Episode 317: Discussing Tua's Big Day with Perk 

Poup doesn't hate Tua, He just strongly dislikes Him. Lol.

The ability some of you have to misrepresent what I say is quite remarkable. For those who want to insist I hate Tua, the deal is it’s stuff like that I hate. Pay attention to what I’m saying instead of immediately recoiling and getting ready to strike back. This has been a public service announcement.

Perk is awesome. Appreciate you guys.

Props to Perk for not laughing at poups green screen alien mode😂😂😂❤

Wait! Poupart at 12:45 uses "the numbers" to support his opinion that Tua has not improved from year to year HOWEVER, at 24:10 he critical of ESPN for using "the numbers" to conclude why Tua should be among the highest paid QBs. So it's okay for Poup to use Tua's stats but not okay for anyone else to use Tua's stats if it goes against Poupart's narrative?!? 😂

Alain you're my guy, but it seems like you'd rather speculate about a 'staged play' in Tua's favor as opposed to giving him credit for making a play.....without any proof.... smells a tad bit hater-ish to me.... but you're not a hater and you're still my guy and imma give you a 'like' regardless.... FinsUp

Perk was completely on-point about the importance of having players with an "edge". Toughness transcends the box score.

Maybe 2-3 QBs in the league that have the accuracy, anticipation and quick release good enough to play behind that O-Line and be as successful as Tua who finished #1 in passing yards and top 5 in every other passing category last season even with all the injuries to the Line and Waddle and other weapons.

Perk's comparison between Tua and Russell was spot on.

poup doesn't try to hide his tua slander lol

Bout fricking time

Money money monayyyyy 🎉

Wow! Tua won, what a comment. Most are just happy they moved forward with their Qb. Too many sour grapes over a contract.

Love you Poup and Perk! Watch you all the time and makes me happy as fans we can all have this dialogue. I’m happy for Tua and his family. I know most of the fan base is as well. I’m gonna be honest, and I know Tua knows this to… No matter what, people are always gonna doubt. If Tua wins a Super Bowl for us(in my heart it’s WHEN he does. And actually it’s when THEY do, cause it’s a team thing from top to bottom) Still gonna say he’s not good enough. Still gonna question him. Let me just say this…I’ve been a dolphins fan almost the same amount of time Tua’s been on this earth. I’m over the moon ecstatic he’s our quarterback. Looking at the totality of years I’ve been a fan (since end of Marino era) this is the closest we’ve been to a superbowl. Since McDaniels came in, consistency is what I see. We’re winning games. We’re right there at the end. They’ve built a monster, and the world will see the Leviathan they have built! The chess game that is being played will be a masterpiece. I think the piece we put into play this offseason that is being overlooked is Calais. he will be clutch for us when it comes time to dig deep and go to the place that only champions go to. so team. Tua. McDaniel. All of them! New name this year,..Miami Leviathans! The creature that no one expects, and no one will be able to stop! (Unless you’re fortified in a very cold place in the middle of the continent…just kidding, we got them!) Tua…you will lead us there with the help of everyone! Including the fan base! Let’s fucken goooooooooo!! Phins all the way up!!!

We”ll all see if it was worth it…..in December/January in a meaningful game, on the road, if Tua will rise to the occasion. Revisit this question in January. The scoreboard never lies.

Lol, the mental and verbal gymnastics Alain was doing to the throw from Tua was impressive.

(think it's really clear that Tua improved a lot from 2 years ago to last year. They were winning games with him 2 years ago and the numbers were good when he was healthy, but the biggest knock on him was that he was underthrowing wide open WRs on deep throws. Last year he was hitting them in stride. His deep ball improved monumentally from year to year. I'm not sure if you can find this in the stats but just watching all the games from both seasons makes it obvious. Everything is not about stats. And if you want to look at stats and ignore anything else then I guess you have to admit that Tua was the best QB in the league last year (which I know is not true but it's what the stats say)

Thanks, Poupart for this video! Not to be "that guy", but this is what I really enjoy/makes for an enjoyable stream, for this viewer. Zero banter, back and forth, arguing, that just sounds like noise. Two professionals, giving us solid news, facts, digging deep and working together. Could not stand Omar Kelly constantly interrupting you, then going on this long-winded explanations when he could have made his point in 15 seconds or less. Then the constant, what I call "sitcom faces" that Omar makes when you make a point, as if what you are saying, is way out of left field. Let you explain your point, digest it, then respond. I know you think out of the box, Poupart, are objective and factual, and I wish, Omar would give you your space. Anyway, just wanted to say, appreciate that you had Perk on for this segment. Solid Work! Hitting the LIKE to show support.

Poup's & Perk's Tua analysis spot on again - as usual

Get ready to see Alabama Tua this year.

Sad day for these two fellas who wanted to make Tua play on his fifth year option.

The discussion about heart: when a team is up and coming, they still have to win enough times to internalize how that feels, to reference it confidently in big games.

Poup, I'm with you.

The dolphins just paid him because he's worth it. With tua we have a chance without him we have no chance.

“PAYDAY PAYDAY”

The big news today is no Expos hat.

Took longer than we all would’ve liked, but Grier did an amazing job signing the one of the best passers in the NFL to a team friendly deal below market value. Now time to get Holland done and maybe restructure Tyreek so he can stay with the team after this season. O-Line still a huge concern that will keep Miami from challenging in playoffs.

TUA TUA TUA!!!!!!!!!!!!

I might have brought up the week one bye week from 2017🧠 Keep up the great work guys When Perk talks about "The Buzz" or the "Energy out Their" is why i watch you guys. You are the ones on the ground in Miami, at camp. 🐬⬆

Tua could throw a 500 yard touchdown pass and Poup would find some thing wrong with it

Love this combination on the podcast but can you both grow a pair at Tua's next press conference and ask him straight if he can now win a playoff game 😁

Personally, I like the contract... it's shorter so that means a quicker out in case things really go sideways, and it's competitive to the top 10 QB which Tua can make an argument in belonging to without resetting the market. $53mil a year is a LOT better than $57mil a year. That's almost 2 minimum veteran contracts right there. Tua also wins because if he does ball out to the point where he silences even the goal post movers, he can get himself another really high extension since he'll still be in his prime when this one expires.

I think it's good all around, numbers, length of contract, and I thought it was timely. One reason I think it didn't get done earlier was Miami had to make important final roster moves and wanted to get that squared away so they could focus on this.

I'm disappointed in Dolphins management. Now that's is done, I hope Tua stays healthy and we see playoff wins.

We still here 🎉❤

Yep. Perk is spot on. No Super Bowl = too much money. BUUUuuut…we needed a QB and that is the price.

Perk- "Im usually for the player" 3 minutes later- "I wouldnt pay any of these guys what they're getting"

That sounds nice and cute but I hope that “energy” translates against Buffalo.

These guys are geniuses. The dolphins should’ve just got Mahomes. Duh. What a horrible argument, ‘He’s no Brady.’

I love Poup. But Poup’s position on Tua is, and always has been, crystal clear. 1. Poup: The pass today wasn’t Tua, it was Tyreek being so open. 2. Perk “What took Dolphins so long”, Poup: “Or, couldn’t it have been ‘what took Tua so long to agree?’ 3. Perk: “Tua won.” Poup: “Uh…No.” 4. Perk: “Tua never wanted to be top highest paid.” Poup: making all kinds of faces, ie, “Oh you know Tua’s greedy.” 5. Poup: Tua definitely did not improve as a player last year, let me share again the research that I spent HOURS accumulating solely to prove to people that he didn’t improve. And that’s just in the first 5 minutes or so. 😂 Every episode is the same. And I’m not sure Tua’s the answer either - I was kinda done with him with how he finished last season. So I don’t really care either way about the contract. I’m just bothered that Poup continually says he doesn’t dislike Tua, etc. when it is abundantly clear that he doesn’t like Tua (as a player, of course.). Poup can deny it all he wants, he can get into squabbles with fans in the comments and use the “don’t put words in my mouth, I never said (insert here)” and try to bully fans who call him out, but the body language, the tone of voice, the perpetual “now hold on” when Tua gets praise, and the list goes on. Just like you guys wanna say about QBs, “it’s the eye test, after 4 years, I know who that guy is,” I think us fans can say the same thing, “After 317 episodes, I know who that guy is, I can see how he feels about Tua (eye test).” I’d rather you just be honest (or stop being in denial?). It’d be a far better listen. If you’re just trying to appease TuAnon, it’s not working cause you still try to paint Tua in a negative light 90% of the time. Just be honest. But then, you’ve spent 4 years telling us that you don’t dislike Tua and you’re so dug in, I do suppose it’s nearly impossible to change now, just because a fan in the comments told you to. 😂 Still your biggest fan in Japan!❤

Perk of course it needs Tua. The Off was designed around his strengths

Ramsey bit on the fake handoff that tua is a master at he has lmproved every year he will be mvp

Yes Perk, expectations are higher for Tua now. Win in January, period and interesting comparisons to Russel Wilson and Bradshaw. I get that and agree. Tua could elevate beyond that, but only if he makes play scrambling, off script and w his legs

Tua makes more than Trevor. Trevor is around 41. Tua is around 47 Id agree with Poup im not a herbert fan but hes had 2 coaches 1 bad imo 1close to average. He still deserves a window. Same with Tua. But with Tua personally i think he is farther along in the evaluation. I say that because Tuas played in what 3-5 different schemes and he has a winning record in the different schemes when he played. So to me that should elevate the elvaution alot especially once you see what hes done with a OC who is clearly better than the previous options in most areas. Tuas case IMO is just sooo unique.

I am just glad that the deal was done. I do believe that His and the team will have a winning season. The fins will be in the playoffs. I expected them to win in the playoffs. I also believe that the division will not be a cake walk. They will be challenged by the Bills and the Jets. All of the AFC East has gotten better. I don't see New England improvement as enough of an upgrade yet. But they will next season.

Ai poupard😮❤

This contract is fair, without seeing all the numbers, the big question is what took Grier so long. This version should have been inked weeks ago.

Alaina having a melt down over this contract 😂😂😂😂😂

Poup looks like a Picasso character through much of this.

Is the question how much Tua has progressed or how much McDaniel has progressed? Tua is the right QB for this offense but McDaniel has to have a better game plan in big games. I believe McDaniel will be much better this year, he is a smart coach.

So is this the last piece of the puzzle to unlocking Tua's "greatness"?....

Of course you don't care, Poup. You aren't a Dolphins fan. I love listening to you, but if you were a skeptical fan of the team as opposed to a skeptical non fan, I would love you more ❤

Whatever criticisms can be made of Tua, when he's firing he's one of the most exciting quarterbacks I've ever seen and I'm rather old. I disagree that you know what Tua is yet.

I hope all those that love this deal are proven to be correct but I predict they'll be deafeningly silent when we fail to advance beyond the 1st round of playoffs again this year.

The hair comes out for the big news stories, huh? 🎉

Tickets sold out for Sunday.

Mahomes probably wouldn’t have won a superbowl without andy Reid.Burrow allen lamar haven’t won nothing

Great contract all things considered.

What's fully guaranteed!

$167.1M guarantees - 7th overall, just over Kyler Murray($160M) but under Jalen Hurts ($179.3M). Fair deal for both sides. Same agency has set-up their other client Green Bay Quarterback Jordan Love for a bigger deal using Tua. Realpolitik. Reason Lamar Jackson distrusts agents.

The problem is these reporters are talking out of their ass. They don’t see what the numbers are. It’s basically $34 million the first three years against the cap and they can renegotiate so right now this year I think his numbers are gonna be $9 million. He doesn’t have to get the 23 million from his fifth year option so they’re saving money , this is a flexible contract and it makes sense but yes, all they know how to do is hate!

Stop it Poupart ypu are not mad but you sir are disappointed. Because we all know you Don't believe in Tua!!!

I’m so afraid of where these quarterback contracts have gone and where they are going. There’s going to end up being teams burned by all of this guaranteed money and a qb not performing or getting injured. Watson in Cleveland is a pretty good example so far.

Hey now fellas from sunny Las Vegas!

If we stay healthy we will go undefeated again

Alain Poupart prides himself on trying to be right on everything he says and apparently has a very difficult time when he doesn’t get it right. He wants to be so RIGHT that the Dolphins made a bad choice of drafting Tua instead of Herbert that he tries to minimizes everything that Tua does well and is always looking for any faults or shortfalls of Tua to support his case. It’s been four years of you trying to prove your case. Let it go Alain, you’ll be a happier man.

Hayes and Paul will be starter caliber linemen by the end of the year

HOW ABOUT ALL THE OTHER POSITION GROUPS DO THEIR JOB. He’s not the only person on the team. What about the coach just getting the plays in on time? How many games did that really cost them???? Every other team in the league surrounds their QB with talent that is adequate. Do the same and things will be fine.!!!!!

Tua won a championship he won that for them in the second half of the national championship game that is bigger than the super bowl . He is coming back from a career ending injury and succeeding when we haven't had a QB in a long time .let him prove it he is close and this is it but we don't know in fact he is showing elite character so far so shut up and watch him ball

thank god you guys are not GMs 😂

Poupart has the same stance on Tua that I do. Yes he is better than the trash we have had in the past, but tua is not elite and tua has to win big games and win playoff games or this was a waste of money.

Haters like poop part will always find something to bitch about!!! 😎

I never understand, if anyone can do what Tua’s doing, couldnt the Dolphins just sign someone for the minimum if he regresses or gets hurt?

Looks like we got at least three more seasons of scapegoating the defense and offensive line for late season collapses. SWEET!....

4 years of mediocrity and fins decide to re-up on that? Sounds dolphin to me. I can’t wait for more 1st round exits, late season meltdowns, primetime bed pooping, 100% offensive shrinkage against good teams! Yay!

With the exception of Mahomes, I don't understand any of these contracts. Was there a bidding war for these players? Why 50 million? 30 million isn't enough? This is nothing to do with Tua, it seems like teams are negotiating against themselves.

Tua breaks the news looks a little staged

Poup sounds like your uncle at thanksgiving talking conspiracy theories 🤣. Other reporters talk about all these wow throws he makes and poup always hating.

Tua first year was a wash , had no business stepping on field after his college injury's , 2nd year concussions and Flores again another wash , in all actuality Tua has played 2 full for most part years and has improved and will only get better , Drew Brees peaked year 4 , Manning was horrible first year or so , every QB has their peak and Tua is coming this year

From what I understand, the whole defense bit on Tua’s ball fake on the 70 yd TD pass. Was the play design good? Sure. Would Mike White have made the same play? Doubtful. Does the defense bite if Tua’s not as good with his ball handling? Ahhh…there’s a relevant question.

Ramsey was probably too busy screaming PAY TUA

Listen...I like Tua and I'm glad he got his money. However Tua will only go as far as the talent around him, specifically his pro bowl wide receivers. If they don't resign Tyreek next season, you won't see him as effective IE leading the league in passing, QBR etc and all those other stats.

Wheres omar?

Bigger mistake than drafting the guy in the first place. This is the kill shot for Chris Grier and will look back on yesterday as the day that solidified losing his job.

LOL, unreal, how Poupart is downplaying Tua's performance again, Offense stinking up the joint b2b days and the minute Tua comes back, they look sharp....coincidence? Not for Poupart, the long pass is because of Tyreek, we have seen how your every QB besides Tua can perform in this scheme and then Teddy Bridgewater sucked....get a clue

Poup is the biggest tua hater in Miami

Love the no hat Alain

He only had 4 losing seasons with the eagles and made the playoffs with kc

Dolphins will be 13-4 east champs at least in the afc champions

When u move around you look like you’re melting…I think it’s because of background

Poop soory for your pain 😂😂😂😂😂

Brady didn’t throw for more than 220 yards in the playoffs or superbowl until number 4 there is no i in team

Poupart can’t even get credit to Tua making a good throw on the first play of 11 on 11 to Tyreek. SMH. Stop with the hating Alain, seriously. Zero objectivity when it comes to Tua. Miami fans deserve better.

Poupart doesn’t like Tua. Lmao. He can’t hide it.

Tua can't extend the play .if u pressure him the whole play gets blown up .

A lot of you will be disappointed, Tia with a monster receiving core could not beat a winning team last year, and some of you replied to me he beat two of them in 2022 lol

Poup your bias opinion against Tua is so obvious and blatant. You pick and choose stats that fit your agenda. It's funny how you guys already "know" what Tua is but we're still waiting to see what Herbert will become 😂😂😂 Tua got paid and rightfully so!

Elaine Poopee such hater man is F'n funny... he always gotta flip the narrative of a good day Tua did good in anything football

Poopoo goes on about Herbert had bad coaching as part of his evaluation yet forgets Tuas first 2 years Bad coaching and one of which he shouldn't have even seen the field. He came of a career ending injury, and a lot of the judgement of his play has come of the back of that.

Poupart does not provide the pertinent information. The Offensive Line is paramount to a QBs success. Brady QB rating plummeted under pressure.