Eps 361: 30-06 Going Obsolete

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Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! Despite a widespread, deep, and fierce fan base, the 30-06 cartridge will go obsolete. And we're going to explain how, on this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast.
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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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@kweeks10045 20 дней назад

It will never be obsolete as long as long guns exist. The oxford dictionary defines obsolete as no longer being produced or used. In 2023 it ranked #9 among the most sold caliber rifles in the US. It was ahead of the 300 Win Mag, 7-08, 243, and several other well known cartridges. It's not going anywhere for a long, long time.

@DiabloOutdoors 20 дней назад

I agree. This guy is a clown and not the first time he speaks fallacies and obviously doesn't know much about hunting and the outdoors. He's a clownesque RU-vidr

@TheCodyO 20 дней назад

@@DiabloOutdoorspretty rude talking about a guys has had as many experience’s as Ron. Hunting and outdoor writing has been his life for around 50 years or so.. he had hunted more game then most of us ever will. I like the 30-06 and he is talking it up here.. it is a great cartridge. And if you watched the video you would realize that in the end he says he was teasing and that every cartridge eventually becomes extinct. It got people click on the video.

@WanderingBobAK 20 дней назад

@@DiabloOutdoors I hope you to as good as you one day, but I will never be as rude. Jerk.

@MrCobb-rq8iv 19 дней назад

@@DiabloOutdoors beginning to agree; A$$clown to the third degree.

@loquat44-40 19 дней назад

There was absolutely no point to a 30 minute video on such a topic and I quit watching once I saw the length of the video.

@lugerstonecock 20 дней назад

Oh Please Ron STOP with the click bait title! The 30-06 will easily make it another century. There are just too many out there being used.

@tripplebeards3427 20 дней назад

Yep. More 30-06 rifles in my state than mosquitoes. Massive Clickbait Ron got me…again

@jamesclark4 20 дней назад

First rifle is a 30-06 ill never sell it

@nailbenderMatt 20 дней назад

Hahaha. Ron, Lugerstonecock took the words out of my mouth. Silly boy, Ron Long live the King - Long live the 30-06.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 20 дней назад

Aww, come on guys. Have I ever put up a video with no or weak information? Fluff and stuff? I might tease you with titles, but I do work to provide useful information. Am I failing you that badly? Besides, if the anti-gunners win the day, the 30-06 will be obsolete -- along with every other cartridge. Let's stick together and fight for out rights.

@jamesclark4 20 дней назад

@RonSpomerOutdoors i know you do your best but to say the most popular freedom seed will be obsolete is click bait

@tripplebeards3427 20 дней назад

There are more 30-06/chambered rifles and owners in my state than mosquitoes. It’ll still be here long after you and I are both long gone.

@gunman-6646 20 дней назад

I'm with you on that.

@rocksandoil2241 16 дней назад

Ditto the .303 in Canada. Too many old military rifles were made, and people liked it...and should.

@bubbajones5905 10 дней назад

this video was just click bait.

@lewjones7272 День назад

The 30-06 will probably go out like the 45-70

@tripplebeards3427 День назад

@@lewjones7272 😂 😆 😆

@a1aprospects470 20 дней назад

Whenever a guy starts telling me about how I should switch from 30-06, it's usually the kind of guy who puts an orange slice in his beer and insists I should try it too.

@DiabloOutdoors 20 дней назад

LOL This Ron is a clown. This is not the first time he's misleading people and speaking fallacies. Like his video about bears "I think", "Maybe", etc... *He PRETENDS to know, but the truth is that he does NOT.* Thumbs down for this guy for as long as he'll post on RU-vid.

@jaydunbar7538 20 дней назад

@@DiabloOutdoors engagement is always good for the channel so if your trying to hurt him in some way your failing hard.

@a1aprospects470 19 дней назад

@@DiabloOutdoors Yes, I've found that successful youtube/tiktok channels depend more on the person's voice, looks, or controversy rather than the quality of content. There's a very popular history channel where most of their videos are factually wrong.

@rydersmith2067 19 дней назад

Hey 30/06 is great and so is a orange slice beer every now and then lol

@a1aprospects470 19 дней назад

@@rydersmith2067 My wife and her girlfriends love beer with fruit.

@georgemcarthur488 16 дней назад

I was upset for a minute. Old Ron was looking to spark a fire and he did. 30-06 seems to bring us all together 🤘

@johnwallace7694 13 дней назад

#30-06brotherhood

@8MM.PRC.HUNTER 20 дней назад

To say the 30-06 has a fierce fan base is putting it mildly. I don't think I'll ever see the 30-06 go obsolete in my lifetime, but even if it does I can handload for it until my days on this earth are over.

@leifnilsen6107 5 дней назад

Exactly

@user-rn6hr1qw3l 20 дней назад

30.06 best round ever made

@kamata93 12 дней назад

7mm Mauser and 6.5 Grendel entered the chat

@Colt-tf6xf 3 дня назад

But who won ww2?@@kamata93

@Steve-vx2xp 20 дней назад

To be honest is it gunsmith an avid hunter I live in Alaska if I would push to have one cartridge it would be a 30-06

@michaelcervantez3570 18 дней назад

Well you're obviously not an English teacher 😂

@Steve-vx2xp 18 дней назад

@@michaelcervantez3570 voice text Douche bag

@georgemcarthur488 16 дней назад

@@michaelcervantez3570 That was a garbage reply to a mans comment. Tells me enough about you.

@markwalker4485 15 дней назад

I would pick a .416 Rigby but I do not make videos

@lugerstonecock 20 дней назад

The 3006 will go obsolete when we start using lazers or when projectile weapons are relplaced with whatever technology is going to replace them.

@sinisterthoughts2896 20 дней назад

That's what Ron said.

@Oneofthetwelve 20 дней назад

Hahah yeah but I’ll keep mine 🤣

@ricktaylor3748 19 дней назад

We're already using lasers, and ultrasound weapons.

@Hutzjohn 19 дней назад

MAYBE ----- remember WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones

@curly__3 20 дней назад

I could write a book on why the 30-06 is superior to all these new gimmick cartridges. I probably should. It is still superior for most big game save the largest african game, and won't be seriously challenged anytime soon. It has the perfect recipe of caliber, bullet weight and momentum, good bc's, easy to shoot moderate recoil, reasonably flat trajectory out to 500 yards, and can be loaded well with tons of different powders as well as being a great host for bp and cast lead because of the larger case capacity and ability shoot 220 grain lead RN bullets well. The case life for reloading is 2-3x as good as any of the newer cartridges out there, i'm on 27 reloads (yes.. 27) for some nosler brass, finger annealing every 4th round or so and expect ≈15 more loads from that batch of brass. The barrel life is extremely high because it is generally loaded to reletively lower pressures. The moderate velocities match up to perfect on-game bullet performance for most types and brands of bullets. The noise level from a 22'' barrel is moderate compared to magnums. It is still the number one recommended cartridge by the Alaskan dept of fish and game for hunting everything in alsaka... And is generally the number one recomended cartridge by outfitters for everything from mule deer to moose across the west, new england and Alaska... Yada, yada... 30-06 is going no where... The gun and ammo companies want it to go away, they would love to force you into some new rifles, new ammo and new reloading equipment by making the ammo expensive or scarce etc... but it will just make the ammo and gun companies obsolete. Even Bear Creek Arsenal just came out with a new AR platform rifle in 30-06 and 270 win. They can see the writing on the wall... Remington, winchester, vista outdoors, etc better think twice about trying to pressure hunters away from the 308, 270, and 30-06... They are not even close to the only game in town anymore...

@gusloader123 20 дней назад

@curly_3 ---> Bingo! Excellent points. The book titled: "One Man, One Rifle, One Land" by J.Y. Jones is about him taking every game animal from Mexico to Canada with a .30-06 Springfield cartridge / rifle.

@roddecker1900 19 дней назад

Your voice of xperience_ / loaded with political wizdom ❤

@steveelder5306 18 дней назад

Ron needed to get some views. holy hell the Aught six is immortal.

@georgemcarthur488 16 дней назад

I'll help you write the book.

@jakewayrewa5201 4 дня назад

Write the book; I won’t read it. 30-06 can be used for a lot of purposes, but other cartridges can do a better job in individual cases.

@johnnyv.223 19 дней назад

The truly good, multi-use calibers(like the.30-'06), endure because they are so versatile and effective.

@derekmcmurry 20 дней назад

Ha ha, love the title. Just bought my 5th Tikka T3x 30-06 3 hours ago. Shipping tomorrow. They have joined my recently built Rem700 with a Brux barrel in 30-06. But honestly, the plan is to take every Tikka to the range with a plethora of factory ammo and a few of my handloads. I'll keep 2-3 in factory configuration depending on how they shoot and compare to each other. The rest will all be rebarreled to 280AI

@ronlowney4700 20 дней назад

Derek *Typo! 😳

@derekmcmurry 20 дней назад

@@ronlowney4700 uh oh. What did I do?

@ronlowney4700 20 дней назад

🤷‍♂️ My First Post Was Mysteriously Deleted! But, What You Didn't Do is Buy a 270 Winchester! 😂

@derekmcmurry 20 дней назад

@@ronlowney4700 Oh man, you don't know me. I just picked up my THIRD left hand Stainless Tikka T3x Lite 270 last Friday. It now sits beside the other 2 AND my left hand Tikka 270 Hunter T3x AND 2 right handed ones black and blued AND 1 right hand Hunter and my one custom I have left - all in 270 Win. I have another LH stainless T3x 270 on my watch list on an auction site and plan to buy it Thursday.

@ronlowney4700 20 дней назад

🤯 WOW! 👍

@joncooke9515 20 дней назад

Click bait. My favorite cartridge ever.

@jamesclark4 20 дней назад

@williamgaines9784 20 дней назад

I think I will open a "retirement home" for all the old 30-06 rifles and ammo. They will all be kept clean and get "exercised" enough to keep them limber.They will also get taken on frequent nature walks. 😉

@TrapperScottyAlaskan 20 дней назад

The weapon of the modern Amercan Patriot

@georgesakellaropoulos8162 20 дней назад

I like your style.

@jgrenwod 17 дней назад

I already have.

@williamgaines9784 17 дней назад

@@jgrenwod Can I come by and take a few out for a nature walk? I am sure there are some old 742s and 760s that need to stretch their legs and work a few kinks out.😖

@jgrenwod 17 дней назад

@@williamgaines9784 Our rest home caters to the elderly. Early 20th century 03s and a couple of mid century garlands. Although in excellent health they are more comfortable at the range these days. Their diets (and my pocket book) require they be fed with home made recipes.

@birddog7492 19 дней назад

Like so many others I do love the 30-06 the 270 and the 308. The competition between them has been on the same footing as the Ford and the Chevy. Enjoy which ever one you have. They are all great.

@mikederiggi2523 20 дней назад

The 06 will be a viable and extremely useful and effective cartridge until we stop shooting projectile type ammunition. My opinion and I’m sticking to it

@sinisterthoughts2896 20 дней назад

That's basically what he said.

@carycary5824 19 дней назад

Ron has forgot more about ammo and rifles than most of the people on this video. As far as the title goes, it’s called sarcasm. Younger folks don’t understand this. I will continue to watch and appreciate every video Ron puts up!! Cheers Ron!!! Thanks brother!!!!!

@georgemcarthur488 16 дней назад

Right! He almost had me disturbed for a second 😆

@thomasdecember3910 20 дней назад

The 3006 is here for ever all those prc's there not staying .

@gunman-6646 20 дней назад

I'm with you on that.

@ricktaylor3748 20 дней назад

Absolutely.

@jaydunbar7538 20 дней назад

Same was said about the 30-06 by people like you, nothing changed there’s always someone saying it. It’s mostly correct as most cartridges introduced do fall to the wayside, but your not omnipotent your just a clown.

@ASimao71 19 дней назад

So true! 👍👍

@sinistersilverado965 19 дней назад

LOL, copium

@davidward6366 19 дней назад

I think you said a mouth full when you said NOT IN OUR LIFETIME, Great show 😊

@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek 20 дней назад

Well Done!!! Ought Six Forever!!!

@jfess1911 20 дней назад

The 30-06 was originally a US Military cartridge, so its max pressure was set to be conservative, even in 1906. It was expected to be used in harsh conditions and well-used weapons with somewhat inconsistent ammo. They built in a significant safety margin. Even almost half a century later, the military-based 308 set only a couple thousand psi higher for the same reasons. The 270 was designed well after the 30-06 and was a hunting cartridge, so pressures were pushed a bit. It tuned out the 270's chamber pressure was pushed up more than realized. There is also a strange artifact of the "copper crusher" pressure testing method used at the time that under-reports pressures in some instances. When it was developed, the 270 registered only 4% higher pressure than the 30-06 using the old method (52,000 cup vs 50,000 cup). When the more accurate piezoelectric pressure transducers were used, the actual increase turned out to be over 8% (65,000 psi vs 60,000 psi).

@jerrykemphfer9436 20 дней назад

What

@jfess1911 20 дней назад

@@jerrykemphfer9436 The 270 has more pressure. It turns out that the increase over the 30-06 is more than its creators realized. This is because of a glitch in the old test method.

@tman8939 20 дней назад

I guess I need to go buy an -06 to help keep it a good selling caliber. Thanks Ron for the encouragement...

@BCvictoria 20 дней назад

My buddy is just getting into hunting. He wanted to buy his first rifle that could take anything from coyote to Moose, pretty much the spread of any big game in our area (Southern BC). I told him 30-06, and that's what he got! 😁

@GeorgeSemel 16 дней назад

Back in the 1990's, I had a Winchester M-70 30-06. I zeroed it in with 165 gr Trophy Bonded Bullets that Federal loaded then. I then went out to 200 yards and shot a group. I hit all my bullets about 1.5 inches above the point of aim, and the group size for all five shots came out to 1.35 inches. Not bad at all. Since I was moving to Alaska for work, I wanted a 06. I shot several caribou Black Tail Deer and a couple of moose with it, but I also had other rifles. No matter where in the state I went, every store I went to would have some ammo, and 30-06 was always on the shelf in some form. Usually 165 or 180 loads. These days, I shoot a 7mm RM, which is nothing more than a flatter shooting 30-06. My only regret was not having Mel Forbes make a Model 24 in 30-06 for me. He passed on a few days ago. Wilson Combat bought NULA, and well, let's just say I am not a fan of the "improvements". As for guns and shooting in general on the political front we are doing pretty good with the beat back. I am betting that GCA-68 is going to get overturned and the NFA is going to get scaled back. Time will tell.

@rwLincoln 18 дней назад

.30-06 proved itself by me in Africa ---buffalo, hippo, waterbuck, cob, and warthog ---we loved that 220 grain Silver Tip bullet for the bigger game

@grantnunmaker9341 13 дней назад

I concur absolutely

@dnt1760 18 дней назад

I am 60. Have been a user in fan of the 36 for 30 years. The advances in bullet design and technology have greatly benefited this old cartridge. Other cartridges may be better at individual tasks, but nothing can match the old war-horse’s versatility.

@duck-n-cover477 19 дней назад

Singing a little Toby Keith, "I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm good once as I ever was."

@qwman68 20 дней назад

The 30-06 is a badass cartridge. Especially if you reload. Ackley Improved puts in almost in 300 wi mag territory

@davemurphy3813 19 дней назад

Hey Ron, I’ll help you with some ideas for getting out of the old rut of gunwriters: comparing calibers. It has to be the most mundane and irrelevant topic to obsess over, with people agonizing about minute details that don’t end up mattering in the real world. So instead, how about taking a hint from the shotgun and archery worlds and talk about technique? About gun fit? About things like eye dominance? About gun care and repair? Teach people to be able to do more with what they already have. That doesn’t sell new stuff and unnecessary gear, but it is what people want. I’ll send you the bill for these ideas later.

@jaredmartin3945 6 дней назад

Thank you Ron, for all of your efforts with all of these caliber reviews.

@geoffkeahey2651 20 дней назад

Got an 06 for my fifteenth Christmas. Still have it. And two more. Fifty years later, it is the caliber I grab for big game. Obsolete? Not as long as I have dies.

@bJH3105 20 дней назад

I'm 38 30-06 been my hunting rifle for 10 plus years.

@smokin70chevelle 19 дней назад

33 year old here, my x-bolt in 30-06 with sig elite hunter factory ammo uses a 165gr. Sierra TGK bullet, with a claimed B.C. of .531 and a chronographed velocity of 2975 out of my rifle, I can repeatedly smack the 10" plate at a true 1000 yards at my local range. I was never a 30-06 fan until I owned one.

@johnwallace7694 13 дней назад

Tikka ,Sako Are Fantastic .

@gregjones2217 20 дней назад

Oh, I doubt it

@sinisterthoughts2896 20 дней назад

How about when we use phasers like star trek?

@WanderingBobAK 20 дней назад

@@sinisterthoughts2896 Haha! That's what popped into my head. Tell me you're not a Boomer. Haha.

@sinisterthoughts2896 20 дней назад

Man, these comments show just how many people want squeek and squawk without ever watching a video. Dunning-kruger effect in action.

@ridgerunner3364 17 дней назад

I love your podcast, but I believe it will be at least another generation before the 30-06 fades away. The 06 will do anything you need it to do. There are millions of 06's in service. Love you show, and your wisdom!!

@cornwasher 20 дней назад

Wrorng, it will never go out of fashion based upon knock down power, shootability, recoil, availability, price, credible history and bullet weight choice.

@sinisterthoughts2896 20 дней назад

Did you actually watch the video?

@HDSME 17 дней назад

Anddddddddd!!! 200 million guns chambered fir it don't forget we live in the sabo erra you can't still shoot .22s even out of it

@LuminaryCursorem 7 дней назад

I absolutely love my '03 Springfield. Always wanted one since I was a kid be cause my uncle would take one hunting with us ever time we went. His was sporterized, but it is every bit as accurate as people say they are. Truly a riflemans rifle.

@nathanlambshead4778 8 дней назад

You didn't fool me. I KNEW you would not be poo pooing the 30-06. (I was only worried a little lol) My favorite and most accurate rifle I ever owned was a 30-06 in a Browning 1885. I don't hunt open areas much (New Hampshire woods mostly) but I wanted a field/power line rifle for those few times I found myself there in deer season. My Falling block Browning would consistently clover leaf 3 shots at 100 yds off the bench, using Factory loads. (Fed Premium 180 grain) which was good enough for this old timer. Of course the 26 inch (or was it 28? Can't remember now) barrel was a plus, along with shorter overall length than bolt action rifles. Thanks again for the video. Keep up the great work.

@jamescook7051 14 дней назад

I’m 36 and have a 1903 Mark 1 and a Winchester Model 70 both 30-06. I love the cartridge and these older rifles vs the new stuff.

@nickl6929 20 дней назад

The 35-45 years of age is also when most of us are handed down dads old rifle these days. Which more often than not is in 30-06...

@robertvasquez240 18 дней назад

Ron, You give some good numbers that actually make a case for the 30-06 Springfield lasting for a long time!

@warrenpolidori5541 19 дней назад

Was about to knee jerk and call you out on this topic Ron, but hung in there for the punch line at the end. As always, very well done!

@RonSpomerOutdoors 19 дней назад

Thanks for hanging in there, Warren.

@texashunter664 19 дней назад

I re fell in love with my 30-06 last summer in South Africa, where it harvested Zebra, Nyala, Kudu, Gemsbuck, Sable, Wildebeest with 180gn Nozler Partitions. Man what a killing machine it was.

@georgesakellaropoulos8162 20 дней назад

As far as the 6.5 Creedmoor is concerned,except for wind drift, which you can compensate for, and drop, which is easier to compensate for, the .30-'06 with heavier bullets can be driven to retain energies of 1500 foot pounds out past 800 yards. The Creedmoor can't touch it.

@sinisterthoughts2896 20 дней назад

More is more, after all.

@ronaldjohnson1474 19 дней назад

Also, the Creedmore can't do anything the 1894 6.5 Swede isn't capable of doing.

@evanwindom 20 дней назад

"So why did I start this by saying it was going obsolete?" I think the term for that is "clickbait".

@sinisterthoughts2896 20 дней назад

The tactic has existed long before the internet. It's called a headline.

@joelpeterson8424 16 дней назад

The title prompted me to watch a very informative program that proved the title wrong...uh.

@evanwindom 16 дней назад

@@joelpeterson8424 How nice for you.

@timothystallings7191 18 дней назад

Always have and will always love my 30-06 !!! It has always done the job I needed it to do.

@jwdundon 20 дней назад

The 30-06 is the one gun. It's an antique. It's a relic drop a 190 Grand accubond on top of it. Comparing it to any wonder bullet of today and see what happens.

@georgesakellaropoulos8162 20 дней назад

I get 2750 fps out of it with no signs of exeess pressure. This translates to 1490 foot pounds of energy at 900 yards. Wind drift is not ideal, and the trajectory is beginning to look like a rainbow. If you learn to shoot it, it delivers more than one would expect.

@jwdundon 19 дней назад

@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 I live in the real world out in Oregon. The part of the state I live In, a 200 yard shock is a pretty long shot. I go to Eastern Oregon. It's like the Midwest. You can shoot four or five 600 yd. I've lost track of how many four point bucks. I've killed both blacktail and muley and I've killed several elk. The longest shot I've ever shot a buck with was 440 yd. Ironically, I used a 270 WSM. I held 16" over his back, and dropped it into his heart. That's about 30 BIG BUCKS, many Record book bucks. -- I don't see the hype to LONG RANGE SHOOTING. Most bucks I take are under 100 yards. They can't tell the difference in the exit hole. To me a GOOD BONDED BULLET is more important than a long sleek sexy bullet. I don't see the difference in holding 5' over a bucks back or holding 20'. (LONGER MAXIMUM POINT BLANK RANGE). that is real, the rest, not so much.

@georgesakellaropoulos8162 19 дней назад

@jwdundon I've only done this from a bench. I'm not good enough to shoot game at distances much over 300 yards, maybe under ideal conditions 400, but this bullet expands and holds together in wet paper at 900.

@dada_man 19 дней назад

The idea that "every cartridge goes obsolete eventually" flies in the face of the 45-70 he mentioned at the beginning. We still have plenty of cartridges with us that began with the inception of the metal cartridge. I tend to agree with Mr Spomer in theory, but we haven't seen that play out yet in reality.

@jerryshowens3049 11 дней назад

I'm 63 and I love the old 30-06. I remember when I was very young my Dad got his Remington Pump Action in the late 60's or early 70's. I got it after he passed. I remember him using the old Remington 55 gr Accelerator round on Coyotes. I wish they still made that round.

@archangel20031 День назад

30-06 will never go away, it's just to versatile! A bunch of cartridges can be made from the 30-06 including 45 Raptor.. It can do 95% of what the 300 Win-mag can do, the recoil is on the verge of being too much in a heavy loading and can be downloaded easily!

@jayzuroff8146 2 дня назад

It really is simple. The combination of lethality with manageable recoil makes it one of the best choices you can make for deer, elk, bear, cougar, you name it.

@robjohns5569 18 дней назад

Because it works ! It has worked on every thing I have aimed it at!

@1968alaskan 5 дней назад

I'm a firm believer in the .270 win and the 30-06 Springfield for Alaska game. The brown bear (or Griz) still has me guessing if it is enough, only from lack of experience. My dad shot the 30-06 while I used a .270 I have taken many moose, black bear, deer and elk with my .270 and well the 30-06 with my dad has done that and more. What I have found to be the most important aspect, when it comes to hunting, is know your gun. i.e. know what 200 yards looks like in your scope, know what 400 yards looks like, know the hold over....The spec's are what they are, i get it. Put a man behind a rifle that knows how to use it. Priceless. I've seen bear drop on a dead run at 300 yards, yes it was the 30-06 and a man that used it is whole life. He knew that gun!

@BBQDad463 7 дней назад

Thank you for this video. You offer a great exposition of the whys and wherefores of the .30-'06 cartridge. Like many others, I believe the .30-'06 cartridge will not go obsolete for many, many years, and for (in no particular order) good reasons: 1) Availability. The ammo is everywhere. 2) Reliability. It gets the job done on virtually everything on the North American continent, with the possible exception of the Polar Bear. 3) Versatility. You can handload for everything from Groundhog to Grizzly. 4) Shootability. Its recoil can be handled by all but the most recoil-sensitive shooters. 5) Historic Ubiquity. There are far too many .30-'06 rifles in the hands of far too many shooters. No one is suddenly going to decide to throw away the Model 70 that has been putting Whitetails in the freezer for three generations.

@dustinpalmer3386 20 дней назад

Ron I'm 44 years old I hunt here in louisiana with a remington 760 game master 30-06 it's my favorite rifle I won't change the 06 ain't going nowhere lots of guys agree with me

@geraldbrunckhorst8291 2 дня назад

I’m currently experimenting with 190gr LR (long range) bullets and a few of the hotter powders to take advantage of the low pressures. The rifle can handle a lot more so I’m seeing what real performance can be achieved. Why? One, I already own several good rifles. Two, I have all the hand loading equipment and Three, I have some time to dedicate to this project. I’ve had great results with 180gr core locked bullets on elk, bear and moose. The heavier 220gr bullets are great short range bullets in the brush and timber to avoid small stick deflection. I also want to repeat small primer experimentation which the Vortex podcast team debated. This would aid many of us reloader s in obtaining primers when the supply chain runs low on large primers. Keep up the great videos!!

@johnmccarthy6999 20 дней назад

Set the Hook! I've heard that if you scratch at it long enough, you can make it bleed. A+ for Analytics. Keep your 06 ammo on high ground, the oceans are rising too. 2" high at 5000 miles/50 years.

@JonIronhorse 12 дней назад

Having a custom built as we speak. I'll do my part to keep this cartridge alive. Effective on all NA game.

@leifnilsen6107 5 дней назад

Thank you for the history and information. Absolutely well put together.

@ronlowney4700 20 дней назад

🤭 Long Live The 270 Winchester! 😜

@fdp9521 20 дней назад

The 270 is a great cal. It is almost as good as the 30-06. If that makes you angry so be it. Jack O'Connor said so.

@ronlowney4700 20 дней назад

😂 I Have Both!

@ronlowney4700 20 дней назад

😂 I Wanted To See How Long It Would Take to "Trigger" 30-06 Fans! 😜

@MichaelLakota-vc4tk 6 дней назад

30’06 was my first rifle cartridge, 308 is now my favorite. Been my favorite for 40+years. But the’06 is not going anywhere anytime soon. Every new hunter knows that the 30’06 is an all around North American cartridge for hunting

@hs459 20 дней назад

LOVE THE 30-06/END OF STORY

@MehulKamdar 20 дней назад

I have a custom Mauser on a Spandau Mauser 1908 action built as a lightweight rifle with a full 24" barrel and a beautiful wood stock but weighing just 6 3/4 lbs empty and without a scope. Kicks a bit but I love it. Am getting a Kaps 4x scope for it from Germany. My old eyes prefer fixed magnification low power scopes and I enjoy stalking closer and not playing Simo Hayha on deer. Hopefully, the '06 will never go obsolete. We still hunt with muzzleloaders and a friend even had a gunsmith in Sweden build him a matchlock that he's taken deer with. If it does become obsolete, I will be long gone by then. And that will be a good thing at least as far as I am concerned.

@308blr2 20 дней назад

Mr. Spomer, With a good chamber and micrometer one should be able to hand-load a .30-06 to some pretty high velocities while checking for case head expansion as an indication of pressure limits. Barnes published data for the 130 grain TTX is going above 3,200 FPS. Using published data the .30-06 is on the heels of the .300 Win Mag.

@TheDarmyman 7 дней назад

I have 4, 06, each has its use, could probably have less, but I like the cartridge. Have 3, 6.5x55, 7mm Mauser, 308, couple of 243's and on and on. Bunch of AR 10 and 15 platforms in a variety of calibers. Long and short of it, I see 06's on auctions weekly and they always sell.

@TheGDizzo 11 дней назад

BTW Ron... trapped deep out here in the heart of "Blue-nacy!" (SoCal LA/OC). Just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate how you constantly manage to slip-in all these neat little tips and gotchas and things to be careful of, and watch out for, as related to aspects of handloading! I'm CONSTANTLY picking-up little tidbits of better understanding from you sir! As they say "Each One, Teach One!" So Thank You! And many blessings for that knowledge sharing and contribution to what has become the worlds new de facto form of Documented History! So... unfortunately not being blessed with a more rural upbringing... many of us out here in SoCal who perhaps didn't have as much introduction to firearms as we'd have liked to have growing up... I greatly appreciate what I glean from your shows, as it saves me copius amounts of time in even knowing what search terms to even begin using to read-up further on a topic.

@evanwindom 20 дней назад

I own a handful of rifles chambered in different cartridges. They range from .22LR to .45-75. If I could only keep one rifle for hunting, it would be my Winchester Model 70 in .30-06. It's the rifleman's rifle, in the king of chamberings. Overall, a really nice video, Ron.

@GeorgeCKoppmann-ur7rl 17 дней назад

Having been a Gunsmith for 45+ yrs. I have to cite the makes and models of just the Rifles that have passed thru my shop. Consider how many of the following "will be pointing at any enemy from behind every tree" should they dare to invade the USA. 1903/1903-A1 Springfields, (and their variants), AND, the number of P17 Eddystone variants; AND the number of M1 Garands all added to the Remington Mod. 742 / 760s; Rem. 700s; Win. Mod. 70s; Sav. Mod110s; Browning Bolt, Lever and Semi-auto Actions plus any number or other Mfgrs. (too numerous to mention), (none of which are likely to 'go away' regardless of how hard the "Anti-Gunners" keep trying). SO, some Factory Loading of the 30-06 Cartridge will be found on the shelves of virtually every small town Hardware/General store in the USA, (even if Big Box Stores don't carry it). THEN, fast forward to the Spring of 2024 AND, now it's available in America's 'so called' Favorite Rifle, the AR-10 platform. 30-06, Obsolete, I think not !

@detroitandclevelandfan5503 7 дней назад

I believe it will always be around like the 30-30.

@user-em1fu8eg8l 14 дней назад

I am 70 years old. Been shooting the same 3006 for 35 years model 70 Winchester . I have bought other rifles and gave them away. I guess i will be a one rifle guy till i die and my grandson gets it.

@Zer0Edits00 14 дней назад

I have a 243, a 303 British, a 6.5 CM, and a 30-06, and they are all amazing and functional rifles for what they’re made to do. 30-06 is a beast of a cartridge and even though it’s “boring” to a lot of people, it will always be consistent and viable in any hunting situation

@dlkline27 17 дней назад

Excellent presentation. Thanks!

@kirkboswell2575 19 дней назад

One point about the Garand - it was originally going to be a 0.276 and a 10 round clip. McArthur knew war was coming and didn't want a bunch of different calibers in the supply line, so he insisted that the Garand be chambered in 30-06, which reduced the clip capacity to 8. This was done, but the Springfield load (174 grains at 2700 fps) was beating the guns up too fast. There's some controversy about this part, but I learned that the 30-06 was downloaded for the Garand to a 147 grain bullet at 2700 fps. to preserve its useful life. The spec difference between 30-03 cases and the 30-06 cases is just one millimeter. The performance difference between the two is quite significant. Also, the reason you never see a 30-03 rifle is because all the rifles already made were recalled and rechambered. Also, there's a sabot available to allow the use of 22 caliber bullets.

@ironked 15 дней назад

To me, one of the big popularity incentives was the late 50s/early 60s gov’t firesale of 1903 rifles. My Dad bought his for $17 in 1960. Made it a prime hunter. Many were beautifully sporterized.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 15 дней назад

Ah, the good old days.

@user-et6sz3il2n 19 дней назад

Ron, you got me again! I saw the video title and thought, "what the heck is he talking about...!!?" I did indeed watch the entire video, and kept waiting for you to disparage the ol' '06... and you never did! My hunting days are over, but I still have and shoot both my 270 (Rem 700BDL) and my 30'06 (BRN BAR), completely reliable rigs. Thanks for the info/insight.

@user-pk8xe2hf5l 8 дней назад

This is nuts!! The cartridge will be here another 100 yrs. There are lots of M1 Garands around as well as many other old lever action rifles.

@osulxa 5 дней назад

No way. This cartridge will out live us all.

@granitesand78 19 дней назад

I’m 39 and the 3006 is my all time favorite cartridge. It’s all American and just such a useful cartridge. I like new stuff like the 7prc too but yeah the 06 will always be tops for me.

@donadams9755 20 дней назад

The 30-06 isn't sexy, but it works.

@routerider9542 18 дней назад

The ought six will be around for as long as there are big game hunters. The fact is like many things- it's extremely difficult to improve on perfection. The 30-06 is an example of this statement.

@lectro88 13 дней назад

I'm a hand loader and I run 2 rifle calibers, .308 & .223. Those 2 do anything I need or want. And I tend to load my rounds way light because I don't need to p!$$ extra powder down the barrel and most my shots are close because of foliage. or just plinking at paper or cans. I have some 85 grain tips that I can plink with 15/20 gr. of powder that could send a yote or crow to the other side. and be so pleasant to shoot. And I can run those in a 06 or a .308 case. (Do your own research as my loads could squib in "your" or other rifles) That's the other thing, loading milder rounds not only loads me more ammo per pound of powder, but they are... I will use the word graceful for color. rather than being full tilt bulging my cases. The last upside to loading light, is re-sizing brass is a breeze. But having a cartridge that you can run 15 grains or 60 grains of powder, fits the definition of versatile in my book. And obsolete or not I don't care if they stop making ammo tonight.

@user-ts8zx2ch7c 20 дней назад

The future of the 30-06 is in copper solid ammunition. The 30-06 has a longer neck and deeper shoulder than the 308 Winchester allowing for the room for the larger and heavier solid copper bullets, than of course their lead counter parts. This makes the 30-06 more suited for loading solid copper bullets, a bonus for states that require lead-free hunting like California. There are other composite bullets who need the larger space in the 30-06 neck in order for the bullet to have the proper weight and aerodynamics to fly with decent ballistic coefficients. While these larger, longer bullets can be loaded in cartridges like 308, 300 Savage, and 270 Winchester, they would be too long or too light weight to give ideal terminal performance.

@irelandsailor 2 дня назад

There are just 2 factors in a cartridge. Caliber and case capacity. A third factor comes with the barrel. The twist rate.

@congerthomas1812 14 дней назад

I have never liked the 06 but I don't hunt large game. It will never go away, ever.

@matthewangotti7205 20 дней назад

It was a trick. That said, he is right on extolling the virtues.

@wiseguy4368 20 дней назад

The 30-60 will not go obsolete in your life time. It is still one of the do it all cartridges.

@glockparaastra 20 дней назад

My 26" 308Win performs like a short barrel 30-06. But for a short barrel dedicated hunting (walk and stalk) rifle I prefer my 7X64. Can't beat a 7mm!

@TheWirksworthGunroom 16 дней назад

I'm still using 303 British for target and deerstalking. Have even taken a Grey squirrel with it. 30-06 seems like a newcomer in comparison!

@Westcoast_LIFE 20 дней назад

I love this podcast I recently purchased cva 30-06 I live in California so no lead ammunition I'm going to try 165 grain barnes tsx any info or tips would greatly appreciated thank you ron spomer

@RonSpomerOutdoors 19 дней назад

No major tips required, Westcoast. That 165 TSX (or TTSX) is devastating out of a 30-06. Actually a bit excessive for deer (perfect for elk in my estimation) so you might want to try a 150-gr. or even 130-grain if wind deflection isn't a major concern. Guys are using the 130-gr. Barnes on elk with satisfactory results.

@Westcoast_LIFE 19 дней назад

I really appreciate the knowledge I'm going to and around with some loads to see what my gun shoots well wish me luck

@eriksforestryvision8751 15 дней назад

Great video Ron watched the whole thing and been enjoying your ought six series, thanks!

@RonSpomerOutdoors 14 дней назад

Thanks Erik

@simonsparks5738 19 дней назад

Thanks boss Ron.

@russellkeeling4387 18 дней назад

Over my many years of hunting and shooting I have come to realize why the 30-06 is the standard by which all other cartridges are judged. I have ventured into the realm of other cartridges over the years and have owned many firearms. As I aged I have reduced the number of firearms I own and have settled on three cartridges as my go to for big game hunting. First the grandfather of the 30-06, the 7x57, then the 30-06 and for massive game I use the 35 Whelen which is based on the 30-06 case. I need no other rifles and have sold off all the magnum rifles I have owned. The 30-06 will not be obsolete in my household and family but the new cartridges won't even get into my home.

@csipawpaw7921 14 дней назад

I believe you are right about the maximum pressure. During the second half of the nineteenth century, engineers were trained to err well on the side of caution. Bridges were often designed to handle more than twice their recommended load and steam engines were designed to hold much more than their recommended pressures. So it is only logical to believe firearms were designed to handle a lot more than their recommended pressures. This emphasis on safety might be partly due to lawsuits that steamed from overloading bridges and all the firearms and riverboat steam engines being pushed too far and blowing up before the Civil War. P.S. Old timers said "OTT" for zero to prevent it being confused with the letter "O". It is the same as drawing a line through a zero to distinguish it from a "O".

@tonynoel2844 15 дней назад

Been lovin the ole 30-06 for almost 50 years and have enough brass and bullets/powder for 2 lifetimes favorite caliber FOREVER!!!!!!!

@mikegodin5118 19 дней назад

Thanks Ron great video. I been shooting 3006 for 45+ years and hunt Canadian moose mostly and the odd Muley. I've taken bear, deer and wolves also. I wasn't surprised at the ballistic comparison but was wondering about the recoil comparison that could influence the smaller hunters at the rifle range. (mind you that the last thing going thru your mind when you got a moose in your sight) . I always recommend the 30-06 to new hunters as it has a gamete of load size for every game, but since form is critical for accuracy and the smaller/new hunters tend to flinch I now recommend the 308 (or reload light recoil 30-06 plinker for them to practice) since the 308 also has good selection of rounds, similar performance and tend to be a little gentler on those shoulders. Again great work!

@RonSpomerOutdoors 19 дней назад

Practicing with lighter bullets in the 30-06 is a fine way to minimize recoil. Handloaders, of course, can really dial down the velocity for mild practice rounds. To minimize recoil from full-power hunting rounds, try lighter all-copper hollow points like Barnes, Cutting Edge, Hammer Hunters, etc. A 130-gr. copper penetrates as well as most traditional 150- to 165-grain lead core bullets.

@clintonlayne9253 20 дней назад

Ron , I once commented on the availability of the 3006 ammunition stating that you can find it nearly anywhere. A gentleman commented that he was on an Elk hunt and found a box of 3006 on the trail . With the abundance of rifles chambered in 3006 it would not be too expensive to change out the barrel to a 35 Whelen . I'm presently mulling that over.