ESCAPE THE MALICE TRAP! Fix these MISTAKES holding you back! | Warhammer 40k: DARKTIDE 

Funnily enough, I often find more often than not, Damnation is more relaxing because I don't have juggle or pick up the slack of my teammates as much. Literally just came out of a Malice mission and I had to save at any given time 2 of my teammates... I guess that's what the video is for!

@@rykenxiv Great video. I agree much of the time playing damnation is somehow easier/less painful because generally everyone knows what to do and how to do it so its just a question of doing it but on malice (and heresy more so) it can require a lot of saving people from situations they shouldn't be in. to put it fairly as I was very much in that camp when I first played. One sugestion for players wishing to improve in addition to this excellent list would be to experiment with another playstlye. I play veteran and zealot so learnt close and near combat fairly well but it wasn't until I played Psyker a few things really clicked about placement, defence and situational awareness because a psyker without those is waiting for respawn.

honestly I find most damnations take closer to half an hour, i've never been stuck in an infinite horde ever but i'm also very used to tide games and came from way too much time playing cata so i find moving through the "infinite hordes" (they aren't infinite they just pull ambient spawns and if you clear them too slow you'll start to overlap events) to be perfectly doable. I think more players need to practice more on heresy first

@@rykenxiv Damnation pugs are way worse than Malice pugs. Malice pugs are usually level 30 people farming contracts missions ASAP because you can complete an assassination mission in 7-8 minutes. It's people way over qualified and geared to even by on those missions. Damnation pugs are full of people biting off more than they can chew. At least on Malice you can leave someone to run off on their own and expect them to actually come back alive despite fighting off several specialists. On Damnation if someone wonders off, they're not coming back. I play Malice when i'm experimenting with off meta builds to see if i'd enjoy them, then take them into Damnation when i'm confident with them. Or as i mentioned earlier, i'm speed running some missions for my weekly contracts to get the bonus for completing all of them.

@@wingnutmcmoomoo494 "infinite horde" is what I call it and it isn't pulling random mob groups - it actually spawn new mobs again and again. Happened 2 times with me after interrogation event. Infested trash just keep spawning and you have infinite flow of them from a door. As you move forward - they move with you and your squad is constantly pressured from behind.

Absolutely agree! Its enough that enemies will try and force you out of position, but to do it to yourself just makes the mission that much harder. Knowing when to fall back and take advantage of a choke is something I rarely see pubs but is one way to easily increase the success of surviving an encounter - it's definitely something for everyone to learn!

best technique i can recommend is when fighting a horde in the open is keep an eye out for the swoosh sound to tell you your about to get hit, and deal with the horde as you move from side to side to emulate fighting against a wall, also a keen understanding of how your weapon functions best in engagements

If only this game had a driller.

​@@DralisethROCK AND STONE!

Indeed! it baffles me why people don't tag - its free information and helps you know what to prioritize!

@@rykenxiv I know exactly why: people don't want their kills taken. You tag an enemy you are rushing towards and a good teammate will naturally swing to it and start balsting if they are unoccupied (which is good) but some people have egos and just want kills instead of wins.

As a newer player it amazed me how easy a game was when we had a vet spamming his tag button on anything that wasn't a scab basically. We were able to just rip through specials so fast it made me really tag more when I remember to

I quite like how kills don't really matter in Darktide. It doesn't matter who kills what, even just distracting or slowing foes can be a vital contribution.

Not only that friend but i have been in almost 90 percent of the missions be the only one with the psyker to cover our backs,everyone else is rushing forward for resources not noticing the hordes that charge us and i can do only much to hold my ground. Also many players wont let you gather resources when you are able to.

I agree with Malice being a chill place to relax and enjoy (compared to everything else above where you'll need to start paying attention) but at the end of the day, I think as long as you aren't making everyone else's life harder, if fine to play how you feel (but still be considerate and have the team in mind since this is a coop game after all)

I play nothing but damnation/auric and you can easily squeeze most builds in there, you just gotta make sure your teammates aren't griefing. (and that you aren't either, pick the build for the job.)

I’m with you. And not having at least one other player in the headphones makes high difficulties that much harder. If I had a full team, even damnation would be more relaxed.

Yes! Keep enemies off your team is such a crucial thing to do! Sometimes it feels so disappointing that I spend the game keeping things off my team but no one does the same for me :( If your Psyker is covering you, who is covering the Psyker?

@@rykenxiv I feel you with that Psyker part :(

Here I am as a shield ogryn who can solo an entire horde of shit mobs only to have to kill gunners 1 by 1 with my kick back because the 3 veterans on my team refuse to kill the shooters. Bullets are an ogryns only weakness

Auric Maelstrom = traditional tryhard breakfast

Kerillion is off on the other side of the map and goes down.

The Sharpsoohter thing i find most annoying, but i have to admit that as a zealot player i have to admit that it happens to often that i rush in without thinking because it is fun if it works. If it works....

I really enjoy it when the preachers on my team have the same purpose as my sharpshooter but in melee - they see shooters as prime targets and rush into them, locking them all in melee (most of the time) and go ham on them. Then whatever that isn't tied into melee, I can take out and cover them.

Ogryn shield players need to not endlessly block for no reason.

Ogryns: get out of the way you big fat fucking wall.

​@Braised Toast what if the ogryn is blocking shots so one can rez in relative safety And still get told it's pointless to bring the shield

Bro for real

I dont understand the refusal to heal, there is absolutely no benefit to you or your team.

​@@flynnmayne2055 I don't as a zealot unless I'm really low cuz I get buffs from martyrdom. Combine full build martyrdom with my ultra bleeding combat knife I shred everything at lightning speeds.

Haha, that quote couldn't be more true! Looking at you Vermintide 1 and 2!

When they stop playing thought, the game will be even more dead. You need constant new players to keep multiplayer games alive.

​@@cattysplatTitanfall 2 😢

TF2 has a similar issue, but it's negligent devs and a wonderfully made game.

Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed having Issac around! I feel you - it's painful to have people on the team actively make your life more difficult than it has to be...

Excellent point - getting a different perspective from how different classes function will give an idea on what their role is and a different perspective too!

It's kinda natural for PvP players like myself, Know Thy Enemy. In any pvp game with multiple classes you want to know all of them, just like you'll learn everything about elites specialists etc in darktide, people should also know what other classes can do but since there is no pvp I won't play them, I'm just trying to note what others do/need, I know I'm helping with ammo as aPsyker cause I don't use any, I have a friend who plays zealot and ogryn and I often ask him what stuff do, also inspect players in the mourningstar to read talents

Thank you for the support! I certainty will!

Man I know you. . . Your terrible.

@@jmarks3980z lol. I know. :/

Did a heresy maelstrom last night with 2 zealots and a psyker. Me and the psyker would look up from clearing out a pack or mobs to see both zealots sprinting 100m away. Zealots, please, stop pushing forward past your support. Yes, I know you are quick and like bashing things in the face. Slow down.

@@legessiFor me playing as a veteran, when I run low on ammo, my team likes to highlight the ammo and as soon as I grab it, I turn around and they are 500m away and the AI director tries to punish me from wandering away from the team by spawning disablers. Luckily I have played a LOT of L4D and can handle the disablers most of the time, but that makes me fall even farther behind and then they complain through chat I'm not helping when I've been asking them over voice to slow down.

Glad it was helpful!

Good on you for having the self-awareness to do that!

Thanks for watching! Glad you found something useful from it!

just in case you didnt find out, you can even do it with your staff and melee. i found that out on accident and before that i was swapping from staff to quell on brain burst

You'll get better with practice - take every combat encounter as a chance to learn if you made the right call when it comes to your positioning! As for the Trauma Staff - it's probably the highest skill ceiling weapon in the Psyker's arsenal in terms of mechanics and it's definitely going to take some dedicated practice to use it effectively! I've been using nothing but Trauma staff in my Damnation gameplays for almost 50 hours and I've still got much to learn about it!

@@rykenxiv ooh okay, I am using the purge staff atm but that one really shines when going for a soulblaze build. some use the surge staff because of a nice balance between dmg and CC. Might try out some more staves and see which one is more fun to play 😊

Being a veteran main myself I find specials/disablers are first priority, followed by high damaging ranged enemies and lastly the "ranged horde" or large groups of ranged enemies as other classes can't mow them down quite like a veteran can.

It'll come if you try to get better. :D

Pretty sure there is always HP damage.

It can be very satisfying to bully everything in Malice - sometime I do just that for stress relief haha

If you are on a plasteel farm, which is almost all the time for me (13K Diamantine 60 plasteel currently haha), playing heresy is not optimum. In the time it takes me do two Heresy missions (which can result in fails) in public, i can do four games of Malice and end up with more plasteel. I want to play Heresy. I;d like to actually TRY Damnation but there no point when i get more from malice. And given teh RNG state of craftign and the fact i dont' play this game more than an hour at night i should be setup for damantion some time next christmass HAHA

It was the best way to farm mats but since the patch its now damnation as you can get 800+ plasteel from a single mission and 650-750 is more common. Heresy gives 400 ish and malice is netting up to 300 ish. Also as the Emperor now gifts better rewards on higher difficulty theres a better chance of a nice t4 blessing the harder the mission.

@@notwhatitwasbefore not reliable. Rolling with randoms that is unviable.

@@DominicMaez if you are solo then yes its going to be down to if you get a good team or not. completion can be an issue as can ability to go looking for loot however I've wiped on damnation near the end and still had over 200 plasteel so not a total waste. If farming on damnation is possible in your situation then it is the way to do it if not then go for heresy its better than malice for time/rerward now, before the patch it was malice 100% as rewards were essentially the same and malice is quicker/easier.

@@notwhatitwasbefore clearly farming in damnation for me it’s not. Having the team wipe afte the first jump after the drop ship in randoms makes it not viable and currently runs on malice result in people blining to the end. Right now to restate, again, I’m not playing as people are just playing to end the mission asap in malice. The people I played on heresy and damnation all don’t play any more and won’t play. They don’t like the game and feel it’s a waste to play with it. They stopped in December and for me at 500 hours malice is still nice to play with randoms. Anything higher you are at 60-80% failure. People not picking up anything other than ammo. People zipping to the elevator and leaving the group to fight all the mobs they skipped. People staring at you while your down and letting the mobs slaughter you have been common since the path in malice and higher as I’ve seen.

@@DominicMaez I started playing in december when I got the game and my experience of the game/others is very different to what you describe. I don't play malice anymore unless its for a speedy mission comp on sundays for the weekly. I play mostly damnation solo if needs must and complete most missions even on damnation solo. The massive drop off in player base might be why my experience is so different as the steam player numbers in december were like 75K+ and the player base just prior to the crafting patch was around 5K. Perhaps the remaining players at damnation know what they are doing now. give it a try if its been awhile since you last tried it out. If you put 500 hours in (im only at 400 ish) you clearly like the game allot.

My Psyker is max height - though I would say unless they fix the hitbox for height differences, go for being short - being too tall makes you still able to get shot from behind cover sometimes!

Heresy is probably the most challenging difficulty to do in quickplay because your team will be more of a mixed bag of seasoned players and Malice players trying their hand at breaking in. Whereas in Damnation, most of the people playing there know what to do, so you can depend on your pub teammates most of the time!

Its part of my Psykinetic's Wrath video! The base Psyker Combat ability and the upgraded Venting Shriek is able to penetrate through terrain and up to 30m in a cone. This means you can knock someone who has been pounced by a poxhound even if you can't see them (as long as you are within 30m)!

I know the feeling too! It's like playing support on DotA 2 - thankless job but necessary for success

eh enemies have a habit of literally popping out of nowhere so I don't begrudge the odd horde mob somehow getting me in the back, there is a lot going on and I can't know what exactly caused it to happen. I just play with wide sweeping weapons and swing my camera wildly to keep the awareness up.

FOV of this game is terrible by default an deven when you widen it its still too narrow so lots of enemies can just "SPAWN" behind team mates cos you can't see em. I normally play on 110FOV in most games but it doens't go that high in Darktide.

One small thing about Ranged into Melee, especially on Sharpshooter. You can get away with this if you are using a build which generates more toughness to allies on ranged kills and you have a high damage rapid fire weapon like the bolter or las pistol (although using the Bolter to clear trash is a bad habit). I typically run that build so that I can support frontliners from any distance which keeps me out of coherency most of the match but I make up for it with overwatch coverage and rapid fire high precision shots to cover the backs of my allies. It's all about strategy and even without comms (since I am deaf), never had an issue with full randoms on all difficulties. Normally where things fall apart is on the extra modifiers such as the hound packs since I can't hear when they spawn and if no one types it, I only know they've spawned once they're on my screen. Ultimately, Dark Tide needs more deaf assistance. Especially since so much of the game is audio based and those who are hard of hearing (veterans and those with normal disabilities) or outright deaf are playing with a massive disadvantage. It's not like Destiny where your situational awareness alone is enough to compensate, the fact there's no indication that an enemy has spawned for a deaf person is a huge factor and there's a surprising amount of the games population who would benefit from deaf assistance.

Yes! I usually do a good job of keeping things off my team - but sometimes (especially on Malice) I observe how they play and let a single stray poxwalker get near them to see if they react and... it's like they aren't aware that they are getting stabbed from behind.. One of the problems of being a good teammate and being on overwatch for your team is you sometimes forgive their mistakes by being proficient at your job.. which reinforces bad habits as well..

@@ordwinrahl6655 That sharpshooter build is great when used correctly. Throw on Confirmed Kill, Unwavering Focus and Counterfire and you can just stand front line shooting and not worry as long as you're actually killing specials/elites. Unwavering Focus does, but isnt supposed to, seemingly reduces damage done to toughness you take from melee as well as ranged. Also do you mean the feat "Covering Fire"? As far as Ive tried in the past I couldnt tell if it was actually working for either myself or even my teamates. I'd love to use it more if it is actually functional. I have to sympathize with what you mean as your experience being a deaf player. A lot of Darktide is sound cues. I have some hearing damage from range days back in my short time in the Army-Reserves from poorly using earplugs or the lack thereof using any or whatever. Sometimes I miss the sounds too when things get really crazy. Im sure for someone who misses them more or simply cant hear them this game can be very tough. The sound cues for specials/elites, sound cues for when an enemy is about to hit you out of view would be entirely useless. Maybe if they implemented some kind feature that communicated "someone is going to hit you out of view" in a visual way that could help. And maybe for special/elite/monster spawns they could put an enemy icon in the top corner near the kill feed to let you know "Trapper spawned, maybe look behind you". I dont think any of this would infringe on the difficulty of the game, it'd just help players with hearing difficulties like you say have a fairer time playing.

@@rykenxiv I notice this especially when I started to play ogryn. In most situations I’m naturally inclined to keep melee enemies off my ranged friends. But on lower difficulty there really isn’t much going on. So when I see them die to a couple star groaners it’s a bit silly. Just had a match the other day doing quick runs on malice for a weekly, a player with 5 wounds full die at least twice during the same event. I couldn’t even protect them because every couple enemies they’d walk them across the arena. I just really hope they’re having fun more than anything

@@Heavynaut Yes, Covering Fire to my knowledge does not work on yourself, only allies. Which makes it great Synergy in hordes with say the Auto Pistol or full auto patterns of the Autogun (less so with the assault las since lasguns have lower bonuses to Pox Walkers in comparison). The range for it is kinda iffy though, because an enemy can be within striking range but because they're swinging from out of range and will land in range at the end of their charged up attack, they don't count as being in "melee" range of the player. From what I have seen, it seems to be based on the target players own attack range. So if they have a naturally larger "aura" of melee strike distance, they benefit more whereas if you take say a combat knife with the shortest engagement range, it might seem like it never works. It's not something I have been able to readily test but it does work, just not consistently. I find that the best benefit is to chainsword and powersword allies since they tend to walk directly on top of enemies and typically the Toughness you give them from snagging even 1 or 2 enemies gives them more than they would get for normal kills. Where the build backfires is if you kill Elites and the ally is a Veteran with the Confirmed Kill (+50% Toughness on Elite kill, additional Toughness over time) since they actually get far more for those kills and as a person who has done a lot of melee only Veteran gameplay, it really hurts if an ally steals that kill from you because it's the greatest source of Toughness regeneration (100 base Toughness and an additional 100 over time if you have no Toughness bonuses vs say the 25-50 everyone else gets for killing the Elite). I think CoD does it well on indicators. You get small arrows or radial wheel markers on your screen which points to enemies. In Cold War Zombies, there's a perk from a previous title which gives you a little arrow when an enemy is behind you but the indicator shows up when they are in attack range so you need to have fast reactions and can, on lower waves, typically respond before the hit. I typically play Knife only up to Wave 50 in Zombies and never had an issue with surviving even before that perk but it's an added bonus if you are using heavy arms like Sniper Rifles. They also have actual subtitles for all enemies in CoD Zombies. So you can tell what the enemy is at ranged which helps. Because it's PvE and not PvP, there's no "extra edge" for the team to get over the opposition in comparison to headsets tweaked to zero in on the important audios with third party applications. The fact Darktide doesn't have any of this just speaks to it not being a consideration since to my knowledge, none of the enemies have a single subtitle indicator. There's not even one for explosions in the distance or barrels.

For me, I bring a test build into Heresy because that's where its effectiveness will truly be tested. I feel you can get away with practically anything on Malice since the punishment is much lower

Naw - you Vermintide Vet! You have the muscle memory baked in already ;)

Box. Also the Agripinaa Combat Shotgun is a Preachers best friend now (for me). Almost lets me play like my Psyker with Brain Burst!

@@rykenxiv you only get two boxes

@@asrieldreemurr1918 And that's why you need to make them count! hahah I kid! But yes, generally, sniper duty isn't on the Ogryn - unless you have a Kickback or a Rumbler. Best you can do is ping it for your more capable teammates to handle. Play to your strengths and hope your teammates are competent enough to realize the situation. Darktide is a coop game after all and no one person should be fully capable of dealing with all situations effectively on their own