Escaping Llandegla: What's outside of the trail centre 

Yeah, that's it for trail centres until 2021 :D

Thanks mate. I love riding and ranting 😂

Thanks mate. I actually had to cut one scene out because my ranting at a sheep was going a bit too far 😂

Cheers mate and yeah, they really are fantastic trails; bit of everything on this route. Last year, I did the loop in the video and a full lap of Degla; that was one hell of a big ride 👍

Thanks mate. It's always a great ride around there, the views were a bonus as it's usually shrouded in clouds and mist !

Cheers mate; love the riding around Llangollen ❤️👍

Thanks mate, no intention of stopping any time soon although it's going to be a bit difficult over the next few weeks unfortunately. I guess I'll have to bimble around Chester again ranting about stuff 😃

Cheers mate, and we'll have to get out for a ride before long 👍

You'll love it mate, and you know we will be doing this loop soon enough 👍

It's the trail centre that I avoided (apart from the 20 yards where I took the piss) that gets rammed mate, the trails I rode you hardly see anyone, other than Roy Orbison of course 😃

Thanks mate. Yep, just the odd sheep and Roy Orbison of course 👍😂

Yeah not forgetting the Big O 😅😅

Cheers mate. The riding around there is stunning, as are the views when you can see them (not often, with it being North Wales 😃 )

Cheers mate 👍

Cheers Neil. Hopefully there’s enough to make your sub worthwhile, loads more to come too 👍

Thanks mate. Marc (TheGibMTB) and Toby Dog MTB are keen too, so we’ll get something organised, hopefully before it gets too sloppy 👍

@@Stopadoodledoo Sounds a plan. The last couple of rides i've had organised with Marc and Christian haven't happened for various reasons so be good to catch up. 👍

Thanks mate, the riding around that area is absolutely amazing and totally different in nature to the trail centre. Hopefully, the access laws will be changed in Wales soon and these trails will no longer be cheeky 👍

@@Stopadoodledoo Ive watched your vid in full its awesome & mate your commentary is mint you had me laughing loads !! But i must say beautiful scenery apart from the running/shitting sheep hahah 😂 subbed mate..

It was unbelievably dry and running so well, even though it's not exactly been dry of late. I love this loop, it's so good 👍

Cheers mate, big fan of Guy’s videos so praise indeed 😀👍. Definitely break out of Degla, you won’t be disappointed.

Oh yes, a proper big day out on the bike on some proper trails. It pales into insignificance compared to next weeks video though 😃

Hi mate. If you look me up on Strava (Jason Thomas, live in Chester), you should be able to find it. Fun guaranteed from this loop, ranting maybe not 😀

Thanks mate. It's definitely a route worth doing and if you get knackered, there's loads of options where you can cut bits out. For reference, I did 22 miles and 3800' of climbing

@@Stopadoodledoo cheers pal just found you on Facebook then that got me 2 your strava account 😁 ill be doing it this weekend now 👍 keep up the good work dude and great commentary is great 😂

Mate, it's awesome. You do put the miles and climbs in but totally worth it. Gets a bit boggy in places in mid winter but not to the point where it's unrideable. I'm just not a fan of Degla (as is blatantly clear in the video 😃)

@@Stopadoodledoo found a couple of "World's End" GPX routes that start out from the trail centre, 20 milesish. Worth chancing one of those or better to look for a route out of Llangollen?

You do get a couple of the nice descents in by breaking out of Degla but it misses out the last one in this. I guess you get to do all of Degla too though, if that takes your fancy. I once did the loop in this video and a full loop of Degla; it was 28 miles and 4800' of climbing. I was knackered 😃

@@Stopadoodledoo 4800! That's a right mission. Will have a gander on trailforks see what's about 👊

Don't know if you use Strava but it's on there (recent one and past ones, although the past ones are a bit lost as I recorded my commutes - twice a day). I'm Jason Thomas on there, live in Chester. Need that second bit as there's probably a lot of Jason Thomas's 😃

Hi mate. If you head over to Strava, I'm on there as Jason Thomas (live in Chester) and you should be able to find it 👍

Hi. This ride and many others are on my Strava account, Jason Thomas. 👍

Cheers John. I can see why people like Degla, it's purpose built trails that weave through the trees, pretty flowy, etc., but as you can probably guess, it's just not for me. Last time I rode it, I included it into the ride I did in this video and it was a huge day out; I was utterly knackered when I got back to the car. The trail centre part was my least favourite part of the loop! The World would be a worse place if we all liked the same things though :)

Those bastards did my nut in that day 😀

Cheers buddy. It's not so much the goggles (well it is...) but the fact that they are invariably on the back of their helmets for show rather than over their eyes. Not doing much good back there, are they 😂

Hi Mike. I parked in a lay-by on the road between Trevor and Llangollen, then rode up the Panorama (which you could also park on to avoid a climb). The first and last descents in the video both have pretty technical sections on them, way beyond what you would find at Delamere or in Degla. Another way to take in chunks of this would be to park at Degla and then cut off the Three Mile Climb at the Offas Dyke path, then turn right and follow the fence up towards the masts.

Stopadoodledoo thank you

Cheers mate; this loop is a bloody awesome one although probably a damned sight sloppier now than when I filmed it 👍

Cheers mate; this loop is a bloody awesome one although probably a damned sight sloppier now than when I filmed it 👍

😂. It’s seeing DH bikes at Degla that makes me realise how rad sick Gnar it is. Nothing says hardcore as much as pushing a 40lb bike with triple crown forks and 200mm of travel two miles up a fireroad, clad head to toe in body armour, to ride a flow trail that wouldn’t really be that testing on a cyclo cross bike 😂

@@Stopadoodledoo i nearly broke me ankle on the 'black' as i went to flat on everything. Its a fickin public safety risk!!!! Never rode Llangollen, looks mint...can you just do your own uplift up the road or is it private land???

@@PeakTorque you can, as the road goes all the way to the top. Membership is £30 a year (I think), free parking, first dibs when he does uplift days. One Giant Leap is definitely worth going to, it’s so good there 👍

@@Stopadoodledoo I've submitted an application. When they stop shagging sheep and eating leeks i presume I'll be allowed to let loose! Now just have to find a small Vietnamese chap to do my uplift in a stolen Caddy

@@PeakTorque best to wait until January 1st mate, membership is done on calendar year 👍

Thanks buddy 👍. I don’t know what was going on with the sheep that day; maybe One Planet Adventure were paying them to get in my way so viewers would think ‘screw that, no sheep to contend with in the trail centre’ 😀. I actually cut out the most abusive sheep encounter as my language reached a level that I thought wasn’t suitable for RU-vid 🙂

😂 They do my nut in with their backwards goggles 😂

Cheers mate. I presume you are referring to us all thinking that it would be great if we could all fire out solid shits? 😂

That and the pretend Enduro racers 😂

Thanks mate, I may take you up on your offer at some point 👍

You are indeed mate; I feel lucky enough to live less than 30 minutes drive away but to be able to ride there from your doorstep.... 👍

There's so much amazing riding around there, not much of which is within the forest 😃👍

Afraid not mate although the route is on Strava, under my name, Jason Thomas

Hi mate. If you head over to Strava, I'm on there as Jason Thomas (live in Chester) and you should be able to find it 👍

@@Stopadoodledoo got it, thanks.

I agree with you there Richard. I am not a fan of trail centres but must admit that I do like the Marin. I know some bemoan the fireroad climbs there but to me, it gets the climbing out of the way, with the descents paying dividends. Degla... nope.

@@Stopadoodledoo Yeah that initial fire road climb at Marin is a bit of a bore but got to get the cardio somewhere 👍. Not all trail centres are bad, Antur Stiniog is a good one even if the jumps are rather small. Revolution is a keeper. Some local trails are just as good though, just need to know where they are 😉

Exactly, mate. While I admit that trail centres have their place and can understand (sort of) why so many people love them, it's rides like this that tick my boxes 👍