This is definitely one of the more informative YGO channels. I appreciate that. Even the still screen voice overs are great because it's better to learn with visuals and audio than just audio alone. I came here because i want to build a functional fairy deck(sucks at the moment) and their bread and butter seems to be negation. On a side note: is the old man in the Solemn cards supposed to be god or?
Just to settle that arugment we had earlier. Light and Darkness Dragon negates activations but doesn't destroy cards. Check the rulings. If the activation of a Continuous Spell Card, Continuous Trap Card or a card that remains on the field like "Swords of Revealing Light" is negated by the effect of "Light and Darkness Dragon", those cards are sent to the Graveyard. GG?
tl;dr summary at end: Well, one thing that's been bugging me for a while is summon negations. Specifically, most of them (Solemn brigade, Horn of Heaven family) can negate a summon, and if you do, destroy it. Which makes me want to think the negation and destruction are separate, which begs the question: what about monsters that can't be destroyed by card effects? Best as I understand it, the monster that can't be destroyed is still sent to the GY when its summon is negated, but now it doesn't count as being destroyed. If so, I would then think in contrast floaters would activate when destroyed by the 2nd part of the negation effect. Except it was never properly summoned and therefore wasn't on the field to float. Basically, what's the point of "negate a summon, and if you do, destroy it?" What's the difference between that common wording and a hypothetical "negate the summon."
If a card cannot be destroyed by card effects , this is a continuous effect that applies while its on the field. Nowhere else. If a summon is negated, the monster is not on the field at the time.
I'm a filthy Melodious player. What negates their stuff if I may ask as I've come into quite a few spots when testing the build where I'm not sure if my opponent's card is actually shutting down my cards or not.
So I'm not the only one! :D The Melodious monsters are treated the same as Jinzo; if you can't negate the summon, the effect is immediately applied and is always active. You can't use Bottomless Trap Hole on Jinzo; similarly, if you Special Summon Elegy, her effect is applied immediately. Same with Aria. You can pierce over the Melodious monsters, and they can be shuffled back by something like Drowning Mirror Force that doesn't target, but their effects can't actually be negated once they're on the field save for a mass-negation effect like Zerofyne (since it specifically says "face-up card(s)") to stop them all at the same time or something like Madolche Queen Tiramasu that doesn't target or destroy them. Also, summoning Aria with Call of the Haunted chained to a targeting effect will cause her effect to be active before the card targeting her resolves, and the targeting effect will fizzle. yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Melodious ...............And when the hell are we going to finally get Ostinato?!?!?!?!?! :P
So, this ties in to your earlier videos about spell speeds, as well: Can I negate a negate attack/mirror force with 7 tools of the bandit, or any other counter trap?
No, you can only add a "Red-Eyes" monster with that effect. Also, Black Stone of Legend specifically says "use", so if the first effect is Striked, you can't use the second one that turn.
Ruling question: if judgment Dragon used it's effect by paying 1000, and thousands blades is in the grave, would blades special summon before the field gets destroyed by JDs effect or after?
So I have 3 questions that I'd like some clarification on, 2 of which are for friends to help them understand a bit and 1 to kinda solve a debate between a friend and I. Footnote that I like to play both meta and rogue, and most of my friends prefer older/rogue styled decks, so there may be some uncommon scenarios here but here goes. 1. Friend A is using Atlantean/Mermails and has Legendary Ocean in play, I go to attack and he activates Tornado Wall to reduce battle dmg (old af but his deck and his choice), I chain MST to destroy Tornado Wall - with the rulings of chaining effects, would MST destroying Tornado Wall stop the prevented battle dmg? 2. Friend B has 1 monster face down and I have 2 monsters - during my battle phase, I declare an attack on his face down monster and he activates Call of the Haunted, am I able to now choose between attacking the initial target, changing the attack target to the newly summoned monster, or to cancel that monster's attack all together? You briefly mentioned it around the 2:10 mark and I was wondering if that ruling could be expanded on a bit. 3. Friend C is playing Six Samurai's. He has Great Shogun Shien and LSS Shi En on the field and I have Magic Cylinder and Mirror Force set - during his battle phase, he declares an attack on a monster I control and I activate Magic Cylinder and he chains Shi En's effect to negate Magic Cylinder. Since he negated the activation of Magic Cylinder, am I able to activate the Mirror Force that is still set or does the limit of one Spell/Trap activation from Great Shogun Shien still apply to the negated Magic Cylinder? I am aware of the rulings for the first 2 scenarios given, it's more to show any responses given to my friends so they know the rulings and that I'm not just being a dick to them. Sorry that this is such a long comment, but fuck this game can be so finicky and situational at times.
I know this is a little late and probably was explained already in the video but if i have shogun shien on the field and a 6 samurai shi en and i negate one of my opponents spells/traps can he activate anotherone?
If you negate the effect of Pot of Desires, does your opponent still banish the top 10 cards of the deck because it was the cost? Or is the cost too negated?
Can you explain the difference of what warning can negate compared to strike and maybe other counter trap cards like them (Like the horns counter trap cards)
Divine Genesis Warning negates any summon or effect that would special summon. Strike cannot negate normal summons, or summons by the effect of a spell/trap card. Grand horn can only negate summons that are not the result of an activated effect. Pendulum, xyz, synchro, link and also stuff like BLS and Linkslayer that dont ACTIVATE but can summon themselves.
One other ruling question, not necessarily negating but I'm just unsure of it...if Cyber Dragon Infinity is destroyed by an opponent's card effect while Nova is being used as a material, do I still get to special summon a machine type fusion from the Extra Deck?
Nova is sent to grave by mechanics, not your opponents card... The only way to get Nova's effect to activate as an xyz material is if your opponent uses a card that discards *specifically* xyz material. (I.e. if a card says to remove all xyz material from 1 monster, and they choose infinity, they sent nova to grave so you can use the effect)
Jason Ortiz that is incorrect. Nova states that it has to be sent "while in your possession" and XYZ material is not in your possession. So the same goes for the original question, you would not get the summon if Cyber Dragon Infinity was destroyed since Nova isn't even technically on the field if attached to CDI as material
But Anti-Magic Arrows (a quick play spell which stops your opponent from activating spell or trap cards) has been ruled to stop the banish effect of an already face up Amazoness Onslaught.
grimwing gaming Herald of perfection is the ultimate negator Hail to the Herald (Cant negated everything but is probably the ultimate card when it comes to negating)
Yes thats why I said he cant negate everythig. But he is still the ultimate negator as an individual card. Besides herald of ultimateness can negate special summons.
This doesn't really have anything to do with negation, but if I summon gem Knight seraphinite, use my additional normal summon, then use my normal normal summon to summon Phantom of Chaos then you use Phantom of Chaos Effect to copy seraphinite effect by banishing it from the graveyard can I then get another normal summon? Gem knight Seraphinites text says you can only gain that effect once per turn, but will it still apply if Phantom of chaos is taking on the effect?
double summon + seraphinite = 3 normal summons Seraphinite + Eidos the underworld squire + Mausoleum of white + balancer lord + Aromage Jasmine? -> Thats just 2 normal summons. the standard one and the extra one. These don't stack.
Okay easy way to explain it, chain link 1 raigeki, chain link 2 dark bribe, chain link 3 dark bribe. So dark bribe will negate dark bribe and raigeki will resolve and the person that activated chain link 2 dark bribe will draw a card but the other player wont.
Wait, so the batteryman AA trap combo doesnt work anymore? Place one 1k atk on the field and when they attack revive so they attack a 3K, but then it would become a replay?
can you do a tutorial on what DOES legally summon each of the Meklord monsters, or at least reply to this comment? I don't know exactly IF me using Limiter Removal DOES let me summon Wisel to my field when Limiter Removal destroys stuff, I'm pretty sure it does, but I wanted someone else to help me check.
My friends and I got back into yu-gi-oh recently. We were using MST to negate EVERYTHING. It became the best card we used. Dave, please tell me my friends and I aren’t the only ones who though MST negated spells/traps lol
koss41 tell him this is the card effect say negate card effect then it can negate card effects If it say destroy a card on the field, but there is no text saying it can negate then it can’t negate a card effect. Destroy is just destroy you can still actives the spell/trap card when it’s been destroy. Well for spells it have to be quick spell to activate while it got destroyed it can still active it effect.
Dom 205 if it says "sent from the field to the graveyard, negating the activation of a spell/trap or summon then it doesnt count as being placed on the field, so it wont activate. Using something like divine wrath to negate a monster effect while it has been summoned, then its GY effect still activates. Same thing if a card says "sent to the graveyard" without mentioning the field. I think
Malik Blishtar best example is pendulum magicians. If there destroyed they get effects of you solemn one of those effects it gets sent to to the graveyard and since it was destroyed again so it's effect activates again
Dave I require your knowledge!!! If my opponent my dragon spirit of white or my blue eyes spirit dragon and I use their effect to tag out, does my opponent get to redeclare the attack? Also, if my opponent summons Destrudo, and I sing my parody, does it get destroyed? :)
Manuel Martinez This is correct. Negated activations dont "count" toward your number of activations. Negated activations do "count" towards your number of "uses"
Jayson Sansa just for technicality when you negate an effect, the whole effect is negated. But cards like Proxy Dragon or Return of the Dragon Lords dont negate stuff. Butttt, when you get to the point where you would destroy the card, you just do this other thing instead. Ill also note that you cannot combine these effects, for instance you cannot redirect the destruction from raigeki break with proxy dragon to a dragon you control and then protect that dragon with returns graveyard protection. You can only "do this instead" once at a given moment, and it has to be done (proxy cant pop sleeper equipped with resort because it cant be destroyed.
Opponent has uses eternal soul it's face up and he activates it to summon dark magician would dark bribe negate ( can they use eternal souls effect on my turn if it face up already)
Davinator1212 Thanks. I am running a Raidraptor deck, and unaffected is kind of strange. Do things like Skill Drain being on the field before it make it affected by other cards or no?
Wording it's the key... since strike says if a monster WOULD be special summoned, the activation of the card happens before the summon of Ultimate Falcon resolves, it doesn't apply it's effect yet. (This case is only if ultimate falcon summon was inherent and not by a RUM) You can't Strike a XYZ monster summoned via RUM because Strike miss the timing. (But you can negate the RUM with Solemn Warning).
Davinator1212 because sometimes I get cough up on magic rulings so I think it doesn't. >< mostly because cheaters have told me it doesn't back when it first came out. V.v
I had a argument with a guy on Dueling book: He destroyed my Shadow Six Sam Fuhma by battle, I activated the effect and special summoned Shadow Six Sam Kizaru from the deck. I attempted to activate the effect and he tried to chain Lost Wind to negate it. At that point i knew he couldn't do it because you can't activate cards that target like that after damage calcultation (althought I'm sure you can drop ash blossom). The guy insisted and quit in the end. I used to get this to when people attack Abysslinde, i summon Abysspike and they try to Breakthrough skill it. Can someone confirm that rulling for me?
Does "no u" negate cards like "hella gay deflecting shield", or does it only counter "the person below is hella gay"? And if it doesn't, should I be running more "no no u"s and "hella gay deflector buster drills"? Please, these questions need answering for a few discords I'm in.
if i had an already face up blue eyes altern and activated his effect to pop a monster but my opp chained solemn strike so i banished my return of the dragon lords from grave to protect him, can i attack with him this turn or not? love from lebanon
Aranethon Solemn Strike negates activations, so the part that says "This card cannot attack the turn this effect is activated." If you use Solemn Strike, then its treated as having never been activated and can attack.
Haven't seen the video yet, but specifically, it's got to do with the wording of cards. Anything that says "use this effect once per turn" can only be used once that turn even if negated, while if a card that says "activate this card once per turn" is negated, it's considered to have not been activated this turn meaning you can activate another copy
For cards with proper Problem Solving Card Text. An activated effect follows this template. : ; . For monsters there isnt always a cost and targeting and for spell cards there isnt always a condition or cost and targeting. if there is a part before the semi-colon, you have to do that when you decide to activate the effect, before anyone including you can activate or "chain" any other effect to it. If there is no cost or targeting, you dont do anything the card says until the opponent has decided not to respond or you get to its part of the chain and its time to do the effect.
If a monster's effect is negated on the field and the negated monster leaves the field is its effects still negated and if not what would have to happened for them to stay negated
Usually it's the wording on the card doing the negating. Something like Skill Drain wouldn't negate effects that activate in the grave, while something like Called By the Grave negates the everything
@@Aranethon so for example if EL Shaddoll Apkallone used its effect to negate a targeted face up card on the field, if that targeted card eg. Keeper of the shrine was sent to the graveyard would it still be able to use its graveyard effect
@@spaceshadow1222 in that case, because it says "negates it's effects" (in relation to that faceup card) it would still be able to activate effects in the grave
Attack goes through, 1 example of this is if a Masterpeace is unaffected by trap cards then cards like mirror force, negate attack and quaking mirror force won't do anything because Masterpeace is unaffected.
Brett But what happens if I activate Threating Roar which says "Your opponent cannot declare an attack this turn" Can a monster that says it's unaffected by card effects still attack or no.
Wouldn’t “negate attack” work on an unaffected monster because it also ends the battle phase? Maybe you would still get hit and then the battle phase would end after that?
Pretty sure Threatening Roar target your opponent and doesn't effect any monster. So if you use threatening roar and your opponent has something like EH Wildheart then he would be unable to attack since he cannot even declare an attack in the first place.
Ultimate Providence does activation. Since it doesn't say "or the effect of S/T" you won't be able to negate an already face up S/T or one that activates in the grave.
Man, you just can't escape players who think MST negates. I play Duel Links over regular Yu-Gi-Oh! for competition these days, and even people at Platinum in the PvP ladder still think that they can negate my Normal and Quick-Play Spell cards with a well-timed Twister or Wild Tornado ('cuz MST isn't actually in Duel Links... but Cosmic Cyclone is? WTF Konami?)
Right hand negates spell cards and spell card effects so the fourth counter is never placed on the field card. Furthermore right-hand also destroys the spell it's negating so it'll just destroy the field spell.
I actually have a real question here. It's about timelords, as a personal favorite type of monster, when i am on the lookout to keep a timelord on the field during their effect activations, what type of negation should i not have to worry about in regards to it having a 'can't be destoryed' clause. Because i understand that some negations wipe the effects of a monster away entirely, and some just stop the activated effects.
