Epix Pro Gen 2 vs. Approach S70: Which is the Best GOLF WATCH?

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The Garmin Approach S70 and the Epix Pro Gen 2 are two of the best GPS golf watches on the market. But which one is right for you?
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ABOUT THIS VIDEO
The Garmin Approach S70 is the very best dedicated golf watch in the world. But other watches, like the Garmin Epix Pro Gen 2 have more smart watch features, and still have MOST of the golf features as well. So which one should you buy?
In this comparison of the Approach S70 and Epix Pro 2, I'll show you the exact differences between the two watches when it comes to golf, and hopefully help you decide which watch is right for you.
TABLE OF CONTENTS
00:00. Garmin S70. The best dedicated golf watch on the market. But...
01:04. Golf features of the S70 vs the Epix Pro Gen 2.
02:01. Is the Epix Pro Gen 2 a good golf watch?
02:44. How do the graphics and user interface compare?
03:19. Looking for a fitness watch that can do golf?
04:07. What does the S70 have that the Epix Pro doesn't?
04:28. Difference #1.
05:32. Difference #2.
06:13. A caveat for both watches.
07:36. More the same than different?
08:37. What about price?
09:19. Want a dedicated golf watch? Get this one.
09:37. Want a day-to-day fitness watch you can use on the golf course? Get this one.
10:51. No bad choices here.
11:08. The on course experience.
12:18. Looking to buy? Consider shopping here.
12:45. Close.
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@MAVIE95 7 месяцев назад

This is exactly the breakdown i was looking for! Thank you

@jkbuckway 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for this! Been wondering about this very thing since the S70 came out.

@dank5495 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for your review! I was trying to decide among the Epix Gen 2, S70 and 965. The Gen 2 is on special and fits all my needs …Thanks!

@cdh79 6 месяцев назад

Great video, I just wanted to comment that you can actually enable wind-compensation in the “plays like” functionality via the settings. So it’ll be “wind” and “slope” that the Epix Pro can handle (at least on my watch, FW 15.77 in Dec. 2023 and I believe it’s been there since I bought it a few months ago)

@michaelhoak 9 месяцев назад

The latest beta software (14.36) ports all of the S70 features to the Epix 2 and Epix Pro except swing tempo. The beta software has the updated map graphics, more detailed plays like distances/factors, the s70’s virtual caddie interface, etc.

@Bigdog8337 9 месяцев назад

Interesting. I read your comment and I’m keen to have those new golf features on my Epix2 so I went and signed up for the beta software and downloaded it, started a game of golf but nothing had changed. Any ideas?

@MrRO56 7 месяцев назад

Hello, can you confirm that ? Because I want to buy a watch for the golf but also to in others sports. I don't know which one to choose

@_chjno 6 месяцев назад

@@Bigdog8337how’s the update?

@hassanszaidi9 5 дней назад

I wonder why swing tempo has been left out?

@dougdog360 10 месяцев назад

Hey Sean, love your videos. I just wanted to point out a couple of tips. If you don' t have the CT10 sensors you don't need to go back to your phone to add each club you used. If you enable Club Prompt setting (under activities and app settings) the watch is going to give you a subtle vibration every time is senses you hit the ball to ask you what club you used. You just need to add your clubs in your gear section so it can prompt you with them in the list. Also according to Garmin Virtual Caddy will provide recommendation based on the hole, wind data and past performance with each club, however you need to play at least 5 rounds with the watch and accurately select each club you used on every stroke.

@prototype43608 9 месяцев назад

Thx for that Info. I just want to ask for it. 'Cause I'm still an s60 User and would be suprised if the newer versions doesn't have this Feature anymore.

@nicolasbitcoin2549 10 месяцев назад

As a golfer/runner… love my epix

@GrumpyGolf4 9 месяцев назад

I have a question about these sensors. How useful is that data really considering it cannot give you carry distances? That seems like a limitation that could be a deal breaker...that goes for Garmin, Arccos, and Shot Scope. I'll be interested in hearing your take on that "weakness". You always give a reasonable, well thought out, point of view on such inquirie and we appreciate you buddy.

@prototype43608 9 месяцев назад

Love your Videos. Please Jeep going

@vincespeziale3956 2 месяца назад

what a fantastic review! though I still have no idea what to buy..I am past my workout days as a late 50's guy, but I want a stylish watch that gives me great features, primarily at golf... I just don't want to feel like I "settled" for the S70 when I will be wearing it daily... analysis paralysis for sure...argh! I love golf and I love fishing/boating....does that change things?

@lidzior 10 месяцев назад

Without sensors its works same, only you have to confirm club after shot.

@gabos7892 10 месяцев назад

Epix has a light! I use the light everyday!

@jeffmalosiecki8070 9 месяцев назад

My apple watch broke and now I am thinking Garmin will be my next smart watch. I use arccos but I am thinking about going to Garmin watch for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. I know you are a fan of arccos also. What are you plans? Move to the C10 sensors. Keep using arccos with your phone or belt link system. Just curious. I have not deceived on my solution yet but I am not sure I want to loss the arccos data I already have.

@Hillbillyspree 6 месяцев назад

Sam's ub has the regular epix Gen 2 for $450. The s70 is $700 everywhere. Should I pull the trigger on the epix? I will be using it for golf a lot.

@sirthomasjordan 10 месяцев назад

Thank you! Love my Fenix 6 for golf and everything else, Have you done a review on the CT10s? I've been very curious to how they compare to Arccos,, the subscription thing with arccos is not for me

@breakingeighty 10 месяцев назад

Yeah you can find it here: breakingeighty.com/garmin-ct10-sensors-review

@sirthomasjordan 10 месяцев назад

Has your opinion on the CT10 sensors changed at all now that you seem to be using Garmin watches more? Are you still using Arccos every round?

@paulsteeleiii5893 7 месяцев назад

Tried both - love that the epix buttons scroll the yardage - the s70 made it real tough to scroll layup yardages

@breakingeighty 7 месяцев назад

I haven't found it that difficult to scroll on the S70, but I agree, I definitely prefer having the physical buttons.

@user-zi3jo5rf9d 7 месяцев назад

According to the spec, the S70 has a wider screen, does it make a real difference?

@user-rv5sg2tm1c 10 месяцев назад

The major thing for me, having had the S70 and returning it, is that the distance to hazards and layup font on the S70 is so small that I can't see it on the course. I now have the Epix, it's great because i can scroll through hazards and layups with the buttons and see them.

@cosmicheretic8129 3 месяца назад

You have typo. What watch do you have now?

@aaronforrester3968 2 месяца назад

What size s70 do you recommend?

@ryanallen3941 10 месяцев назад

Hey Sean, thanks for the review. I’m in the market to buy something new 👏🏾👏🏾. Which would you choose the Garmin z82 or the Garmin S70? If you could only have one. Love to hear your thoughts.

@nicolasbitcoin2549 10 месяцев назад

I would buy a cheap range finder on market place + s70

@mkadamsti 10 месяцев назад

Sean, I bought a S70 a few weeks ago and you can change the watch bands. I actually ordered a new bracelet style watch band the same day I ordered the watch and received the band before the watch.

@breakingeighty 10 месяцев назад

Nice! How do you like the different band?

@mkadamsti 10 месяцев назад

Sean, I love the new band. It is a bracelet style where you can take out or add links to get to the correct size. I have a metal one now, but may try a resin band which would make the watch a little lighter. They are also quick change bands if you like to change styles. For me personally, I find the bracelet style to be more comfortable, easier to put on or take off, and just look a little classier. Google or Amazon search will get you lots of options. And finally, Thanks for the site and videos.@@breakingeighty

@mpoppins880 10 месяцев назад

Une fonction presente que sur la s70, c est la detection du coup qui permet "automatiquement" de mesurer la distance du coup. 😎

@nicolasbitcoin2549 10 месяцев назад

Non.. détection auto sur epix aussi.

@gary24-7 10 месяцев назад

Hi, how do you add the direction of your drive (left, center, right) after you hit your driver on your S70? Just got my S70 and I'm still learning how to use it.

@breakingeighty 10 месяцев назад

You might need to turn on the extra statistics in your settings, can’t remember exactly what that setting is called off hand.

@Garysalunatic 10 месяцев назад

That will enter itself when you take the next shot. The gps records each shot and pins each one where you were at. You don’t have to enter it yourself. You have to tell the watch which club you hit if you don’t have the ct10 sensors

@247geoffers 10 месяцев назад

Can you get green contour maps on both? I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Ive seen it on the s70

@andrewferguson1013 10 месяцев назад

Yes, it's definitely on S70, BUT you do need to pay an annual subscription fee for this I'm afraid! Note also that not every course green contours will be available I believe, so be weary about paying extra IF your course greens don't show it!?

@airspeedaudio 10 месяцев назад

great review, thanks for getting through all the differences. HOWEVER, I'd love to hear your opinion on the so called "wind" feature on the S70 or even Garmin's rangefinder. IMO, it's a crock of Sh*t. If the device is getting wind info from the internet, there's no way it's measured exactly where you happen to be standing. It's probably measure at an airport miles away. So it's useless in my mind. Now, if they put a wind sensor on a rangefinder or on the watch (not sure where or how), then that might be useful. Thoughts?

@breakingeighty 10 месяцев назад

It’s similar to how your phone can tell you “it should start raining at your location in 7 minutes…”. It’s not measuring it directly from your device, so yes, it’s not going to be quite as accurate as if it were. But in my experience and testing, it general gets pretty close. May be a few mph off but in most cases have found the direction to be pretty spot on.

@airspeedaudio 10 месяцев назад

@@breakingeighty hmmmm. Well admittedly, I'm sure that getting better at predicting the weather exactly where I am....so ok, it's evolving. Your reviews are really interesting because you don't sugar coat things. I actually went with a rangefinder vs. a golf watch based on YOUR overall reviews (and I watched a bunch). It's easy to use a range finder, doesn't hold me captive to swiping screens and looking at a watch (and i do have an old Garmin vivoactive 4 that has rudimentary hole distances), and....wait for it - it's EXACT. Based on your unbiased reviews of those I purchased the Blue Tees Series 3 Max which for me, is perfect. I don't need to be a better tech user, I need to be a better golfer. Thanks!!

@Garysalunatic 10 месяцев назад

Obviously it can’t tell you the wind where you are on the ground or with the effect the trees will have on the wind you feel. If you hit the ball anywhere above the trees of even close to that hight the wind will be more like the nearest weather sensor is indicating. Never exact but better than tossing grass clippings into the air. I notice that the wind my Epix tells me will make a difference as expected for “plays like” changes

@shawnsponds Месяц назад

Grest job

@PJo336 10 месяцев назад

What version software does the epix pro have? it looks like an oncoming version will update the golf app so I think epix/epix pro will get the same interface in the near future, but i am not 100% on that Also, I will note, it doesnt show you the distances based on wind on the older epix, but it does show you where to aim and that is using wind to calculate. There's a little red aim indicator the virtual caddy shows

@PJo336 10 месяцев назад

The epix software currently in beta lists: Added Golf “Plays Like” improvements. Added Golf Biomes support for OLED products. Added new Golf Virtual Caddie interface.

@breakingeighty 10 месяцев назад

Yeah I noticed the beta release notes after I shot this. Will update when they roll out the new software and see how much it’s improved.

@ryanofthevalley 3 месяца назад

Did the Epix 2 (non-pro) update all these features?

@PJo336 3 месяца назад

@@ryanofthevalley yup it’s on both pro and non pro alike. Personally though, my gps distances (particularly with slope) have been off since this update though

@tubeyouman1009 10 месяцев назад

How does the watch get wind data?

@shawnsponds Месяц назад

There's no way wind data can be calculated ...

@PJB920 10 месяцев назад

Difference #1 and #2 are fixed when you sign up for beta firmware on your epix 2, works perfect so far, and yes green contours works with Garmin subscription. What actually is missing is the Garmin Swing Tempo app.

@user-rv5sg2tm1c 10 месяцев назад

There's a Tempo Training app but not the tempo of your shots when playing as far as I can see.

@thomashughes1518 9 месяцев назад

I bought the S70 and sent it back within 2 days… Clearly it has more features than the Apple Watch, however the overall clunkiness was frustrating. It also feels much cheaper than an Apple Watch. I wanted something more than the Apple Watch, so far the S70 isn’t there, and the Tag Connected E4 has a rubbish battery.

@MichaelJones-ff9gb 9 месяцев назад

CT10 Sensors are costly and poorly designed, they will fall off on mid to long irons. I've mentioned this before, this is widely known among CT10 users - you have been warned. The ShotScope system is both cheaper and far superior for golfing. The virtual caddie is a gimmick that does not work as intended. What if you use a 9 iron to chip on the green? Well, it will factor that into it's yardage and VC recommendations. In addition, most amateurs do not hit their irons consistently, which will skew the VC recommendations. Those who hit consistently know the gap and distances of their irons. IMO, the VC is a useless gimmick. Full disclosure, I currently use the Epix Pro Gen 2 with a full CT10 set. I've already had one courtesy replacement of a lost CT10 sensor that flew off my 7 iron during a round of golf . If I have to buy a single sensor, it will be approximately $75 a sensor. The Garmin system replaced a ShotScope H4 and full sensor package. I used the ShotScope last year and the sensors never require any mucking about once setup. They never needed tightening, and I never thought of them again. If Garmin could fix the sensors, then I would wholeheartedly recommend the Garmin. The Epix watch is very attractive and excellent for those who plan on tracking additional activity metrics in addition to their Golf. Soley for golf, look elsewhere.