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Espresso Machine Baskets Explained 

James Hoffmann
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Let's get a little nerdy about baskets. I've talked about them before but I thought it was worth putting all the info in just one place!
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@clintow
@clintow 2 года назад
When is "The James Hoffmann Cozy Sweater Club" going to be coming??
@nopy99
@nopy99 2 года назад
Keep an eye out for the square space microsite
@johncfalk
@johncfalk 2 года назад
I love his jumpers. Fantastic.
@Bradtheone
@Bradtheone 2 года назад
The James Hoffmann sweater club has to happen 😃👏
@danielkemp4860
@danielkemp4860 2 года назад
Hoffmannia ?
@DC-Aust
@DC-Aust 2 года назад
I'm guessing you didn't get the invite?
@AudreyHepburnCHick
@AudreyHepburnCHick 2 года назад
I literally just received a Gaggia Classic that I ordered from ebay and it came with a whole pile of baskets that were confusing me no end. This video comes at exactly the right time. Thank you!
@Lucier123456
@Lucier123456 2 года назад
@@sonacphotos id Say a vst basket make a huge difference also
@MereCashmere
@MereCashmere 2 года назад
@@sonacphotos wrong, don’t listen to this joker
@PanSangex
@PanSangex 2 года назад
@@sonacphotos Gaggia classic is a great starter machine. Eventually, everyone gets into PID and and pressure mods but you can indeed enjoy a good cup of coffee w/o modding.
@rever6612
@rever6612 2 года назад
I'm in the same boat, I received mine yesterday and this video was on time for me.
@goldencalf5144
@goldencalf5144 2 года назад
@@sonacphotos If the baskets are anything like the ones that came with the Rancilio Silvia, then they will be the biggest roadblock to making good Espresso. The 6g single basket was a cruel joke that was impossible to pull a shot with.
@brandony8691
@brandony8691 Год назад
10:45 I was actually blown away by this fact. After switching to an IMS basket, I thought I was crazy how fast my shot was pulling, but realized after putting a stopwatch to it that my shot was pulling a full 8 seconds faster than it was when I was using my earlier stock basket. It's taken a bit of time to dial it in, but I've since been grinding quite a bit finer with this basket and now get excellent (and perhaps just as important, more consistent) shots every day. EDIT: I'll add that the shots I pull are in fact much sweeter and complex, particularly for lighter roasts (as Mr. Hoffmann mentions).
@Chef_PC
@Chef_PC 2 года назад
“A blunt and fussy man.” I want this as my epitaph.
@DarkBlood666
@DarkBlood666 2 года назад
James's timing is impeccable. I was looking for grinder a while back, and he made a video on hand grinders at the same time. A few days ago I ordered my flair 58, and am currently looking for baskets.... and James makes a video on them He knows all.
@jpeyos
@jpeyos 2 года назад
The Big Brother?? :)
@19Cluj
@19Cluj 2 года назад
Same here, the previous video came just when I was seriously considering buying a $500,000 grinder. Genius.
@yeahthisisshit
@yeahthisisshit 2 года назад
I bought a 22g VST with my Flair 58 last month. I figure if I'm going to all that effort I'd like a big shot out of it. Works an absolute treat.
@d00dEEE
@d00dEEE 2 года назад
@@19Cluj You can't leave us hanging, did you buy one?
@davidjauregui3569
@davidjauregui3569 2 года назад
🐐
@isaiahpinkerton3445
@isaiahpinkerton3445 Год назад
This gives me so much validation, I thought I was the only one having trouble with the one-shot basket the puck kept expanding and was muddy and wet, horrible extraction.
@caleschley
@caleschley 3 месяца назад
He said in the video that at wet puck is not an indicator of a bad extraction.
@richardshaw4713
@richardshaw4713 2 года назад
I just love these presentations. I watch every video with absolute concentration. The detail, the nerdiness the humour fantastic. The chance of doing 90% of this is very low. I use a simple Melita bean to cup machine, but one day the fact that JH has developed my inner coffee nerd will force me to actually do something. Thank you Mr Hoffman. Keep up the great work.
@terryhur
@terryhur 2 года назад
Thank you for clarifying the importance of baskets, especially with magnified shots. I always wondered how much difference is there when people say ‘basket is not precise’, but had no idea they could look so different!
@kennypelling7631
@kennypelling7631 2 года назад
I personally would love to see a video, devoted to single baskets. Keep up the great videos 😊
@jeanburger5946
@jeanburger5946 2 года назад
This would be great. Ive tried many Single Baskets and none of them really worked.
@DSB1234567890
@DSB1234567890 2 года назад
@@jeanburger5946 Try the VST 7g single if you haven't. You'll need a 41mm tamper, and a bit of patience sweeping the grounds into the inner "well". I can get pretty good coffee and I definitely like it more than the "conical" IMS The Single baskets. Those act almost like pressurized portafilters, I can make huge changes to the grind with little change in shot time. P.S. if you find an old-style LM precision single basket, the one with the "stepped cylinder" design, it's a VST without the quality certificate and about half price. The new LM precision singles are IMS The Single's.
@sciencescience9102
@sciencescience9102 Год назад
Yes, please do one!
@peterszilvasi6807
@peterszilvasi6807 9 месяцев назад
Hi James. When you said Italians made single shots, bacause that allows them to drink more espressos throughout the day it made sense to me. Having a nice espresso machine and grinder kinda makes me want to do brew more than one shot a day, which is a little bit too much caffeine for me if I use the double basket. I tried to research the topic a bit but could not really find great ideas about making singles. People were trying to use the basic, funny shaped single baskets as you mentioned without much success. I remembered seeing an older video on a Hungarian coffee channel and they used a funnel that was specifically manufactured for 7g LM baskets. It also requires a smaller, 41mm tamper, but using these two paired with a good quality, straight walled single filter seemed to produce pretty good results. I found a German shop, called tidaka, who sell these funnels exclusively for LM 7g single baskets, they’re not cheap, but considering the advantages I decided to give it a go. It would be lovely to have more info on these or possibly a video in the future. It could be interesting for a lot of people, as I think the art of making single espressos is neglected for some reason. Thanks!
@bigjohn2811
@bigjohn2811 2 года назад
To keep the precision and prevent damaging of the holes, make sure nothing hard touches the holes. If the puck remains stuck in basket, don't use silverware to extract the puck. Use something something softer like a nylon handle from a coffee scoop and hand wash only. Basically treat it like other precision kitchen instruments like your kitchen knives.
@dirkl216
@dirkl216 2 года назад
Just knock it hard...I've never had a puck just not come out and I have to "scrape" it out. come on...! if the knock doesn't work just run some water on it and it will easily release.
@isocle
@isocle Год назад
What about WDT needles? Those won't damage it, will they?
@SherryDC
@SherryDC 7 месяцев назад
@@isocle 7 months to late but maybe still useful - they wont damage it but they will scratch the surface of it making it less shiny over time if that relevant for you
@AdrewHogan
@AdrewHogan 2 года назад
Great video. I’ve been working in coffee for around 7 years now and this is a topic that you hear about vaguely but never see much information on. And running cafes doesn’t give me much time to research. This was a fun and informative watch. Thanks!
@fizzysausage
@fizzysausage 2 года назад
What a legend. Thank you. I need clarity, you deliver clarity. I want to brew finer, you explain in brilliant detail what to expect. Hats off sir.
@TravelGeeq
@TravelGeeq 2 года назад
Always insigiteful and informative. Thanks for all the work you do to keep us interested. Merry Christmas!
@benmorgan5511
@benmorgan5511 2 года назад
Love this. Especially the history. I would love to see more videos in the future about the history of espresso and coffee!
@ozespresso
@ozespresso 2 года назад
That's a good idea!
@cjlhessing
@cjlhessing 2 года назад
Thanks so much for this video! I recently switched from my very overkill Mazzer to a Niche Zero so I can play around with different coffees - got it all setup properly to run on my r58 using what was either a stock basket or a better alternative that I bought at same time as the machine at launch and then I decided to order some properly sized baskets from Decent Espresso and I got the shock of my life. Puck was coming out wet whereas before they were dry and 'perfect' and my grind was going way way finer to get where I wanted to be. I panicked. I went back to my old basket, even though Decent kindly emailed me pretty much exactly what The Hoff has said in this video lol. But wow, when The Hoff says chill out this is normal - I feel better about the world. Gonna go back and get that all set now. Thanks Hoff!!!
@DmitrijPaskevic
@DmitrijPaskevic 2 года назад
I've started using the IMS Precision one over a year ago. Massive difference I'd say (compared to Gaggia's original one).
@davethetaswegian
@davethetaswegian 2 года назад
Same here, I am using a 18g VST basket. Much better than the original Gaggia one.
@StableNomad
@StableNomad 2 года назад
Same. Switched from Gaggia to VST and it's markedly better. Cleaner, more flavor, better pull. Very much easier to dial in
@henloitsdiego
@henloitsdiego 2 года назад
this is my sign to upgrade my basket
@Mike-lp5gv
@Mike-lp5gv 2 года назад
@@henloitsdiego go for it! Actually the VST basket doesn't really improve the taste, but it's more the consistency of brewing your espresso. Which results in a better taste :-) The standard I have use just a few days to quickly replace foe the VST.
@zmtroger
@zmtroger 2 года назад
We just got an 18gr IMS basket for our classic and I'm honestly blown away by the difference. Not night and day necessarily, but I'm skeptical about lots of gear upgrades (looking at you shower screen!) in general and this one was instantly noticeable. Makes sense when you think about (and see!) the inconsistencies in the churned out baskets.
@TripleJ85
@TripleJ85 2 года назад
I bought a VST basket for my Sunbeam EM7000 a couple of months ago - my experience is inline with James' expectations. Definitely a lot less resistance compared with the stock basket, more consistent results and better flavour. Excellent bang-for-buck upgrade!
@str8shooter160
@str8shooter160 Год назад
Your help with ridged vs ridgeless and size of basket was extremely helpful. Always great content. Thx!
@MastaLBC
@MastaLBC 2 года назад
I‘m normally pretty picky when it comes to my coffee and prepping it, but that‘s 100 Percent how I feel about quality baskets. I personally use them because they work better for lighter to medium roasts. Nice Job, well done.
@lukelomax9848
@lukelomax9848 2 года назад
Merry Christmas James
@ruscalable
@ruscalable 2 года назад
i tried getting into espresso making almost 20 years ago, but ended up selling all of my gear (Rancilio Silvia, Rocky, Reg Barber Tamper) because i always had such incredibly inconsistent results. ended up getting a Nespresso because the coffee was super consistent and about as good as 60% of the home shots i was getting. i came across your video tasting all the Nespresso pods a month or so ago and it peaked my interest and i've been following your videos ever since. feel like i finally know how to make consistently good shots; just need to save up enough cash to get a new setup so i can try putting it all into action.
@donh1572
@donh1572 2 года назад
Get a flair, it is so much more forgiving then my temperamental Rancilio Silvia. If you like nespresso. Explore turbo shot techniques or go higher ratio espresso. 1 to3 or higher. I believe nespresso is 1 to 4.5
@bosch992
@bosch992 2 года назад
Give yourself time. I make about 2 espressos a day. Made some of the bigger adjustments earlier on. Some smaller incremental adjustments in recent months. Now, after almost a year, I'm pretty happy about getting consistently good espresso. If something tastes bad, give it time. Eventually you'll figure out what to change about it.
@svetacoyne953
@svetacoyne953 2 года назад
Thank you so much, very informative as usual! Really like how you treat your audience with respect and believe that everyone can be good barista!
@NorwegianSpirit
@NorwegianSpirit Год назад
I got my first espresso machine yesterday and find your channel is so very helpful and entertaining. Was wondering if I should use the single shot basket or the larger one for both single and double shot. And bam; there is your video. I have learned so much from you in just 24 hours. Thank you!
@movieman77777
@movieman77777 2 года назад
Love your channel! I’ve learned quickly many aspects of brewing espresso I had no idea about. Your explanations are fantastic and detailed but also digestible for a new coffee fan like myself. I’d be Very interested in a video about the “Lelit Bianca” espresso machine with the flow control paddle. Seems like a whole realm of possibility to control pressure and flow by hand.
@davidolsen2455
@davidolsen2455 Год назад
I bought a VST basket for my Silvia and I bought a high quality tamper at the same time. These two items made a monumental difference, it was like I had a completely different machine that suddenly started producing shots 10 times better than before.
@jaylo1214
@jaylo1214 2 года назад
This explains so much! Thank you! I was using a precision 20g filter and dialed in what I liked perfectly. I bought a new machine (another gaggia) and was using the stick 18 g filter. The flow rate plummeted even though everything else was identical (grinder, grind size, etc). This explains other things as well.
@bluesfishes8491
@bluesfishes8491 2 года назад
Bought a VST 19g with ridge for my Rancilio SIlvia about 9 months ago on your insistence Mr Hoffmann! Thank you so much. Completely changed our coffee experience. Creating a reliable puck is so much easier. The finished product is of a completely different order. Even the simple act of knocking out the puck is better/easier. Best $$ I've spent on coffee making equipment in a very long time.
@aj_they
@aj_they 2 года назад
I don't even like coffee but I really enjoy your videos! It's so interesting to see the different aspects of coffee, how it works and what tastes good.
@ninal5027
@ninal5027 2 года назад
Santa, remind James we need a tiramisu recipe for Christmas 🎄
@user-yf6vc8lv6c
@user-yf6vc8lv6c 2 года назад
this might be one of the best (if not the single best) videos on the topic. thank you!
@BenVeenstra
@BenVeenstra 2 года назад
My second hand Rancilio Silvia (revised with the usual kit) and came with one original and one IMS basket. I'm a beginner and came from the small (cheap second hand) Breville espresso experience witch was not great and inconsistent. With the Silvia original basket pullen consistent shots and adjusting was just more difficult then the IMS basket. I did not know the difference was so big but now I understand. I might pick up a new one sinds I don't know the age of my IMS 17g basket. I love this community and greetings from the Netherlands!
@oligilkes6355
@oligilkes6355 2 года назад
100% I have a 2007 Gaggia Classic and the biggest difference made to the taste was upgrading to a VST basket. Great video as always James.
@Supreme_Clientele
@Supreme_Clientele 2 года назад
Id argue that changing the OPV to 9 bars form the stock 15 bars would have the biggest impact out of any upgrade you can do to a gaggia classic.
@dirkl216
@dirkl216 2 года назад
@@Supreme_Clientele tastes are subjective so i think (ppl may not care) they are both just paths to the same destination. until a person's taste preferences align with the roaster/basket designer intentions both will get you where you need to be if you keep striving for a tasty cup, one cup at a time.
@Nanoniak
@Nanoniak 2 года назад
I would love to see a video about getting the best results with a single basket. Sounds like a great way to enjoy espresso more often without having a heart attack, but it is hard to work with.
@verryvernando3903
@verryvernando3903 2 года назад
Totally 😭
@slowbot68
@slowbot68 Год назад
I started with the single basket on my machine, not knowing double was more common. Now I can get a good espresso with the single basket but lose it completely when i switch to the double. I find it's enough coffee and you can have a couple during the day without feeling you had too much. Also if you mess it up you didn't waste so much coffee.
@eamobyrne1
@eamobyrne1 2 месяца назад
Mr Hoffman. You sir are an absolute legend. I can't tell you enough how helpful your videos are. I've a profitec pro 700 on order with a eureka mignon libra. I can't wait to start pulling shots
@kristb2604
@kristb2604 2 года назад
Haha this is a fun coincidence. I just bought Christmas present for my sister from Tim Wendelboe. :D i hope she like it
@scotlandgee
@scotlandgee 2 года назад
I purchased a Precision VST 20g basket about a month ago and the increase in quality of my espresso is astounding! Cannot recommend it enough. For reference, I was using the standard Breville/Sage Dual Boiler basket.
@JoshuaParks
@JoshuaParks 2 года назад
This is a fantastic video - textbook example of why James Hoffmann is such a good information source. Thank you!
@marcelcukier
@marcelcukier 2 года назад
I find your videos to be really pleasant and informative to watch. It's like brewing pleasure with knowledge.
@mareknovotny7808
@mareknovotny7808 2 года назад
I switched from original 18g NS baskets to VST 18g ridgeless baskets at our cafe and the difference in flowrate was mindblowing for me. Went from 30 to 15 seconds. Also the difference in taste and body for the same recipe between those two baskets was incredible!
@tonysayer1658
@tonysayer1658 2 года назад
I’d love to see a video on getting the best out of single baskets. I have an 18g VST that I can get great shots with but I use the single that came with my Breville Dual Boiler as my daily.
@Webfra14
@Webfra14 2 года назад
Okay, okay, you convinced me to buy a precision basket. Now I just need a video how to use a precision basket with a french press...
@meson183
@meson183 2 года назад
LOL. I love it.
@MrIacovelli
@MrIacovelli 2 года назад
This is a great channel. Would love to see a video on how to get a good pull from one of those conical single-shot baskets. Your comments have validated my years of struggling with one! 🙂
@borcz100
@borcz100 2 года назад
I got an IMS basket on your recommendation before my Gaggia Classic Pro came in the door. I am still working of brewing my first 20 shots and feel blessed to have such knowledgeable parasocial friends.
@brandonjoice1835
@brandonjoice1835 2 года назад
I'm definitely interested in single baskets, I found I was having trouble getting good shots with a weird box store machine I got, and practice on the really hard single basket made me better at using the machine in general.
@precisionsoundworksstudio
@precisionsoundworksstudio Год назад
Excellent! Got a good laugh out of your gloating on the shot that could not be replicated!
@evanjohnson4559
@evanjohnson4559 2 года назад
“He left annoyed which has me embarrassingly delighted” is the most British phrase I’ve heard in a long time! lol great video!
@pulsing1982
@pulsing1982 2 года назад
yep that had me giggling.
@ivanwyttenbach3549
@ivanwyttenbach3549 2 года назад
Thx for your tipps and tricks. I never thought about the basket quality. Love your videos. Cheers from Switzerland.
@wolfetrax
@wolfetrax 2 года назад
7:05 This made me realize that I was under dosing my espresso for a few months! I had no idea that under dosing was why my pucks were much wetter before upping my dosing amount than after. Thanks James!
@kenibarwick
@kenibarwick 2 года назад
We has another video on the puck looks like afterwards and what it means
@27bit
@27bit 2 года назад
My IMS 54mm was a huge game changer. Although it was a bit tougher, more sensitive, the coffee has much more body and such a fuller taste. It was a great advice from one of the reviews.
@dirkl216
@dirkl216 2 года назад
definitely, I agree, the VST is more forgiving for "poor" techniques and machine variances. Also there is a different in the grind size for the same sized basket.
@27bit
@27bit 2 года назад
@@dirkl216 I find it that you have ti grind more precise and finer.
@tl924
@tl924 2 года назад
This was exactly the video I needed at this moment! Thank you so much.
@wendybaryl6867
@wendybaryl6867 Год назад
Thank you so much for sharing your time and talent ❤💜
@fpvjulez2741
@fpvjulez2741 2 года назад
I dont want to drink too much caffine everyday, so I prefer to drink single basket shots based on the amount of coffee. But yes the workflow is way harder there. I switched to a VST 7gr LM1 basket with straight edges. Disadvantage is that you need a funnel and a 41mm tamper. But with this, my results are as consistent as with my 18g vst.
@carsiotto
@carsiotto 2 года назад
Man, I want to get a single. I take that approach to coffee consumption too
@Yirgamalabar
@Yirgamalabar 2 года назад
You don't need a funnel. Just be little less ocd about some stray coffee remaining around the "target". It doesn't even amount to 1/10th of a gram, so just let it be.
@jackr.4953
@jackr.4953 2 года назад
I'm a bit of a blasphemer, here. I only drink decaf now. It's much harder to find a quality, specialty decaf, but it is what it is!
@dominikdrnek2529
@dominikdrnek2529 2 года назад
I have the same setup (vst7, funnel, 41mm tamper) and totally agree with you. I fill it with 8g.
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 2 года назад
@@carsiotto What about something like a 12 g double and put in 9g?
@xander1052
@xander1052 2 года назад
Irrelevant to the video, but I love your jumper James! (and the opening scene is really well done in how you've got everything laid out in frame)
@8leggedsquirrel521
@8leggedsquirrel521 2 года назад
Exactly what I've been looking forward to you making! 10/10
@irenalovesart4064
@irenalovesart4064 2 года назад
I will watch any twot you post. I have bought a delonghi machine and got rid of the pod machine and can actually tell the difference between beans and grounds!! I feel very smug indeed. Thank you hoffcoff
@jameshelms3580
@jameshelms3580 2 года назад
Great overview of baskets, I definitely am challenged by the small one shot basket...7 grams in and my tamper can touch the metal on the bottom of the basket..and soupy mess! The espresso can be good though but I usually end up dosing 8-9 grams to feel a good tamp. I would love to watch a video about using a one shot basket. That also brings up the topic of the ongoing trend toward larger baskets and dosages.
@nouasabdelatif6029
@nouasabdelatif6029 Год назад
Have you found a solution or a good video explaining this topic, single shot is the norm in my country, if it's really bad i might use the 12g basket for single shot i don't know
@LlewellynConnolly
@LlewellynConnolly 2 года назад
Switched to a 54mm Precision basket which I use on my Breville Pro. Went from 7 to 4 on grind size to achieve same shot pull time. Much more uniform as well. Probably best investment per unit of return I have made.
@royceyork3248
@royceyork3248 Год назад
can you link the basket you got?
@louferraro6976
@louferraro6976 Год назад
new to the channel and the world of brewing.. ! I just upgraded to an IMS basket and panic set in when my flow rate changed .. you explained it well.. great info, great channel thank you
@mrwezbo
@mrwezbo 5 месяцев назад
This was way more informative than I thought it would be opening the vid while I am eating lunch. Thank you!
@ImranShamsul
@ImranShamsul 2 года назад
Yep, changed out the stock breville 54mm basket with an IMS basket and the flow increased! Trying out the IMS shower screen too. Interested to see a discussion about that!
@nickhart4870
@nickhart4870 2 года назад
where did you get the basket from mate?
@royceyork3248
@royceyork3248 Год назад
can you provide links?
@colewalliser
@colewalliser 2 года назад
I bought precision baskets the moment I upgraded to 58mm portafiler. It was one of the reasons I wanted to upgrade my machine lol.
@RM-hy4so
@RM-hy4so 2 года назад
Excellent video. Just what I was looking for!
@SexyBakanishi
@SexyBakanishi 2 года назад
The look on James’ face when he says … well, delighted! Brilliant
@actualreplyguy
@actualreplyguy Год назад
I think many makers have taken notice. All my ECM/Profitec baskets have impeccable machining and workmanship. I was surprised, given they come standard with their machines, how well done they were when examined with a 10X loupe with ample backlighting.
@hyperspaced77
@hyperspaced77 Год назад
I agree. Just bought a Profitec Go and even stock basket looks impeccable under a magnifying glass. My only concern is Profitec does not include straight baskets, as they are slightly conical.
@actualreplyguy
@actualreplyguy Год назад
@@hyperspaced77 I believe the only straight-walled baskets they make are for triple shots -- and I don't believe they include it with any of their machines, has to be bought as an accessory.
@henrika1408
@henrika1408 2 года назад
I'd love to see a dual vs. single basket comparison!
@Fuuntag
@Fuuntag 2 года назад
Informative, brief. Appreciated James.
@roballan4661
@roballan4661 Год назад
Thanks James - I've just got a Gaggia Pro for the home and upgraded to a VST with a bottomless portafilter. While I'm still dialling it in I was amazed to see the difference in flowrate with the VST and have been able to drop my grind size quite a bit. I've had one or 2 great shots out of it but still some work to do. Thanks for validating the experience :)
@A-Spoto
@A-Spoto 2 года назад
I work in a cafe in Minnesota and I've noticed our espresso heads pour at different rates for the same grind. They are very old and after watching this video, probably not well machined. Unfortunately, there is little that I can do other than recommend new brew baskets to the manager.
@henrywiltcher
@henrywiltcher 2 года назад
Would be a shame if the old ones were to mysteriously disappear
@alexisrdevitre
@alexisrdevitre 2 года назад
Thank you for this video. I had difficulty pulling a decent shot with the Gaggia Classic until I gave up on the single shot and started using the double shot basket. I'm curious to check the holes of those baskets now :)
@levlehn2795
@levlehn2795 2 года назад
Thanks so much James! I've been waiting for that for a long time!
@TheRealOzWookiee
@TheRealOzWookiee Год назад
"...and that left me... embarrassingly... delighted." Sir, this is why I love your videos
@adi2082
@adi2082 2 года назад
54mm IMS basket greatly improved my coffee coming from a Bambino plus, it required grinding noticeably finer and reduced channeling also. Definitely recommend these for anyone with a 54mm Breville.
@pandapig1174
@pandapig1174 2 года назад
Where did you find it. I’m in US and can’t find one.
@jobopening5085
@jobopening5085 11 месяцев назад
You may already have one, as the bambino plus comes with one.
@harlothompson
@harlothompson 2 года назад
As a fairly inexpensive tool that eliminates another variable to consider when brewing, precision baskets are a no brainer. I bought and 18g IMS basket for my E1 Prima and haven't given it a second thought since. If the flow rate seems off, I know my basket's not an issue.
@VincentGroenewold
@VincentGroenewold 2 года назад
But is it such a big difference I wonder, would be nice to measure.
@harlothompson
@harlothompson 2 года назад
James definitely seems convinced they improve the quality and consistency of espresso, and I think consistency is where the impact is most perceivable. Precision baskets won't make bad coffee taste better, but it will help you pull the same shot consistently over and over again which is important to some.
@jamiethomson8456
@jamiethomson8456 2 года назад
As much as I love to see baristas and cafe owners push down this path, it’s a shame that more coffee companies haven’t done there research and put their wholesale customers in the best place to succeed. If you are putting in $20,000 in a machine, $4000 per grinder spend the extra $30-40 and make the whole thing better.
@harlothompson
@harlothompson 2 года назад
@@jamiethomson8456 Couldn't agree more. Honestly, I don't think there was anything wrong with the baskets provided with my machine (VA E1 Prima). The main reason I ended up buying precision baskets is because it came with two portafilters and a selection of baskets that were all different sizes, so I decided to buy matching precision baskets for when I'm hosting or doing events. What would be great is to see manufactures and suppliers offer a selection of accessories upfront rather than providing parts the end user doesn't need. The choice of having bottomless portafilters, for instance, and choice of baskets. It would also eliminate waste as I am not using any of the baskets I received with my machine.
@cienfuegos9583
@cienfuegos9583 2 года назад
This is some extremely valuable information. I can really work with this , Thank You !
@pizzatimechannel
@pizzatimechannel Год назад
impeccable explanations as always. Another great video
@carlesmiquel
@carlesmiquel 2 года назад
I lived in Italy for a long time and walked to Uni everyday. I sipped maybe 4 ristrettos on my way and they were always made in one of those tiny conical 7-gram baskets. It was heaven. Today, I'm brewing my own at home with 18-gram baskets. I can't match, yet, what they did! I've tried the 7-gram ones and these things are freaking difficult to master! You should make a video on VST and IMS technologies... it's fascinating.
@joe190375
@joe190375 2 года назад
I went to a 18 g 54 mm IMS basket, and it has Made a significant difference. Almost to the point where I had to start from scratch on pulling shots. Had to change the grind size, and then figure out flow rates. Still a work in progress.
@robertmontano8026
@robertmontano8026 2 года назад
I’m in the same boat, got a 54mm ims for my breville, still trying to get dosage/grind spot on
@chingwa888
@chingwa888 2 года назад
@@robertmontano8026 Took me about 6 bags of coffee at huge expense to get my dosage and grind right. Then I tried a bottomless portafilter and had to start all over again (perhaps due to the basket rather than the fact it is bottomless).
@-eMpTy-
@-eMpTy- 2 года назад
@@chingwa888 6 bags??? wtf
@petrolpixie
@petrolpixie Год назад
I went from a tapered double basket to an ims double basket and actually noticed the extraction time decrease. I thought I had done something wrong and went back to my tapered baskets. Now I know that was normal. I'm going to give the ims baskets another go and dial them in. Thanks James!
@gregmoreau7253
@gregmoreau7253 9 месяцев назад
Amazing content. Thanks for all the education
@cs5250
@cs5250 2 года назад
Crazy to think that I was just fine drinking instant coffee at work a year ago and now I'm only buying fresh beans and am about to check the holes on my portafilter basket with a magnifying glass.
@3888Orbost
@3888Orbost 2 года назад
😁😁 many can relate I reckon 😁
@marcusannegarn8497
@marcusannegarn8497 2 года назад
For those with Breville machines, the stock Breville baskets are actually fantastic! So 'upgrading' isn't necessary but different baskets may give you different results.
@EdthePlumber
@EdthePlumber 2 года назад
I just got out my basket and did the light check, I think it looks great, even clean holes. It would be interesting to see if a “fancy” basket makes a noticeable difference
@marcusannegarn8497
@marcusannegarn8497 2 года назад
@@EdthePlumber different precision baskets can taste quite different even if they are all high quality. But at that point I think it's down to personal preference etc
@gedog77
@gedog77 2 года назад
I'd say the stock ones look well engineered, putting the IMS competition one next to it, there are some differences - more holes mostly.
@marcusannegarn8497
@marcusannegarn8497 2 года назад
@@gedog77 yup hole number, size, spacing, and arrangement could all affect taste and flow rate.
@billeterk
@billeterk 2 года назад
Our Breville basket looks good. Not so sure about the group shower screen but I guess it’s less critical?
@shawzy620
@shawzy620 2 года назад
Thanks, James! As usual bang on. VST basket in my Gaggia classic running 6.5 bar has been a revelation!
@krimke881
@krimke881 2 года назад
Dark or light roasted coffee? And what grinder do you have ?
@DavidJVMusic
@DavidJVMusic 2 года назад
James, you just hit all of my questions so well!!! "Embarassingly delighted," hehehe! I've always checked my baskets out really well when washing them and I have never found any with weird blemishes. Even thogh I have only had pretty cheap machines. Yay, I problem I have not run into!!!
@GraemeRobinson
@GraemeRobinson 2 года назад
Living with my elderly mother a double shot is too much coffee for her, so I've spent a lot of time making singles and have finally nailed it. The quintessential point with making singles is accurate dosage sensitivity is much greater than with doubles. My mark is 16gm of coffee weighed before grinding. Anything over and more than .2gm under and the shot is ruined. And this with only the same coffee beans roasted by the same roaster. Use another bean and all bets are off and recalibration would be needed. I'm happy with the stock baskets that came with my Isomac machine but am curious to try one of these VST baskets - if only they didn't cost so much.
@stumpunboxing1320
@stumpunboxing1320 2 года назад
Bruv, in most definitions I'm aware of, 16g is a double shot not a single!
@renatoa
@renatoa 2 года назад
Change the machine to one that favor less coffee. For this reason my favorite shots are now done on a flair, using 14 grams dose, 1:3 ratio, i.e. 42 out, without absolutely any issue for quantity, grinding or tamping, I can vary any of them wildly, and still get a good shot, because the lever handling allows me to counteract any preparation defect.
@danomara4196
@danomara4196 2 года назад
Quite a bit of analysis went into the Breville basket quality over at the Espresso Aficionado discord from microscopes and pattern analysis. The result was that the Breville stock baskets are pretty good. Not a huge upgrade to go precision if you have a Breville/Sage.
@lufeacbo8
@lufeacbo8 2 года назад
Good to know. Thanks for the information.
@adamjanoska4365
@adamjanoska4365 2 года назад
I've got a Lelit Victoria last week, dialed a lighter roast in, have nice flavours used with the commercial basket. First things first, ordered 58 mm gadgets (bottomless portafilter, IMS superfine basket, distributor, tamper). The brew time dropped immediately 8 sec (18 g dose), dialed the coffee again and got much more complex results than before, cant believe it. Now make sense, thank you!
@h4st3didk7
@h4st3didk7 6 месяцев назад
I was wondering why i get lot more issues with single baskets and you gave me the answer. It multiplies the chances of failure, especially if you are a noob in coffee (like i'm). Thanks for this video (and for you overall work, it helps a lot when you start dealing with coffee).
@kennyhills8002
@kennyhills8002 2 года назад
I had to redial my espresso when I made the change to my 20g VST basket. The espresso I'm able to produce now is definitely more complex with a better mouth feel and sweeter too. I'm still learning to dial in and your videos are definitely helping me to understand fresh coffee and roasting level's. I'm definitely more of a fan of light to medium roasts as most dark roasts I've had just taste of ash or burnt plastic. Probably a dialing in issue but most chain cafés serve dark roasts and I'll never know why. I definitely prefer the acidity and fruity notes of a good fresh light/medium roast.
@stevehoge
@stevehoge 2 года назад
I would have expected to hear more about the relationship between nominal basket capacity or open area and the optimum tamping pressure - for instance, how under-loading a higher capacity 20 or 22g basket with a 16 to 18g dose affects the amount of pressure that should be applied.
@caleschley
@caleschley 3 месяца назад
You can't really tamp too hard, and James has said so in his videos. As long as you tamp hard enough to fully compress the coffee, that's what matters.
@scottroberts3078
@scottroberts3078 2 года назад
In the past, before brewing light esppresso exclusively, I had noticed a marked difference in volume between the same mass of ground darker, medium, and light roast. I used to use the depth of the shower screen screen screw depression in the puch to gauge if I was over my basket's max capacity. Ahh... memories. I've come to really appreciate your videos @jameshoffman, and was semi expecting another scientific analysis of such phenomenon. Fortuntately, I was greeted by something else I had wondered about... Is there a standard for basket hole size and coverage. Glad I was correct to assume not. I had been suspecting less resistance would be useful for my lighter roasts, but hadn't yet done the research to see who makes such a basket. Off to VST I go. Then, more trials to again better dial in the GS/3 :--) Thanks again for a great viewing experience.
@PatrickSpeaking
@PatrickSpeaking 2 года назад
This was the inspiration I needed to get a new fancy basket
@cameronstiglic6277
@cameronstiglic6277 2 года назад
Who votes for a Gaggia Classic Pro full review?
@murraythebaker
@murraythebaker 2 года назад
I would of loved to be in the room when James made that espresso for Tim 🤣🤣
@TheHipClip
@TheHipClip 2 года назад
Use would have or the disgusting would've.
@murraythebaker
@murraythebaker 2 года назад
@@TheHipClip I’m severely dyslexic so English was never a good subject for me so thank you for letting me know
@dashingdave2665
@dashingdave2665 2 года назад
Come to Australia, we'd just say " Ida luffta been air when e made that bloke a expresso Place nearly kills me and my ocd Here they'll even write wood of
@JakeEarp
@JakeEarp 2 года назад
IMS baskets made a HUGE difference when pulling shots on my Appartamento 🤘🏼 Excellent video, been wanting to watch something like this to better understand all the different basket types 😁🤙🏼
@ryanwaldon1601
@ryanwaldon1601 2 года назад
I needed this one. Thanks James :)
@bobgruner
@bobgruner 2 года назад
I bought a VST basket a while ago, but I have to say that the hole distribution and uniformity on the Breville double basket that came with their dual boiler machine is really very good. The weird thing is that their instructions have you prep the puck by using their Razor tool after tamping. I had to look online to see that the basket is meant for 19-22 grams of coffee. Anyway, I like the VST.
@akbg
@akbg 2 года назад
Hi! Given that the basket with the BDB is fairly decent (I've also read similar reports online), do you still suggest buying a VST one? Also: which size did you buy? 18g? I've read the 20g might not fit the p/f
@bobgruner
@bobgruner 2 года назад
@@akbgIf you're happy with the espresso you're getting, then it's probably not necessary. But I am still struggling with my puck technique - I have trouble getting the pressure to 9 bars and liking the result - so I was OK with spending the money. The 20g VST basket fits the Breville portafilter just fine; it's only a little deeper than the Breville one. I had the same concern as you before I got it and spent a lot of time trying measure the depth of the portafilter. lol
@akbg
@akbg 2 года назад
@@bobgruner thanks! I do like the results but it's hard to say if I'm missing out to better, more delicious results :-) I do not have trouble reaching 9 bars though, and I don't use anything fancy when preparing the puck (no WDT or things like that); could it be the grinder does not grind fine enough?
@bobgruner
@bobgruner 2 года назад
​@@akbg I have been using a Baratza Sette 270Wi grinder, and it should be able to grind fine enough, so I've been assuming it's my puck prep. The biggest issue is that my wife doesn't like plain espresso so much, and I'm too lazy to make pourover for her and expresso for me so I don't get as much practice as I would like. I've been trying to get my espresso dialed in before I worry about frothing milk (since she will drink caps or lattes).
@akbg
@akbg 2 года назад
@@bobgruner exact same grinder as I have! Definitely capable of chocking the machine with any blend you throw at it, weird you can't get up to 9 bars
@luzsantos5179
@luzsantos5179 Год назад
Is there a huge difference between 54 & 58mm portafilters? Is one better than the other? Please help. Thank you.
@error.418
@error.418 Год назад
One is not better than the other. You can't change your portafilter size, it's whatever fits your machine. The difference will be the 54 will have a deeper bed depth than the 58 for the same dose, which will likely create differences, but not ones you can't manage through standard dialing in. I wouldn't worry about it if you already have a machine. If you're still looking to buy a machine, know that 58 is the most common and so is handy for buying aftermarket parts, etc.
@luzsantos5179
@luzsantos5179 Год назад
@@error.418 thank you so much for your help. I already have a 54 portafilter machine but am curious if I’m missing something & should upgrade to 58.
@terryseo6376
@terryseo6376 2 года назад
Excited to watch this content!
@kimlog7476
@kimlog7476 5 месяцев назад
As a Norwegian, I had never heard of Tim Wendelboe, which probably shows how much of a novice I am when it comes to coffee....I found this video very helpful.
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