details about "Rocket League 2" when it was first revealed we were getting it 5 years ago.
Well when your competitive scene only racks in a lil over 100k views you focus on your better games with a real player base fncs and lan for Fortnite we’re very close together as well as they had to fight 3 lawsuits in which all there games lacked content
I dont underatand what content people are crying for here. RL is a competitive game at its core, cars playing football,and that is the only thing there is and there should be. Skill celling is infinite, that alone is enough for me. Honestly, if it was up to me Id completely remove everything but the 3 standard formats ( ranked/casual 1s, 2s and 3s ). Look at CS, its the same game from 1999 with newer models every few years, the core gameplay is completely the same and its good just the way it is. And I cant understand people saying they would like a zombie mode cs or some bullshit, thats just absurd to me. If you want a zombie game, play a zombie game, simple.
Psyonix was never good tbh. And they actually still work on the game. It’s just owned under epic. It gave them more money to work with actually. They make moves constantly it’s mainly not moves we as players like. (Removing keys, removing trading, rotating item shop instead of a big open item shop. A ridiculous amount of items with not much care put into them, rocket racing being on the fortnite launcher and not the rocket league launcher) but at the end of the day, they do make moves which will keep the game alive enough bc at its bare bones it’s a unique great game with a limitless skill ceiling. Things that weren’t mentioned over the years which are good AND bad. Server updates (many are still cheeks), smurfing never being a bannable offense, rocket racing not being in rocket league, pay for pro players changing at the top all the way to the bottom which is bad for the top end of players but good for scrubs that just qualify for a quick buck, removal of rocket labs, removal of a competitive mode for a season at a time, removal of rocket labs, not hiring people to create alternative game modes or a sandbox creative mode at the least so people could create downloadable game modes across platforms,… BUT they made the game free to play. Revamped and re-added game chat, added demo cam, added a team boost symbol. So not all horrible. Every 4 years they really buckle down and add a few things over a course of a month. Too bad we just experienced it and that’s the end of it
Well at least its fun , in other games is much worse , for example in apex the game is literally hell because of the matchmaking . Another example is cod which its just a joke compared to how it was years ago.
THE SERVERS ARE BAD, toxic players dont get banned, i win vs diamonds and Champs but im Platin ( ranked is destroyed) , AFK mates, smurfs in every rank, item shop dont have all items.What a save exist
but what could they do at this point.... a new skin on a turd is still a turd. the community is horrible. FF left and right. throwing games. unless you are partied up and playing well together, this game is horrible. there's nothing left to this game. a huge updated to UE5 maybe already toooooo late anyway. I could care less about the underglow now. There's no trading then what's the point of collecting anything. They literally sucked every single ounce of fun out of this game.
haters gonna hate. Psyonix didnt do much with Rocket League either, they added lootboxes to the game... Epic made a lot of good changes that some people love to Ignore as much as possible. ANd they also did things that i very much dislike. Rocket League is a competetive Esport. How much CoNtEnT did starcraft Broodwar added? or Starcraft 2? HOw muich CSGO? how much LoL? i know they are different types of games you cant compare them 1:1 but the Main Game stays the same and is the main reason why people play it. I Think Psyonix could do more with Rocket League but people overreact, maybe its jsut to get People to watch their videos and commenting on it like i did right here. EZ Clicks i guess.
This is a lot of unsubstantiated bull. Psyonix didn't "sell out", they were bought. RL wouldn't be at the level it is now without Epic. Sure they removed trading, and that was stupid. But, that was a fringe part of the community to begin with. Fact is, RL is such a hard game to master, and high level is just getting better, and if you don't commit you fall behind. This "decline" would have happened with or without Epic's fingers in the pot.
For what it's worth, I'm glad you weren't sponsored by Epic and gave your opinion freely. Regardless of what I do and don't agree with. Maybe, eventually, Epic will listen to the little guys and not the people they pay to say good stuff about them.
