ERUPTOR GOT A HUGE DAMAGE BUFF SO I TESTED IT VS EVERYTHING - HELLDIVERS 2 BEST PRIMARY WEAPONS 

you can def run it!

​@Crazymrpipz Definitely can but they can literally buff it by taking out the animation of pulling the lever to reload u don't need it cause u can cancel the animation It still don't have the damage it had when we first got it but that long reload Is not faster than a rocket devastator after u shoot it change that and I'll forget about the shrapnel

I heard the shrapnel was removed because it could potentially do 9000 damage if the shrapnel all went the same direction so the devs are struggling with buffing it without it outperforming a eagle airstrike.

​@DakkaDakka12 the theoretical maximum wasn't a thing. It never happened. Total overreaction and classic AH, nerf something because of a different system. Or buff in the case of fire damage. They buffed fire damage multiple times before fixing the actual problem.

I want -0.5s reload time

Try Crossbow it can 1-2 shot spewer.

So do I. From where I stand, eruptor was flawlessly balanced with the commander and hiveguard one-shots, for the kind of fire rate and projectile limitations it had. Shrapnel needs to return, pronto.

@@Kyugorn yes, for it slow and slugish fire rate it need to pack a punch.

@@Kyugorn it was mad OP, first update eruptor was a better support weapon for handling smallfry than the machinegun, despite being a mere primary

@@bbbbende Assuming what you are saying is true, that means taking an anti-vehicle support weapon would also be a good idea.

Ricocheting itself wasn't the issue. What that patch really fixed was a bug that prevented you from getting hit by your own projectiles, period. Where before your shrapnel could only hurt squadmates, now it could also hit you. That meant there was a slim chance of dying to your own shrapnel EVERY TIME you fired the Eruptor, no matter what. A piece could just come straight backwards and kill you even on a direct hit.

@@66maybe66 Idk, bro. It never happened to me, and I spammed that weapon on the bots front. It was the only reason I liked playing versus the bots, tbh.

@@eddiemitza2544 It never happened to most people. But the rare times when it did happen, across such a massive community, added up quick. People started sharing examples of oneshotting themselves with shrapnel post-patch and triggered an outrage campaign on reddit and discord within a day. It was compounded by flatout misinformation about rockets supposedly 180'ing back at the shooter based on a scuffed video, and RU-vidrs misreading the patch notes and assuming Arrowhead literally hardcoded a chance for ricochets to home in on the shooter regardless of angle. People HATED that patch, en masse, despite 99% of the community not even understanding what changed (and still not understanding to this day). 24 hours later Arrowhead made an announcement saying they looked into it and all the community's supposed evidence of oneshots was fake except for the Eruptor clips. So they fixed the problem.

@@66maybe66 The problem is they fixed it at the expense of one of the most beloved weapons in the game.

​@@66maybe66Plasma Punisher can still self hit. I don't get why they felt the need to babysit us with the weapon. Self damage and friendly fire is nothing new on explosive weapons.

happy u liked it as well!

Yeah but the JAR-5 is better than the Eruptor in almost every way and can dump it's mag much faster, a mag that when you do basic math contains 4125 damage with medium pen vs the Eruptor at around 2850 damage with medium pen. It's only advantage is the ability to close bug holes. While the Eruptor is better than before using it simply puts you at a disadvantage. Prior to all the changes it was great for covering your team from a distance and providing overwatch but now you can use it if you want to RP with it. Sure you will kill stuff but you won't be exactly good at it. 2 to 3 shots to kill a brood commander is insane given how long it takes you to fire those shots and its AOE, or lack of, means if you wanna clear up trash you should run the i-breaker or sickle. The weapon takes considerable skill to use, unlike the i-breaker which takes considerable skill to not set your teammates on fire with, and skill hence aiming and placing shots in relevant areas should be rewarded not given further irrelevancy.

Fair, alternatively the new Bushwhacker is a good backup option for CQC or run the stalwart as your support for mob clearing. Also highly recommend the jumppack for consistent quick access to higher elevations, makes ad clear 10x easier, plus at higher elevations it's very reasonable to do some precision sniper work and weave shots near allies without hitting them

that build is insanely fun not gonna lie

My man! I never thought to add the bushwhacker to that combo

For what its worth, it doesnt need a mag increase

Decreasing ammo capacity is actually a buff for the supply pack which was too weak (if you can do difficulty 9 missions without even needing to use all the supply drops available, why would you need a supply pack?). Just a tip from a player with many hundreds of hours in the game. Treat the mag like it has a capacity of 4 rounds. Always reload with one round in the chamber. The devs are fans of real guns. When there's 1 round left, that mag is empty and that last round is in the chamber. So, when you reload and drop your mag you don't lose any rounds. And, because there is already a round in the chamber you don't need the animation to chamber that first round. This makes the animation shorter which means more rounds per minute. The original eruptor was wildly over powered. They nerfed it and accidentally made it worse than they anticipated (their dev team isn't very good). The buff they just gave it pretty much brings it in line with where you would want it. Most mediums are a single shot. It's still got solid AOE ability from a distance. The larger mediums are two shots, but with enough AOE that you can use two shots to eliminate two of the larger mediums if they're close enough ... and that gets you back in line with a single shot per medium. The real test are the stalkers and bile spewers.

​@@zero11010 Good morrow fellow helldiver, I wanted to commend your informative comment in the hopes that you will continue to spread the joys of democracy to those who do not know it.

@@VicetheGreat Very kind of you. Thanks.

BROOOOO... please tell me you know what I mean :D:D:D:D:D

I do, I have this problem with other games as well, my button press just not registering

Well you see, you moved slightly and there was a pebble so you took that whole mag back out.

@@CrazymrpipzI can’t tell you how many times I’ve reloaded, went to shoot and the mag was still empty. Lol

Ikr we got used to it being so OP that we can’t envision it without that shrapnel. Would have been better if it was never released with it so we would have never got attached to it. It wasn’t working as intended I get that a primary shouldn’t be doing more Dps than a Recoiless Rife but we will just have to have fun with it in other ways. Still needs better reload or chambering rounds.

​@@YellowshirtmannIt should at least oneshot a brood commander IMO. But it doesn't because of the weird breakpoints. So it feels like it barely has more punch than the dominator because of that. Meanwhile the dominator is semi auto and can dish out 5x the damage per second.

​@@Yellowshirtmannagreed...a primary shouldn't be that op

So glad I got to use it pre nerf.

​@@SuperCatacata it's better now since you can get 3 or 4 per shot while Dommy is 1 per(unless you get some penetration) but ya not 1 hitting broods feels bad, I just hit them once then try to hit something nearby with 2nd shot so brood dies from splash and I get at least another kill or two with the bullet

I think every reticle got a make over. At least the ones I've seen so far. I am SO happy they finally put the same love and care into the reticles as they do their reload animations. A great QoL change.

@@hendrickstrauss3311 that's great news. I hope the stupid green blob reticle on the railgun is removed as well.

lets go man! shrapnel next!

Bro ikr

Definitely loved running this combo

Apparently the HMG is pretty good now. Haven’t tried it yet but thinking of running Eruptor/HMG

@@markfreier7194 the heavy machine gun is pretty awesome now. It shreds everything

@@markfreier7194they decreased the reload time by about a second and increased the damage per round from 100 to 150. They also buffed its armor pen rating by 1 so it’s doing full damage to medium armor zones more often but it still won’t penetrate heavy armor. It rate of fire is slower which is also a buff.

I think it isn’t a bug weapon anymore. The break points are awkward and its niche is as a medium target clearer. Bugs come too numerous for that and demand higher power for the big boys. It has returned as an absolute scrap maker for bots though. Reliable takedown of Devastators and Scout Striders while getting even better Berserker breaks make it excellent for most enemies. The standard bots are kind enough to stay still and clump, so AoE does good work. Paired with the Bushwacker (CQC alternate) and a support to deal with heavies and it becomes a very reliable combination from my experience.

Not exactly, still missing the shrapnel damage which was great at taking down mobs.

It may not have shrapnel but it's better in one way than it used to be!

My issue is that the description for it still mentions the shrapnel

kind of, but also not really. Mag size is still too low, or the fire rate is still much too slow for what it does. Animation canceling shouldn't be the best way to use the weapon by far, but it is.

to the head? ive havent needed more than 2 to the head, the sack is weird :D

agreed!

soudns like a build!

it feels good man! it really does!

well that cant be possible right? it got a HUGE damage buff and u can feel it

NOTHING in the game should ever be 1 shot unless its just the tiniest of the tiniest of the tiniest enemies. Anyone expecting they should be a 1 shot HellGod in the game should really move on and find another game.

@@lutherheggs451 Terrible philosophy. Anti-fun. Sweaty gatekeeping. Go play dark souls.

100%

thanks man!!!

its also tested vs bots n the video... woopie :D:D:D:D

yuuuuuuuuup!

yes, one shot to the front plate will drop the scout striders

trust me u dont wanna do that :D:D its worthless almost but i gotta do more testing

yes they did!!!

2 to the head seems like depends how many meters you are could be 3 depending on the range

@@Yellowshirtmann Aww... was hoping it was back in the 1-2 range.

lets goooooooooooooooo

they never took that away

Mg-43 is a good Pick now for bots. I was able to take down multiple Devastators, of all variants in one clip on bots. As for bugs, the flamethrower is arguably the best Support Weapon, being able to take on anything but the Bile Titans. Charger in the Vacinity? Fire at its front or back legs for a couple seconds. Overrun by little bugs? Stun Grenade and spray the ground. And, the Ship Module that increases the Fire Damage by 25% makes it that much better. You have a Crowd Clearer and a Single Target powerhouse paired with these 2.

I run eruptor on bots and I go with new shotgun pistol as secondary as "oh shit they are on me" moments and impact grenades for blob clear, new armor passive makes eruptor quite nimble at aiming. as for stratagems I run laser dog for chaff clearing, eats or quasar for heavier stuff or airships, eagle rocket and laser for sweeping

why would u hate someone for that?:D the reason nobody cares about it in test videos is because it doesnt matter? all enemies have same HP regardless of the lvl of the game, so when ur testing the DAMAGE why would it matter? also its not me that doesnt show it its the change they added, in the old videos it just always showed up top right, with this update it doesnt untill I look at the map

ITS DOG SHIT UR RIGHT!!! what was I thinking (i know im late but better late than never)

Speaking of whiners...

naaha its awesome man!

This post right here democracy officer!👮

aaaaaaaaand... nooooooooooo

thats the spirit :D:D:D:D:D

I think total damage should get buffed until it 1 shots brood commander in the head. It's fine if the increase comes from direct damage in case more splash would be too good.

Honestly, that was my thought too. I stopped using eruptor, but seeing this, I'm about to try it with the stalwart later today for sure!

Would the medium machine gun be better now with the eruptor ?

@@N7_Bunny it would actually work well but the stalwart covers more of the eruptors weakness

That might kill a brood commander when shooting the head and would make for a nice break point.

You're right of course, but also, don't empty the Eruptor's mag anyway. Most guns skip the racking animation if you reload before empty, and keep one bullet in the chamber. You'll get a faster reload with no loss of ammo.

You can interrupt the racking animation with a reload. I actually enjoy that because it feels like a skill for the Eruptor.

It's pretty good against the bots

​@@335chr How's it fair against gunships and factory strider walkers?

I’ve tried myself. Gunships are hard to hit but are 2 shots in the weak spot. Like most primaries, you’ll have better luck against Striders with a support weapon. I think they kind of work, but you’re dealing with a weapon that already generally relies on flanking a Hulk (or shooting its legs out…8 shots when shrapnel existed, but probably more now).

@@ThePartisan13 I haven't tried it against those

@@kirant I tried it, it's a little too difficult for my ability. I'm able to mostly hit them but I'm missing the weak spots and just waste ammo, the round itself is too slow compared to the AMR. Also doesn't seem to do anything against the factory walker strider, can't even knock off the two front miniguns it has. Granted this weapon wasn't really designed for all that but I just figured since the scorcher can take out heavy enemies that the eruptor would be able to.

Lets be real, they're not laughing, they're either running because the arc won't hit the enemy or they are dead.

ya I think the mag thing is a bug and they will fix it

Does the swap cancel still work?

​@@Solkard yes

I think making it have less damage falloff on the blast radius might work too, it seems like it does great aoe damage if enemies are touching each other, and you really cant complain about it's single target damage.

@@DakkaDakka12 i can and i will it used to 1tap brood commanders AND have a decent Aoe, i would much rather die to the old eruptor shrapnel than whatever this is #notmyeruptor